tv Malakhov RUSSIA1 September 29, 2023 4:30pm-5:31pm MSK
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news continues to monitor developments, stay tuned. a high-profile story is being broadcast live: 50 years ago, all soviet newspapers wrote about it, a family of hermits lived for 20 years in the remote taiga, far from civilization. what happened to those famous throughout the soviet union? taiga hermits, antipins, why the eldest daughter wants to follow in her father’s footsteps and return to live back in the taiga. in 1982, anna antipina fled to the remote taiga with her stepfather, where she had seven children. 20 years later she went to people to ask for help, and today she
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we meet the most taiga hermit anna in our studio, good afternoon, but the entire soviet union was talking about the incredible story of your escape to taiga, you probably remember everything in detail, but we remember everything in detail, there was such a thing, how it happened, what did you take went to the taiga? well, the idea, of course, came from my first husband victor and it was his idea, to go far into the forest, to establish such a small family trading post there, well, it probably influenced me from this territory, and that’s you in the photo, yes, that’s me, well done, well it was, i was only 20 years old, now sasha and i are just looking and trying to understand what made such a young, attractive girl give up everything to go to the taiga, after all, you left at the age of 15, not 15, 16 years old, i left, but i i say, it was probably my husband’s idea that infected me, that’s how it was for me.
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probably to some extent, well, i’m such a person, probably a naturalist, i probably said , i’m leaving everything, i’m going to start a new life of searching, this man, this is, you said, your husband, he was your stepfather, well, in the beginning as if he raised me for a short period of my life, then i grew up, we somehow developed mutual sympathies, i apologize, but what about my mother, who, as i understand it, was with my stepfather? well, mom there, apparently at the moment, she also seemed to have become disillusioned with the ideas that victor offered her to go into the forest , to be together, to be already a grandmother, let’s say, that is, he called your mother too, of course he called, it’s just her refused this idea, she was, when she did not agree, he began to call you, or whatever it was, well, this it was as if it was mutual, all together, and what words did he choose to convince you that it ’s better in the taiga than among people?
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i’m telling you about this that i’m young, as they say, there was more interest in me, there was more interest in me, but my mother had already lived a long life, she seemed not to be interested in his ideas, she rejected them, no, but we’re just interested in understanding, that is, this is what sasha should tell me to say , listen, let’s leave everything, leave moscow, leave roads, megacities, let’s go to the river to wash ourselves, wipe ourselves with our paws, these are the words were there, but i might also tell you some interesting words, you’ll agree with me, you won’t agree with sasha, but you’ll agree with me, come and have a look, let’s do a little experiment, what’s wrong with that, there’s romance, there’s real life , there are birds, animals, herbs, build a fire, sit by the fire, make tea, make soup, i’m scared for you, because there are bears there, well, at that time, probably, at that time, it was probably a little scary, but i had a reliable back, a defender, i listen to what you say,
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this is romance, a fire, of course, these beautiful words, you are a young girl, as it were, but you lived in a village, there is also a forest, there are also animals, chickens can also be built in a church, why at that time you were already tired of these chickens, from a cow and i probably wanted to see something new, interesting, anna, you went to the taiga, where 50 years ago you went to live with your stepfather for many decades, attention. we also go to the forest every day , just like someone goes to the store every day, i already know where who passes which animal passes which trap is allowed here you can put it here you can put sobolev because he often crosses over here he fattens and lives here, here the ground is hard and he is not visible, but i see that someone passed here and i understand who passed it because i a taiga woman and so he walked along the path and looked and you can already see, for example, a bear, a roe deer, there
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’s a small one, there’s a musk deer running somewhere, here it is from here, as it was walking, it was advancing like that , here’s an animal passing by, here it is, as they say, you can see the path here, according to him, there is not only an animal passes, it’s theirs, we walk along the road, and they also walk along their own road of life, so here you can make a place to sit, meet the beast, you can set some kind of trap, catch it, which is what we did, set it, that means you caught it , victor and i met in distant years, 1975, i was still a child then, of course, he came to our village, also left civilization, strove for the taiga, the forest, he was around, no matter who he communicated with, he was always knew how to get people interested in his ideas, these, his own, that it’s like a person should do everything it’s like living in the bosom of nature, and then i was a carefree girl, wandering after him and
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everything was interesting to me, i learned everything, he taught me how to collect various herbs, we prepared herbs, how to hunt, walk on animals, how to set lava? we collected, dug, the children ate it, let's say, a useful herb, this is the gruzhanka, it begins to bloom , we cooked it, we prepared incense, but like tea, like this, we have brewed tea, like store-bought, indian tea , no, we brewed all these herbs, there are a lot of them, so bergenia, it is similar, only the leaves are much larger, this is wintergreen, it is more of a medicinal herb, this herb has a very tasty smell, it also has very beneficial properties for women, there was sorrel and black currant, there was lingonberry, all these are berries,
