anal a lot of national ideas are people of different professions of different ages of different religions of different nationalities gathered together with portraits of their great ancestors who either died on the fronts. e of the great patriotic war, or uh, either served in the rear, or later after the war also helped to restore. uh, our country with you is the tv people, of course, who make this regiment really immortal and , uh, and, of course, this regiment. e, he is not only immortal but also multi-million dollar, of course. now and dmitry gordon is in touch with us now. but dimitri didn't really tell me. where are you joining us from , but probably also. and you are now looking at the immortal regiment and probably from red square, as they tell me? yes, of course, there is now very crowded, we give you the floor. yes colleagues greetings. uh, the procession of the immortal

regiment continues. you see that a large number of people are walking behind our backs, right now they themselves are the author of the idea of ​​the immortal regiment. ah. let's find out from him how uh, survived these 2 years, and not full-time let's say, uh, not physical. ah, processions. tell us, please, hard experienced people miss you. it feels like people are bored. and with pleasure, even today in moscow, the weather is not very happy, but there are so many people, so many people , and i would like to see the photos. you see, if you look, when we follow each other in a column. and what do we see? we didn't see anything. you have an exemplary plate here. and i have a father. so the father is on camera. yes, i understand, but on the back width i wrote where he fought, what awards and this? when they go one after another, willy-nilly, they will

read it and maybe some kind of conversation will start. and maybe our grandfather also served there, and we would also like to see photos of our winners placed on the rear or side windows of the car from inside the cabin. this will also be additional, this is not an alternative to the six immortal regiment, but additionally, because the faces of the winners on this day, may 9, should accompany us everywhere. well, in moscow, this is a column of the immortal regiment that has been going on for several hours, and small towns. 15-20 minutes have passed there and that’s all, and she doesn’t look at us all day on cars, that this is still a technical moment, which we will definitely carry out such work very systematically, but, nevertheless, the very idea of ​​​​the immortal a shelf. today we see that she lives and speaks, despite the fact that we have been going online for 2 years. mat, uh, how do you think it is

to see all this number of people, the number of portraits. it's again. it's a river. it's in this. i have spots in the sixteenth year for the first time in moscow when was looked like i wanted. so, when a river of people is walking along red square, i wanted to put it in my hands, as if it were real. i also wanted to say something that many people are now asking me, and in 10-20-30 i will have six and the immortal regiment. i answer. and this, firstly, depends on ourselves, and secondly, someone can imagine now the immortal floor of victory day without a photograph without portraits of the winners, i can not imagine. i will not be in one format or another, they will always now be victory day well, who are you with today immortal regiment kirill latinichevanov? my father he was a gunner from the arch of a five-millimeter cannon, then he fought as a cannon commander on the second halt. in what front of the northwestern front he was seriously wounded

and in the forty-fourth year he lived a decent life, he died at the eighty-ninth year of his life, so from his portrait in general -it started. the procession of the winners the parade of the winners has now been called the immortal floor since the fifteenth year since the twelfth year. it has already passed into the rank of all-russian actions and takes place throughout the country during to all cities all over the country all over the world, if the planet was 115 countries in the nineteenth year this year, like going to 88 countries, but stop you know now the world is tense, but everyone remembers who is fascism? who defeated nazism and will still carry portraits of the winners thank you very much. hope it grows even more. this action your idea with us was kirillovich ivanov yes, but the author

of the idea of ​​the immortal regiment, but we are giving the word to dmitry the anthem. well, you hear what kind of power it is? i'm probably not mistaken that this is nothing less than powerful than the parade that was here today at 10:00 in the morning with multi-ton e-e with multi-ton guns with tanks with howitzers. with uh with a car, of course, yes, all 42 bouginries are here, but now there is really a people’s column passing along tverskaya, a stream of people who go from the dynamo metro station from leningradsky prospekt, then along tverskaya 7 km. and it would seem later. here almost an hour and a half after the start of the procession, the immortal regiment column. should have thinned out, but no, there is still no large flow of people here earlier i

i heard my colleagues paid attention to the fact that there are a lot of young people, and there are a lot of young people among the participants in the immortal sex action, but what attracted a lot of attention is the elderly, who, despite many difficulties, face objective circumstances. today we were able to come here in the center of moscow to defend 2 hours before the start of the immortal regiment action, and now these 7 km are going from the dynamy metro station to red square to honor the memory of their relatives, the memory of their ancestors, who gave their lives in the name of victory who fought in the name of the great victory who worked for their great victory and dmitry should not forget that we are now honoring the memory of not only those who died on the battlefields, but also those who worked in factories. we recalled the records of the ural plant, which during 4 years of the war one plant produced more tanks than all german enterprises combined. of course, there is almost the memory

