tv Malakhov RUSSIA1 September 9, 2024 5:30pm-6:31pm MSK
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good evening everyone, you are on the russia tv channel, an incredible continuation of the scandalous story of the volgograd adoptive mother nadezhda fratti. let me remind you that in the 2000s she was involved in the export of about 1,260 russian orphans to italy. one of these exported girls was five-year-old lyuba varopakha,
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whose fate has remained unknown to this day. in 1996, all of olga gabdulina's children ended up in the kirov orphanage at once. the grandmother could not come to terms with this fate of her grandchildren and tried to take all four children under guardianship. with three grandchildren, this is it turned out, unlike lyuba, for whom the former director of the orphanage tatyana chaprina had completely different plans. she was 4 years old , the hope was that...
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lyuba, especially after the rumors that children were going for organs for wealthy foreigners. tell me specifically about my daughter, tell me, for god's sake, as you say in your soul, tell me, alive, not alive, she says, a cross to bear, she says, she is alive, the loss of lyuba split the family, olga gabdulina lost everything, first the connection with her own mother, and then the relationship with the children, the newspapers wrote about missing lyuba, when three sisters were separated, and today i will give the girls from...
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how do you feel? are you okay, what about us? does your heart beat, hearing that we found yours? yes, even when you said that time on that show, and now i've already had some carvorol, everything is calm, we'll talk. but let me remind you that you're talking about that show, you mean that broadcast, when you met valentina gerusova face to face.
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we found a trace of your lyuba, i'll tell you a secret, everything, everything will be fine, well then these tears of yours, you asked for them after the broadcast, and so that you saw your granddaughter, that the whole team, the whole brigade that was going on vacation, they put everything aside all summer worked on... so that
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your dream would come true, what do you have in your hands, please tell me, oh, andryu, if i came, why with photos, i would like to address... so that she would know how many nephews she has, she has eight nieces, one has just been born , you have a huge, huge family, how many children does your daughter olga have, well, four, and one left a fifth in the mine, the fifth girl, we together with the film crew arrived. to the orphanage where you last saw lyuba, your granddaughter, lyuburopakha, attention, so, here it is, the orphanage, 27 years ago
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they came here, oh my god, how hard it was to look into the eyes of the girls, all the children were running with... how many children there were, they took her from here for the new year , to celebrate home that same year, how much joy she had, how happy she was that nikita, dasha, tanya came, everything was fine, there was hope that she would be with us. and then just like that to inform that i nobody, lost, lyuba is gone, lyuba was taken to italy, like they took her 27 years ago, as we saw her, she was 4 years old, this year she will be 31, we remembered you, every year
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your birthday, we celebrated, remembered on your birthday, september 26, i blame myself too, maybe not... that's why they did this, we were looking for you all our lives, all these 27 years, oh, my god, everything is wrong, everything is wrong, we were here, we walked, here was the gazebo, here was the swing, here on the first floor we celebrated your birthday, lyubasha, four a year old, there were four candles, she was happy, i hoped, well, that we will all be together, we will be together, oh! lord, with all the saints help, lord, help me meet, find you, my love, lord, forgive, save, i remember you all every day, let's go , let's go from here, let's go from here, i can't, and
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lyuba had a biological father, we had no biological fathers, only one. only tanya knew, only tanya knew, each child is different, nikita had a legitimate one, we even bought rings for them, a legal husband , and lyuba, i don't know, a georgian or who anzor was, well, that is , there was no opportunity to hand over little lyubasha to her father or relatives, if you knew, when she was deprived of parental rights, lyubasha was not here at all, she was at...
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sitting and met there with fraite, and we met and frateva in the investigative committee, and that she met her somewhere there, how she, she told then that she pressed her said: here she also told us something like that and at home she tried to find out where her daughter was and frati said that don't worry, they didn't send her to the organs, she's alive, oh, just like you, listen to my will to myself, as my husband does to me, yes , he says, listen to her, do not respect yourself, i gave birth to a moral monster, listen, but olya, went to perm, came to the office to fratti, yes, made a confrontation with her, pressed her. also to the wall, yes, after which she fell ill, believes that fratti put a curse
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on her by italian witches, yes, we sent our correspondent alexander kazyavin to talk to olga, let's see, we need to find a bench over there, because there is a small one, i will not get up with that one, it is generally hard for you, well, i do not sit down, here i am... constantly after meeting with my brother, you still had some expectations, hopes
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after the meeting that it would help, well, there to find your daughter, well, we found my daughter, like the investigative committee gave us an extract from the zak journal, well, we were in limbo, yes, we prayed for everything to be fine. prayed for what? well, for lyubasha to be found alive, for everything to be fine with her, and of course i am grateful to andrei malakhov in your program for everything that happened, that they found it, everything, right now, considering that we are filming program, we have journalists working in italy, that's what you would like most now, well, just a friend to hug, i don't want to hug, i missed them all. you see, what would you tell her, that i
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love her very much, you would like to come to the program, i would like to come to the program, i don't have health, i would fall asleep in tears and wake up in tears, you see, my daughter and i are afraid that she won't want to communicate with us, the most important thing is that she is alive, healthy, we even ...
