let's probably start, uh, with the fact that, uh, a logical survey shows that all the consequences of the economic sanctions and concerns about the ruble seem to be disappearing. why is this happening? today, another strengthening of the ruble 60 less than 62. life is getting better. well, this is the first flurry of such a first wave of western sanctions, which vladimir putin called an attempt to close in relation to the russian economy, of course, as we met it repelled, but it’s too early to relax, because this is an economic war. it's not just a sanction. it is not simple a crisis. it's all for the long haul. it will try to hit them in all the advanced industries of russia with the most modernized enterprise, the most integrated global world, so there is no reason to calm down. here but of course, the fact that we survived this one shows that the reserves of the economy

are much larger than the enemy expected. russia is different and yet, when you come to the store, you don't feel the strengthening of the ruble. why is this happening? for some reason the price is not going down. well two two things happened, first, uh, there was hype just in march, when the dollar was growing and the goods were running out for many and the manufacturers with its components were running out and the prices had grown. and unfortunately, many rushed to try to adjust it. uh, there it spurred the price increase even more, because our people know if something will be regulated, so soon there will be no goods at all, therefore, people in march. they bought two three times more than they needed for such real people. one could understand there were many uncertainties. they did it right. here people know how do, but prices have risen. right now, we are not asking you to do this. now everything is fine now, but prices have risen, and when sugar prices are regulated, they raise 150%, and then they win back down. yes, not completely, but to a large extent. yes, half

of the rising price has bounced back on many positions, so, uh, the first one is that they have already risen and it is very difficult to lower them, including stores, the second one has grown very much, not only. uh, the dollar exchange rate directly depends on the price, the goods are still the second. the product is important many importers with us up to 75% consumer goods, for example, this is an import, many prices have been raised, shipping to russia, that is, the west is punishing us by raising prices, the third thing is that logistics has grown a lot. well, for example, a truck from europe used to cost 2,000 euros, it is logical to get lucky often costs 8-10,000, because the price of gasoline has increased. there, gasoline costs up to 2 euros already in europe, the price of insurance has increased, and transport runs less, that is, there are a lot of reasons, not directly related to the course, but around it. ah, and yet , what needs to be done so that the prices are still more so more actively down, uh, descended and reacted. i understand all these difficulties are

objective, but sometimes it happens. well, let's be honest. sometimes, just some unscrupulous entrepreneurs simply take advantage of these rush demand and raise prices unreasonably. maybe the front needs to work more actively in production. i personally. yes, yes, we would not uh, how what projects entrepreneurs said. what conscientious saw a lot of unscrupulous entrepreneurs? there are no such all the inventions of some people who are engaged in control, who go around with checks, who scare the president with the fact that we have some unscrupulous things to do there, these were all inventions, yes, we and others. all of them are simple, so do not repeat nonsense for the good of other people's enemy propaganda will not. this is the second, and the objects are the situation. in reality, for example, goods are running out, they need to stretch, so that, uh, this product is enough, so it doesn’t raise prices, it’s not. and dishonesty is a way and they need to survive, they need to save jobs about it. well, how say no one thinks. of course, i am far

from the fact that in all appoint unscrupulous, but there are such entrepreneurs, there are such speculations. unfortunately in the markets. we know this very well, but we are not going to argue about it now, absolutely, and you are absolutely right. and now, by the way, we will also talk about this, because vladimir putin said that under the conditions of sanctions, but freedom of entrepreneurship will save us, and we talk about it quite a lot, but if this is freedom now and what needs to be done to she is appeared if it is not enough, well, firstly, it works great, it has become larger. it's true. that's thanks to these, so to speak. if there had been misfortune, there would have been no happiness for misfortune, a moratorium on verification has now been given, and it continues to operate at a protective degree. unfortunately, the moratorium will end in six months. well, just what happens next? yes, here we will hope that this motor will continue, for example, they removed the bankrupt. now the tax office cannot bankrupt an enterprise, but the truth is, it can, for example, collect money for collection exhibiting and also undertaking an enterprise