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which we ate in large quantities, and as now, let’s say, we eat potatoes, well, the same flour , pancakes, we make lilies of the valley, bread, we replaced all this. here's something that grows wild, a little bit of potatoes, somewhere there's a little bit of this flour, somewhere they made some bread, that's a little bit, somehow we didn't race them, we everything was interesting, we ate everything that came our way, everything that flies and crawls , everything was eaten, i left my taiga, how many 40-odd years i had there, i was like a girl, i felt like i was 15 years old, here you are believe it or not, i felt i was ashamed to address my peers as you, oh, you , it seemed to me that now i’m even a little ashamed of it, that now i’ve already gotten used to it, i already felt my age, and then i felt like i was 15 years old , there were great hardships, deprivations, but having gone through this path of life, i don’t regret a lot
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i had to experience it, we burned with him in a fire, our second son was born in 1988, he died in 1992, also in the taiga, but apparently something affected him, maybe he had encephalitis or something, such... there were a lot of hardships there are still many difficulties in the taiga. at first there was some kind of anger, as it were, but i think he tore me away from civilization, he deprived me of how, well, let’s say, if now modern society takes there, let’s say, some outfits, some there are skirts, well, just ordinary shoes on high heels, who among the girls hasn’t dreamed of walking in stiletto heels, well, i’m the same person, in principle, i also dreamed about it, at first there was some kind of resentment. yes, that maybe they didn’t get something in addition, now having lived these years here, in the village of serebrovo, i think it wasn’t anything that terrible, on the contrary , life gave me more, brought me some benefits, what i lost, i grew up on this, i gained
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a lot of life experience, it affected my subsequent life, which i now live here, this life experience helps me survive, because it’s hardening for me, so... all these drinks of life gave me strength, health, they gave me all this, but they didn’t look for you when you left, well, no, they didn’t look for us , we left officially, as if everything had happened and what does it mean officially, you’re a schoolgirl, no , i wasn’t studying at that time, after all, i was 16 years old, but what does it mean officially, wasn’t your mother really looking for you, but your mother knew about it , that i would go into the taiga in isolation, and she would let you go... well, i think that in the depths of my soul, of course i was worried, but what is possible with us young have her husband take her daughter and take her to the taiga , she didn’t tell you anything, well, the thing is, what is taiga, what happened in our
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life, it wasn’t in the plans, it was to start there, we wanted to start something more civilized way, move away, go to an area, let’s say, rent the taiga, start hunting there, supply furs. how the forestry departments work, and you told your mother that you were expecting a child at that moment, how did she let you go in such a state, and well, first of all, of course, they didn’t tell you, but it happened, probably a little, a little later, while i was negotiating with my mother, then it happened, and i’m 16 years old, i don’t think i even realized that it happened, it happened, in principle, at the moment when the moment when it had already become the stomach appears, so that they realize that i, that’s when this started happening, you didn’t think about going back to your mother, to civility, to talk like a woman, mom, something is happening to me, well, they’ve already left, already to the taiga, mom is already left in the village, how can i return to it, yes, but there are no doctors nearby, no one, you understand that you are expecting... a child, oh, i didn’t experience any, well, of course i may have fear,
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but i’m telling you again, i had victor, who seemed to figuratively and clearly, clearly explained all the positions of how this would happen, that i would take delivery, he already had a lot of life experience, he took delivery, yes he did, and he had taken delivery before, no, of course, he had never taken delivery of anyone before, it was the first time and he had all sorts of experience , in taiga, without doctors, sorry for the details, but tie the umbilical cord, there, there are a lot of procedures there special ones, well, we all live, we live, as it were, in a village, and he was also born, he grew up with his grandfather, with his grandmother, somehow in the process of life he also mastered all this, saw, watched, somewhere his grandmother taught, where i told you something, but after giving birth, any woman needs recovery, medical care, that’s how it is with this, you know, in the taiga everything is done at once, everything at once, and medical care, recovery, that’s what it’s like... everything, as they say, it’s not that there are some viruses, microbes,
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some consequences present somewhere, it’s just pure stuff there was born, the baby was wrapped, wiped in clean water, washed, treated with various herbal infusions, and the baby was born healthy, yes they were born healthy, they were all born healthy, but just how many children are there, you lived 20 years, i so i understand you had more than one child? i had one child, yes, well, the first ones, maybe that i on my own , as a woman, had not yet formed, i was 16 years old, the first ones, yes, the sons died at the age of one month, that is, two babies died, died, why? well , there are no medical reports, according to our assumptions, this is the beginning, this way of life apparently had an impact, but how did you survive it? oh, well, like a woman. also naturally, i still hold this in my soul heavily with tears in my soul
