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the correct police investigation bureau, they find out the circumstances of what happened in the north of the dpr, the active phase of the release of the red lemon began. this will accelerate the defeat of the apu grouping in the donbass the allied force was freed from ukrainian militants. for about half of the city, meanwhile, more and more ukrainian units are complaining about unbearable conditions and criminal orders from officers of the armed forces of ukraine. here, the appeal of the military of the fourteenth brigade of ukraine to zelensky requires the removal of these from the front line, morale is low. need to heal, we receive such commands that we physically cannot fulfill, because they are criminal, we no longer have anyone to go with. who is the three hundredth, who is the two hundredth, it is necessary for someone to hear us, to support us. that is, we succeeded. good afternoon. i am kirill vyshovsky.
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we continue to talk about important events taking place in the post-soviet space of the territory, which, together with russia, still makes up 1/6 of the land today. our guest is an unusual interlocutor writer. zakhar ticketin, zakhar good afternoon russian political and public figure, writer, philologist, publicist, author of more than 30 books, laureate, many awards, party chairman, just russia in 2014, provides humanitarian assistance to the donbass at the beginning of the conflict , traveled to the territory of the republics many times, organizing humanitarian mission and covering the ongoing events from 2016 to 2018, he formed his own battalion in the dpr, which performed combat missions directly on the front line for february 28 , 2022 is under personal eu sanctions may i start? a conversation with a quote with your quote 8 years we appealed to the
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common sense of europe, the us and the ukrainian authorities. god knows we wanted to solve all these issues of the world, but we were refused and left no choice. and now we are still dragging this stone to the top. so you wrote his special military operation in ukraine, we are with this rock, where now close to the top far to the top on the top we would uh hmm closer to the top than at the very beginning of the path, but not at the top yet and this rock is uh -e with known circumstances, of course, can roll back. i believe that this will not happen. i believe that we will bring this matter to an end, but uh, we are now at the point where its inhabitants began to leave the azov. one or two more such events are needed for this break, when the stone reaches the top and
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rolls down already, this break is, uh, maybe. uh, donetsk donetsk lugansk cauldron and something like kharkov, let's say, yes, this will already be clear already. are we, we switched to mode victories i, uh, follow your monologues on the internet, while reading the block, i have the feeling that you very often argue with that part of, uh, the intelligentsia, the creative class there, who are categorically against a special military operation. uh, and in general they repent for being russian. uh, let me ask them the main question then. and why did a special military operation in ukraine begin ? well, i probably made a small correction. i'm not arguing, i'm not arguing, because, well, uh, for me, this question was already closed quite a long time ago after the death of a number of my comrades there, after the
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death of arsen motorola pavlov alexander vladimirovich zakharchenko well, there are a number of my friends there, and it finally became clear to me that this audience is diverse. uh, the deaths of the people dearest to me are a celebration. so i’m not politicizing with them anymore, i’m arguing with that part of both the establishment and the russian political elite who still want to see these people these beliefs as components, but of our national policy and cultural policy, including me i turn questions to them. are you really willing to observe these people with their beliefs, not even the people of these beliefs. as one of uh, this part of the mosaic uh of russian complexity, because i myself am definitely in culture, there are liberal democrats, but there are things that, well, for me, it’s impossible to overcome, that is, well, i am, if a person is at my funeral laughs and drinks. uh, how like happiness for the holiday? well, that is, what can we talk
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about for them here is all that my relatives are donetsk luhansk there, and now kherson zaporizhzhya is not family for them. they are strangers to them, and those are their own for them, here they stood up in a vase, they are their own for them. and what is it for? war here she is just going for this relatives. she, uh, these are the people that you are talking about, they were lying, they say that we are in the 21st century and in this 21st century. eh, questions like that are not resolved that way. so they put it up like this and hmm they appeal there to international law there to humanism and to all other concepts that they easily attract, if they want to ignore it, and i live in the context of the whole russian national history, where in kiev there is a stone , from here there went the land, russian where the princes, where the author of the word about igor's regiment is either from chernigov , or from volyn, or from a motor-car, or from pskov, and this is my space, it's just mine space. they are not because it was once my space. and this space is always. well