remains without money, so there are moments there, but still it became a little better. uh, so the pressure is down less checks come in. here, mmm, but of course, this is not the freedom that is needed in the conditions of such an economic war that the west is waging with us, but it is needed. come on, but what is missing specifically, so that inspection bodies do not come at all. yes, there will be some, you know how many requirements there are for, uh, enterprises. ur growth in consumer control lately, don't know 5.000 five thousand. you can read it at least remember it, but of course, just how much do you think the ministry of emergency situations has a requirement for firefighters. guess well, probably also 3 1/2 thousand. i thought you were at the ministry of labor now. how many requirements do you think enterprises have. offer, too, probably a few thousand. i understand 100.000. yeah, of them, there are 20 thousand for all industries and further industry. you can keep this in your head, at least keep it in your head, let alone do it , and they didn’t do it in order to do the job of having someone who

take the contract write a piece of paper that i'm all right. well, the inspector will take fines. this is why it is much possible to reduce regulation much further thresholds since the eleventh year the thresholds have not been raised, for example, there is a million rubles, there is 1.5 million rubles. according to many administrative criminal articles, inflation during this time amounted to more than one hundred percent. well, yes, 1.11 and the twenty- second two times a million. today we carry the bill in that let's raise these bars from what was at the head of steel, and the punishment is also not carrot. well still, these are different things, so a lot needs to be done, and our party and the parliament as a whole are doing this. there is another topic that , of course, concerns free enterprise in general and so on. and today andrei klishev said that, well, a tough statement. he said that import substitution has completely failed. this is his opinion, however, valentina matvienko once also said the day before that there are big problems and plans need to be changed. what is your opinion

on this matter. thank you very much, very good question. that, uh, not in the volume that we all expected, it's true, but i would not say that it is boiled. there is, one might say, in such a way that he is a failure, one might say, has passed, the first stage of impo-substitution by him-producing 1:0, and we are moving, by the way, the second, you know how zelensky can be said to surrender. and we can say the evacuation is carried out. yes, the question of assessing this or that basic issue of reality. here, for example, there, i used to work for enterprises, just recently faberlic was there a year ago, and for example. cook products yes, there you can even make components, but to go into chemistry, you have to make ingredients. this requires a large market. here we made one such approach, for example, there, in my opinion, maz is there for oil lamps and rose essences. and it turned out that our entire russian industry consumes. uh, there is a quarter of what we can do in the fields, there are pink, uh, there in the krasnodar territory in khadyzhensk,

you answer a quarter. what to do with the second price of what we would have done would differ 8 times from the price of the essence in france and six times in egypt is not competitive price. why such difference? well, apart from the volume of the market, it is clear that the larger the volume, the lower the market, the lower the price, this is understandable, therefore, earlier. eh, it was easier to buy many things, we used the west as our raw material influx, which is the position, therefore, and now we need to do it ourselves, it needs to be redone and so in many industries. you ca n't compete with global concerns. which have a different price, a different practice, and now we will compete, but today we still need to compete, because these concerns do not want to work with us for far-fetched political reasons to their own detriment. many of them, but cry, but leave because they are forced to, and this question, by the way, is also very interesting. uh, because how are we supposed to be here? so this morning we discussed the

issue from the studio. uh, which will now be considered in the state duma. it is a question of what to do with the assets of western companies that we have. well, in particular the tag, there and so on. here, uh, the composition of your party, ah, because ours western former partners. they just take everything from us. well, we do not want to become like some citizens. we need to do something to protect our interests. yes, i understand, yes from several aspects. first, let's not confuse pr and reality. more than 600 companies have said that they are leaving russia; in fact, less than 100 have left. that is, they know that they are not going to leave . moreover, for example, now russian companies are looking for raw materials, components in asia all over the world. there for these 3 months. very few deliveries have gone really new western companies without problems supply from europe all the raw materials that they need , moreover, they have their own factories in poland, the same poland that now has taken away all the property from fifty russian companies. this soil, they

