how is agricultural equipment used? what wishes wishes such, well, with the digitalization of machines, we are coping with this remote monitoring system. this is all the task of the company, rostselmash, we are our uh guys, and we are coping with this, but what i already said sap tim center is the program on which we sit in microsoft design, these are all companies, uh, that left the market today. we would like to replace these products with russian ones. but this is well , firstly today, until we see such a full-fledged replacement, firstly, secondly, this requires capital. e capital investment. well, if there are any benefits, i don’t know support there. eh, the financial creators of these programs are analogues of these programs, then, of course, we support this activity with everything we can and will try to achieve complete independence of our country in programs. that's all and i repeat this should be

commercially interesting. so i know in relation to component manufacturers, if you can buy in china or germany for 30% or 20 or even 10% cheaper than doing it yourself, then you can to convince to force to check, but if it’s more profitable to bring, then well, it won’t be, they won’t be produced in russia. that's why we need commercial interest, some kind of diverse incentives for our programs to grow in this industry. well, thank you for holding this conference . thank you so much. in rostov, a very beautiful model was shown, in which artificial intelligence was already driving a combine. i have a question. how are you progressing in this

sense? here you have shown the monitoring system. well , does it use our solution with the appropriate artificial intelligence systems? it seems to me that this was one of the most important areas of your work. yes thank you. well, today we are installing a steering system that, with an accuracy of 2.5 cm, controls a tractor or a combine. this is a serious save. e machine time is estimated at 15%. here comes the intellectualization of the intellectualization of machines, that is, they are already adjusting themselves, but that's exactly how to remove a person from the combine. this is us so far we refer to the distant future, because the combine travels, well, it moves in an environment where people are present in this field, and it moves along the roads. but in general, of course, we are moving in this direction in a direction that will free the operator from, as it were, from routine questions and routine questions. no, it's clear and well, well.

thank you. thank you. konstantin anatolyevich well, we all heard what you need, the siemensat center has a lot to replace, but you say that you do not have enough capital, and you do not see an alternative functional. i am sure that you have both, we will suggest all the tools and i agree that it should be commercially interesting. the only thing, of course, is 200 people for 14,000 companies of your uh, specialists uh to enter. it seems to me that it may not be enough. well, you can use the services of vendors and aggregators, we are moving to a joint shipbuilding company corporation one of the four that also received the task and gave commitments, definitely this is our locomotive of the shipbuilding industry of almost 100.000 specialists. by the way, tell me how much import substitution you have, it is obvious that one of the key tasks for you in the near future,

please, vladimir yuryevich thank you very much for the opportunity to speak, but i will allow myself to introduce myself a little more precisely, i am the servant of two masters, because on one on the other hand, i am an employee of the united shipbuilding corporation. here is the director of the department, and on the other hand. i am the director of the malachite project control bureau, which specializes in the field of multi-purpose nuclear submarines. therefore, i will speak both from the position of the parent company and from the position. here is e design organization. i will allow myself. well, literally here in such short strokes, but the main problematic issues are how we move. and where are we heading? well, the first from the point of view of some general industry. yes, that's what it says to replace the boxed solution, but i think that this is not the issue that should be discussed. you just need to do it and just replace it, let's say we have software products from odessa no, we have completely switched to domestic software products. and engineers.

they didn't even notice. here's the point of view. e. let's say, er, if we're talking about an enterprise management program. yes, this is what we call the erp system, but i also absolutely agree that this is the very case when you need to use the template solution as much as possible here, just the problem is that we can be ourselves, uh, we don’t finish talking a little, but there is a problem, after all. uh, digitalization, digitalization, digital transformation. there is one very important aspect that we should not to digitize, then what is. digital transformation itself, it requires, first of all, a revision of the main business processes from this point of view. i believe that the introduction of boxed solutions in terms of enterprise management is just a way to break down, remove some e. well, how i would say to veil. and with us everything is very uh, uh, which has developed over many years very individually. i assure you this is a tradition, and in some areas.

they must and must be changed. and that's what mikhail vladimirovich was talking about, why? here i am next questions. i pass smoothly. this is sarah, so we are talking, why do we not have a domestic sarah but do we have specialists that are dumber? no, but what is a secret for someone, that the same farant, which is here in spain. yes, the company is a trainer, in fact , specialists at one time who left the soviet union of the institute, which means that the central technological institute of shipbuilding and ship repair. they made this product. what we do not have brains, we lose in another. we want to, but i’m talking about myself now, we want it right away, and now i’ve come and paid money from everything appeared to me at once. it's clear, understandable, like a thought, but it's too early too early. yes, but uh, i just wanted to say that there is

such a moment that we do not have temporary developments, well, this is testing. here, i will give a simple example , uh, it means shipbuilding cad. for a long time i can talk for hours about the uniqueness of shipbuilding underwater surface military civil. and it's true. it's true that there are few specialized shipbuilding cad systems in the world. and i assure you that russia has never had access to sap, which is used in the design of submarines, never under any circumstances. here but we have created a lot of, as we say, crutches. why , they finished the software, it was not foreigners who finished it, either we ourselves, or you finished it, what prevents us today from creating our own sabr. and here i want to say that the following approach is implemented in the united construction corporations. uh. we are under sanctions for the fourteenth year. we have two domestic

