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Understanding 9/11tv Utro Rossii RUSSIA1 October 30, 2023 9:30am-9:55am MSK
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[000:00:00;00] this operation, let’s say you manage to defeat hamas, maybe you will even be able to free the hostages by military, military, non-political means, all these three formats, i call them hypothetical, because most likely, everything is so good, it is impossible and will not happen , but even, let’s say, the question is fundamental, and what then , what’s next, if that’s all: this story begins without understanding what it is, what the political and military-political consequences of everything are, then the answer to many questions simply doesn't exist the only plan that was voiced is that they put arafat there, and he, in general, personifies power, but find arafat, firstly, arafat, excuse me, he grew up in arafat for 30 years, you find such an arafat, it
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’s difficult. abasa, abasa, ah, and then, wait, there is one more question, the most important question, i’m just about to go to hamas for the trip, because, listen, now no one, not a single oracle, not a single forecaster, will answer our question , to your question, when will this military operation begin, if you imagine, that it will not last a day, not two, but judging by everyone, that’s how it will be, a week, a month, maybe several months, we really think. that against this background, the entire surrounding arab world will sit with interest and watch how the heart will calm down there , and the likelihood that a full-scale military mess will begin from all sides, which will drag in the americans, who will be forced to use their aircraft carrier potential, which is now there undermined, colossally high, and why is
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hamas in moscow, well, first of all, we are not hamas created, this is the first, these are questions for the americans and the israelis, about the question of whether we can or cannot contact them, second, this is not the first time we have hosted hamas representatives, this is the second, third, we are discussing there two fundamental topics, the first topic, there are hostages, russian citizens , there are six people named who are there now, second, we are principled supporters of a political settlement and we... with hamas today we are discussing these topics, including if there is no communication with hazbalah , with hamas, if the only focus is on finding a new arafat, then you know, this will end in world war iii, of course, everyone needs to understand this. olegovich, but there is a thesis: we didn’t talk to al-qaeda, why are we talking to hamas, but because you know the level of threat that
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the middle east conflict poses to the world today? it’s just several orders of magnitude cooler than al-qaeda and al-qaeda - it was a purely american project created as a solution to certain anti-russian problems, it seems to me that the scale is just completely different the scale, i hope you are not making excuses, now we have met because it is in our interests in our interests in the interests of a political settlement, and now the main thesis, you know, now if we take the ukrainian situation, the trip. the story is taiwanese, you know what happened, in my opinion, one very important thing is happening before our eyes, the americans have always, to my great regret, quite successfully implemented this strategy of controlled chaos , we ourselves will set it on fire, we will extinguish it ourselves on our own terms, from this we get once again either
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political or military, or some kind of strategic profit, profit, that means, it seems to me, now, why some decisions in europe are going so poorly, it’s not about orban, and it’s not about what happened there in slovakia, but because, by the way, this is also important, because scholz lost all the local elections, and polls show that if the elections in france were held tomorrow, marie lepine would have won, that is, this is the policy that is being pursued today by the collective west in the middle east, in ukraine. and let's just say, on on the taiwanese track, it somehow does not really evoke political support in these countries, but it also splits the elite, i am not inclined to exaggerate the capabilities of the republican there after mr. johnson’s victory in the senate, oh in congress, but representatives, but he is absolutely pro-israel as a politician, ukraine is quite far away for him
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, it’s clear that there are problems there. will definitely appear with the ukrainian track. this is about the idea of controlled chaos, where i decide everything myself, i will find a victorious solution everywhere, in my opinion, it is obvious. starts to malfunction, and i draw your attention to the fact that in the american political elite now there is no complete unity on what to do there in the middle east, in different ways today, there is a half-crazed biden, to whom they write corresponding speeches, and he says what it means to decide these problems are brought about by force, well, it is specified, but it is specified this way, just for the sake of order, but i think that today there is no complete consolidation in this part, why am i... saying all this, the fact that the crisis there will grow, for me there is no doubt, but for sure, today there is no
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unconditional victory, especially a military victory, and this signal is heard today by very many, on whom the future of humanity and the future of the method of resolving the middle east crisis depends, you mentioned the visit of hamas, russia clearly did not listen because of this visit, yes, that we are accomplices of terrorists . accomplices of terrorists, if we are talking about the fate of our citizens, i will remind you that there are not only hostages, six people, whom, as our ambassador to israel said, but also hundreds of russian citizens who cannot leave gaza, hundreds, they draw up lists, meade is ready to withdraw them, but they are simply not released, if a full-scale military operation begins there, their fate will become even more problematic, hamas, and of course, these reproaches from israel, from the united states, they, well, it’s not that they are incorrect
