and the luhansk people's republic, uh, they themselves want to become part of russia, we have repeatedly reported, but procedurally, for example, yes, how is it possible, for example, if you listen to western political scientists, they are now, well, vying to discuss, really seriously discussing the issue of uh -e the possibility of holding a referendum. well , let's start with the fact that ukraine has been in general for the past eight years. uh, very persistently demonstrates that the people who live in the donbas yes and today we see in zaporizhzhya, kherson region, these are not citizens of that ukraine, uh, the government that is in kiev and we see this. by the way, this was in the past and in crimea we saw in relation to people who live in crimea and blocking water supply and many other issues . and today we see exactly the same attitude towards the inhabitants of the donetsk luhansk

people's republics. zaporozhye hexon. it's not just what you listed. well, pay attention, after all, the most important thing is messy. artillery bombing attacks on cities, that is by people in fact, that is, ukraine does not consider people who live in these territories as citizens of ukraine for a long time apparently, it does not consider it, and, accordingly, what remains for the people who live there people want one thing people want a calm, stable, peaceful life and visibility, except together with russia, except as part of russia, no one this peaceful life. uh, it cannot guarantee people in these territories, which is important for us, of course, it is very important for us that there be a clear opinion expressed by people

procedures may be different, maybe a referendum may be found some other procedures. we know, based on the practice of the united nations, that a referendum is not even mandatory. yes, remember the example, kosovo for example. but of course the position of the people, er, who live on this earth. it is decisive, and the russian federation has always proceeded from the premise that people themselves should determine their future, but here, of course, now for sure, many, uh, people who live in these areas. uh, ask the same question, when and for what time it is possible to do it first of all there by the situation on the spot. uh, because , of course, conditions are necessary in order to hold a referendum or a poll, or to assemble a representative body or municipal bodies that could clearly and completely express the position of the people.

it depends on the current situation on site. and i think this is the first question. what authorities, there donetsk and luhansk people's republics and to those who manage in the already liberated territories. but hexonian zaporizhia region - this is a question first of all , the opportunity to get a representative position of the people, but on the other hand, we receive signals that, uh, military citizens are getting and i think that you know what it is very important that even before the referendum is held or some other procedures will be carried out that will reveal this position. it is very important that today look at many regions. many enterprises of the city have already come to these regions. really start the decision process , we are talking not only about humanitarian aid. what russia has been doing

literally from the first days, a special military operation, not only humanitarian aid and assistance to the population, but we are talking about the restoration of infrastructure. that is, all the infrastructures of these territories, including zaporozhye, kherson region, which will allow people to lead a normal, normal life. that is , life, the way they lived before this conflict entered such an acute stage, and we see this, a lot of russian politicians and statesmen, leaders and regions and cities. been i know plan to visit. uh, in the donbass or in zaporozhye in kherson, so it is very important that now the restoration work. uh, this territory to establish a peaceful life. it has already begun in terms of deliveries, for example, humanitarian aid to us. here

came to the studio today, uh, the general director of the russian humanitarian mission k uh, with whom we just came to the conclusion that nowhere, in my opinion, was there anything like this in the world where the military did not have time just behind the military finish even er, all the fighting goes there. uh, humanitarian organizations are just getting started. that 's just the work, when the goal of which is to restore, uh, peaceful life, andrei alexandrovich nevertheless added one more point. you need to understand very well that i am a lawyer. yes, i am very, uh, let's say, 35 related to all legal procedures. well, first of all. the interests of people should be here, that is, legal procedures can and should be carried out, when there is an opportunity for this, when there are appropriate conditions, but to help people not only in humanitarian terms, but also to help restore the infrastructure of this territory , it is necessary to start now, and we see that

russia, with the active participation of the people who live there directly, russia is already doing this today. this is very important and i think it is in many ways we will determine how people see their own future people who live on this earth. yes, a vivid example, of course, is mariupol and other cities of donetsk in particular and the lugansk people's republic, e . after all, such a clarifying question e if desired, er and hmm administration. e these areas. a and well, respectively. if the population wishes, it is possible, here, well, at least during the summer. these procedures or something, well, or until the end of this year, of ​​course. yes, of course, yes. if we are talking directly about the registration of the entry of these territories into the russian federation, we will need many decisions at the legislative level, if in the russian federation i think that my colleagues are parliamentarians of the state duma. we have