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, i mean, i don't know how to explain it scientifically, but for me, the difference between the tenth century , the seventeenth century and the twentieth century, the xx century. there is no 23. this is the space of russia. that's why, uh, for- sunken for the dead for the memory of the monuments for the mouth. that's for everything. this is a war going on, and here even i have no doubts about this reflection at all, for what, understand? but with whom, after all, uh, both ukrainians and europeans. they talk about what kind of nazism there are no camps, the president of the jews, and in fact, chancellor schultz did not see any genocide. so who are we fighting with? well, you know, sometimes we are ourselves here , but we drive it, but in a certain way it makes sense. trap too much by appealing. here, to him, nazi practices to swastikas there are various there and to everything else, that is, of course, this is what it is. well, i
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even know at one time, well, i spent a long time in the donbass and served there and dealt with prisoners, and i was there. there, this segment is always a segment, there were people who were there with all this hitlerite all this tinsel in their heads. uh, here, but there were never too many of them and, to be honest, i was even puzzled when they began to come in large quantities now. mm captive calls, how they are all decorated with vostons. and how many of my comrades are colleagues there, how much would she they didn’t take a variety of things, there were former barracks, caches and everything else where broken units lived. there is really too much neo-nazi literature and all that stuff. but, well, let's say that, here, we will knock out quickly enough. oh, please, i'm sorry. but this entire most aggressive motivated part, in his own national battalions, is there. yes, these are all of his nazis. we understand that they are finite and they are there, well, experts say that there are two or three five or seven
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percent. different there from dnepropetrovsk from krivoy rog terror baron pensioners there, yes, but they are not neo-nazis, zao reception. in the sense of the word. yes, and here we drive ourselves a little like this, they did not erect monuments to bandera, although there are many of them there, yes. they did not learn from the history books about bandera. they studied there according to soviet textbooks. yes, those people are enough for me, well, how would there be such a thing as vyrus, now, if the russians, and there are people, uh, out of the rules of the ore, denying it. well, there they are conditional kurb or vlasov at all times there were those who entered into an agreement with the polovtsy with the horde and slaughtered their own there. yes, for me, there are people that you were born from a small-born and ukrainian tribe. well, from the russian tribe he himself is wide. thoughts, that is, they are not ukrainians, these are mazepins, this is a petulance, and i appeal to real little russians to the real fate of this territory, where russian ukrainians are intertwined. uh, the odessa literary schools are greeks, there are serbs there,
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and all the rest, and they were in the context of the great vast wonderful russian national history, that's what we will inherit the national basis. yes, she will buy. well, how would you hum your jar says that this is her vyshyvanka. and this is my vyshyvanka, my vyshyvanka is me. i’m talking about a grandmother with ukraine there, i, uh, my roots are all don, that is, either i myself am the same, or i’m the closest neighbor there, but ukrainians lived on the don, we lived on the dnieper well , that is, this is our common space, and in in this sense, nazism is not nazism. it's simple. well, this is the current name, but the disease that sometimes hurts if you immerse yourself in the ukrainian media space or social networks, it seems that there is nothing but hatred. neither in kherson nor in melitopol there is not in zaporozhye waiting for us. you often go there. now it's really, and of course not, uh, you know now on social networks. today,
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literally in the morning, here, uh, i read and they write there that, like, here they are, like they changed their shoes. they will change back there. this one is not necessary. it is to trust him so, firstly, uh, people, my dear russian dear russians, and man is a creature social, if he gets into a certain environment, but a person just needs to raise children there, go to work and live. eh, to grow bread there, but to talk about children in the head and that's it. the rest of the other friends drink beer there. yes, of course, he falls into some kind of environment and is influenced by this environment and demand from people. that's what they have to defend to the last drop of blood, there is a monument to lenin or there, pushkin there, yes, but and you can demand this only looking back at the events, uh, the restructuring of democratization in russia, well, that's fine. with you they saved the soviet union very much. you and i fought against yeltsin and all this creature that ruled the country there, but kozyrev’s various historical ones are understandable, so the ukrainians are required that they sort of