developers who are here to represent. eh, as if developments in the field of shipbuilding. it's, uh, the ascona firm. top system is, respectively , compass 3d and teflex software products. and it turned out a kind of synergy. what they came there and said, we want our product to meet your requirements, but we don’t know your requirements, we say my friends, and we don’t have money to pay you to develop for us. both sides thought and decided, let's do it differently, you have us, well, i'm calling conditionally, but run to buy a solution in the future, but now you will issue us the technical tasks that will require us to implement your requirements for our money. but at the same time, you must act as beta testers. and this synergy, this synergy, of course, allowed us to finish off such significant

achievements. and i want to say that just yesterday, in my opinion, ended in st. petersburg, organized under the auspices of the white nights with a horse. here is such a, as it were, reconciliation of today's current state. i must say that at the beginning two pilot projects joined this project. this there was one bureau underwater and one i take on the surface. naturally, uh, as if the products were presented at specialized exhibitions. uh, interest in them is growing interest. appeared. yeah, not only the military component has appeared, the civilian component has already appeared for the first time at the conference, which was here yesterday, there was a private business enterprise that represents private interests. and why because the most important thing in a software product. it's him like i say mtbf the more with him work, the better it becomes therefore this is what concerns the domestic savra. now, i would like to say that this applies to

shipbuilding. what is special about the length of the life cycle of products is 50 years, so we want this, we do not want it. we are those products that have started their operation today. they will be maintained for many decades, so one of us is such a significant future quality that should, well, how would the future have, here is a system that is imperatorability. so she must communicate in the same language. both existing software products and future ones, and in this regard, of course, it is of great importance not to forget that any product is not only geometry, the most important thing is the electronic structure of the product description, we are talking about a three-dimensional em approach, yes, to modeling a 3d model we must not forget that there are other dimensions. this is the cost - this is the time of creation - these are things that we should also strive for and especially in the civilian, as far as certification is concerned. sometimes you need to design not only

in order to achieve the requirements of tactical-tactical characteristics, it is important to create a product in time and in time. this is exactly the same characteristic that needs to be controlled, and in order to manage it, it must be measured. i'm not saying that this problem is being solved now. but this is what we have determined for ourselves, not imports. e substitution, yes, and imports are ahead of everything rounding off. i'm sorry . and the last two words. i just wanted to say about nizhny novgorod. i can’t resist that we have implemented a joint project with enterprises of nizhny novgorod is affias. this is kbm. this is a pfran project that has actually been implemented and has already been commissioned to date. e, that means not only verification, but also validation for testing on a full scale. this is the element of the digital twin. i'm glad to report to you. here and so briefly. such are the fundamental points. thank you. thank you. i have a quick question. oh, please, even here it turns out. you just

said so vividly that support is needed and you are ready to participate in this. well who's better than you is called a master in each of its forms. whether you screw up what you use, you need to unite to find the best solution to agree on it. forgive everyone to sit down together, but to agree on a very serious player, there are four of you who promised this squawk transforming and to, uh, kamaz. here is today with a figure. let's get away with joining you in those players. who wants to find. this is the same model, and you help to choose the right one, because there are a lot of small narrow solutions from which, in principle, it is difficult to replicate, but you can replicate those nuances, oh, which you mentioned and the life cycle and compatibility with the platforms the solutions in which you designed are very important, i ask you to participate more actively in this sense in the search for solutions that the industry already provides today, i don’t know enough this is an exhibition and in conclusion. i will speak. we need to continue to constantly continue to gather precisely in these

industries and constantly not just talk about it, but look for the most, but possible solutions for scaling mikhail vladimirovich, we will remove all our crutches. and i'm wondering if i then i'll ask about b. this is a test of submarine design systems. this is something that was interesting to me. that's how the engineers didn't notice. the transition from autodesk is also an experience, it will be necessary to scale the next speaker to the united aircraft corporation. also included in the top four the share of the window of the world market for the supply of military aviation equipment since the tenth year is about 15% many digital technologies have already become standards without paper design of the new generation of fighters su-35 and superjet 100 both created by the sukhoi design bureau, mikhail yuryevich how are you doing with import substitution, please? thank you good afternoon colleagues. uh, i imagine,

united aircraft corporation we are already working entirely in digital design without paper drawings, and at the moment, united construction corporation uses more than 100 products of which most of them are domestically produced. we can say that at the moment such areas as kaye and ils, that is, digital digital calculations and integrated genetic support. conducted entirely on fatherland software this has become. perhaps thanks to the joint work that was launched 10 years ago as part of the federal target program for the development of supercomputer technologies for the aviation industry, jointly with the state corporation rusatom, and a whole set of supercomputer e models was created that are superior in their own way. purely foreign analogues

allow. uh, in essence, means, uh, to refuse such products, and we have already refused, as a foreigner and others, in fact at the moment. uh, next stage of this work is that within the framework of government decree 707 on subsidies. we are together with the state corporation. now we are developing fragments of digital twins. er, why not a digital twin? well, because the aviation complex is such a complex system that we are working on this technology on separate systems with verification of the results, and therefore we have moved to such a stage as digital test benches, which have already partially refused ground tests. and spending on that, uh, existing u basis of natural work, achieved in previous projects. and moreover , already on a number of projects that the united construction corporation is developing, including

