you ran, the continuation of the exciting detective is already tonight on the russia tv channel. ekaterina fralova and natalia gubina. vesti. vesti follows the development of the main events in russia and abroad. stay with us. good afternoon everyone, in the fall of 2000, ryazan law enforcement agencies managed to prevent a monstrous crime that shocked the entire country: fifty-two-year-old nina tkacheva, together with her five-year-old grandson andrey, came to an amusement park, but instead of the carousels, the grandmother planned to sell her grandson for organs.

these images shocked all of russia in 2001. the operatives who were following nina tkacheva could not believe that a ryazan saleswoman cynically put the life of her five-year-old grandson up for auction. his fate would have been almost the same as that of the goods in the meat department. for spare parts, or what? i said, no, give me the document so that it would be for adoption. i had the main document and the money.

childhood for sale - a sensational revelation from all the participants in this case, how did the fate of that same andrei turn out, did he really forgive everyone who sold and betrayed him? it's already over more than 20 years, and this boy, whose tears touched the whole country in 2001, when these shots appeared, has grown up, and today andrei monkur is in our studio, he came to us from germany, good evening, tell me, how have you lived all these years, have you tried to erase it from your memory, or do you not remember? tried not

to think about what happened, yes, years have passed and up to today, in fact sometimes i remember, but i try not to remember sooner, and you forgave everyone who treated you like that, firstly, well, she died, nina died. and, probably not, i haven't forgiven, but to be honest, i have nothing in common with my blood relatives and with russia in general, as it seems to me, but here, today, if you ask yourself this question, why, i can't even imagine that someone would take and sell a child, like they did to me. it's

terrible, she did a terrible thing, but to your question, i'll probably never be able to forgive anyone who is connected with this in this situation, this is my life. our colleague , journalist arkady mamontov, then held own investigation and was even able to record on camera the chronology of all the events of that day in ryazan, i know you haven't seen. this documentary, let 's see how this whole criminal story began, and how the country saw that boy and sympathized with him. last fall in ryazan , a certain nina tkacheva was detained for trying to sell her own grandson's organs. the police were forced to take this step, since there was a real threat to the boy's life. i have in my hands the act of conducting an operational-search events under the name of kud.

test purchase, city of ryazan, i quote: senior operative of the department for combating organized crime of the ministry of internal affairs of the russian federation for the ryazan region ivanov at 14:20. 5 minutes began to conduct an operational-search event test purchase, during which the employee acted as a buyer and asked citizen tkacheva naa about the sale of her child. all meetings were recorded on magnetic tape, the quality is not very good, the music and street noise interfered, but the first phrases, which are barely audible, sound like this: there is a boy, he is 5 years old. he can be opened, it needs to be done as for adoption, we only take sebenovs, because the operation, well, that's

your business later, so go ahead, it suits you. and if he says, it means he will go somewhere else, i say, well, come on, i understand here, i didn't have such a direct conversation, i say, for spare parts or something, well , just somehow with laughter, and he laughed, smiled, i say, no, give me the document so that it would be for adoption, i still at first, maybe, i won't recognize, where does he live.

the money was returned to the bank, one of the sellers, baba nina's son sergei, was released on bail, his adult son was also arrested, he was also imprisoned, your adult son, yes, that deliberate conspiracy in advance, that the authorities, he served a month, you know him, he almost went through the cockerel, it's terrible what's happening, i was called here, i, the investigator , asked, let him go, this will ruin everything. his life and that, this blessing lived in a garter, a friend of his met a murderer there, he somehow he helped, here he is a month, already free, the second month, he has not come to me even once, no one has come to me, we owe, well 1.15, to live on the apartment, that is 1,400

rubles to pay for the apartment, we owe for the meat , they started to raid, they started to turn on the meters . they started to scare the girls, we have here, and how much is andryusha here then, andryusha, will they give some money for him, in case the deal had been successful, she was ready to offer the buyer other children, big and small, she was ready to start her own business, my own grandson was just a pilot project, let's do it with my boyfriend, then i 'll help you, i'll find it.

if for a spare part, he told me within 175, 175, and the installation, muscovites 45, now eight people are preparing, 23 years have passed since this documentary, everything looks so poignant that to this day, to be honest, yes, hatred for this woman, but...