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defeated bandera badly there, yes, and how they could vote. uh, they believed zelensky, who promised peace, more or less preservation there. there, as it were, the status of the russian language and russian russian culture. well, and so on tried somehow here in these circumstances somehow themselves. after, of course, one should not discount propaganda to believe that if we hit propaganda, we would understand everything, we would never have television, that really, we didn’t guess how everything really is. well, of course, of course, any of us in solitary confinement, means to beat something like that on our heads there, you just start it involuntarily, of course, now, so that everyone understands perfectly well that all these characters who were sitting on russian television on a talk show that it was a clockwork dolls there were real ukrainian patriots, who are now buying secondary defense from us, ready to fight against us and expounded the most radical oppositional point of view of ukraine, and the russian people have always had the opportunity to sit and compare the opinion of mikheev, the old soloviev and sticky with the opinion. here are
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all these various kovtuns and yennin of all kinds of anu. ukraine did not have such an opportunity, but who could, yes, they did not call me on the air and did not call prokhanov but, but we called, therefore, people had the opportunity, they did not have the opportunity, it is necessary to discount it. but, and the degree that the speed with which people in kherson in zaporozhye there, the liberated territories of the kharkiv luhansk donetsk regions reboot their consciousness, it really is. well, even i was surprised. in general, i always guessed that this work would be crowned with success. yes, yes, they did not meet with flowers, but already there later. there's been magic for a month and a half, guys. they work there. there they began to gather there, the asset began to be located by the administration of the is. of the local people who killed, between by the way, from time to time or they either tried to kill or they killed, let's say there were two murders on the territory of the kherson republic, nevertheless there, yes, and then already the ninth of may 1. may 9 holidays everything comes out 300-500 1.3 thousand people, and then
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russia has not yet announced that she is taking kherson forever. well, that is, he came there, turchak said something, but in general, russia has not yet reported about it. if she reports, i assure you, she hopefully reports, then on, may 9, 23. there will already be 100,000 people. here they come out and they're just the same the heirs of the victory, like you and me, are exactly the same heirs, they have, uh, all rights, like the russian people. it’s just that we allowed them to be separated from their own country some time ago. therefore, i assure you that exactly the same thing will happen, and even more so in nikolaev , because, well, hide in places. we worked, of course, at the right time there, when i worked with zakharchenko with these territories. we had our counterparties there, people who caused the situation to us. kherson was the weakest against this background of the territory. that is, there there about russian moods were always so forked. well, there was something there, there was some kind of segment, but in general, of course, the resistance is nikolaev odessa. this is much
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more serious kharkov there? yes, these territories, well, even in kherson, everything is fine in 2 months, everything is more or less in order, still there , uh, russian television is holding for half a year and it will be possible to hold the most transparent referendum in the world, just with all european observers they will say, well never mind, but i don't think lost, in general, everything ukraine does not consider losses. with what feeling do the fighters of the people's militia of donbass go into battle? the owners of various ultra-patriotic telegram channels about russians are much more radical than people. uh, directly on the front line. that 's right, that's who i know, they're sitting there in moscow they just beat, break, torture, hang. there, as it were, don’t spare anyone, and, uh, don’t take them on there, yes, i'll explain. why did many of the luhansk and donetsk militias known to me be