with the ministry of defense, the results have already been obtained for the certification of these stands. in addition, we are essential. e hmm prime minister today in a speech. i mentioned this point, we significantly reduce the time for development work through the use of these technologies, and this primarily applies not only to ground tests, but also flight flight ones are built according to technology first design refinement, then the evaluation part. that's thanks to hmm creating such digital ones. uh, technologies allow at least, according to our estimates, to reduce the time of experimental design work by 20-30%, but uh, there is also a problem area - this is the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthis systems the traditionally united construction corporation uses the nx system. the military departments of the corporation have long been

under sanctions since this year, even our civilian corporations. uh, they also came under sanctions, and in the strategy, of course, they exist now, uh, domestic m-m products of catasystems mentioned today, but according to our repeated verification of a joint assessment. they cover only about 60% of the functionality that aviation developers need e, so varnish sees strategies for moving towards a platform that can replace e, at the system level , systems such as nx and team center are completely a project to create a life cycle support system, products that are carried out by the state corporation rusatom, however, according to the schedule, which is the industry version. forms will be created only in the twenty- seventh twenty-eighth year, which does not allow uh?

fulfill the e-presidential decree on the transition completely to patriotic software from january 1 , 2025. in this regard, our proposals. e, is that to consider the possibility, e industry version shift start, without waiting for the establishment of the underlying platform. oh, ready to perform. here, uh, the general customers to formulate the terms of reference ask by the figure to help with the choice of the developer given uh, already industry-specific platforms. and we are ready. mm to participate actively in testing. uh, pilot projects so that, uh, this version, which will be an industry-created one, she could pick up the most important thing, then a twenty-year-old created in the team center system and nx e, basis and be

acceptable a few more words. i, uh, have another direction in oka, which is the development of my own software. we have, uh, uh, about 3,000 programmers on staff, uh, who create functional software e software for the aviation complex used in the information and control system of aircraft, both civil and military , e software was created during this period. but here are our achievements, maybe they look modest for digital russia as a whole, but here it is on a fifth-generation aircraft. we reached 7 million lines. eh, everything is created in the domestic. uh, the toolkit and half of there more than 50 are generated automatically, while, uh, their own operating system has been created interspecies cyber-protected uh, the real

time, which is also used in aviation complexes. we have problems here, er, the government decree that 805 was issued to support it companies. er, it doesn't, unfortunately . here are specialists who are not in uh companies uh in the form of structural divisions, but often just programmers work in the structural divisions of the design bureau. this is due to the fact that to create such software, you need a very close contact. c and business processes do not allow them to be distinguished in subsidiary. we would ask, uh, the government to consider extending some of the benefits of this ordinance to hmm professionals working in the industry. thank you for your attention. mikhail yurievich wait, wait. no, what are the benefits, for whom not, not only at rusatom, but at the enterprise, well, uh, of course, i can’t

have insurance tax there, but in mikhailovich’s varnish, so that it’s quieter than it people in armenia, they took them mikhail yuryevich dear look, it means that for this we are talking about it all the time, do it, and daughter and, accordingly, in this way to bring out her production cycle will not collapse. if you make a daughter and take advantage of all the benefits, but large huge companies did otherwise for this. all will be with us with zero tax on profits or with three percent. but this is not fair to others. we don't claim income tax . hmm er we claim er support measures specific to it, specialists were one of them that's a deferment. this is a preferential army, suitable mortgages. yes, it's a mortgage. these are grants for development of specific software. we do not pretend to be able to spread

three questions. of course, the first. is it possible to replace, and full-scale tests with completely digital ones , or to what extent is it possible? oh, then you said that a fully digital company is the second question, if you are a fully digital company, you use an electronic signature term in all your design drawings. well, uh, third question. e. and how do you keep it people? 3,000 it people - is this serious and did you quit a little? thank you means how to remember the electronic signature. we have been using since 2017. we have an electronic unqualified signature, which means that we are forced, since we are in the military equipment certification system, to use a duplicate directive paper memo directive, but uh, last year the ministry of defense launched a project, and it was successfully completed as a pilot, where it was included in the electronic coordination chain, including the electronic

coordination of the military. reps, so i i think that in the near future we will abandon the last moment here. am the first question. i forgot. no. maybe not how can it be replaced, but full-scale digital ones and how much they probably want to hear what is possible, but i’ll say that it’s not quite so it means, uh, up to 50% in certain areas can be replaced it all depends on the previous history, if if there is an essential experimental base from that obtained on real full-scale tests, then over time it is possible to verify the models. yes, a very high percentage but one hundred percent is unrealistic. oh, i think, at least in such very complex systems , simpler ones, probably, over time. you can go there under 90%. well, we keep it. of course, it is very difficult for us to deal with super-tech with it companies