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with some kind of stress, well, the young body is young, all this has been restored and life is nomadic, when we walked a lot in the taiga, made transitions, it was as if it had been erased from memory, and you didn’t accuse your husband of this, well, there’s no such habit, no, and i didn’t think that he was guilty of anything... how would this have happened, well, how here is an animal, a bird, the same thing happens, natural selection, excuse me, but where did you bury the children, well, the graves were dug, wooden crosses were put up, and you didn’t ask your husband, when they got sick, to return to the city to provide medical assistance ? no, i never asked, because for some reason it wasn’t in my head to ask for it, we lived in the nature of nature, everything seemed to be the same as a mother doesn’t save,
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let’s say a child survives, so after all, it’s all in our thoughts you are holding this, this is conscious, here i am listening to you, sorry for such a question, and you weren’t afraid of your husband, but why should i be afraid, on the contrary, i hoped for him and knew that no matter what happened, i would stand up for me, well, you just understand, it doesn’t fit in my head, that is, if god forbid - something happened, my first thought was to go to the doctor, and when i was sitting in the remote taiga, next to me, well, again, excuse me, was my stepfather and he seemed to say, no, don’t go to the doctors, that is, no longer why, already a husband, as it were, firstly, and secondly, i say, well, i’m a young girl and so how would i have the strength there were energies, i didn’t blame, i thought that it was as if it was supposed to be, i ’m telling you again, in medical conditions all sorts of accidents happen too, so i thought that it was like fate, excuse me, what is this? in my hands, i apologize for looking like this, but these are my diaries
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, which i kept for many years , all of them, yes, please look, these are the diaries that you wrote in taiga, yes, i wrote we, uh, that is 50 years of these diaries, well, yes, wow, what did you write in them, that is, i wrote down what events happened so that we didn’t have a calendar, there wasn’t a date there, look, it’s interesting, i see your cards, right? yes, the maps on which we mapped out the routes, then they were used as plans to sew shoes for ourselves in the forest, but i have the feeling , you know, that i’m reading some kind of action-packed blockbuster, so... i, i can read it , a little bit, please, everyone is at home , father is wailing over the strategic right, deer, i took a bath in the bathtub, fell asleep, and in the morning we walked along the path, pick bird cherry ferns, bird cherry blossoms, and what kind of bath in the taiga, well, a bathtub is like it’s made of birch bark, a bathtub or chumasha, as
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you can, then i’ll describe it as a bathtub, well , we had to wash somewhere, it’s like a kind of basin, so to speak, so i’m reading olenya took a bath olenya - this is a little white girl, this is a girl, yes, there is a two-year-old here, why is this not an ordinary name? well, firstly, living in the forest and i give victor a wish, i need it in the environment in which we live, i need to correspond, i couldn’t name her, let’s say, there olympics or fun, in what conditions do we live, such conditions dictate the way of life, dictate, namely, you gave or the father? well, victor offered, as if he wouldn’t refuse , but that’s it, because you say, victor decided everything for your family, well, for many years, yes, so i read, forgive me, but deer is in honor of the deer, or what? yes, because she was saved by the meat of a wild animal, and what happened as a hona, well, in difficult conditions, especially since i’m young, as if, well, in our conditions it happens that parents don’t have milk and people feed
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artificial formula, and we fed her natural food, wait, that is, your daughter was...fed by a deer, yes, he fed him, fed me, i got milk, continue to feed her, and then later we boiled broths and made these meat broths, well this is how they give you milk formula, they give you milk, but it wasn’t milk, it was a meat broth, but your diaries, of course, should be published, a real novel, a great hunter waged a war with the king bird, managed to beat him up, and then it was a mess, great... . who is this? i meant my husband, but did you call him that? not no called it, it was simply expressed figuratively in the notes. and you never really, as sasha said, didn’t want to publish this? well, this is probably personal, why do i need it, especially since some people seem to have some negative attitudes, some admire it, some seem to be indignant,
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so i’m not a fan, you, you have days besides. there are textbooks and books here, where did you get them from in the taiga? well, the thing is that sometimes victor came out, there was a connection with the world, he went out to people, anyway we needed some products, for example, flour, he went out, no, i didn’t go out, i sat at home with the children, i didn’t have any such desire to go somewhere and go out, that is, we got acquainted with the world, it turns out, through these newspapers, but i want to say that you not just newspapers, just a moment. from fashion magazines, that is, you followed fashion, well, yes, probably so, but how, but how am i going to sew for them, for my children, and you tried to sew according to models, well, i stuck to it a little, but why you saved exactly this newspaper, this newspaper from the year ninety on december 11,