these federations will be ready at any time to meet and take these decisions. the main thing is that we see the position of the people who live on this earth. yes, i understand, but hmm aleksandrovich, one more question. here's the one that calls. er, well, just not bewilderment. uh, if you watch how it developed from the very beginning and over the discussions that are now taking place around the world, of course, about grain and prospects. uh, its shortage in the world and the prospects for general famine on the planet. this is what they are now talking about in the un and in other e organizations and in european countries, among other things also a. uh, here the situation is estra- it is clear that it is portrayed differently there by the western side, which believes that we, uh, are doing everything possible to ensure that grain from here or there from ukraine does not get. eh, nowhere. more we say that you closed all the corridors to us. you mined all uh, all ports. ah, the black sea. you do not release those ships that already have this grain.

eh, actually loaded. well, he does everything possible to ensure that he is simply not from us. receive. here is some strange situation, despite the fact that she just leads. yes, what they are afraid of. well, you know, let's put it this way. well , firstly, i'm not an economist, i'm not going to analyze this situation in the market, but still, uh, based on what i see, many experts believe that the food crisis has many causes , many reasons, yes and this situation, which today is happening in ukraine yes, it exacerbates this crisis exacerbates, but is not its root cause. and this is the first second. and you know i after all, probably, in the first place i would put the question not about how to withdraw grain from ukraine it would probably be correct to raise the question that in general this grain should first of all

provide food for the inhabitants of ukraine ukraine eating this grain should be a guarantee that people who live in ukraine will not suffer from hunger, because we understand that in the conditions of a special military operation. perhaps not everyone will be able to sow their fields and harvest, there is an emergency, really extraordinary, and yet, probably, first of all, if the western countries, led by washington, thought, and the people who live in ukraine, they would first of all talk not about the need to withdraw grain, but about to be secured. food security of the people who live in ukraine it is the first and second thing to have seeds left so that you can grow crops when the situation stabilizes. ah, as for the position of the

russians, listen, in my opinion, the position of russia simple enough. uh, lift the sanctions and all the reasons will disappear. why is this grain so difficult to put on the world market? after all? it's simple and understandable to everyone, instead they are trying to look for some complicated workarounds, and realizing perfectly well that ukraine and the ports are undermining and, in fact, doing sabotage , they are constantly engaged in sabotage, nevertheless they continue to accuse russia of allegedly organizing this food crisis. this is absolutely not true. uh, europe is saying, lately, that russia, uh, is essentially striving to create a famine there in north africa in the middle east and they should be flooded with migrants, that is, they demand from russia that russia take part in solving european problems, which they expect while discussing the sixth and already now, in my opinion, the seventh package

of sanctions , yes, that is, europeans, of course, uh, very funny people. e, discussing one after another information packages require russia to meet, those problems, still hypothetical, that european governments. uh, expect. well there i don't know in the summer in the fall the end of the year, so here, i think this is more of a speculation. the position of the russian federation it seems to me very simple, that the sanctions are absolutely illegal sanctions that have been imposed on our country. they exacerbate the food crisis, the reasons for which they are different are rooted in the peculiarities of those features and the situation that has simply developed in the world food market. ah. it seems to me that we need to adhere to a fairly clear and understandable position here. and lift

the sanctions. remove those restrictions artificial, which harm you and do not allow you to supply grain to the world market, but still, as i said, even the food security of the people who live in ukraine should be put at the forefront so that they do not suffer from hunger and this is a problem. uh, food shortages. yes, definitely definitely. well, after all, again, if you describe this situation in simple words there, for example, you closed one road, blocked it, mined the second, and then you are surprised that it can happen. this whole story is due to the fact that food does not come along these roads. well , you are not looking for logic. uh, there is no need to release them into their actions, because russia is now to blame for everything, uh, they are trying to introduce a barrga to drastically reduce the supply of russian oil and