of those who, during the great war, grew crops, delivered food, risking their lives, planted cities to lines front memory of those who lenin died in the siege and our heroic grandfathers too, of course, yes, dmitry, i just know that your relatives were engaged in the restoration of iron more expensive than railway ones, separately in the restoration of the railway battalion, sushkov, dmitry vasilyevich and e, he returned from the war after a year and a half after this victory happened. my grandfather rodakov vedra antonovich participated in hostilities. there, on the first day of the war, from june 22, forty-first , and until may 9, 45, on the t-34 tank, it reached berlin and that's just may 9, 45. he met in berlin and, of course, he was not here. but then he lasted quite a long life almost up to

90 years. let's now return to red square again and again give the floor to our correspondent e-correspondent dmitry gordon dima is in touch with us yes, thanks again for the floor given, indeed. here the procession of the immortal regiment continues next to us. right now i am either on the e-e tsunaev with a representative of the central headquarters of the immortal regiment russia, please tell us your emotions and impressions of what is happening again today after 2 years. we can walk through the streets of the capital in full-time format with portraits of our heroic ancestors synonymous with the month in a personal one in different accounts. our citizens began to write to me with a question. well, this year it will or not. and every month, when covid restrictions receded, every time there was a wave. well, there will be endless joy that , after all, this year everything worked out for us, that the disease basically receded. beware though. we anyway, we save it happens that she allows us to do

it, yes, and therefore it’s very cool that we succeeded. now, in almost all regions of our country, six immortal sex has already passed, in my opinion, right now. therefore, uh is coming in the orenburg region, i think that this year on may 9, it especially turned out that we kept the processions online, because it turned out to be very popular and many people added new portraits, so everything that was good was in the covid years. we didn't give up anything, it's all the same everything is. this is actually a big good, such a help for people who physically, probably, can no longer even come to pass in this ranks, and, but, who can certainly join, well, they what and there and there it works, because everything for many, this is a very special holiday for their family. today i, too, with portraits of my grandfathers, went through the whole war. this is my grandfather on the maternal side and on the side of the father, and

my grandfather was the only one who fought in the forty-first year, was a heroic signalman, liberated belarus, another grandfather. he has a hard fate. they were uh, they were captured by the nazis with their grandmother, they were in a work camp, and only at the beginning of the forty-fifth year they were released, grandfather managed to fight. he liberated dresden prague, so i'm very proud of him too. and now no longer with me, however. i am very glad, but today there is one more feature of the story. i have been a searcher for many years, leading the search movement in russia, and we have such a tradition that the immortal regiment is on the march. we also carry portraits of those fighter officers who the fates we set and here's one such fighter right today. i would like to remember that this is pilot alexei zelensky, a young guy who died at the age of 20, he was only a child in labor in the dnepropetrovsk region, his guys found this plane in the novgorod region. and that's when we

found his relatives in the seventeenth year. they refused him and said that the occupiers were not needed, and therefore the procession of the immortal regiment is young, this guy who fought with us died here, he will give his young life, he is walking along novgorodskaya there are few such stories. basically, the family is very happy. for the dead, therefore, we will still do everything, even those soldiers and officers who do not have relatives, who for some reason can not. they will still go with us, because like my grandfathers, they are still our family. thank you so much. a-a elena moiseevna tsunaeva, co-chairman of the central headquarters. immortal regiment of russia yes, happy holidays to you colleagues . thank you it was dmitry horn, he is watching the procession of the immortal regiment on red square, and we work in the hall. glory to the victory museum,

we tell everything that is happening now at the action of the immortal regiment and the historian mikhail yuryevich myagkov is with us. hmm yury, we continue the conversation with mikhail yuryevich, mikhailovich. right now , together with you, we saw during live broadcasts during the inclusion of our correspondents that people who are now walking along the central streets of moscow are chanting russia russia and what do you think the immortal regiment is hmm political action, it absolutely first of all arose. as from the thick the people of our people and uh, im continuing to stay that way. well, uh, i think it's very important that people take pictures of their relatives on their own, because it's really a piece of their soul. this is very important to note their modern today. and about them the life of their being. these are just the people who gave them this one, what kind of politics can be here, we are here, of course, the people's action