, we often have practice, but we have a turnover of such specialists, we consider very good, if it does not exceed 15% very good, therefore, to a certain extent, we are a training center for the above companies, because we do not take ready-made specialists, but we take young specialists who we educate, and then, well, after all, our industry cannot give such motivational ones, too , they say that they are also a school for everyone. well, i don't know trillion trillion big i was alerted that you said that 60% of the functionality. it only satisfies and i think that we will talk about this separately in your consortium, because i live in the feeling that this figure is higher, apparently, there is some specificity in aircraft construction, and thank you very much, let's move on to the next company

power machines in the top five energy companies in power engineering, the company's share is about 70% of the market and power equipment in russia and the cis, there are a lot of solutions for all types of software. although we definitely need sanych, as a center of competence in many areas of all enterprise performance management, especially. and, of course, there are a lot of solutions with the internet of things, industrial in metallurgy. i ask you for a word. thank you dmitry nikolaevich respect mikhailo vladimirovich dear participants of the conference. thank you for the opportunity to speak. uh, it’s obvious that digitalization has become a huge part of our lives, to a certain extent, bases and platforms both at home and at work. we have been there for probably 20 years, developing various products and programs, speaking of the programs and

products that we are developing today and that we started doing a few years ago, including as part of import substitution. i would like to mention the maintenance management system for repairs, which replaces janellelectric medium. in the sixth grade, we develop communication e, we replace software for office suites, where possible, microsoft with all sorts of domestic solutions. we have actively begun to develop solutions for the internet of things. eh, and on the basis of russian. e, field sensors e, and for use in the lorean system together with instead of siemens or schneider electrician. uh, the big topic is information security. uh, we are now actively working on the risks of operating e rp systems on saab base and mes system. at the same time, it is clear that today we are faced with an unprecedented level of e, risks of problems associated with sanctions. here, i would very much welcome the holding of our

conference, mikhail vladimirovich, your position, which you often actively articulate. i don't know, i think even from our meeting. how to say, i don't know, panel discussions. today it is clear that, in my opinion, we do not fully understand what is happening. we find ourselves cut off from the main suppliers. yesterday, severstal came under american sanctions already before that. we have been here in europe for 3 months already and i personally mean yesterday for 20 minutes there, as i was told, my colleagues came in and colleagues from respected well-known american software providers called and said that they could no longer serve us. power machines have been under sanctions since 2018, and the situation, in general, continues to be extremely serious here. it seems to me that we. well, we probably have 2-4 years to find an adequate solution, but there is no more time, and hmm here, we must probably do exactly what, as i

understand it, mikhail vladimirovich, you are calling on us to make the first inventory of needs. we need some kind of plan. uh, giving some general, or maybe a pretty clear idea. oh actually. what products we do not have, as a fact, we are all sitting on foreign software, everything. i suspect that the vast majority of those present, probably all 100%, have a smartphone in their pocket. each of us has a computer on it is not russian software, this is a serious risk and serious challenge. we need to somehow decide what we are doing with this, mikhail vladimirovich dear colleagues, indeed. there is another very important thing, this is the plum aspect, which is already shown by today's discussion. there are a huge number of needs, a huge number of developments. so, it would probably be right to inventory them too and understand what we have and what is available to each other. here is our practice. mm our booth. here adjacent to the stand. e of transmashholding. eh, we were surprised to learn about control is tight and the possibilities that they have.

although we ourselves are very actively involved in the system and repair management. so here, probably, it is very important to talk about what needs to be done. i would like to emphasize what we probably need today, but to combine the power of the state with private initiative and private interest. and it is extremely dangerous to hit one or another bias, i am a big fan of private interest and the market today, we probably cannot do without this connection. and it probably could be in the form. first of all the inventory needs itself, probably some kind of evaluation. and it is very important to do so. this inventory using business opportunities is extremely. eh, it's dangerous. if this inventory will be done by some noteworthy specialists and excuse me, dear ministers of defense officials. yes , they must have brought it. at the same time, indeed. we have to bring in the specialists who are in the state to use it, the expertise of the business, to take stock of what is there, and at the same time, by the way, it would be great. maybe even organize. here

to organize on a regular basis a more intensive event similar to today's, so that we at least learn from each other, we probably need a further deadline for the forgiveness of the registration procedure, the created haikey solutions and inclusion in the russian register. according to there are some archaic things, for example, the growth of a patent, until now the program code requires to be provided on floppy disks, yes, that is, there are probably some things that are needed. it is possible to simplify somehow, if the second we need to combine this now with an initiative, in my deep persuasion. what is a connection? i would see it as holding a line of work. sorry. yes, i continue the tradition, so, uh, it’s probably right to carry on, t- highlight to be determined from behind. by the way, another very important question. we are now somehow forgive me for repeating myself to support traditions. i'm afraid. i really don’t understand the scale of the disaster, that is, today we all understand, yes, and erpi based on 1c is an interesting thing, but we basically have rp made on the basis. sapa is interesting for a couple of companies sapa switched to 1c because it turned out to be cheaper, easier, it seemed insanely more expensive, so