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different. why, well, here my comrade died now and rodion graffins. but we served together for a long time, he is, well, a militia hero. e, he was repeatedly awarded from the village of lugansk, which was under ukraine. so her mother remained there. well, she stayed there, the school itself, odnoklassniki and all the rest of the others, everything was there. they all stayed there. yes, here it is and when they started there, we have blogs there, like there, a there is noise. they are zombies there, everything else is all there, they are filtering l- i don’t believe anyone there, then there was still such a story, such a poetess. and yevgeny belchenko, who at first collected everything, money, there was a national budget, and then he searched for it, and it 's all a nightmare, and he came to russia. and to russia, like, get out of here. you're like, you would never forgive me and so we sat there with the count, discussed with the spring itself the evidence of heaven, well, with the other guys. he says, well, well, but how is it, and i will now come to my luhansk page, and i have there the girls lived there with vushniks there, and someone
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even managed to get married there, yes, well, in general, her administration somehow worked there. at the very least, teachers left the school to teach. i'm going to shoot everyone, or what, there? well, what am i going to do with them ? well, this is my trees village. well, who will be punished? maybe someone will be jailed. well, i won’t do anything with them, because it’s my own, and there are their own. are they all born in luhansk or something, are there many of them from other regions because of zaporozhye from anywhere? not with them there were people left. of course, they have complex feelings for them, but uh, since they are healthy people. what fights, in fact, only liberals think that the sick are fighting, in fact, only healthy people can fight for a long time, because the sick do not start fighting with the sick, either they are suicidal with such a word, either they start looking for death, or they they all can't stand it. they flee from there, and acquaintances are at war. healthy in this sense. everything is fine with them. this is total terror. nobody ever does this discusses. yes, there is, of course, an element that, for example, they are not very willing to spare. uh, those whom they took directly in
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battle as prisoners. that's who they just now drove somewhere into a corner, and they got caught there. well, they may not stand on ceremony there. but everything that concerns this rebooted ukraine is there and that's it. everything else. they are already there. well, that is, well, this is a family, this is their family, somehow they know that they will have to live here with this they will have to work. and their mood, of course, who certainly has a normal mood, if at least he is there, they have armored vehicles, a thermal imager, sights there and everything else. that mood is generally the most wonderful. i have never seen such a good mood among the luhansk and donetsk ones, but they will simply attack. that's it, just great. finally, well, that is, they have been talking about this for 8 years and have already stopped even seeing it, that once, it turns out that the question has been raised that we will go out on the border of the regions, or maybe and then it's just what is called realization dreams and people, of course, are on the rise. it’s good if with ukraine it’s more or less, at least now it seems that it’s clear what’s going on in a world where
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an attempt to abolish russian culture has become simple, well , the goal itself is generally, perhaps everything is very fast , firstly, everything is fast will pass, firstly, we have already experienced this. i personally experienced this as a participant, and then it was not called a special operation of the windows of a terrorist operation. in the caucasus, it also lasted 8 years, and when i first arrived at the actual with my first translated book about the war in chechnya pathology. i came to france in 2005. that is already passed actually. 5 years after the counter-tatter operation and then it did not stop yet. this is the look of a frenchman, that, like, what you did, you destroyed everything, the entire chechen people. you are just there, here are the animals. putin is just a new hitler. but he set it right before my eyes, that is, 2005 was the sixth and seventh year in 2-3 years. it was all levelled. that's just yes, no degrees. that is, they simply forgot some kind of another war, firstly, a person
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does not think about anything for a long time, thirdly, uh, the most uh, aggressive and unhealthy part, uh, representatives of the caucasus are not necessarily chechens, there are others from the nationality. they came to france, settled whole regions there and foolishly. they gave whole blocks there. well, they didn’t specifically show what kind of freedom fighters they are. and it's the french, of course, they don't say anything about it out loud, but they have shifted their understanding of these events. there they are. well, yes, there, like, okay, like with you with the russians. all clear. well, another story began. they just gave up on this on this . moreover, there, of course, it was not difficult to talk either, because they begin to ask there, whose i am talking about you, and you and your algerian are talking to you. you have all the shelves stacked with books about the annulment of politkovskaya. it's just that everything is laid out simply about russian atrocities. and that's why no book sent fat. what did you do there ? have you crushed people there? a million people? you made at least one movie about it. well, where? show me a movie, some kind of court there. you passed in general about your genocide there. well, you don't. there you are in in many colonies, he