and approximately all of this happened, it was in a square somewhere in russia, perhaps, yes, i remember a little, that here i am sitting in a car, crying and they give me a chocolate bar, to calm me down, but this is the first time i see this, i didn't know that she wanted to do this to me, sell me. this is even worse than i imagined. i am very happy, i am lucky, i understand that i managed to avoid this

terrible act. i don't think there is anything super special about me, i am not special because of this. but when i was in the orphanage, i knew that i would have to wait 2-3 years for new parents, but it had to happen, that i would be adopted. but i am 100% sure that i am the only child of orphanage. out of probably a hundred people, at least, that i was able to be adopted at that age, so i know that i was lucky, but i was also lucky not only that i am alive, that i was adopted, i am very grateful to my family, the new family, which gave me a chance to survive, to live on, but about your family and about life, we will talk later, but of course this film by arkady mamontov... and you, this image of an abandoned child, a boy, whom, yes, the whole country wants

to hug, to help, plus you become, let's say, a star for television people, who they start coming to the orphanage, yes, and they constantly film you, here are also shots, you are already in the orphanage, you are 5 years old, and to the heart-wrenching song from the movie, they even make a video about you. clip, who invented you, star country, it is published to me, it is valued where it is, i will leave the houses, i will go out beyond the pier, on a windy evening, the cries of birds will die down, i will notice the starry, the light from under the stairs, quietly towards me, quietly towards me,

a trusting one will come out, little drill, the most important thing is not to scare away the fairy tale, to the endless world, open the windows, my partner is rushing, it is read my sailboat, read my sailboat, a fabulous path, something comes to mind, do you recognize yourself in that boy we just saw? in fact, i recognize, i even remember, these trees.

yes, i was probably very sad about this, i asked a lot of questions, asked about her, let's listen to what you were telling me

then attention, grandma, where are you now, in moscow, and how did she end up here and there, she went, she simply left, yes, uncle said that she left, would you like to go to grandma, grandma is better, do you love her, right? are you waiting for her? but you none of the relatives visited.

my mother, my mother also had sons from her marriage, she had one son before they got back together from a previous marriage, that is, three children of her own in this new marriage, in which i have already joined them, but you look happy in these photos, i was happy, and i am happy. but this visit to russia, it seems to me, is important for you, as for understanding your roots, where i am from, yes, where i started my life, what i want to know about my past, yes, and to part with these fears, you have been in the country for several days already, yes

visited ryazan started my journey right from that square where it was.

started right here in this parking lot, my grandma told me that we were going to disneyland, i remember that, the policeman knew about it, he was a taxi driver, at that moment, he was undercover, and he knew about this operation, that my grandma wanted to sell my organs, and yes, they planned the whole operation to catch my grandma. i remember, it all happened here, right in this parking lot, where my grandma was arrested and yes, then i cried, i remember, the policeman gave me a chocolate bar, so that somehow calm me down, i was wondering why my grandma was arrested, so i cried, i didn't understand what was happening, i was so

scared, my aunt and uncle must have been somewhere nearby. oh yeah, this is the orphanage where i grew up, and this is the front door, this is definitely here, we used to clean these stairs so they could give us treats, this is the kitchen, i remember when

we were hungry, we always came here begging for food. in one big room, our teacher was a big sports fan and in the winter everyone had to run around in circles.

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the russian. revolution, the tables are moving, and where is my family, soon on rtr, once again, good evening for those who have just joined us, today we are discussing the history of the early 2000s, which shows that for some, money is more important than their own grandson. before the commercial, we met with that same andrey, it was him that his grandmother tried to sell in 2000 in ryazan. nina tkacheva perceived her grandson as a burden, but in one part the five-year-old boy turned into a gold mine way solve all family problems. that's what the grandmother thought, who was promised a profit of 90 thousand dollars if her grandson was taken apart for parts. the main documents for me were money. i won't find out where he lives, who he lives with. the grandmother

