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Understanding 9/11tv Utro Rossii RUSSIA1 September 2, 2024 9:30am-9:56am MSK
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healthy, about the most important thing, from monday to friday on rtr. due to the impossibility of mikhail sergeyevich gorbachev fulfilling his duties as president of the ussr for governing the country, to form a state the state of emergency committee in the ussr, as the whole country, is known. many remember the footage of rallies, barricades and military equipment on the streets of moscow, and the atmosphere of anxiety that hung over the city, as
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a recording of the press conference of the members of the state emergency committee, where they declared their desire to preserve the ussr as it was, and how in 3 days everything ended, the russian parliament, yeltsin, yelsyn, yelsyn, yeltsin, shame, shame, how today, years later, natalya narochenskaya looks at the events of those years, how they assess the roles of gorbachev, yeltsin and members of the state emergency committee in what happened and was was there any chance that the collapse of the country could have been stopped? this is life, fate about the august pushcha of 1991, historian and political scientist natalia drachnitskaya. natalia, my dear, brothers. thank you, thank you, we are meeting with you now at the beginning of autumn, only recently such a sad, probably, date has passed: 33 years with puchu, you know, i, to be honest with you, maybe out of
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naivety, maybe because i was very young then, i am growing more and more sympathy for the members of the state emergency committee, for some reason it seems to me that they wanted to save the country, or i... oh, dear boris, perhaps i agree with you, in any case, i also believe that they, albeit within the framework of their, perhaps , limited, slightly dogmatic thinking, certainly did not have any personal selfish motives, but acted openly and honestly, and of course, first of all, they announced this in order to preserve the unity of the country. this is a fact.
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state unity, which is never maintained, states change, it can be a principality, it can be the russian empire, it can be the soviet union, these are states, each of which had its own - sins, of course, because without sinful
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and perfect states cannot exist, because we are sinful and imperfect, here is statehood - it is like a fatherland, it is an eternal gift, and for me it was very important. therefore i also had a dual feeling, i can even also tell you that where the puch found me only 2 years old, how uh ended a rather long business trip, when my husband and i worked in the secretariat , he is in new york and two families without children we set off in two zhiguli cars, to the baltics, here in the hairdresser's, i remember, my... sweetheart and i sat down to get a manicure, we were watching tv, oh, the horror, everything in moscow is rioting, there are all these barricades, we throw away everything we've paid for, at 5 in the morning we leave for moscow, we drive to vitebsk, then the minsk highway, that is , back and forth, we stop somewhere, well, to wash
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our hands, we ask the police what 's going on there, what are they fooling around with, as always in the capital, people are walking with vegetables, tomatoes, it's summer. you understand everything, and i'm thinking, now, here the feature of modern revolutions, it is enough to broadcast a picture on television to the whole world - that's it, a revolution. the state must give in, and the rest of the country, that is, 90% of the population, is not even aware, does not know and perhaps takes a completely different position, this, by the way, is the feature of all today, many of today's revolutions, coups, changes , upheavals, all this is somehow done past the people, by the media, by the media, all this, nevertheless, over these 30 years you probably had the opportunity, unlike many of us, to read many archives, to communicate with very... many people, witnesses of the century of these events. tell me, all this wilderness, all these
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3 days of ninety-one, tanks, gorbachev in voros, cut telephone lines, yeltsin on a tank, was it a performance, or was it some kind of spontaneous, truly spontaneous story, or was it one of the largest manipulations of modern times, how was everything really, i think that everything was present in this. i have no doubt that those who proclaimed the state emergency committee, apparently discussed this, and thought out various plans actions, who to rely on, how about the army or something, how to take some commanding heights, but the other side knew about this, and it seems to me that it simply frankly calculated that they would use this... shaking of the already shaky structure of the state, in order
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to implement on its ruins all that which we later call post-perestroika, when we gave away all the paternal coffins of our history, supposedly in payment for totalitarianism, now imagine how we have to loosen up, so that again a little straighten your shoulders, these are the pincers on all sides. unclench, and this pincer is our historical destiny. the west, as soon as it sees internal unrest or even sponsors it, pretends to be our friend, pats us on the head, but takes everything away. and of course, i have a feeling, more and more, also today, from the height of today's events, from the analysis of who they later became and what they did, those who supposedly defended, that is, the white house and...
