there was an opinion that few people would come, but nevertheless 13.5 thousand per euro to participate in the forum more than 115 countries, representatives of 115 countries confirmed their participation at the site of the international economic forum these days and in my opinion. this already speaks of a completely different interest that e many colleagues. eh, they understand that changes are taking place in russia, and this is the country that is now attracting the attention of so many. actually, the prospect is laid down in the main topic of this forum. she sounds so new world new opportunities the main program consists of four areas, the general idea of ​​which is precisely what is happening now, global economic changes in the new conditions, are confident in the russian government. of particular importance is integration in the

eurasian space, and this time it will be given much more attention than last year? the integration of eurasian integration at this forum at this year's forum will be expressed much more strongly, because today there are much more prerequisites and incentives for this integration. i think those messages and the theses that will be heard at this forum are only the decisions that will be worked out. while on this forum. they will also have extremely important practical significance for the development of the economy of the russian federation around the world. experts draw attention to the fact that russia has a unique experience of living in crises that our country has always overcome, which we see and now logistics is gradually being established. the domestic industry is adequately responding to challenges, of course, on the form, all this will be discussed. well, more

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we continue to broadcast and now we are back on the fields petersburg international economic forum, my colleague anastasia efimova nastya joins the broadcast once again. greetings, i know that in our studio there is a first guest. yes sasha is indeed the first guest in our updated virtual studio. this is the ceo of the russian environmental operator. denis butsaev denis petrovich, please tell us first of all about the frequency reform for 3 years, how it started, there was a lot of controversy around it. about despite the fact that everyone, probably, was obviously aware of its need. what are these 3 years already managed to do. good afternoon. i would probably say that the main achievement of the reform was that it took place in its main. uh, element. we have earned regional operators - these are professional market participants who not

only export, but also process, that is, they sort out the useful fraction in most cases. they are either no longer processors directly, or, let's say, the initiators of this processing, and we now have 181 such companies throughout the country. each entity has either one or more regional operators, the second, we were finally able to make the industry, if not entirely transparent, then in its main elements, and in this regard, bringing focus in this was a very big problem. quite right. if we are not absolutely transparent, if you and i begin to remember the nineteenth year, then we did not know how much uh waste we generate, we did not know where they were and did not know where they were discharged. we have looked at this in principle. for the environmentally camouflaged field of activity in which we did not see any participants. eh, not really a thing. what they are doing at the moment we

know how many recycling facilities we have - this is 846 we know. how many polygons do we have. this is 812 we know the capacity of these landfills, and by the end of this year. we will also learn about the current state of these landfills. this is the work that we carry out together with the laters of the overflight supervision, and of the polygons with special machines that make the so-called three-dimensional model of the polygon. and this will allow us to evaluate not only the state of the landfill, including the remaining capacity. and this, in turn, will make it possible to make management decisions regarding the preservation of the activities of one or another. are you polygon that the changed economic situation will affect your work, including the introduced males. you know, no, you didn't expect, uh, our entire industry was able to replace imports quite well. at the moment, our overall level of e- localization reaches more than 80 percent in recycling processing by the end of the year. and we know. in fact, what we

does not allow reaching here until the end of the year. we will import. let's just say the missing elements in recycling, that is, processing, import dependence is somewhat higher, this is due to objective reasons, not only our unwillingness, but also the subjective division of labor in the world. we have certain locations and regions that produce this or that type of equipment in large volumes, practically quite right, but in this respect there is nothing critical for the development of the industry. we don't see. we have already found suppliers from the so-called friendly friendly or neutral countries, and they confirm in this regard. uh, as a supply opportunity. so, in fact, their technology equipment is not only not inferior, but in some cases surpasses even those, uh, in which our market existed until recently. this is the first second. we see that our industry does not actually depend on import and export operations. based on this, we have no logistical problems with everything that we form and process. this is our russian. and i would say that

financing of the industry at the moment, of course , we have made significant progress when you wanted to ask about the support measures that the development is developing and providing in relation to financial ones. uh, i'll talk about support measures a little later, but i would say that investors in this regard are showing quite a lot of interest in our industry. again, due to objective and subjective reasons to objective ones. i would say that there are not many branches that have. uh, well, let's just say such freedom, and elections in terms of the opportunity to do this or that activity and our industry in this regard are new. and these are its positive characteristics from the point of view of the possibility of investors coming. e. she is not busy markets, second. we see in this respect that the economy is not bad enough, but it develops if you create. industrially branched that is, if you do not just take out the waste, if you do not just recycle it, if you do it all in a complex, then you can achieve fairly good margins, and this too attracts large systemic players who

come into the industry, and for the second year in a row, quite a large number. waste recycling can be a very profitable business, it can be a profitable business, like any kind of activity in fact, if you are engaged in it professionally and openly. the most important thing in this respect for the long run is exactly absolutely fast money. or so-called hype money. you won't make money there unless you break the law seriously, but that's probably any uh, field of activity, let's just say about one. it's the same choice, eh, but if we're talking about the peace of support that the government has recently adopted, then they too are practically virtually unprecedented. ah, characteristic first of all, i would probably dwell on the measure that was adopted, not only in and not so much in connection with the events, but in recent months, but also with the desire to attract more funding in industry with e, capital market, e, banks and financial

institutions in december last year, and the prime minister's government signed a resolution subdividing us into providing financing with the so-called subsidized key rate, that is, a publicly legal company attracts these markets by attracting this money in the financial market. ah. we are currently registering an issue of up to 100 billion rubles. this money. we make it clear to investors that if we lend at the market rate, then even with good margins that we can show in the industry. however, we will not be able to ensure the interests of investors. based on this, the government has provided for a 90% rate subsidy, which already leads to completely different interesting figures in terms of the value of money in the current conditions, taking into account. by the reduction, which were initiated by the central bank, we can provide money to investors with a coaster of about 4%. believe me, these are probably the lowest rates possible on the market, the second is anti-crisis measures

related to the choice of river operators. now it in fact, the region has been simplified in case it is lost, the efficiency of a regional operator can be chosen from any market participant, not only as before from those who are located directly in its region, or in neighbors and the second. when the second support measure is a subsidy, interest rates on innovative projects. she was more relevant at a time when we had a very high. uh, key bet, but still for the moment. it remains relevant selection of banks by the ministry natural resources. this measure has already been launched, which will allow those investors who have already received support measures to keep the effective rate lower than it could be if it was a simple bank loan and mira support - this concerns concession forms of transactions that are not sufficiently common in our country. industry, since again i repeat, it is a long-term payback horizon, there are quite large 10-12 years.