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moreover, this is still the soviet union, this is still the soviet union, but there were probably some valuable ones for us, there was valuable information for us, a witness. in the soviet union in one country, but came out in a completely different country, in a completely different country , excuse me, but did you know that the soviet union collapsed, of course, we definitely know this, we have all the information on hand, we brought victor he brought this information, oral information, told it, from newspapers, i understand, you said that you looked after the children, but you never. wednesday came out, i knew what was there was happening, especially since the collapse of the union began, some peculiar transformations and changes occurred, on the contrary , they even frightened me, and what news
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struck you, well, most of all, of course, from the news, the collapse of the soviet union struck, that this is my dear if only the government in which i was born, which raised me, raised me, helped with my parents, it was of course a big shock, now there is a short pause, immediately after the live broadcast, which forced the taiga hermit to escape from the forest to ask for help from people, she talks about this was silent 20 years old, diaries don't light up, switch man. not dangerous in everyday life. the virus is not transmitted through shaking hands, hugging or kissing. find out more on ospidera. come on, all together. i will jump to you and strangle you. this is the kind of love we have on the wall, dear friends. let's watch it all together. today at 21:30. more questions?
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continue. what was the daily routine like? in taiga? oh, the daily routine in taiga, it is very complex, hard and difficult , because you get up in the morning, think about how to feed the children, but even if there were no children, then feed yourself, and he constantly got up at work at dawn and the working day ends darkness, because in the dark nothing can be done, all the time all the worry was gone, about organizing food, how to cook, feed, what to cook, what to feed, we had to first come up with something to get this food, but we couldn’t go to the store and buy sausage there, to buy some kind of cheese there, you first had to buy this sausage alive, process it, make a piece of sausage out of it, and by the evening it also ended with everyone being fed and drinking. besides, my mother already had problems with what to dress the children in, something had to be altered or sewn something new, so there is always a constant work of time; now you put
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such an emphasis on fashion and you know, i remember .. 2005, when you first appeared on television in andrei malakhov’s program five evenings, there you were in a chic a dress that is still relevant today with a fashionable hairstyle, i want to remind you of these shots, attention, anna antipina, we meet anna, good evening, how many years have you lived with your loved one, 20 years, lived, how many 20? 20 years and not once did you have any doubts about going there, not going, that’s when he suggested it to you, no, at first i didn’t have any doubts, doubts appeared when i faced great difficulties in the taiga, you gave birth somewhere in the taiga or you already had children, yes, no, we have children, we were all born in taiga, everyone is in the taiga, and how many of them you have there , four, four, girls you gave some strange name, strange name and two of my children died in the taiga, they
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brought up all these deprivations already friend. the opinion that it is very difficult to live in the taiga, especially for a woman, yeah, but how did you decide, how did you decide to give birth, and to name the girl deer, because deer witnessed your birth and were the only ones who helped you, despite how you could make up your mind, so he bit your umbilical cord, because you had nothing for with your hand, when you listen to stories like this , you bit the umbilical cord, well, the thing is, the husband bit the umbilical cord, but where is the husband now? my husband, unfortunately, did not agree with my opinion that we need to get out and return to civilization; he died in our taiga. how did you decide to return to normal life? well, i don’t know, maybe it’s normal, life was normal for us too, we just decided to change our lifestyle, the children grew up, it became difficult for us to live in our little hut, food became an issue, the children grew up, which means more and more
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more was required for food, but we could no longer provide them with purely decorative goods, get meat somewhere , animals, birds, herbs, these berries, as if all this were already satiated, as if it were no longer satisfying, well, i say, basically what motivated me to such a feat was that the children had grown up, it was necessary to decide some kind of fate for them, that is, it was your decision to return, yes, if at the beginning of my life’s journey victor guided me and suggested me, then later all subsequent decisions are quite adventuristic i did. victor didn’t come back with you, well, he basically didn’t want to come back, he said, this is my life, this is my ideal, how i would dream all my life about living in the taiga, in solitude with my family, and i won’t go, you’re on your own now they said, life with a family, well, you say, some problems had accumulated, others, it was necessary to solve them, it was necessary to go out to people, is this really selfish for him, i want to live in the taiga, more important than you, more important than my children, well, probably
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he considers his discretion... that he provided he did his best to provide for us, gave information, brought these textbooks, and the children were taught using various textbooks, but apparently not only a selfish opinion, probably, most likely, there is some kind of ideal picture of the world, so after life in taiga, you didn’t go to the city, but stayed to live in the village and started your own farm there, moved here, and we’ve been living here for 20 years. we settled in, planted flowers, we have a large farm, i now have two cows, almost milking, a young bull, a heifer, last year's bull has five heads, chickens, geese, let's go see the geese, just don't yell , otherwise none of you are accidents, we have chickens here, come on!