are driving their factories to the same in russia ready products. yeah, so no, western companies are not going anywhere. they know how they say goodbye in a joke and don't leave. that's why it's needed here. well , maybe he still says goodbye before leaving, and finally, if they leave, there will be nothing terrible. yes, there are complex industries there, yes, machine building and such technological ones, there are also the same computers, but nothing terrible will happen in consumer goods. over the years of the market economy, we have grown a lot of players who, in terms of quality, cost goods. no worse somewhere, even better than the west, so don't worry. previously, it was not possible to stand on the shelf in stores, there was no money for advertising, and so on. here, uh. no, well, we won’t be left without a product, but ofiget well, you, as a manufacturer, uh, are a representative of this class of entrepreneurs, because production is much more difficult. entrepreneurs who are engaged in trade will forgive me there. it's just that there is a huge difference, two big ones, as they say in odessa. yes, we also have a large laboratory there, which was far away, and i just mean that uh, uh,

the departure of western companies. he really really helps. uh, our companies grow faster. and than if they were present here, and we would have been more actively developing the same resolution, the market was very dense. uh, global companies spend, there multi-billion dollar advertising budgets. well, huge huge perks have basically. these were not our comments. unfortunately, huge benefits and such a leverage on retail chains. they are in the best places. in trade networks. they have a distribution system for retail chains. now. if indeed they will leave. but the demand for national capital by national producers will be much higher, it will be a little less dense, there will be a little room for internal expansion on the market. ah, alexey is different and yet, nevertheless less now there are heated debates among colleagues in other programs on television. we look at all of them perfectly and understand that there are a lot of such

extreme positions, someone says, let's revive the state planning commission. and someone says it will kill the economy. and so on. it is clear that the truth, as usual, lies in the middle. here is the emergence of some kind of, let's say, a plan, of course, at someone's coordinating body at the government level, which would direct the activities of entrepreneurial enterprises more actively. how do you think, it needs to be done. i think yes, moreover, it should be some kind of inter-party such, perhaps even inter-industry. uh, rooting center. what are here uh? are there any advantages? yes, we see that, of course, there is no state plan, first of all, it is impossible. secondly, it is not needed, because price regulation will lead. it was from tsarist russia on the eve of the revolution, it was in the soviet union price regulation regulation of production volumes - it 's simple, well, so to speak, uh, this is deficit this is the black market. this is a trade from under the floor. this there is no recipe for this, so there is no need

to choose between the middle if you need to choose a market economy, but market does not mean spontaneous does not mean there is some kind of invisible hand of the market. no, market - this means that people compete companies compete, but there is support. such healthy protectionism, for example, mintrock, the idea of ​​protectionism in relation to the national capital of social companies of national producers is supported further now by the question how exactly this coordination is carried out, for example, sectoral councils at the ministries, but so far this is, of course, scattered management. you need one like this, during the war there was a gkos of the defense committee. where all the information was collected and to make a quick decision now, such a body is also needed, but at the same time, i see that the government. unfortunately, nonetheless. i hope that for now this is just a crisis, just a temporary situation, but this situation is for a very long time this is a long economic war russia that it touched on a very big topic. it's a pity. we have so much time, but we still have a little. why because right? well, let's be honest part of uh,

quite uh, frankly. or rather, we are all the time, to be honest, but to be frank, after all, parts or you are part of the business, including the one you represent your party represents in the state duma, and hopefully, let’s keep quiet for a little while. and what to do? let's not especially depict violent people's activity, and that's it, then it will return, we have already agreed 100 times and now you are talking again, huh? and so this time, it seems to me that such a strategy will not work. you already said partially. look at the time in april to the sides in beregovoy in the negotiation process, very close. yes, there were things that were in question for both moscow and kiev, but we saw the readiness to resolve these issues, then we saw the biden, then the barrel, that is, the states of europe said no no, let it all be decided on the battlefields. yes, the statement was too frank, even the west

switched from just pressure from some kind of sanctions to a war for victory to the destruction of russia as subjects, as a sovereign state, therefore, well, nothing will resolve by itself. everyone is already seeing this. uh, except for those who are afraid to see it, who do not want to see it, but will certainly demand it. uh, the existing uh situation that now exists and the adjustment of our social life. and what do you think, here, well, i would say so, here is ultra capitalism. no matter how you probably disagree with me, which we have built in recent years. but i think it needs to be moved to the social side somewhere. i'm not saying we rest socialism ussr 2.0 there i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about what uh, this social policy and the government is doing. this has been very active lately, but it seems to me that there is no need here, more articulation, perhaps, some kind, so that people can see that now they will not squeeze 25 out of them, and then juice and so on, but they will demand to work well . this is