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followed her to tver, we even went, it seems to me, badly, editors, bring water, in any case, the investigative committee, when they saw the program, and personally alexander bastrykin conducted a large-scale investigation into the legality of the adoption, let's listen to the comments from... committees: during the procedural investigation conducted by investigators of the investigative department of the investigative committee of the russian federation for the molgograd region, according to information provided in the media, the fact of possible abduction to... the girl's mother was deprived of parental rights in 1996 regarding her daughter, who was placed in an orphanage located in the city of volgograd by guardianship authorities. the girl was udecher in 1998, the investigative committee checked the legality of the transfer of the child in 1998 from the orphanage to new
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parents. it was established that the violation of the legislation in force at that time when transferring to foreign citizens. decree of the then governor of the volgograd region zama on the procedure for transferring children foreign citizens, it was a normative act, yes, it was a normative act, where it was written who can, when they can, how they can, accordingly, the investigative committee conducted an investigation and did not find anything in the order of transfer of this - your granddaughter, accordingly, the violation of the law
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, everything was in accordance with the act that the hero of the program actually brought, in quotes, right? i know, there were definitely more than ten calls, she did not pick up the phone from me, although well, as long as i she went to work, we called her, well, i don’t remember, i never actively called her called. grandma told me that
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you can't trust your mom, everything she tells is a lie, and you think that in 20 years your mom hasn't changed at all, you know, it's still age, that is , she used to be younger, maybe she didn't think, now she's over 50, no one will ever get into another person's head what she 's thinking about now, well, i can't say, you're offended by your mom for the fact that you had such a childhood, when she abandoned everyone, drank, walked around, changed men, well, i guess i'm the only child who had enough strength forgive, oh good girl, and you didn't, and you didn't try to reconcile grandma and mom? there's a very old feud there, it's useless, that is, they don't even call each other, i even doubt that grandma and mom have each other's phone numbers, she called me when i got diabetes, she called, she says, she called, i picked up the phone, she said so and so, i found out
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you, i wish that in your life there would always be such a team, the blue bird makes dreams come true, so that the jury would give fair assessments, for details see the website seem.ru/ptitsa. once again, good evening everyone, we continue our international investigation into the case of "volgograd adoptive mother, former crown worker nadezhda shchelgacheva fratte". before the commercials. we heard the revelation of the relatives of lyuba varopakha, that the girl herself from the newspaper article with which we began our investigation, and today, today the answer to the question that 25 years ago from...
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rumors circulated around the city that children were being selected on the orders of wealthy foreigners who were eager to receive donor material. signora frati herself assures the opposite. she claims that the foreigners offered the children a new standard of living, unlike their own families, which were dysfunctional. and all the children are healthy, all are in italy, all have grown up, have already amazed their children. to look for lyuba. for the development of the story about lyuba the whole country is watching. today, our studio is working with a call center. lena, what are the viewers writing? let's be honest, the story of the villain nefratia and specifically the story of lyuba found a huge response
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from our viewers. and people are not stingy with their support for the family, especially for the sister, the grandmother, who did not give up all these years, lived with hope and faith that the girl is alive, but there are some questions, and as we understand, in addition to the girl who was sent to italy, there are other children in this family, but they are not talked about very actively, there are many such questions, let's listen to one such call, i can't imagine how much strength a grandmother must have to endure all this, the thought alone is scary? that such a thing is possible, and she lives in hopes of meeting her granddaughter, although it seems to me that she also profited from her grandchildren, she was paid benefits for all of them, it is also unclear to me about the girl's mother, why is she looking for only one girl, or is olya hoping for an italian daughter who will understand, forgive and out of pity shelter her in italy, well, but by the way, if we return to this photo new year's, and the last new year together
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dasha. here is lyuba italy and two grandchildren nikita and tanya, they were not in an orphanage, yes nikita has been in my arms since four months, i threw nikita at 4 months, only when the girls were deprived of parental rights, and i was granted guardianship only for him, and tanya, and tanya together with dasha were in an orphanage, yeah, but the middle daughter of tanya. she did not leave the country anywhere, but, as i understand it, she also ended the relationship with you, here is how she explains it, we found tanya, attention, and all her children, all my brothers and sisters were mothers unnecessary, and i turned out to be my grandmother's unloved granddaughter, there was no love for me, she beat me, she could break my nose