we probably need to figure it out. and how much is already available from the resources and how much is needed to remake the software, and then, within the framework of these resources, probably, mikhail vladimirovich colleagues need to make a decision about what possibilities we have for allocating funds for this business, because and continue to organize, probably, competitions with the involvement of private initiative. in order, perhaps, i have emphasized to you one more very important thing on on a competitive basis, which means, probably, it is necessary to do what the government has already begun to do to subsidize development, for example, for every ruble invested in development, give its own ruble. so, at the same time, uh, to subsidize the purchase, uh , of software, but also to subsidize through every ruble. uh, spent on you. let's give our ruble preferential loans there, and so on, of course, within the framework of the speech and within the framework of the panel , it’s very difficult to work out all the details, soft, i don’t pretend at all that i understand uh, all the details of this mechanism, but i want to emphasize once again the fundamental importance of using the power of the state, the power of the market, and private initiative in order to develop, uh, those software

solutions that will allow us to get out of that, well, in general, really trap, in where we are thank you very much for this initiative. for our part, we are definitely ready to join. thank you alexey alexander thank you very much. you have emphasized important things, and we will do it right now, right away. as you said, then i believe that half must be invested. i spoke about this briefly and for this i am a special fund. ah, max yes , who will invest in this, decide on a platform, please, officials do not like it. here you just get together businessmen and make a simple choice for us. i'm serious, but we will be glad this choice. we will support with all the tools that the industrial development fund of the ministry of digital development has. and so on, absolutely true. here hmm very serious deeply. think about what needs to be done urgently. here we are we say differently, but why don’t you assemble the flagships of russian production, don’t come, do n’t demand, including the government. we

try to assemble for all the same what is being made modern aircraft, ships, modern machine tools, and , unfortunately, we do not have so many of them, yes, so today they must unite and give us an inventory order. what are three quick questions for you? due to the fact that today we have shown that severstal is working quite seriously on the figures of the first. when will it be produced the russian gas, turbine one, two, is an electric filling station, which everyone is waiting for promised, when you can rank. we are waiting for all this. and i think kamaz will not mind. yes, and you, too, probably make such a station, but uh, and also, i guess i would like to say that i found out that you encourage student designers to do this on purpose. probably in order to attract personnel from there later, but this is wonderful student design heroes - this is the basis for future design and the birth of new russian

engineers two words about it. say thank you mihailovich first, you can make a very short comment about your previous comment. why haven't we gathered yet, perhaps the moment hasn't come yet, how to say the moment hasn't happened, because we've all been sitting on the west side in one way or another, using it. well, many developments, including all our autocads and sabras, but now the moment has come. thank you for this initiative, we have already secured, therefore, i think it's time for us to get together and decide. yes, especially since there are very few resources to develop a replacement twice. sub they can afford no one. that is, we do not have much money today, but returning to your questions. thank you experienced sample. first pilot sample. uh, the gt 170 will be developed later this year. e next year in the fall. we have to make the first delivery. uh, for that energy, and tatarstan, as far as electric filling stations are concerned, is a very promising direction. we see a huge trend in this direction. the first station will be developed. it has already been developed. and we will be able to produce it at the end of this year. we need an order.

now we are negotiating, including from kamaz with the mayor's office, st. petersburg, moscow. we are ready to do it. in principle, this is not a very complex product. we are ready to make it so. as far as the market needs. let's hope it will be in demand. and, as for design, i take student courses as a very promising direction. we have about 100 students. eight universities are engaged in the fb goal exactly, the one you said to attract the best personnel. and what is very good is not only that we are getting used to the best shots, which is very important, we are reviving. interest in engineering specialties, students begin to feel the practical usefulness of what they are learning, they become interested and do not light up. and, of course, we not only find talents, but also help talent to emerge. this is a very important direction. i call everyone. by the way, if possible, follow this path. we have , by the way, a very good day off, about 40% of those students who graduate come to us. thank you. yes, that's a high conversion rate. yes, i agree. we all already understood that alexey alexandrovich will participate in the inventory of shadayev’s industry, we will not let it go, and we will

finally understand the scale of the disaster and decide how much to subsidize and we will move on to development, perm motors the company has already taken track on importoz independence creates its own very interesting solutions, for example. i really like the industrial wi-fi smart production of colleagues, and for the first time in the world, e is being created at enterprises holding a digital twin of a marine gas turbine engine. there 400 from the model are very interesting projects, alexander alexandrovich, i ask. you have a word. thank you. good afternoon, mikhail vladimirovich dear participants of the conference, presentation. please open mine. i imagine that the research and production complex perm motors includes two enterprises - this is the aircraft engine design bureau and the perm motors serial plant, but we are in the process of merging in the next year and a half. we will become

one yurtsom presentation my launch, please so yes, some kind of puncture for now. tell us now, we'll get it. uh. well, of course, that 's what we are now discussing. for us. it's just a routine. just routine. we haven't seen paper for a long time. we have been working on full life cycle models for a long time, but what i want to say is that we have never had an end in itself to buy, fashionable software, or there hard we have always proceeded before us with one wing, and we survived for 25 years, and we just realized that it is for me to create the most powerful means of information technology, their application throughout the entire life cycle, from design

to the decision to decommission the engine's utility. and this is about half a century, 60 years have passed. we have made a decision. only the most powerful compilation will save us. in this situation, and the americans began to deal with this engine 15 years earlier than us. we started in the ninety-fourth year, well, there is no presentation, it's a pity, and everything was gradually increased in the eighth year, when, by order of vanya valerievich, we finally started pace to create an engine. we already had a complete life cycle model ready, so there is not a single piece of paper anywhere, only pieces of paper are on my desk, because i mainly sign papers to the outside world, and in the outside world there are few digital signatures. well, plus where the military does not yet accept. and so we have a fully electronic signature , so we fell under sanctions. in september of the eighteenth year of the nineteenth year, this work was launched. well, about the same firms, harsh and so on, which are the guys called here. they are the most advanced. we have deadlines. unfortunately they crawl. now we are promised average.