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screwed up there, yes, where. just don’t fit in. well, here right away there are such types that here, so they understand everything perfectly. it was in chechnya in the south, slavia was there, there in russia there would have been afghanistan. uh, the south ossetian abkhazian conflict there, well, everything is so strong, well, this periodically arises for the first time, or what? russia was a gendarme europe in the nineteenth century also wanted to cancel then, right? poland was divided , sawed there, incessantly, there were czechoslovaks, hungary well, this year is passing. look, everything is moving very quickly with people. i assure you that some other one will start there. god forgive me, the war is in another place, that's all, and slowly the russian again sings back. and it will shift business very quickly. in addition, who is gas oil there is all this. a special military operation is changing and, of course, will change further ukraine is changing russia and how will the post-soviet the space, together with russia, will seriously
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change, because well, here is one of the things that you and i have long understood, but people, but in russia, yes, and in europe, too, they often did not fully understand. here they always appealed. there to the european freedoms to the european. sovereign this here in general to all these things that supposedly exist there, but we supposedly don’t. and we, as it were, seriously assured that there is europe, there are former republics of the soviet union , there are some multicolors of various countries. they give there. here is a garland such shines in different colors. all this turned out to be garbage, because there is no multicolor. there are real sovereign countries in the world of them there, but there are 200 of them, in fact, they are races and end immediately there are more or less. there is even more or less sovereign podlipshey still there, damn it, not sovereign there, yes. well, it's glass. if we count this, then there can be three, yes, yes, and that’s all, and therefore the horse, of course, is a friend, adults looked around from side to side and realized that no , but there is russia - this is a subject, if russia wins back this whole story to the extent that
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we assume it, whom we want it, then, of course. e, latin america africa e, asian belt india e. china is simple. well, as if these are cool boys. we will be friends with them , they are worth dealing with, they are able to solve their problems. and they can even help us solve our problems. that is, it was clear even before the special operation. and now, of course, many are tense, because well, i’ll give you a simple example there, and we now have a pmc there on the eve of the war there, yes, our dudes and, uh, all of a sudden it turned out that they are ordered there? well, relatively speaking, in sixteen strange one-time periods of the year, they ordered it, because they served there. there is a battalion of french, relatively speaking, they say something to us by the french somehow. we're better . let's bring a platoon of russians. they are cheaper, tougher, as if more professional, and in general, nothing is scary with them at all. i'm not honest guys are responsible for everything they are, that is, this started to happen. eh, latin america has begun to uh glance at us and
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is already inviting venezuela there, that's all, of course. kubo now in america, america understands all this. she takes it off quickly. there, all the sanctions are trying to fix relations, because they know how it will all end. how will it all end, because, of course, if russia wins back. she will reset everything. uh, that's the whole space, eurasia is not something that she will reassemble the soviet union. it's just economically unprofitable and in general. it is not necessary. not for what, but on the other hand, of course, all these here, as it were, sovereign players of the former ussr they are great understand. here is what the situation will look like there, and a month after the end of the special operation, if moscow won in it, that is, there is any run -down on some russian school on some citizen, and there kazakhstan who is russian by nationality is just uh, an icy boa look, here it is translated there and says what happened there at your school or even does not ask anything at all. just looking at this place. they say no. here is our school, please. that's open money open doors. here is your handsome one.