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it was simply the final shaking, the frame is shaking, suddenly somewhere in one place they are trying to somehow fix it, it starts to drill, everything starts to collapse, here are the enemies of the state emergency committee, opponents, those who, they used it masterfully, simply, relying on the mood, here is the euphoria of the moscow public and youth, who were tired of the mantras of the regional committees, and ...
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in the seventeenth year, much, much earlier, i listen to you, natalya alekseyevna, what picture is emerging, i can’t even fully see it, but look, what kind of manipulation of the people's consciousness is happening, people did not want the destruction of the ussr, they did not want it, but in order to change this alignment and public opinion, they are suddenly presented with a group of people, which also seems to be for the preservation of the ussr, and at the same time instantly with the help of...
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a hereditary feeling, but for people who are not used to thinking about anything and do not have a historical education, it is dangerous, because it manipulates them absolutely, so blood was needed, of course, this is just my god, how it was, these unfortunate guys died simply from a crush, they got caught, no one was going to kill them, naturally, but it was
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done right away, this is the crime of the state emergency committee, and of course these... people, the authors of the state emergency committee, they were immediately given the image of bearers of all that in soviet history, which was precisely what caused the negativity and which was boring, although i think that the main thing for them was to preserve the unity of the country. the most important question of all the august days, if this is the play "gorbachev", in it was one of the performers, an actor or director, who is all fine.
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here from the country, when he resigned his powers, he could say that i am leaving, because i no longer have levers, they were taken away from me, but what was done is a state the coup, the west manipulated him very skillfully, because he was obviously very susceptible to praise, a pat on the shoulder, and he simply blossomed from these compliments, they knew what... him, and of course, this elite, the last generation of the soviet elite was the most western, the most cynical, it perceived communism as an obstacle to the acceptance of their world oligarchy, and the price was named for gorbachev, yalta and podzdam, the baltics, the acquisition of peter the great, that is,
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three hundred years of russia's work in the south-west? my dad always told me, you know, praise of enemies, but this is only on the battlefield, that here is a brave enemy, yes, this elevates one's own struggle, because there is no feat in fighting against insignificance, really, but in general he says, in peacetime, if your
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western opponents, who sleep and see the weakening and limitation of your role, praise and pat their heads, this is very, very bad, therefore the fact that gorbachev was so, so praised, this, of course, played a very destructive role, i remember these people who are in the central committee, here they are all, they , they are all confused, all, there remember, the democratic platform in the cpsu , everything, it was, it was people who, just like their orthodox opponents, tolerated... could pre-revolutionary russia, they didn't need a great power, and we lost so much, you know, the entire subsequent legal basis of that period, our fall into the abyss, so to speak, when the country, everyone there
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was divided into groups and stood against each other, crucify him, crucify him, at that time... we just couldn't find agreement on any issue of the past, present and future, at such moments always external force very much receive, here the country in such a state necessarily loses what was won by centuries of historical path. it was necessary to think precisely about the unity of the state, that is why the question at... referendum on preservation of the ussr was put in such a way that at the same time for unity you vote for socialism, do you want to preserve there again there and socialist republics,
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the kingdom of heaven prophesied that the time will come, inevitably, russia will be reborn within the borders of the soviet union, russian empire, it will be administratively organized differently, he even said that we will have 60 provinces, how do you like this prophecy, the heart agrees with him, well, in principle, i would be happy about this.
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consciousness, here is the feeling that in our country not 100, not 30 years, but more than a thousand, absolutely right, absolutely right, and i hope it was, is and will be, and it does not matter whether we like
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everything that is happening in our country today , do you think i like everything, oh, i really don’t, but i see that the country now needs our support, because it is in on the right track overall. life and fate of natalia narochnitskaya. if you think that dad will let his son go alone to this terrible city for a golden scepter with diamonds like these. you don't know bender well, abram bender.
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everything is still ahead, i foresaw my fate, now everything is only coming true, everything is surrendered with joy, let's all wave our hands, when everyone is at home with timur kizikov, on sunday on rtr, opponents of statehood would like to choose the path of radicalism, they we need great upheavals, we need a great russia, a time of great premieres on rtr. to my dear maria petrovna stolypina, i am one of those revolutionaries with whom your father fought in saratov, and i undoubtedly intend to fight with...
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