hard it was shared somewhere in the hell of a year by heavy hard type, it goes less and less already at 25-26. well, for now, i must say that all our licenses are either perpetual or 5 years. all that we will not receive updates. we'll hold on, but we can't delay any further. there's no way we can delay, so we're here all the time. but what, what i would consider very important, we do not allow any it people any liberties. they are ours service personnel their task is to improve our production design technologies. uh maintenance and so on and so forth, and so step right step left of our artesi. this is punished very harshly. we really have a powerful department of our own, about 150 specialists , who are just a spacer between engineers and technology manufacturers. and those who do all this are dogs, and they are very highly qualified. therefore, mikhail hit us with a shukasu , and in any bank, in any insurance

companies, if the second book is standing there for air movement, they simply take it with their hands, because there the tasks are all an order of magnitude simpler than ours, so we also need to solve this. it's somehow . we are also talking about our daughter, but with this daughter we have so much to draw up our bureaucracy at this time, i will lose everyone, so i had to raise salaries at the end of march, san sanych is issued to everyone twice, i will personally help you because of the application i will fill out here this. i'm not kidding, we need to hear everything in rostec. that's when you were in perm in november last year, and he reported, despite the fact that we created this most powerful platform, which allowed us to make an engine. the next task is fri-35 and i had 3.5 billion pledged, to develop further and unfortunately, mainly on hart because he wears out when he works 15 years, 7 to 24. well, now the situation has changed. now we are mainly moving towards import substitution. well

, i had, uh, had slides by whom we work with everyone. uh, keep everyone under control. unfortunately, to your question meets our requirements of 40, well, a maximum of sixty percent. and some of our tasks. you saw me showing you. how many polymer composite materials are in the engine and about the aircraft today? i’m not talking about the black wing zero, until full zero 5 years passed, people couldn’t do anything, therefore, but what’s so special, that’s all this commercial software, and everyone can already buy it, but for some reason not everyone makes engines aviation the problem is that it is saturated with verification. this is a transfer of experience that only those who have already done something have, and the second is an experiment that verifies and brings to mind. these are all the big big expensive programs. this is a unique thing and each company guards the door, like zenith and oka, this is the knowledge and verification of all these packages that went to the market, they bought, please, designed the engine.

so i don't really like the term digital twin. uh, i think this is a catchy commercial term invented to sell suckers, expensive. uh, the researchers at no, that's brilliant. i think it affects people like this, but it's okay to explore. they know matweidel. we are from a process model or a mathematical model, an object, everything. and this is this, this is correct, but a digital twin. well, to breed big bosses. thanks, i'm sorry i couldn't . show presentations san sanych well , great. eh, everything. new is good. forgotten old. actually absolutely agree. after all , a digital diary is nothing but a mathematical model that has been studied for many years, including in soviet institutions. i have san sanych, we have two questions for you, when we looked at your unique production and solved the problem. first of all, but to fully provide you with everything you need, including financing. we talked about, respectively, how do sanctions affect the

process of import substitution? i have a direct question for you, how sanctions, including the extreme ones, have a great impact on this process. these are the first and second. hey, a question for you. and what other support measures do you need from the government from the country to make all your plans come true? i remember them well. we are with you we talked until 35, we are waiting and, god forbid, i won’t say that, well, we already have positive and good progress there. here's what else you need, what you need from the industry development fund, what you need from min figures, what from pinpromtorg, what from the government at in here you think now and, as a general designer, prioritization, do what you need thanks. well, if not only to go, everything is everything. well , the problems for technologies are all about the same, that is, you need to make your own software faster, and medium-heavy repeat. if we talk, now about hardware, roughly speaking, then, of course, the situation is very

difficult, the most serious blow today was dealt to the pd-35, because i reported to you that there are not even experimental bases anywhere in the country and there are hardly any specialists who can to create a base, and we took a canadian company, which the chinese had already built into such a bench base. well, unfortunately, she's gone now. now we ourselves will recover, we are pristalism. i remember very well that we ourselves designed all the stands of any complexity by the designers themselves. at u.s. not there was no operation there or it's outsourcing. you just have to go back to it and do it yourself, this is all the most difficult work. help to look for people, what does it mean that she left, she didn’t leave, we will find our specialists, we will return these competencies slowly but surely, but there is no other, but also, well, i reported to you that i have been heading the department for more than 20 years. i graduated from the seventy- third year, that's why i have a problem with the engineer. no, i provide for myself. i am now the main trouble, this is, uh, technology controllers, and we are building we for you showed that we are building a new magnificent