decided at a family council. together with the boy 's uncle sergei and her daughter-in-law larisa the idea of ​​​​selling her nephew. she said that it means she will do it anyway. andrey himself did not suspect anything, because the grandmother promised to take her grandson for a ride in disneyland, but instead of the rides, nina tkacheva got behind bars, and little andrei ended up in an orphanage, where he waited for his grandmother for a long time. do you love her? yes. it was from the headlines of the foreign press that andrei's new family learned of his fate, this criminal story thundered throughout the world, that's what the british daily telegraph wrote in 2001, pay attention, when nina tkacheva looked at her grandson andrei, she saw only one thing: money, 100,000 dollars, with this amount she would be able to buy herself an apartment, a car, start a new life, forgetting about her previous occupation, trading at the market. at the price that she

was going to pay for it, was the life of her... year-old grandson, she would sell him, then he would be killed with a lethal injection, the organs would be removed from the body, which would be sold for a lot of money on the european black market. andrey, i want to introduce you to the person who acted as a buyer in the fall of 2001, he is one of the operatives who saved your life, this is igor petrov, he is here today, let's meet him.

get rid of her own grandson in this way then there were already several meetings not only at the market, but also at home, where she yes discussed the conditions, well, i had to continue the work, because the information was confirmed, this citizen was looking hard for a source of income, and

a quick one at that, yeah. and 20,000 dollars just for adoption didn't suit her, so she needed a lot right away, she got it from certain sources. criminal, that there is such an opportunity to earn money, how did the information come to you, let's say, the operational staff of our unit of the department for combating organized crime, here received their own, it is normal from the source of information that there is a certain citizen, trading at the market in ryazan in the area of ​​the trading town to sell her own grandson for...

of course, this was the first condition, i had to see according to the legend, i will now use the terminology that i communicated with, because it was necessary to correspond to the image of that same evil

bandit who is engaged in the trade in human spare parts, so yes, i needed to see the goods, i had to make sure that it was in stock, that it was healthy, so, under... a certain agreement, i can't say for sure, but it was already dark, i came to this citizen's home in the private sector, so to see andrey, so there was a son, a daughter-in-law, i understand, of this citizen, she herself, they were all in the know, yeah, so they provided me with andryushka, well, i had to play on, as they say, according to the legend, i examined him. i looked at his throat, checked the lymph nodes there, felt his stomach, well , andryushka is great, well, he smiled, well, he didn't understand, he was told that he would go with me, with such an uncle in moscow for

the rides, had to bargain for a very long time, that is, i continued to work according to the legend, i bargained, 100,000 dollars for me... it was too big a sum, supposedly, therefore during the bargaining they agreed on 90,000 dollars, yeah, that's it, but they all, as i know, this son was a meat chopper at the market, the daughter-in-law also with meat, they had direct relations, yes, yes, yes, yeah, wait, it was a prosperous family in terms of the fact that there were no drug addicts, alcoholics, that is, they were completely sane, yes, people, that is, no, i won't make things up, there were no drug addicts there, the fact that the family there was, let's say, marginal, they drank and, that is, if i were present at such a moment, well, you can't tell by looking at it, that is, quite like, personally , she didn't drink anything, she was so

calculating, calculating, well, a trader, that's all i can say, at the inquiry, as i understand it, she immediately confessed, yes, when she was caught red-handed, no, no, this citizen denied her guilt to the very end, right up until the last court hearing, well, later on too she had such a chant, you could say, it was a cop setup, it was cop lawlessness, i just wanted the best for andrey, i wanted him to be adopted, because she was poor, she couldn't provide him with a future, that's it... she had, so to speak, a line of defense, but she didn't have a criminal past, you say, that's the kind of thing, she didn't have a past, but she had connections with crime, yeah, well, the market in those years, but tell me, what happened to the boy, you saw it today,

you didn't know how his fate turned out, right well, no, well, why, after all, it was due to the nature of my service, out of interest, i knew what happened next with andrey, i couldn’t visit him in the rybnovsky, so to speak, boarding school, as my colleagues there said, don’t you want to see your godson, well, there were further works, the same similar, so to speak, events, business trips, so, well, and then later i found out that they adopted him after all. where they say that at the family council they supported the grandmother’s idea, the spouses assure

that they could not influence nina tkacheva’s decision to sell five-year-old andryusha, since were in complete psychological dependence on her, i am responsible for andrey, i am a grandmother and i am responsible for everything myself, you rush about, what kind of character does she have, if she said it, then she will do it anyway, she will get her way. by the way, these people told us that they believe in the existence of an underground trade in children's organs in russia. i think that it exists, well, she couldn't have come up with it herself, my mother-in-law, she couldn't have guessed it herself, she worked in moscow, someone told her, made these inquiries, how so, she immediately took it all off. herself and here