of our entire multinational people. wherever you were born. about what corner is our huge, eh vast er, the powers of our country. you wouldn't have been born. you always remember your relatives, and those people who gave you freedom protected you from nazism. and i said like this, that here is the immortal pilaf that we see, here are the faces that we see, yes, these are such beautiful faces. here you look at photographs not only here on the immortal shelf, but uh, here we are in the russian society. we have a special site dedicated to the images of the war, that is, a photograph of the war years from various archives, and our and our country and central and departmental, including the central archives of the ministry of defense, look at the faces of people on the faces of men on the faces of girls who, after all, were about a million nurses. woman they served during the great patriotic war in various positions. and, of course, first of all nurses. these are doctors, this is a pilot. these are snipers, and outstanding

snipers, who destroyed tens of hundreds, uh, enemy soldiers and no matter what profession we even took tankers, here maria oktyabrskaya was a tanker, and she had her own funds after the death of her husband. she assembled this tank shaft. he died heroically. unfortunately women pilots women pilots heavenly slug. yes, they mean, well, the regiment of the famous guards and how many sorties they made in one night, there were five sorties. can imagine even on a summer night, which is short they made it looks like, but the germans were very afraid. but when you bomb this germans who are not sleeping. here is this fascist. after all, even as a matter of fact, he is no longer in the mood to fight. this is also no no no imagine, that is, they did not let them sleep, they destroyed this enemy equipment. it is true that when they shot down a plane, they even gave it. some special rations and vacations, which was considered a great achievement, because it was difficult to shoot down he flew. here is the night why was it called? well at night? yes, it's definitely harder to live. he flew at

quiet speeds, he flew at low speed, he could not be immediately noticed, but by doing so he delivered exactly the exact blow, that is, he flew right around the german. let small but the bomb that destroyed, just this is enemy equipment, and we remember that there is. there was a case when it was just beginning, and the defense of leningrad, you see, what amazing feats the germans performed for 41 years, the month of august, on the approach of the city of neva, and now kolobanov is a senior lieutenant, and the earthly grigorievich kolobanov destroys one in one battle 22 enemy tanks. it just won't happen on the record of all time . none of the germans and allies did this , as he did, he just competently built an ambush, destroyed the first tank, destroyed the last one, and then shot the entire german column. it didn't take long for them to figure out where the car was shooting from. then they counted on his armor and on the kv kv-1 tank. this is our famous yellow tank at the beginning of the period of the great patriotic war more than 100

hits, and not a single one, but the actual penetration. there was no such strong armor through the armor and, of course, these heroes. they just defended, or leningrad defended moscow, and, in the end, they allowed us to go into contour entry already in the winter, and forty-first forty the second year here during the moscow battle. how much dirt was poured on zoya kosmodemyanskaya on 28 panfilov heroes? lately, let's say some of ours in quotation marks, like cultural ideas or who behaved, well, just amazing without being cultural. well, i don’t even want to remember the thing. i want to remember those people who, for example, are in one action movie. the same panfilovites. yes , the entire panfilov division fought heroically. well we know. that's it, these twenty-eight heroes who have become. well, a symbol for which a people. they fought for them, they fought for zoya kosmodemyanskaya. uh, and their feat. the same panfilovs were worth, well, let's say a feat, and

even several armies, how strong the moral strength was, how strong they became on the borders of moscow and did not let the enemy go further or there were podolsk cadets. the most tragic period from the moscow battle, when all the gallows of the volosts, the germans broke through the front, these cadets of the podolsk infantry and artillery school are thrown to the ilyinsky lines. they are standing there to death and destroy german tanks, dozens of german tanks, by the way, and above all, these were czech tanks. we remember that we should not forget that at that time the german army was supplied by all of europe and the eshko plant for the skoda cz, these famous czech factories, they supplied both engines and small arms, these tanks e 35-38t, which, in fact, then rushed to moscow and podolsk cadets destroyed them. how many how many years it was okay for people. someone even 17. here he went. this school is 17-18 years old. they are boys, but the germans, who saw how they fight

, thought, where did the russians get such soldiers from? we destroyed everyone in this environment. no, nothing like that in the environment stood to the end. here is ide of bryansk. why were these cadets detained by the germans, they were studying to be officers. they showed more than just heroism. they showed great skill, uh, talent and uh, which mihailovich developed more and more over time . uh. there is an opinion that in recent times we have begun to talk less about the horrors of war because of of this, and there is a kind of desensitization going on in the society , er. e hmm war. eh, and the war began to be perceived as a victory and a parade. do you agree with this opinion, that the sensitivity is drying up and, yes, we have. well, especially in europe, which forgets that europe was and a network of concentration camps, we remembered only six death camps for people who immediately destroyed the jewish population of our