shvetsov technical school, which we will complete the construction of the thirtieth anniversary next year. i hope to see you or vladimirevich at the opening. and that's when we start to solve this problem, because people went, people see interesting work, however, i went to a different path. i passed the student design bureau, but it doesn’t work for us. i followed the path of having them all in the departments as interns since the fourth year. chiefs. they roar, of course, the continuation does not understand anything. here, well, the boss pays extra to they don't cry, it was easier for them, it's a system. i 've had it for 15 years now. i save 3 years in this way, because the specialist did not succeed, he only harms the first 7 years, and then he already begins to give returns. i've been saving for 3 years now. it's already good. well, no, i'm not saying it 's different for everyone in different industries. it can be different, we have problems, what we all do n’t have, why we unite in our business there is no product-design documentation, because it lives with the engine and all western firms start at the beginning of the last century separate design bureaus

separately plant. they all merged because continuous improvement needs to be monitored. and this is one of the reasons, for some reason separately, especially from children who do not express anything. so it has some effect. i myself was in such a cafe in the seventieth year, therefore, er. here we are on the path. that's it probation in the departments. moreover, financial incentives for bosses , moreover, when they pass my exam. i have special exams when that gets salary, as a young specialist from those bosses who won, that is. that's what the boss was doing, i'll pay. this is where it started working. we adopt the san sanych system by stop. stop, another question was what else is needed from the state , the ministry of industry and trade, the industry development fund, min numbers, so that only money and not for it people, and we are not a customer for us. remember our conversation. i remember the number. you yourself didn’t just shake my hand to look for it, mikhalych. thank you for this, enough

for everything and the term you called money like that. enough of me. tomorrow they will fire you 50 years of billions, which you immediately sent me a week later and want to cut out for other more important projects. and i think it is impossible to stop the prospects even in the conditions of war. this is the life of a male. and what are you talking about who is taking away from you? tell me the last name, first name, patronymic of this official, but seriously, they are all here. i understand that now there is a task of enormous complexity ; we didn't even build specialists today four engines. in a year or two, if there is seriously enough money, well, now there is enough for a specific project pd-14. so far, nothing has been signed, only conversations. i was not brought then, then. now let's go talk. all agreed. well, the main thing, let's move on, how not to stop. let's better print, we won't have a printed stop on the pd-35. this is the locomotive of everything, including what we are now discussing now . yes, yes, sansanych, uh, the promise to catch up with the

americans and overtake. uh, before we heard everything, but also wanted to draw attention. mikhail vladimirovich for the second time. uh, they say that russia evgenyevich rosatom is 27 years old, heavy software does not suit anyone, it is obvious that a microphone will need to be made. and i didn’t hear andrey nikolaevich’s question 27 term uh for heavy industrial software what you had at the booth and san sanych says this does not suit anyone, so we want to hear your proposal. well, let's start with the fact that we didn't have 27 years at the booth. the booth was e, information was presented on engineering calculations, as long as there are systems we are talking about, then it goes. here, first of all, about products, and the life cycle program. uh, those bait blocks are one of, uh , one of the products. uh, the multi -platform sarovskiy, which obviously

needs additional support today, is what mikhail vladimirovich spoke about in his speech about the urgent creation of such ends of sums, and consumers of developers under developers, meaning both large players and industrial ones. uh, private m-m it-companies. uh, with proper funding for these works. uh, you can drink about shifting the deadlines to the left, then the task is to do, but i'm not afraid of this word such a digital state plan, where goals and objectives will be clearly set and defined, er, stages, delivery of, say, platforms. uh, the same product called saws, for example, and erp systems, but consumers will act as receivers. this is the role of the government in coordinating financial flows, uniting the developers of the consortium and clear

acceptance of work from those consumers who are actually customers, it is necessary with a certain risk. uh, apparently implement the platform, realizing that they are not 100% ready today, but in the course of this implementation, receive feedback and complete it in battle just such work. we took over to a system called logos here. and someone called her a digital twin. who is the model there? both are correct, in our understanding it is completely e, corresponding to the requirements and customers. and most importantly, even the international standards system, and mathematical calculations of engineering mathematical calculations and colleagues who passed with us this hard way understands that not everything was good all at once. and uh, right here. i just apologize to mikhail vladimirovna that i may be delaying the speech a little. where did e come from, what system was it born from that decision made at

the level of mikhail sergeyevich gorbachev on the prohibition of nuclear tests, and we did not have the opportunity for our e bombals. excuse me for this rude word, except to create such a system for the corresponding e products, and these codes came from there, then they were withdrawn at the level of the second e, a to the civil sector is raised in certain correct procedures. were multiplied by large projects on e, supercomputers in both sarov and snezhinsk and we received. i think so, honestly, i will say 80% ready-made model of engineering calculations. when will you make the platform? let's get together maksud igorevich. so, we will understand all the support tools we will understand are clear, which your departments are ready to move the deadlines for money. they said to the left, well, apparently the question is, how are the ideas, well, it will depend on the

stages that our receivers will put like, uh, target conditions by the twenty-fifth twenty-sixth twenty-seventh year. so do not torture me even when applying from the press tools and i will call until i understand the requirements and rules of work, otherwise i will be an insolvent person. and it is impossible to formulate requirements. he has already promised us and will share his system of stimulating the mentoring program so that the colleagues' leaders do not cry. thank you very much for the detailed answers, mikhail vladimirovich, we completed our obligatory panel program with this enchanting performance sessions. a and. i would like to invite you for the closing remarks.