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until it bled because of what suddenly... but her mood got worse, olga gabdulina, who is my, well, biological mother, i buried her at 17, that's how i crossed the threshold - that ill-fated house, i went to study in tver, in tver my first daughter was born, my relationship with her dad didn't work out, we moved to live in st. petersburg, there we met my future husband and moved to the rostov region, where we are now, this is where we live, our apartment. we came here from st. petersburg because my husband is a military man, here is my husband with my baby, we are six months old, yes, yes, tell me, no one from the relatives knows about us yet, the biological mother had another grandson, that is, well, they don’t know about him, our eldest daughter lives here, our sister valeria, valeria has been 14 years for... years,
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i don’t know, they’ve probably seen us a couple of times, they don’t want to communicate, neither my sister nor my grandmother, birthdays, no one congratulates me, i used to pray very often, i really prayed to god that i would have another family, when my grandmother beat me, with a bloody nose, i read the father's prayer and prayed that i would have other parents, unfortunately, to this day i... can't forgive my grandmother, my mother, or my sister, i'm offended that i had such a family, why did i get such relatives, how did i deserve all this, when i think about the fact that lyubashka was adopted in italy, i,
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probably, it would be better if i were sold to italy or somewhere abroad to others, well , to my parents, maybe my fate would have been much better, here is a photo. from the new year, this is the only thing that remains, it is very clear from this photo, my grandmother's attitude, from my appearance, to me, even elementary in the hairstyle, everyone has a normal haircut, and i am like anything, as if on a kramsala, like a boy, a dirty sweater, i don't know how i look like a scarecrow here on her, well, and i only remember lyubashka like this, i have there were always thoughts like where? and what's wrong with her? i told yamu bashka that i love her very much and that she is dear, despite the fact that we were once separated, now they are looking for lyubashka, but i have only one guess, for what
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purpose they are looking, they hope that she will start to help them somehow, i want to see her, hug her, say that i am her sister, still say no... she doesn't need such relatives, thank god that everything is so good for her there, there is no sincerity in this search, it's like mom, there you divide half in half and more in half and 10 times, tanya did not communicate with us, her words were, i do not need anyone 's relatives, but so that you understand, i have a stable job with ... my husband, a stable job, my grandmother, yes, a pensioner, no one forced her to communicate with my mother, she stopped communicating with her, so that her grandmother would beat her until her nose was bloody - this is a lie, no, i 'll even tell you now, when she came,
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drunk and high, started sniffing, this is the same thing and slapped her, she started to fight, dad, call an ambulance, she knocked my jaw out, and ... and then he sat down and gnawed on sunflower seeds table, no, god be her judge, and then she came, she came, when they saw her off to tver, she came, she gave birth to a girl from one, that is, she gave birth while she was married to another, yes, no, but she gave birth from volgograd and lived in tver and was born from volgograd, the groom, where are they, where are they all, everything, they take... all the genes, all the genes were passed on, and whose genes does your daughter have, my mother-in-law, my aunt, my sister, my sister, i'm afraid to ask, but you said, she looks like your mother-in-law, well
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, in behavior, behavior, behavior, like you she doesn't look like that, she's just hinting at it, you don't see yourself, when i was working, my mother-in-law was helping, well, they drank too much, drank, spilled out there, here are my neighbors, olya never left them, she, there was a gazebo, they were sitting, walking, wait, wait, you just said, look, how much pain is in the eyes of this girl, tell me, please, why are you looking with such vehemence, we understand why you are looking, you want to connect, with your granddaughter, who is in italy, at the same time, your granddaughter lives in russia?
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your sister and your granddaughter, hello, hello, hello, hello tanya, i came to tell you about you, how you loved everyone around you, yes, grandma, everyone, well, only... and what , are you doing well, do you have a rich family or whatever you have, well? because of what material values did i refuse you, your words, i don't want my dear, i lived in st. petersburg, i worked at a good job, i have it was self-sufficient own life, i had a place to travel, i raised a child, i gave everything possible, i earned all the things, i don't need you solely because of your behavior, and i don't need you, because you took me like a rat and wrote me out of the apartment, made me a homeless person.