everything happened so quickly, a buyer was found, and do you remember aunt larisa and uncle seryozha, well , no, i don’t remember them. it’s interesting that when andrei was in ryazan, our correspondent, alexander kazyavin contacted them with an offer to meet, they... refused, but as soon as andrei left, they called back with threats, and look what happened, attention, hello, hello, yes, once again, sorry, i didn’t understand who the extortionist sergei borisovich is, and hello, yes, i was looking for you, so, now tell me, on what basis did you come and search for me, climb into work, we are making a program. here is your nephew, you remember, yes, andrey, we

invite you to the program, to meet him, i have no time to go to your programs, you will come to your husband's work, i will see you , i will kill you, did you hear, so, i will not scare you, i will just turn away, got it, if i see you, you will see from here, yeah, well i get it, i survived the nineties, you survived the nineties, but are afraid to come to meet with your nephew? let's do it if you want, if that's how you are you're making threats, let me come to you right now, tell me your address, where you are, sbu, let us come, how long will it take us, and get going, i 'll kill you here now, my hands have been itching for a long time, we 've arrived at the address where andrey's uncle lives, he's ready to meet with us, at least that's what he told us, hello, right? sergey, we've arrived at your house, yeah

, how many people do you have, well, how many do you need, i don't know how many of you are in love, come on out, three, four, there are two of us, okay, yeah, you come out, of course, come on, we are waiting for you, well, we see sergey and his wife came out, hello, i'm going to smash you now, i'm going to turn off the camera, i'm going to smash you now, what are you doing?

explain then, why from here, why did andrey stay, you called us yourself, get out of here, you creature, you called us yourself, i hate you, you called us here, i called you, well... we saw everything with our own eyes, here the police officers arrived, hello, yes, we understood what happened to you, what are you doing, you called us here yourself, you called, you said that we arrived, what are you doing make fun of us, 24 years have passed, what do you want from us, what do you want, take yours away, don't you want to be with

andrey, stop, so that it would be clear, your husband was selling the child or he was selling it. did they accuse you? did they accuse us? are you crazy ? did they detain you with your grandmother? us, me? i don't know at all, i don't know anything. we have footage of you being detained, police officers, is that you? well, then explain what happened? nothing happened, i'm a total stranger, i'm a stranger, he has a mother, who gave birth, who abandoned him, who i sold it with my mother and my mother-in-law, what do you want from me? what did you explain, really, where? get out of here, and then explain it to us, it will be bad for you. goat, here is andrey, look, now no, i am watching, i am just watching and i want to say that you understand, people who received 3 years probation, yes, behave with impunity, yes, considering the state of this man, who works as a driver of the thirty- second minibus, yes, you sit down with such a man, you understand, eh, will you get to the place, yes, in

what state he gets out, that is still a question also to, to the leadership of this line, right? which allows such people to the helm and to the lives of people, you know, just now a colleague asked, while i was showing all this, yours should be given the position to the courage of your correspondent, here a colleague asks me, was it really like that back then, like that, yes, it was like that, just imagine, if now they behave like that, what happened in the 2000s, therefore, when some say, yes, law enforcement officers did not work there, this person can be called a hero, this one...

why did sergei himself and his wife call them, after all we received threats, that it was the local police officer, well, you were just there, well, i need to ask him, why in fact, call the police officers with these correspondents who are filming, well, come out here, let's talk here in a normal environment, where should we go, why, do you want him to kill them, who did he kill, so that? his husband was put in jail, tomorrow i'll go to the prosecutor's office to get a statement on the beating, my whole arm hurts, they hit me, tomorrow i 'll write everything down at the prosecutor's office, i won't let you in, okay, i'll tell you, it will be worse for you in these, you understand, i said, everything will be in prosecutor's office, everything will be written down, okay, i

'll hear you, that's it, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, well, how can you comment on the fact that they called you? it's unknown how it would end, let 's make a short commercial now, right after it andrey will have a surprise, we found his biological mother, and it also turned out that he still has brothers and sisters, all the meetings are ahead, don't switch, send me