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here, this is a teacher for our little cows when they don’t obey, a scarecrow, as they say, a small one, a shepherd, the most important one, so that the household is brought up in the same way as my children, this is my sun protection alley, it’s very hot in the summer , and i really like it when we plant these, it’s generally beautiful and cool. this is our bathhouse, where we wash ourselves every week, the most sacred thing in village, this is a bathhouse, so that after righteous labors you can go in, wash yourself and be absolutely clean, sinless, we have a vegetable garden, in those years we kept a large vegetable garden, we only had 22 acres of vegetable garden, this year we already thought that we no longer
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we will cope with the tasks and decided to plant a little less, we can boast about how big the cucumbers we have grown in the greenhouse, we have grown zucchini here, and so we picked them like a polemic , we won’t... we won’t change our minds, but at least it will be delicious caviar, you can prepare caviar in the store for the winter don’t buy squash, in the village, but the day starts early , especially in the summer, at 5:00 you have to get up and take the cows to the field, milk, take the cows to the field, sayana, sayana, where are you, my daughter, let’s go milking, i didn’t finish eating you yesterday, but how did you manage to do everything here, you ugly creature? it was you who did everything here, my nurse, the most unique cow in the world, brought a bull, why do i have her like that, because she gives me the most delicious milk, the cow in the village, that’s all,
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that’s life, you don’t need anything, you don’t need it us no city pickles, we have everything of our own , butter, sour cream, cottage cheese, we make cheese from cottage cheese, well now we have everything , because the most important thing we fed was potatoes, there is a vegetable garden, there are potatoes, there is a cow, there is milk, there is milk, which means there is butter, cottage cheese, now we drink tea from a silver teapot, and before, once from a smoky kettle with the smell of smoke, i miss that, sometimes i want to escape, sit, relax by the fire, well, the children love it, no matter how sit by the fire and breathe in the smoke. with the day the smell, after moving, when we left taiga, we bought this house, we arrived , it seemed like a big mansion to us, there was a lot of space here for us, we gathered in this room in the hall, we always
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watched tv together, yes 16 years, my life is connected with the taiga, you want, but with a gun, of course, we don’t have much, we mostly did - we caught these traps, there were dies , traps to give birth to a policy, i had a reliable security guard, this is mine, my protection , my health, everything is here, another moment of me struck, i took the deer all day like crazy, where did your husband take the deer, well , he probably took her too, they probably went to check the tracks, and he went to teach her something competent, took the deer, i... all day like mad, you tell me what was there, forgive me, years have already passed and i seem to have completely written down what i wrote down, i kind of don’t remember it anymore, but something happened, it means we already had a fight, after and after 2 you’ve been running away from there for years, well, i
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’m not running away, i’m telling you again, i’m not running away, i’m going out and asking people for help, so that they would help us, or reject us on the contrary, or, on the contrary, say, no, we don’t need us like that, as we started to live, so live such a life, i went to people for help, i didn’t run away, well, as if in my soul, i’m soviet a person, a graduate of the soviet era, i believed that there are a lot of good and kind people on earth , they will definitely help us with victor , but we didn’t talk about that, let’s go out, settle down, survive this moment, how will we earn something? - cash, and then, let’s look at the circumstances, to my reaction there, whether i want it or not, maybe we’ll move somewhere again to a nature reserve in a distant taiga or somewhere else again, but victor did not agree with this opinion that we need to take such a step-by-step step, leave to the village, people will help us, we will settle down, we will grow the same potatoes
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, victor had the skill in his hands, he was a stallmaker, a cabinet maker of the sixth category, he could make wonderful skis, in the taiga taiga villages they are in great demand, he can even make these skis could be big, would be big earnings, capital. basically, with this capital we could settle down and move somewhere again, transfer, if we choose. well, he didn’t agree with this step, so it turned out that he died in the tag, he was left alone, you left when you said, you turned 16 years old sotchy, and left the forest when the deer turned 16, maybe your husband started look at the deer? no, no , categorically... he had no such thoughts, he had his own ideological principles, life only in the taiga and raising healthy , strong children, and so that they would have offspring strong, this is not the case, but what happened, you were obviously afraid of him, you obeyed him, called him
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a great hunter, and then you once found the strength to leave, to run away, why? well, i’m saying what happened, that over the years of living in tag i realized that it would still be difficult for us as a family with children to survive in... and yes, we need to give the children something, but we couldn’t give more, did you sneak away or? yes, i left secretly, i didn’t warn him about it, how it happened, well, my daughter and i often went with lenin and went fishing to the river and where people lived and where the paths were, which roads led out and we just went as if once again to stock up on supplies to catch fish, she walked me to the river, we said goodbye to her, and i went to the bank of our big beryusa river, famous, but there are people everywhere , on the other side there is a strip and there are fishermen fishing, driving and, as they say, swimming in boats and fishing on the shore, i just went out, i see a man standing, as if he waved, well, but you went out