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, it seems to me that we shouldn’t pay attention to this, they stopped talking to us correctly a long time ago, by the way, they’re also like that, they ’re just stupid, it’s just that people don’t solve these problems on their own, they don’t do anything to to solve them. and criticize those who are trying to intervene in the situation and influence it, let's see what they write about hamas's visit to moscow. putin welcomes hamas to moscow, he forms an axis of terror when he meets with them, this is an axis of terror. israel judged moscow's move. obviously, for them this is an obscene act that can be compared to supporting terrorism. russian officials met with the terrorist group. i want to say that hamas is not palestine. it is obvious that some people support the palestinians, i support palestine in their right to have their own state, i mean that only after they stop trying to kill all the jews, but anyway, the point is hamas stop, yeah, sorry, no palestinian would
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do what hamas is doing , but they are now entering into an alliance with iran and russia, but why did russia take such a step? i don't know, but it's worrying, it's a serious blow to israel. tel aviv tried to reconcile russia when it came to ukraine, but israel was neither against nor for, and one can say that russia today he repays them in kind, they just swapped places, like children on the playground, yes, hypocrisy now in the west is just like clothing, that is, an obligatory accessory, please, returning to the west, in europe now, in my opinion, an interesting... process is beginning to take place , if we take orban’s statement, the statement of the new prime minister of slovakia, then we see an attempt to revive the euro-atlanticists. let me remind you that traditionally in europe there have always been two parties after the second world war. the first
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is the atlanticists, only focused on the usa and nothing more, and others were euro-atlanticists who said yes, orientation towards the united states, but at the same time we must build our own dialogue with the soviet union. from russia and politically and economically in addition to the united states. these are the politicians that we liked, besides the anti-atlantist, the outspoken one, there were the so-called euro-atlantists, most of the prime ministers of italy , helmut kohl, schröder, then the french presidents like waleristin or chirac, and then the obama administration did everything to remove the euro-atlantists from the map , since there is no need talk to russia, why do we need euro-atlanticists? now this is what orban is talking about, that you don’t give us excessive powers to the obama administration, that they suddenly changed the regimes, they did
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something more cunning, they brought sarkozy closer, helped him move away from galism, they imposed the union treaty between france and great britain, essentially violated the franco-german traditional tandem with the lancaster pact of 20, that is , they made france a junior partner of great britain, not even the united states, this is how the role of france and germany decreased she began to rush around and was offered one too. “come on, you will be the support of nato’s eastern flank, but without friendly relations with russia , the obama administration proposed such a combination, the european elites agreed to it, why, that’s another question, now it’s finding out, because there was nothing to talk about with russia , now it turns out that a mediator is needed, we need to prepare for the fact that there will be no great military successes in ukraine , it will be necessary..." to freeze the conflict at some point, which means we will need to find
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a mediator, so perhaps initiatives joint similar hungary, slovakia, this is an attempt to find such a mediator, this is an attempt to find some, let’s say, those leaders in europe with whom russia will be ready to talk, well, at least that’s what they think in brussels and washington, about a possible future freeze on some conditions as a conflict, by the way, this is not the first attempt, please note, there was an attempt to find in the form of italian prime minister miloni, how much noise there was when she went to the elections, that there would be a person ready to almost conduct a dialogue with russia to help ukraine achieve its terms at the negotiating table. in the end, what did we see? we saw the maximum of what miloni is capable of, it’s some kind of or it’s hard
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anti-russian. an unambiguous anti-russian course, or some kind of family semi-scandals, what is now happening around this figure, well, okay, the girl there is dealing with family problems, nothing, she will cope, come to her senses, and will act on the side of good, that is, on our side, yes , one and a half didn’t come out, the most powerful pressure inside, well , the pressure is on everyone, but here’s fitz, who says that a hamas attack on israel is like a ukrainian attack on donbass, we like such a mediator, let him actually act, but the main thing is that at the negotiating table they don’t impose on us some cunning terms that are not very favorable to us, well, i i don’t remember over the last dozen years that anything was imposed on us there, there was one unpleasant incident, let me remind you, yes, libya, the last story that was openly imposed on us, i am pro-constituting the russia-nato act. how much hope we had,
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france, germany will freeze nato expansion to the east. yes, now we will play on the contradictions between the usa and germany. kohl arrived in january 1997 and said: “guys, take nato’s expansion to the east as a given.” well, we are ready to give in to you a little bit here, sign some kind of declaration with you. nothing more, there was, i remember how i described, at least primakov. and yeltsin in his memoirs, what confusion there was in moscow, how is it so, our mediator and friend, on whom we pinned so many hopes that he would stop the british, americans, even they don’t like the word anglo -saxons, but it turned out that he offered us a compromise, 80% in their favor and 20% in your favor, we have no friends, we have interests, churchel
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said so, we’ll come back. so put all business conversations aside for today, what if something is important, a mirror of lies in the previous episodes, i can’t believe it, nelya, what happened, they say that they were robbed when they were walking home from the train, dina cannot come to terms with the death of her friend begins your own investigation, go out for a walk, okay, i'm kidding, i... need it, well, look, like in the old days, but no, he business, well, of course, on business, but maybe the search for the killer, this is just an excuse, it seems that you are playing detective, have come up with something for yourself, an important call, dean, you don’t want to tell me anything, you don’t love sergei, i i see this is a mirror of lies,