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how could you be written out of there then? i have no idea how it went around, how old were you at that time that you were written out? it was 2018, i worked in st. petersburg, lived in st. petersburg. honestly, that haunts me every year you know, i'm so tired of this family, this dirt from them, i always wanted to get rid of them, we all come from childhood, everything comes from there, and, as i understand it, if we go back to lyuba, then it was you... initially,
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no, here a little, maybe i expressed myself incorrectly, initially daria, with my grandmother, we were together, or rather still lived, wrote in wait for me, and i, too, being in st. petersburg, updated this information, re -uploaded information, so that maybe, well, they will see and start looking, yeah, and you think that your grandmother took you not because love from an orphanage, but because of money and because of support - from the state, the state, yes, i can say that even now, when, well, actually, they pay much more money for children, that work, in any case , to raise a child of this or that, when there are many of them, is the hardest, then you know, looking at your grandmother, looking at how she lives, well, listen, where are these golden roschita? where is all this? in
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any case, a person of age raised children, you can be offended, it is your right, absolutely, really, it's very hard, many things from childhood, they haunt you all your life, but the question is that you had a failure not with your grandmother, but with your mother, this woman from my point of view, i express my point of view, she...
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you are raising, you yourself, you are already cut off from your family, a child, children, of whom there is a slice, but leave all this behind, but you move forward, focus on your loved one, your own family, your own, that's what happened, tanya just doesn't tell that her grandmother kicked her out into the cold with the child when she came to kostya, you understand, can we sort this out further, what, no, do n't you remember how you kicked out the apartment? shame on you, shame on you, it was february, with my ex -husband, we had a little argument, probably, in this way she wanted to reunite us, this apartment, where daria lives now, a grandmother lived there, she dragged everything from the trash there, her room was piled up to the ceiling with trash bags from the trash, she kicked me out there, said, you have children's, but arrange this apartment, oh room and live there, well, accordingly. i arranged the room more or less and went to live
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there, what was wrong was such a list, and what right did i have to that apartment, that i kicked you out of there, so you did not let me live in your conditions, you are a grandmother, or do you not have something like that in your chest now, wait, grandmother, do you not have something like that in your chest, still, well, at least for something to say thank you to grandmother, who nevertheless took part , badly or well, but she did it.
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let's calm everything down, all the sisters are gathered, tanya, dasha, olga is watching us now in volgograd, lyubov mikhailovna, a few minutes of advertising separate you from the moment, you will see lyuba for the first time after 25 years, stay with us, favorite songs are playing in our studio, let's go! birthday, favorite music never gets old, real songs are playing, real feelings know no bounds, i'm sitting here and barely holding back
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we will never take them off, i promise, i promise, i promise, my husband and son have disappeared, i think she has disappeared too, i will not stay here, i cannot leave the podromu in trouble, we must go after them, can you shoot, i can, russian wife, premiere, only on the website in the application we watch. once again, good evening, we continue our international investigation into the case of the scandalous adoptive mother of nadezhda shchelgacheva, frat. let me remind you that in 1998 , with the participation of tatyana chaplin , lyubavoropakha was sent to italy, she was among 1260
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children whose fate is lost in europe, the english newspaper guardian believes that many children were sent for donor material, and today the main answer to the question of what happened to her. freddy's unprecedented criminal case barely fit into twenty-six volumes, six months of work by our journalists over 5.00 pages examined, all this gradually formed a goal, the links of which were taken beyond russia to europe, where it always seemed to everyone that the laws of value were above all else. children were actually taken out using forged documents, in which frankly confessed all those who did not even understand what scheme they were participating in, a scheme where children literally became an object for the turga. yes, all the guilty were punished, yes, we understood that under the auspices of happiness for orphans. mercantile cynicism inspired by the fear of the times was hidden, but everyone forgot about the main thing, about the fates of 1260 children who were still listed
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as missing. we searched for a long time for the trace of lyubogo ropakhi, we found him. according to italian documents, she became benedetta and constantine. we found her foster family in the hope reanimate the lost blood saint. my name is anna, i am a journalist. tell me how i can contact benedetta constantine. she has a biological family in russia, who... have been looking for her for 20 years, they never lost hope that maybe they would be reunited after so many years, after all, i have a daughter together, and if we have never responded, it is because i do not think it is right to contact different people, with documents and a photograph attached to them, i will not turn my daughter's life upside down because of some programs or other circumstances, i am a very well-mannered, polite guy, i would like to remain so, but they were clearly not ready for the fact that the volgograd past would again make itself known in the european present, we wrote and called both parents and friends, but the messages remained unanswered, it was also strange that in the social networks of benedetta herself, all the messages were read,