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alone, and i went out alone, and the children , the children stayed, all the children stayed at home in the bark, alena, by the way, let me tell you, now she sounds like alena in a modern way , i’m already used to calling her, now she changed her name when we left the taiga, i now have her alena, she went through the wild taiga, 11 to the deer, yes deer, she went home with this backpack of fish, where there are two or three. a kilogram of fish was carried to feed the children with his younger brothers, but you said that you want to run away, because the children need, need a village, need a city, and at the same time you leave the children with him, well, i can’t with small children in my arms. take them and collect them there’s a backpack to go, it’s just like victor says, he’ll see, firstly, and secondly, i needed to experience for myself where i was going, then you came back for them, yes 2-3 days i stayed in the village, they helped me, we agreed with the head.
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that he told us, i contacted the local village administration, that he would help us, explained the situation, that life had become unbearable, one might even say figuratively, and we agreed that he would send a car for us, help us go to the village, you returned not alone with the glory of the settlement, no, i returned another one, you’ve been gone for two or three days, you’re coming back alone, what did your husband say? well, of course, he was very indignant, offended, and it was, as they say, as i love in principle in the family , well, it’s a small scolding, as if he was scolding me, but why, why, we seemed to live well, i provided for you with everything, everything was, and the children, on whose side in this conflict they were, uh, well, the children met them a little in fear, as if a little dumbfounded, they probably, well, i went out to people, and the children, especially, had never seen people, they were of course afraid that suddenly something with mom, how were you able, how were you able to take the children later, we were just talking. how did they not see people?
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you say, there were pickles there, people were walking through the forest, hunters, you looked at a fashion magazine , so what, look at the pictures, but one thing is to communicate directly, talk to a person, but if a mushroom picker goes to the policy, that’s what you did , you once said, no, we didn’t have mushroom pickers, because we still have such a secluded area, few people passed by, mostly hunters, what are you saying to children? they told you, and or your husband told your children about other people, well, your husband told you that the union had collapsed, that people there were also surviving in difficult conditions, that pensioners, for example, were standing in line for a pension, the pension was not paid at that moment in these nineties were like there were some special ones, well, he talked more, of course, about the shortcomings of society , concentrated more attention on them, and when i came, i said, well, it’s okay, i ’m listening to you, you’re asking me, your the children lived among the wolves, the bears were unlikely to be frightened by retirement, lack of pension and waiting list, no, why? well, they don’t know what this is in principle, that is, you know how
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they scare children with a babayka, that is, victor scared them with a pension or what, he told the difficulties that are happening in the world, not pensions, children in general they were afraid of people, other people, well, to put it simply, they were afraid, just a little afraid , well, it turns out that somehow mowgli’s children were, no, they weren’t, no, the children were not mowgli, they were educated, we taught them this way to these participants, a 3-year-old deer... could tell pushkin’s fairy tale about the dead tsar in these heroes are all on the same page from beginning to end, it was even 3 years old, i understand correctly that this is the main message that your husband said, that living among people is bad, well, we can agree with this principle, and lenya was able to adapt to the usual life? well , gradually, gradually, more or less, she got involved in this way of life, but she has the character of her father, she is just as adventurous, she is constantly on the lookout, is she like her father? yes, but she doesn’t want, since the character is the same, to follow in
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his footsteps, go into the forest, well, so far this was not in the plans, but in the future life will show, i’m just asking why, they say that she has become withdrawn and does not communicate with people, well, yes, she, maybe these some negative aspects have affected her, she has withdrawn a little into herself, that to be such a pure person, trust people completely, that’s what you need... we trusted everyone with everything and from the pure we always told everything to happen in life, but there were some negative aspects, most likely, this put it off on her a little, after all, the children came out it seemed like some were condemnation, they said, these are the kind of people who should be punished, the children were born in taiga , had no medical conditions, were different and were probably wild and probably ill-mannered, probably couldn’t read or write, although she herself wrote such wonderful poems and