thanks everyone. thanks for the detailed conversation. especially our panelists, of course, many of your initiatives. we will take into account in the work of the government and correctly try to involve businesses in the inventory, in principle, a lot has already been done to support the information technology industry. well, now it should help the development of our industry a little in the opposite direction and within the framework of the tasks that the president has set for us. this must be done very quickly, taking into account today's discussion. i propose first to create industrial centers of competence to replace foreign solutions in key sectors of the economy. therefore, i ask the ministry of digital development, together with other departments, to prepare appropriate proposals for their personnel . this is very important. by the way, to provide for the participation of representatives of the leading

companies of the industry leaders and no one, so as not to deny them. a term not in essence, in order to involve them as much as possible in solving the tasks facing us and deadlines and because we want to see the result, the second is to combine the efforts of customers and developers to create and implement new digital products. here are ours in a row. well, the very same companies that produce software and that then implement it must understand the measure of their responsibility, because it’s one thing to make a tablet solution and an office for automation, and another thing is to produce a modern aircraft car, or modern heavy technology, so work out matsuda igorevich, please, this question report to me by the middle of next month and also with colleagues. look who should be included in the competence centers for the development of technological solutions. we also need the order of work of these structures so that we can understand. the government commission

to consider a proposal to replace industry and energy, general systemic foreign solutions with russian software products and software hardware systems, you need to choose from what is best and, accordingly, submit a list that we will approve, but approve with a vote our key customers. so, one more very important point. it is necessary to provide for additional measures to support the introduction of russian - these are products, and our software and hardware systems. and so here i would ask the ministry of digital development together with the ministry of industry. this is such a symbiosis, and by the first of august, this is exactly how we agreed that the representatives agreed on a proposal on this matter. dear colleagues, dear friends, i want to say once again the achievement of the national goal of digital transformation of the economy, which was approved by the president, is possible only with joint coordinated work with the participation of

developers and the state from customers. we need to stop blaming and chatting on each other to reach an agreement and achieve concrete results. together we will create, and all the conditions that we have appeared even more concretely capable solutions. for every industry. i am deeply convinced that such solutions exist. today we saw a whole range of solutions, about which many of us even professionals in turkey didn’t know, well, a colleague just shared what he saw at a nearby stand, and virtualization, when he didn’t know and believe me, and there are a lot of solutions in our country and each industry has its own leaders, there are manufacturers of relevant solutions that will come in handy er, a very large number of computers. let's get together and make this program work real. i thank everyone, especially the initiators of this forum, that we have gathered here like this, including contractors and customers and members of the government.

today we spoke very frankly honestly, we need to get together more often. all the best. thank you this was the footage of the plenary session of the digital industry conference, industrial russia, she is now on to other topics of the day. several people were injured, the driver died, the ukrainian military fired at cars with journalists at a facility in severodonetsk, including reporters. what is the condition of the victims, what is the situation in the conflict zone ? territorial defense units in the russian ministry of defense have again turned on the armed forces in creating fake weapons double standards. why the united states was convicted of an inconsistent approach to lethal weapons, where is the line between help and provocation, and here, ukraine the focus is on the

food crisis, in particular the supply of wheat vladimir putin met with representatives of the african union in sochi such statements were made robotization and informatization of the development of the digital industry in the russian industry was discussed at a conference in nizhny novgorod what innovations are proposed? do we have the necessary software and hardware? we have 300 brigades of the emergency service and operate around the clock moscow was again covered by a heavy downpour. how long will last more important? vladimir putin approved a list of instructions on the prevention of forest fires and the elimination of their consequences, the government was instructed to prepare draft decrees for six regions by june 10, including the krasnoyarsk territory of the irkutsk region and kuzbass with in 2023, the federal budget will provide for competitions for rapid

response to emergencies in forests and the involvement of the force of the ministry of emergency situations for extinguishing. of the project and ecology, and in the final item of the instruction it is announced that it will be held this year. in yakutia, an event to artificially induce precipitation in order to prevent forest fires. vladimir putin met with representatives of the african union in sochi focus on expanding cooperation, including economic cooperation, and my colleague, leilau nazarova leila, is joining us greetings what exactly did you say yuri greetings we discussed the most sensitive issue of the food production crisis, in particular supplies wheat to africa now i will tell you in detail. russia's relations with african states are at a new stage of development. our country attaches great importance to them today

said vladimir putin at a meeting in sochi with senegalese president macky sal, who also holds the post of chairman of the african union africa's role in the international arena is growing as a whole politically, we believe that africa as a whole and its individual states, with which we traditionally have very kind without any involvement friendly relations hmm that the whole of africa as a whole it has great prospects and based on this we intend to further develop our relations with africa as a whole with individual states. vladimir putin also recalled that the russia -africa summit had already been held in sochi in 2019. the potential for significant cooperation between our countries in the first month of this year increased by more than 34 percent. in general , this indicator has doubled since 2015 and reached $20 billion in 2015. the average annual growth rate was 15%