prisoners of war. well, everyone who got there, who looked badly at the nazis, this and bor himself, this, of course, auschwitz auschwitz data three blinks and a whole network. indeed, these are thousands and thousands of camps and concentration camps, together with their branches, along with prisons, which during the war years 18 million people were destroyed. e of them, uh, here are 11 million. e, in fact. yes, it was destroyed almost immediately. and when we talk about it, you know the statistics, we are talking about numbers, and these millions of huge millions of victims. eh, the nazis must also remember each specific case - this is someone's life that was destroyed. here we are the rio exhibition recently organized, which is dedicated specifically to the death camp auschild. and so, when our children came there, our children. yes, foreigners too. they came and saw these mountains of small shoes, which were removed by the germans before they were sent to the

gas chamber, and then cremated to the germans of the pedantic nation. yes, everything came in handy for the nazis, both human hair and bones that were not ground, because that's about it. it’s even scary to say, not like these bandera animals. they also embedded the same thing from the swastika and red stars. on the bodies of our fighters who are still alive, who captured both civilians and children. we must not forget about this, because if we forget about it, it will happen again, they should be told this and from the project that exists today without a statute of limitations. it is precisely aimed at revealing documents, revealing the facts of this violence against the civilian population and such investigative cases. today our investigative committee is being opened regarding the tin slide in the novgorod region, where more than two and a half thousand people were killed and the rostov area, uh, zmeevskaya beam, and in many other places. it's 1,000 seats only about that in force hmm nazi criminals were punished. and uh, how they are being searched for in the modern world. we

will definitely talk to you again. now. let's again give the word to tatyana and after that we will return to the conversation. hundreds of thousands of people joined the immortal regiment in moscow today. film crew works on the roof of the hotel. national now she is joining our broadcast alexander greetings to you. again. tell us what the situation is now at the finish line. good afternoon, judging by the fact that i can see from here from the roof of the hotel to the finish line is still far away. the fact is that somewhere around 2 o'clock i will remind you that at 3:00 moscow time, the action immortal regiments in the capital began from 2:00 a.m. in the middle of tverskaya there was already a column of people with portraits of their loved ones, who remember and honor their memory flags. they now we see a large number of flags in the crowd. at the same time, uh, people were from two from

12:00. it was already possible to start taking part in the action. three of the metro stations are dynamo belorusskaya and mayakovskaya, free to exit so that everyone can climb to the surface from the metro and take part in this action and indeed the flow of people about the never-ending from the very beginning. maybe, unfortunately, a little faster now a little slower, because the number of people, of course, accumulates behind my the back is now just red square - this is the end point of the entire route, it only takes 7 km. throughout this path, there are field kitchens where people can eat, drink water and go further along this route. in addition, volunteers are also on duty along the entire road in case of any incidents, they are ready to lend a helping hand, in the literal sense of the word, and today there are no people stops first, of course. weather the fact is that during the time we worked here it was both sunny and rainy it’s quite rainy, but at the same time, the flow of

those wishing to take part in the action is endless people go to show portraits of their loved ones and, of course, at the same time they don’t go quietly and don’t chant two versions of the slogans either cheers or russia russia , thereby emphasizing the significance, but your participation in this action. and of course, the fact that today the end point of this route of this action is red square. before that, just a few hours ago at 10:00 am moscow time. therefore, the route, but there was the technique that took part in the military parade dedicated to the seventy-seventh anniversary of the victory of the great patriotic war, and in the morning here everything was already ready for this. let me remind you that the parade was supposed to consist of three parts. the first part of this foot calculations of only 11,000 military personnel took part in today 's victory parade 33 calculations, in addition, 131 units

of military equipment. that's just what they say to her, here on tverskaya from 6:00 in the morning already closer to 7:00 there was full readiness, there was a formation at the head of tradition was the legendary tank t-34. here we have seen from our vantage point. we really see me talking about this in every live broadcast . and how was the equipment, which is in reserve in case, again, of any incidents, but everything went absolutely smoothly. the only thing, again, the weather prevented the aviation part of the parade. unfortunately today did not take place, but for those who came here today for the action of the immortal regiment. the weather, of course, is not a hindrance and movement. here, i am now looking at the middle of tverskaya in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe monument to yuri dolgoruky behind my back is manezhnaya square people are walking. i think that my colleagues and i will still have something to talk about . colleagues, i give you the floor on poklonnaya gora. thanks to alexander, my colleague alexander suvorova was in direct contact, we are here commenting on the victory museum in the hall of fame on poklonnaya gora with the