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i read them and told them, and also the rest of the children were educated, i read a lot of fairy tales in the tag, but did i get them from my peers? i got it with the younger children, but as if from my memory, as if not very much, most of all we have all the hardships from these responsible people got it from the deer, she was already an adult girl, the approach to her was natural at the level of these children, and these children, well, they knew how to drink and smoke, this was not often offered to them, she rejected it all, she did not understand it, how can a girl, let’s say, smoke or drink, after being converted by the staiga, get sick? well, the adaptation was small , we got sick, yes, it’s basically a viral flu, there weren’t any such serious or chronic diseases, that’s it , your mother didn’t wait for her grandchildren? she saw her grandson, she saw the deer, she saw
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here is ivanyushka, whom we wanted to call northerners according to our taiga law, our traditions, law, but again from the position of civilization, i said, no, enough of such strange names, let’s still call her, usually, well, let’s call ivan, and how she saw them, she came to visit you, we came to visit her ourselves, we found her, after so much letskit , we found her ourselves, we came to visit her, she was familiar, met our children, just as she met you, well, in the village life, as if all this everyday life happens normally, well, we cried of course, together, that maybe they didn’t even hope that we would meet, no one, let’s say, thought that i would accomplish such a feat and come out. to people, i thought that i would live through everything cruelly, were you ashamed in front of your mother that you abandoned her for 20 years? well, probably, of course, it was inconvenient, ashamed, i also felt sorry for her, because her life didn’t seem to have worked out very well , it also happened to her that you had to endure the hardships of life, well, mom is mom, mom has forgiven, i
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forgive now my children, my mother forgave me, she and my older sister said that it was what you would do and what, but you didn’t stay with you, with your mother, well, we just couldn’t, because we needed to somehow adapt in this world to start our own way of life, not mom, so mom would have helped me adapt, she has a household, she has everything, there was no need for it, we are, after all, sociable people, we quickly get used to that environment, we get into the rhythm of that life, so why did we need a mother stress, she's already old. we would have to help her ourselves with something about the same that is, you need to take care of your mother, well, we were trying to find a place to decide where to live, where then we would take her, and what did your mother say about her ex-husband, who became your husband? well, you know, i won’t answer this question, and you need to ask them what they were talking about then, i’m not unique to them, well, everything was
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i begin to remember, the premiere on the russia channel is an incorrect prescription, from which he died, i did not deal with this drug, how could i prescribe it, even by mistake. we have one way out, i ask you not to get involved in this matter, so, i don’t understand anything at all, doctor krasnov, on monday at 21:20 on the russia channel, songs from the bottom of my heart, only this sunday at 16:50 on the russia channel, this is the russia tv channel. live today the unique story of the taiga hermits antipins, which was talked about by the entire soviet union, to this day anna cannot forget her
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hermit life in a deep forest with her husband and children, there was not a day when she did not remember the twenty years she lived in a tiny hut among the wild animals. we continue. when you left with the children, you went to the village of serebrova in the irkutsk region, and the first person you asked for help was the head of this post. it’s behind this mountain, here’s the road, here it is in the direction, like that, roughly it’s here, here it is behind those mountains, basically everyone knew that they lived there in the forest... when people saw it for the first time, i said that i know everyone like this, but for some reason i don’t know such beautiful girls,
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but she says, and we forest, anna, well, since they are forest, i say, let's get acquainted, we met, it was the tretyakovs anna and olenka with their eldest daughter, i say, why do you live there, why do you live there, don’t go out to people, but we would like... to come here and move, i say, let ’s get ready then, i ’ll move you at any moment, from here, if you go to them, to hut, on what road i took them out, then it’s about, well, a little less than 30 km , somehow i didn’t even like it, but how was it possible to live there with the kids, well, she showed me, she says, they messed it up and went to bed in a tumbled place, there was no longer room for one person to lie down; she or she constantly lit
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the stove in the winter, sitting near the stove. there was no place to lie down there, one secondary window, just like that, the door was full of holes, on the left, on the right there were bunks, narrow, literally 80 centimeters each, sitting there, it was difficult to position, let alone put the children themselves, well, it’s terrible to live out 13 years and give birth to more children, there in this hut, in these conditions. when they moved, i took them straight to serebovo, they allocated an apartment, renovated it already, before bringing them in, they renovated it, some of the furnishings were already there, they brought firewood there, heated it all, they already carried people, some potatoes, some bread, sister i probably supplied them with potatoes for the whole winter, well, people were very nice and