gas to the world market. and at the same time, they accuse moscow of being to blame for the growth in energy prices. well, therefore, there is no logic here, no need to look for it. there is simply no need to succumb to such provocations. need keep his position clearly the president has stated this position many times that russia does not prevent the export of grain, the export of grain hinders the sanctions that are absolutely illegal, which have been introduced. remove sanctions. this is what you need first. remove sanctions and those logistics channels will open that allow you to supply food to the world. well, at the same time, opportunities for negotiations are closed. uh, including not letting sergei lavrov's plane into serbia, uh, countries that are just rudeness, of course, not let not these countries, which are absolutely deprived of the opportunity to conduct their own foreign policy. it’s there, it’s not bulgaria, montenegro, or others that the hosts from washington didn’t let in; they are afraid of an open dialogue dialogue that russia is conducting with

those european countries that are ready for this dialogue . speaking not to russia, serbia, therefore, this is just rudeness and this is rudeness. i think that no . find an adequate one. yes, this is definitely the case. andrey alexandrovich will be thank you for finding time for us. andrei klishas, ​​uh, the chairman of the committee of the federation council on constitutional legislation and state building was in touch with us. but here we, uh, have just talked about the fact that in the west they don’t even want to talk about the fact that life is important, including for them food and energy resources. at the same time, the opportunity for full-fledged diplomatic communication is blocked. e, and. uh, besides the fact that, uh, what hinders, in fact, all supply routes that's all that the

european countries and the world need so much. well, they are trying to pay attention to this in european countries. in particular, hmm, the president of the italian-russian cultural association is in touch with us. e. friendship irina e. vikhoreva irina vladimirovna hello irina vladimirovna. eh, i understand correctly that there are, er, certain circles. e in european countries. here in particular. waist, but who still want to draw, uh, attention, power, those in power, or something, or public opinion, which is now based on completely different information. but such emotional nourishment that it is necessary somehow to return all this to at least a logical course. here is a demo. there was a rally recently. e in support in support of russia in support. here. well, in order to revise some of this strange course, in which, like this, andrey alexandrovich cliche with- now i said it is impossible to find logic. yes, yes, look, of course, everything is

correct. there was no demonstration in italy last saturday organized by local local movements. uh, but, frankly, minor movements of minor political weight. e sphere of italy e. these movements have been organizing demonstrations now for three months. uh, all over italy of time and tourism from those that i know, uh, which they are also directed by a lesson in russophobia and uh against italy's supply of weapons to ukraine. i repeat the movement to you of a local nature. these are not even political parties that gather a certain group of like-minded people, both average italians and among our compatriots immigrants from the former

soviet union and therefore they are numerous in their own right in the italian press. something has been written about him. uh, they showed him somewhere, they said something about him . yes, there was an event, but it was not, in fact. i will tell you. so means the greatest, well, political parties can represent the greatest force. uh, they said. hmm, the italian press only talked about one rally that was organized all over italy about, probably, a month and a half ago by the communist party. uh, italy, which supports russia and supports the donbass, and now also supports a military operation in russia, and they are against nato against the presence. e. it is necessary here in italy against the supply of e-weapons to ukraine

. the italian press once told about them, but i want to tell you that the communist party in italy has only one vote in the senate, it does not have votes in the lower house, not represented in the european union and gaining e scored 0.81% of the votes in all voters in the past. uh elections. no. well, again we return to the term invented in the west, in which now they are systematically implementing in life. it's a culture of cancellation. that is, if not, uh, nothing to write, if not to pay attention to things that, in principle, call for a certain logic in the relationship of a certain pragmatist. even that's all in general, probably, now this word has been forgotten, uh, what is it about , of course, to talk, but let's hope that , nevertheless, uh, your voice in particular will reach the

addressee. i mean in italy itself in others european countries irina vladimirovna thank you for being with us. e irina vikhoreva president of the italian cultural association. uh, friendship was in touch with us from rome. thank you all for your attention.

we are also working with those evacuated at temporary accommodation points that the international red cross has never informed the russian side about the situation of our prisoners in ukraine, despite the fact that control over how international standards are implemented with regard to ukrainian soldiers is constantly being carried out. how trucker you will supply weapons, the further we will move away from our territory the line from which neo-nazis can threaten the russian federation