historian mikhail yuryevich myaggov, yuri, we are passing the word mikhailich. uh, hmm, we promised we announced a conversation about finding nazi collaborators. tell us how this work is being done now, who is doing it and who is in power. uh, hmm nazi collaborators and themselves nazi criminals were punished from the second part of your question. yes, not all very much , unfortunately, not all, since many fled to the west. these rat trails, at the end of the war. they were running away. here, not only here are the main nazi bosses. well the nuremberg major was tried and executed. well, lower ranks, they managed to slip away. uh, someone submarines someone on foot. uh, somewhere on ships in the same latin america in european countries. well, accomplices, who also left after the german troops here and the baltic ones here and here, for example, there was vasyur, who was the one who participated in, uh, executions, uh, of the civilian population of the belarusian

village of khatyn, he was only later found or here. e, demyanyuk, who served as a punisher and guard in concentration camps, including sobibor. if we remember this sobibor death camp, there were so-called herbalists there, who are ukrainian nazis, who were trained by the guards with stretchers. e, and. uh, then they were guards of the concentration camp, and moreover, they were not only guarded, of course, did not kill. that is, for the slightest attempt not to commemorate followed. but this punishment is the death penalty, these herbalists also ended up in many ways in western europe, and, of course, such work continues. it is conducted in our investigation by the committee preserved archives archives. not only uh, that means government. well, the federal security service. here every surname is unconditional. it is necessary to check and it is possible that where? it's still in its warm bed somewhere western in europe in some stomping place or in the estate lies this unfinished one. who's been there for about 100 years, but he hopes to die. here by this warm bed. this should not be allowed, all cases must be identified and a person tried, because

these crimes have no statute of limitations. they have committed so many atrocities. not so much grief people brought what it should be unconditionally punishing. and uh, this work will continue and these documents will appear, here are testimonies it also has a speech, but here it is necessary to cooperate with special services, including our western, and today western specialists. we see what they are hiding, on the contrary, they were hiding the nazis even then , they are hiding the current nazis, who committed crimes in the donbass and uh, made a statement against our troops, and they will do it, because they have such a policy here, they are the product of evil , and this evil must be punished if she is not punished. it seems to me that today is our time, but after these events that we are now witnessing, nuremberg-2 is needed. that is, against the crimes that were committed nazis are now ukrainian nazis on our territory on the territory of the russian measure on the territory of donbass on the territory of ukraine they

must be unconditionally condemned and punished by law. right now , the term denocification is being used quite actively. and how did this happen after the second world war and, uh, how do you think it could be happening now, a wonderful question. we recently even had a whole round table. we are in a russian store that brought about sharing and militarization. uh europe and nazi germany above all and austria after world war ii. actually. identification took 30 years. we must not forget about this, that is, until the end of the sixties, but the sixties and seventies. yes, there were cases when the nazis, for example, western germany, too, they came to power. they were in government. this must be clearly exterminated, that is, identification implies, first of all, that there is not a single nazi. there should not be in the authorities and central and local, a special education system should be built school education institute education,

when a person must study in a normal textbook, which says that evil. and what is good, what is nazism, and who defeated him, and uh, there must be an educational process, of course. here we have a clearly prepared program today. this is not so much a school upbringing, but an upbringing of museums, an exhibition including, we all remember that these nazis were taken to the scene of their crimes, not only executed, but ordinary soldiers were taken to concentration camps, they were shown, what you did, many simply did not know from where, like you, we do not know. yes, they knew, of course they just hid it, you need to show it to people. what kind of evil brings? this is the nazi. and, of course, this system of education and upbringing. it must be based, among other things. in my opinion, as it was in germany with the nazis, germany is under severe coercion, that is, it should be in court, of course, everything is according to the law, but here what sentiments should not be towards those people who showed themselves in a brutal way in the process , it means the nazification of, let's say, ukraine, that is,

there should be coercion here, and uh, without it, nazi germany would also not be enough that the post of nazi germany succeeded, so this is a whole competition, peaceful, it requires unconditional time. let's put it this way, for the east of ukraine, the process of zombification of decification can take place there, in my opinion. this is my opinion there, and a few days there, or maybe a few weeks, because there was a connection with the russian world for a long time, uh, the center here is more complicated the west is special cases, but here, and we must spend a clear line a clear position. this is where the policy of a politician is needed, which should be analyzed by the demilitarization of ukraine yes, mikhail yuryevich, we will definitely continue the conversation, and now i will again give the floor to tatyana and our colleagues who work in the center of moscow a column of thousands of participants in the immortal regiment action in moscow is already on red square and again dmitry horn joins us from there dmitry tell us what mood and the participants already in the very final of such a long route, the mood is definitely in

everyone.