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friendly. i tried very hard so that they wouldn’t get lost, i took them by car through the villages, showed them, don’t be afraid, they were immediately assigned to school, with clothes of course, help, textbooks, well, they were accepted as expected, like all russian people, and the kids were all good, they studied, they studied well, they immediately enrolled them in school, documents, there was a lot of red tape with documents, while they were getting the documents done, this... they had to get birth certificates and passports and everything in general, well, that was enough, there was enough work with them there, she planted a garden near her right away, they helped buy a cow, got a cat, well , to live in the village, it’s clear that you can’t live without it, a vegetable garden, victor is the head of the family,
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i tried to talk to him, but he rejected civilization, that i don’t even understand how it was possible to live, so he just said that people here live from people, i say, go out to people, not everyone is in sin, you just need to cleanse your soul in the taiga, but people, people help you, you live at the expense of people, you go out, well, if you want to live there, you at least take the kids out, what’s more, he’s the only one left there, he’s already... “i fed you all the time, now you feed me, but it was my father who said something, you looked like that, your eyes were wet, it felt like you do you regret that this life no longer exists, yes, i regret that this life no longer exists, it was charming, clean, calm, we
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basically had everything. not to say that it was actually heroic, bravely bold, if you approach the question from this position, well , heroic on your part, on victor’s part, it seems to me that this is irresponsible, for this heroic feat there is no right, this is on his lungs , as they say, i would have been on my own, let’s say i hadn’t gone to taiga and decided on the main heroism - i didn’t run away, i just left, and yes, to some extent she saved the children, but here are the dead children, there are babies, this is on his conscience, i will tell you again, among that world of civilization, among experienced professionals and professors, there are the same victims, this
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not isolated cases, these are not unique cases, but this happens... from his father, who became a husband, these are his words, well, maybe, why not, i also grew up next to him, was brought up and we lived together for so many years , but if it weren’t for vasily ubukhov, it’s unknown how yours would have turned out life moves on, we meet you, but you want to shake your hand, good afternoon. but you are the first person to whom anna turned for help, and you probably experienced a real shock when you saw real hermits, well , i’ve already heard a lot, so it’s not like i was shocked, when they appeared, i’m like at my sister’s once i was there, i said, why don’t i know you, such beautiful girls, why don’t i know,
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you see. and how did they differ from your neighbors? they differed in what way, in their clothes, because the deer was wearing a military uniform, and a soldier, i guess i didn't grow up. her kitty had short pants like this, short ones like that, well, she would have been dressed in taiga style , so to speak, we corresponded to the environment in which we were, you are now listening, embarrassed, and what did you find in vasily that you could do it for him trust when you go out to people? well, first of all, we didn’t find anything, we turned to the administration, at that moment... he was the chairman of this administration, that’s what lured him or endeared him to us, well, in general , he’s kind of a sincere person, he has responsive character. vasily, what were
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the children like, besides their appearance, how were they behaved? they, i wouldn’t say that they were such mowglis, first of all, they knew how to read and write, they knew how to read, they knew how to write, whoever taught them, either victor or, well, you see. victor studied, because victor himself was very well-read, he was very literate, well, he left already well-educated, in general, he apparently studied, you could talk to him on any topic, he was so very well-read, it's not like that's some kind of stupid, illiterate, no, and kids. everyone was like this, they went straight to school, they had already been taught basic literacy, but the eldest of these children was a deer, they already told us that she could recite pushkin’s fairy tale by heart, that is,
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the child was completely social, i talked to everyone, yes, but what happened then, because they say that she became isolated, you know , this is such a sect, alenya ended up in a sect, yes, why did she get in, maybe they are treating her in such a way that they got into her soul , here she got caught, but her character is so strong, i would say, if she ran into something , it would be difficult to get her out of there, well, she ’s just like her father in character, in your village they say that she can go into the taiga with this a sect? it’s quite possible, she has such a character, she’s so tough, unfortunately, our time on air has come to an end, but in exactly a week, watch the continuation of this amazing
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story of taiga hermits, the antipin family, their children, born in the remote taiga, who were called real mowgli , will come to our studio to tell you what 50 years ago the inhabitants of taiga warned everyone about... well, that’s all for today, goodbye, love your loved ones. hello, dear friends, ladies and gentlemen, comrade. hello, your favorite program 60 minutes is live about the most important things. so, putin met in the kremlin with soldiers who were awarded state awards for military feats in the northern military district zone.
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