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perhaps not by her, so further searches were already underway in italy itself. we knew that we needed to look for a foster family that lived in the city of perugia. the fact that we are looking in the right place is confirmed by the postal address, which made it clear: benedetta lives right here, in this house, on the second floor. this was also confirmed by the residents of the house. hello, do you know who lives in the seventh apartment? we are looking for a girl, her name is benedetta constantine. i have been friends with bendetta for a long time and know her very well. she is a very beautiful girl and, as far as i know, she recently got married and no longer lives here. we come again and again and can not find them at home. only her parents are left in this apartment, whom she often visiting. why isn't the family home now? i don't know, they're on vacation, they could have gone away. sorry, i won't give her phone number, it's a violation of privacy, goodbye. the foster family was still silent, the windows of the apartment were curtained,
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none of the neighbors opened the door. the tension was growing in the editorial office itself, nerves reached the limit, because only one last door separated them from benedeta, who had been searched for 25 years. well, they stood there for a while, then moved away a little, went to get some water, drank, came back. yes, yes, on... please excuse the disturbance, this is not the first time we've visited your neighbors, but we can't find them at home, you don't know where they are, we're looking for a girl, benedetta constantine, do you know her?
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thank you very much, thank you, saverio poletto, was in touch with us from italy. tanya, are you ready, let's say, to reconcile with your sister, i don't think grandma can handle a seven-hour flight to italy to go there to meet lyuba? i have a baby, i won't be able to go there. yeah. yeah, of course. the main thing is to see her, how she lives, what she lives for, i'm not interested at all, you can, absolutely, i don't need her status, i don't need her money, even if she tells me personally, i don't want to know you, yes, i'm offended there or something else, i don't want you know when you reported her missing or to consider her dead, also wanted
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to see her then, this is also a lie, this is also a lie. tanya, tanya, let's start with the fact that this program, when i flew here, and why didn't you tell me, well wait, you don't have to interrupt, you asked a question, i told you, you're getting out of it, i don't want to hear you, you're getting out of it because you always live in your own vacuum, let's listen, i haven't said a single bad word to anyone here, because i'm not pursuing the idea of airing some dirty laundry.
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here is your little sister, who held you by your pants and called you a nanny, how do you think for her life in... your invasion of her life, will it be with a plus sign or a minus sign? i, no, now it is not about you, look how what happens, here it turns out that there is a pattern in the family, those who are unattainable, they can be idealized , spend a lot of energy in order to reunite with them, but the one who is nearby is bad, the one who is nearby, i will not accept him. the one who is nearby, i will destroy him, this happens on both sides, in fact. daria is really the most correct, she constantly tries not to go beyond the limits, well, you are smart, and you want
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that, but if really, to be honest, in your family there is no such concept as forgiveness, from and you, what do you think in general about the whole story of the fraternities, about this moment here, that the whole situation, in fact, in my humble opinion, probably comes from the older generation, that is, the older generation is always responsible for those people whom they bring into this world, that is, they they bring them up, they give them direction in life, and i think that in principle, grandma initially missed this whole story, grandma, please forgive me, but you missed this whole story, i don't blame you, because we don't get our heads chopped off twice, i think, i already said this, we all talk about this, that we need to on this, well, on this issue, just everything.
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one there under the new year, this girl, who is rushing between london, milan, everything, a model, will be happier, right here, than also in search of herself in europe today, so here is another question, who gives whom a lucky ticket today, you understand, it seems so to them now, yes, and those parents are hiding, because it is clear that they need to answer questions, to whom they brought money, to whom they gave bribes, and also to escape responsibility in time, because they understand that in this case and... she was not sent to the organs, yes, and the fate of the other 1259 children is in great question, where they are and live today, so history, of course, proves
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that blood relationship is not a guarantee love, if you have something to tell about madame frati and the other children, call our editorial office, as is known, no matter how hard we run, the past will always... catch up with us, wherever we are, goodbye, take care of yourselves and your loved ones. hello, dear friends, ladies and gentlemen. comrades, hello, your favorite program 60 minutes about the most important things is on air. so, the destruction of the ukrainian armed forces front in donbass is proceeding at a rapid pace. another one has been liberated in the pokrovsk direction.
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