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we continue our investigation of the high-profile arrest of grandmother nina tkacheva in ryazan in 2000. in the 2000s, she was ready to trade her grandson's life for $90,000 before the ad, we, together with andrey himself, the hero of the famous film arkadi. mamontov , visited ryazan, where we recalled all the events of that terrible day, and also met with law enforcement officers who worked under the cover of a buyer during the entire operation, saving andrey from certain death, the meeting took place here a few minutes ago. andrey, tell me, how do you feel andrey, did they tell me that my grandmother? they told me,

well, okay, she died, now you can see the footage, my grandmother's grave, we found where she was buried, i must say that the grave, of course, looks very unkempt, probably in her old age, after the story with you, the whole family turned away from her, we found out that she died in a nursing home, she spent 4 and a half years in prison, and after she... got out, she gave her only printed interview, this is what she said then: i miss my grandson, i watch him every evening at his photo and think about him, i hope his new parents will teach him russian , i'm afraid that andrey will forget his native language so i won't be able to communicate with him in the future, i love andrey and want to see him again, see him grow up, i don't want

him to forget me and i'm afraid that he will... only the bad things that people tell him about me, and not how much i loved him and wanted the best for him. i hope andrey will forgive me. andrey, by the way, when journalists came to tkacheva in the colony, they told her that they had arrived, the donors interview, she said that if they were late even for a minute, she would go on a hunger strike, maybe i should ask a question, and andrey, i want to ask you a question. looking at your story, i immediately remember the psychologists and their clients who say: you were not loved enough, but i think that there can be no talk of being unloved at all, in general, a person's attitude to the world is projected through his attitude to his parents, it turns out that everyone betrayed you, you said this: i want to come to russia to meet my fear,

tell me please, have you met your fear, of what? "to be honest, i haven't met my fear yet, if you know what i mean, and what are you most afraid of, in life, i'm afraid that i'll die alone, well yes, we all

die, as it were, alone with ourselves, but without support"? i was quite a difficult child, growing up was hard, i was wild, i was a child, i'm about 7 years old here in the photo, and i can already say that i'm 20-21 years old, from this period until i was a little over 20 it was difficult, but my parents had a strong loving heart,

they raised me right. and what made you cry right now? well, to be honest, i'm in shock, i just felt sick, honestly, you don't often come across such stories, i wanted to turn to kandreya anyway, to say that, well, of course, you are a russian person, a simple ryazan guy, including, yes, because personality is formed, well, in the first 7 years, everyone knows this, yes, an island, it is formed, the fact that you came here... the fact that you are not filled with hatred, yes, the fact that you look, you say, yes, grandma, well, yes, she died, then you don't have this anger, you don't have any left, this shows that you are a russian person, yes, that is, this nobility, let's say, the ability to forgive such things, this shows that you are russian, and, addressing you as

an englishman, i also want, well, to some extent, to ask for forgiveness. forgiveness, yes, excuse me, to ask for forgiveness, yes, but not all of us are such cannibals, i really want that in you in the future, in your children, yes, in your family not... this cannibalism is repeated, because we will think about it, i really want to think that in the nineties many people lost their minds, you know, people lived in the soviet union, yes, some were more honest, some less, but the fact that your grandmother lost her mind, there was probably something there, some kind of rot, which on this fertile soil gave rise to some kind of disputes, yes, but on the other hand, you know, for people material things became something super important, they were very... overvalued, and here, you know, what happened was that people lived in poverty, apparently, in some kind of, maybe, destitution, that's it blew her mind, here was an opportunity for this money, she got some kind of clouding,

you know, that is, and the fact that your uncle and aunt agreed there, but they simply had, to say, will, apparently, already flooded with alcohol, you know, and well, to some extent they also did not control themselves, this at least to some extent justifies, if possible, something to say that cannot be justified. no one can justify, listen, i did not grow up in a rich family, i had there, besides me there were other accounts, no no not said for the camera, but no one did not sell to a child in our village, in our settlement, so let's not smear that one person who did not have enough money there, she went crazy, no, it was just one person who came across, yes , thank you very much, andrey, that you really say that i am russian, because the value at that time of a child's life, it is now as if multiplied by but.

to say that we found your biological mother, she is here in moscow, will she find the strength in herself to repent before her son, what will svetlana say to the child from whom

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