understandable, any economy requires. how fast do you think in this direction? how far can we go, because on the other hand this is social dependency, they are willing to work. well we saw it in the late soviet union leveling and all. the rest is how to find a balance here. there are three growths on the economy. the first is such an oligarchic, and such a rental privatization capitalism, left from the spruce times, the second is hospitalism, which arose later . and the third is such an administrative one. i would say capitalism. here we have three growths on a healthy economy. if some of our parties, that is, well, people who built their own companies, created from scratch. yes, they didn’t steal anything like that, they didn’t quietly privatize it. these are there are many more people in the country. these people exist. uh, a good golden iphone and, therefore, only those of them that make statements offensive towards the russian people. they are known, but normal people are not known by normal people, that is, modest affairs are busy. they chat. here is the first one. the second of these three outgrowths and administrative is such a

power and state such. that's right, the corporate and orligraphic card, of course, quietly push back. actually in many ways. e. our president does not speak, but it is clear that the russia that was before february 24 had no chance in the world, but they were slowly losing ground and squeezed out from everywhere. we were more and more the periphery of the western world, in russia, which is now shimmering, but emerging. she has a chance to become the second world of the alternative again, but for this, of course, it is strange even to be more solidary. yes, where in the booty yes , everyone has a share of our common victory. e. those who participated in this struggle? yes, this is what is called ordinary people, these are people who work. yes, not only people administrative, there are great alexei gennadievich , i know, maybe i will simplify for our viewers. it seems to me that there is a position, and

such an economic investment program is just for people. i need to start paying more for some of their work. i definitely have a great sympathy, moreover, as a former entrepreneur. the former does not exist. it is you who temporarily perform the deputy of the state duma, uh, handed over your management assets. yes, and so i understand correctly, therefore, it would not happen. and you as an entrepreneur. say that people should be paid more, of course, because here faber has a salary of 80,000 rubles. in the moscow part of the company 100,000 rubles. average is ok. in production, people receive 60,000 rubles there. those who have a simple job, there are 80-100,000 rubles. engineers get it okay, because when you're competitive, you make such an added value. you can easily pay big salaries out of this people who work well. they better call the goods than constantly invite people there while they work. he left. yes they are people when people treat like this they have something will get you. this connection is also a tradition , the soviet yes, therefore, here, but for all

entrepreneurs who achieve something and normally pay their people. uh, alekseevich, and yet it is clear that no one is calling for this. tomorrow everyone's wages will be tripled. no, not about that. we are talking about a process that should be natural, but in order not to undermine macroeconomic stability. it's obviously necessary to lower the lizer. how to do it? that's faster here are a lot of taxes on wages, except for income a small tax, which, by the way, people who receive a salary do not yet see a tax on the wage fund. so, probably, with fear of 30%. there is all this on top, then vat, these taxes must be reduced. here to go find it's a small fraction of the economy. we have for everything a minimum of production for all manufacturing companies, but in principle for all other sectors of the economy, for example, it was now that vat taxes were removed for , uh, the so-called choriki for restaurants. why for a hotel for tourism, because restaurants have there is simply no way to pay both wages and taxes

on wages, at least vat . because they can't give it, and earlier taxes were high, but the collection rate was poor, but for the last 5 years we have had very good vat collection rate, which is excellent. payroll taxes are collected very well. maybe it's time to reduce proceeding collect before taxes were taken from a certain narrow stratum, they were high. well, those who could conditionally be caught now uh and uh the prime minister, who was a tax minister, and the head made such a unique system that really helps to cover everyone, so, as it were. eh, you're probably right, but still. do you think your party will come up with a more specific initiative about this, firstly, it is possible to give the highest initiative to short-change such initiatives throughout the ministry of finance. he just said it couldn't be done. we are now counting the government, we are going back in order to calculate these models with some more centers like that, but then

is in progress in progress process in progress. well, it's like this, it can also be for a month. god for years is not necessary for years years of years we just don't have to argue. yes, thank you alexey gennadievich thank you very much.

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