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a headache, god forbid now beep , if you win, then cheers 100 to one, every saturday and sunday on... the leader of the opposition knest yairlapit directly said that the international media, which objectively describe the conflict in the middle east, act in the interests of hamas, that is, to cover only the crimes of hamas militants , but not the bombing of peaceful areas by the army israel, telling the truth is, according to latvid, anti-semitism, listen. if the international media is objective it serves hamas, if it simply shows both sides it serves hamas. my argument is that the media cannot simply claim to cover both sides, it is a desecration of the victims, including the palestinians, it is also a desecration of the very idea of what
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journalism is. believe me, i know, i've been a journalist for 31 years, i have no problem criticizing israel. but when you know that one side is lying and the other is doing their best to check the facts, the least we can expect is that you won't give them that platform? to be objective, to serve hamas, i ask you, i observe that dissatisfaction with the united states is growing in israeli society, because it is clear that the operation should not be started, this is the result of pressure from the united states, uh, the other day - i spoke with one israeli observer, politician , he said a very interesting phrase: they hold us for beitsy, and we smile, beytse on ivita are eggs, who holds, meaning, the americans, that is , well, negative. it is obvious, it will grow, israeli society, it is now consolidated, but if in such a suspended
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state, it will continue for a very long time, if there is no exhaust, there will already be an internal split, which is important to note here from the point of view in terms of what problems there are with the israeli operation , in addition to the obvious, in addition to the obvious, israel fears excessive casualties among the civilian population, well... because it is clear, if no one is demonized, that israel does not care it is necessary, secondly, it is obvious that if there are such victims in huge numbers, there will be strong pressure and justified pressure from the surrounding countries, from the world in general, in the usa there will be uproar, and of course, europe will naturally express russia's dissatisfaction, now what sahal is talking about, is that a lot of hamas military facilities are under the cover of civilian gas facilities. for example, today in sahal they announced that the main headquarters of hamas is located under the main hospital in gaza,
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city of gas, which, but sahal never stopped, now not, well, no , it still stops them, there will be a completely different number of victims, this hospital is not being evacuated now, they are not ready to strike now, they are holding a special press conference, to draw attention to this, to show this, if they wanted to strike, they would have struck, not to mention the tunnels, this is all obvious. any storming of tunnels means the death of hostages and this, well, in principle, means going into an unknown number of options. by the way, today alyabiya made an interesting, interesting publication that israel offered hamas to exchange all the hostages and certainly the bodies of the dead israelis, because there are bodies that hamas now has, in return israel will stop all hostilities, if true, well, this may be a fake, but if this the proposal actually came, this suggests
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that israel is now adjusting its position regarding the location of the hamas headquarters, but you know, you can believe it, you can not believe it, yes, that is, there is official information from the father, but both sides, of course, are now acting in their own interests, and i think the ministry of health. gases twist the numbers in their favor, and the israeli authorities are doing the same thing, this is understandable, look, in principle, hamas was already grabbed by the hand before when they actually deployed military facilities, let’s say, this happened for civilian purposes, if it is now or not, we don’t know, but this is what sahal is talking about and says that this is a problem for them, the israeli country now has three main tasks, the task number one is to liberate for... it seems to me that it is very difficult, solvable, if at all, by military means, i mean, task number two is to deal
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a strong blow to hamas, so that there is no new round of confrontation for at least 5-10 years, theoretically it is possible, it is possible, i absolutely agree that israel will cope with this through military means, but there are costs, israel understands this , task number three is not to do what hamas wants, a big war in the middle east, because in this war there in america it is clear that america will be integrated, but israel will be the worst, he is right there, he is right there, they understand it all perfectly , yes, i see, again, what israeli analysts are talking about, israel does not want a new big war in the middle east, they want to deal with hamas, close this question, without turning everything into such a global, global mess, will it work out or not, but this is the main question for this you must first understand what hamas is, it’s not four regiments there absolutely, hamas is somewhere around 30-35 , how many supporters, and how many people who
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ready, absolutely right, to fight for them, i think the key point here will be whether israel will ultimately be able to come to an agreement with egypt or not, because whether egypt will accept refugees, whether egypt will close or open checkpoints on the border, how in general egypt will stand in this situation , how it will behave, will depend on a lot, ending israel practically... now we can already say 99.9 will begin a ground operation, because this whole public mood and the political mood of israel are different, but everything will go to the start of the rura, they can’t do it any other way now, we’ll come back. for russia, the main premiere of the year, what a great moment, congratulations, and remember, i was the first to call myself great, not in vain, they admired her. will i ever be worthy of you, she was extolled, do you have a motherly,
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