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which russian activist do you really like. he says good things, well, probably fear is still not the main, main thought. well why is it okay? this is why fear is normal, because, why do they behave in such a way, there is fear for russian schools for russian activists, they take a person to fight, for eight years or what for, they close all the schools there, yes. well, what good is it within. uh, the human relationship of russia is not aggressive russia will not be anyone. just like that, offending russia is not e russia is very rational and nothing is needed. she generally, of course, uh, we secretly have to say this to ourselves. it is, of course, much more nationalistic than imperial, that is, the russians are satisfied with what they have and that is enough for them, but then, of course. they will get this feeling. you don't even have to look at anyone. let's take a look. we will be clear to everyone, but everything will be clear to everyone. already after that we will build. uh, calm good neighborly relations. here on the principles of mutual understanding and uh
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and mercy thank you so much for this conversation and for mercy thank you yes the last word was not accidental. thanks for today. we will all see each other soon in order to discuss again what is happening in the post-soviet space of the territory, which, together with russia, still makes up 1/6 of listen to all the best.
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smile so little in the center of the brightest world , the blackest holes are born, but everything they do does not count. and why are the russians smiling so little trying to drown out. it has already been we repeat russians. why are you so little? are you smiling? are we smiling? when what is planned happens, when we meet with our soul mate, we smile, and at the end of each long winter we smile just a little, we through the screeds this earth rises to me, smiling and you stand on it, you feel like strength from the feet. a face rises in my head and smiles. as if , where there was only ice, cities appear, when our first goes into space, when the one who should reach victory reaches, and then returns. and smiles.
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hello and the main legal events of the day correspondents of the vesti program will tell the duty department and i maxim movchan in magnitogorsk, the court arrested the head of the agapovsky district of the chelyabinsk region baidavlett, taibergenov, an official, according to investigators, took a million rubles from a local entrepreneur for help in signing
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lease agreements. and this is not the only stain on the head's reputation a few years ago, tybergenov already found himself at the center of a media scandal on a federal scale when he tried to force journalists from a local newspaper to hand over all the texts about work district authorities. almost on a personal basis, the situation even had to intervene with colleagues from the union of journalists of russia, and then the prosecutor general's office joined in with the check, which revealed a violation in the actions of the official. the person must, well, come to some sort of normal state. after , as a matter of fact, the prosecutor general 's office pointed out to him nothing of the kind. he continued to engage in some kind of arbitrariness there in direct contact with the newspaper. he didn't go his favorite was the expression. e, in agapovsky district law - that's me. and now, after 3 years, the investigation is in full swing, in a new criminal case, to wait for its completion. fight
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to the davlet talbergenav, accustomed to keeping everything under personal control. it will be necessary in unusual conditions for themselves, the second attempt, researchers near moscow. we completed the investigation of the criminal adventures of the recidivist alexander mavride. last time, the case was complicated by the sudden absence of the main accused along with the inmates. he escaped from the istra temporary detention facility, this time the defendant is on the spot. and so there will be judgment. for what mavrida will answer andrey romanov will tell the intricate tangle of crimes of recidivist alexander mavridi and his henchmen near moscow investigators began to unravel back in november 2020 , when he was detained on suspicion of the murder of billionaire vladimir marugov, known as the sausage king, during which time a whole series of atrocities was revealed, which can be involved in the 51-year-old accused and his accomplices. they are accused, and of kidnapping, extortion of legalization of property obtained by criminal means the murder of an entrepreneur. also in committing an
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escape and other crimes. the complexity of the investigation. first of all, it consisted in the fact that the crime was committed in conditions of non- obviousness, and also in the fact that mavrid during the course of investigative actions with him. he resisted the security forces. there is evidence that the bandits, led by mavrida, could take away apartments from wealthy muscovites, one of the victims, the gang, allegedly became a lawyer, alexei zavgorodny, who was kidnapped for a long time. kept in captivity to force the lawyer to give the attackers his expensive living space in the capital. where did the apartments come from? i was there for the first time in my life, but even after the detention of the arrest of mavride, i did not calm down in august last year. he, in the company of four cellmates, made an escape from the air force in istra near moscow, the accomplices of the recidivist were quickly detained, and he himself was hiding for more than a month until he was detained by operatives at a grocery store.
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