thank you very much for another opportunity to talk with you sincerely and on business you are already at your post. it turns out 3 years, but three years, which means that you have passed the equator of your presidential term. this means that you have already seen a lot and a lot. what did you go through during this time, what was the most difficult for you? first, i am glad to see you here in our capital, andrei olegovich, indeed. we met three years ago. i was just starting my job as head of state. those 3 years were difficult not only for me, but for all the heads of state and, in the end, for the whole world,

since we experienced such upheavals associated with the turbulence of the world situation from the onset of covid for kazakhstan, these were difficult years, without any exaggeration, various kinds of disasters occurred. it can be said that in the south of the country military depots exploded, there was a very strong flooding of the southern region. yes, and the economic situation was not conducive to the great joy of covid. naturally, seriously shocked, kazakhstan as however, many countries, but we are with virtues. i think we got out of this difficult situation, of course , in answer to your question. i would like to note that the main point is the support of the people of kazakhstan without this, without the cohesion of our multinational people, of course, the desired result of the final success. it would be very difficult to achieve. the people just demonstrated their support at the recent referendum. ah, you and

the political course that you announced, here is the political reform in kazakhstan that you announced what its essence is, in your words, a referendum - this is the first step. and what will happen, the second and third fourth step, or what will happen next initially. i thought that the formula at the beginning of economics, and then politics, as it were, had exhausted its resource. although it was very useful at the initial stage in the early nineties. i realized that we need to carry out political transformations. since it was necessary to release the civic activity of people and there was a very big request from the society. i started political reforms fact of the matter back in the nineteenth year. we started drafting a law on peaceful assemblies, then uh, a 30% quota for women was introduced, parliamentary reform began, and so on. as

for the referendum, it's like a continuation. this is the company that i started with the aim of transforming the political superstructure in kazakhstan really. we must move away from the super presidential system, the so-called super presidential system. she lived up to her mission. you know, kazakhstan in the late nineties at the beginning of the 2000s made a very big leap forward in its development, but life does not stand still. reforms are needed, reforms are needed, so i considered it necessary to switch to a resident. i would say, a civilized presidential system, which is occupied by an influential parliament, the executive branch plays its role and everything is accountable to the parliament. and, of course, in front of their people, as for the parliament, the next elections to the lower house will be held according to completely new rules of 70%. this is a proportional system. the so-called party lists and a 30% majority system in single-member

districts for the first time a ridiculous system will go. no , we once had such a system, then we completely moved away from it towards a proportional system. it can be said that i am returning to the old system, but there the proportions between party members and single-modernists were several. there were far fewer single-mandate members. here, the new parliament will have 30%, which is a lot. and, of course, it will be necessary to change some laws related to the activities of the parliament. this a lot of work, believing that we will cope with it by the end of the year, as for the head of state, i made a decision and in the future it will apparently be such a practice that there is no need to make the president into any. party, that is, at the moment i am completely without sports and in addition, a norm relevant for our country has been introduced related to close relatives of the president, who, according to the new constitution. it can be said that he has no right to hold positions in the state system

service and engage in legislative and hold leadership positions in the kvass public sector. that is, state-owned companies are not dangerous. it is in asia so to take and share power with the parliament of a strong parliament, which means, and some decrease in the president's influence on political life in the country. i would not say. i think it's more about strengthening checks and balances. that is, thinking that this is the correct system. the fact is that civil society in kazakhstan is a mature demand for this particular system . quite large as regards the transition to a parliamentary system. for what? calls for some activists and observers in the west, of course, this system. i didn't promise the people. i believe that it is, so to speak, inadequate for our country, and, moreover, it will be very difficult in geopolitical conditions for a presidential republican republic, but

with a strong parliament and with an accountable government, among other things, this formula is a strong president, an influential parliament and an accountable government. i put forward even before coming to office the president now has a completely new concept of new kazakhstan, the second republic. and what is the point in these new political realities. and why do you think kazakhstan should say goodbye completely? here today to discard tomorrow these without it. and what should kazakhstan gain now? should we completely say goodbye to the oligopoly from the oligarchic system, whether in the economy or in politics, we should move away from favoritism when distributing the so -called lak from pieces of the economy, all this was, we openly talk about it in the country should be social justice, of course, i'm not utopian or visionary. i understand that this is the work of not a single day, not a single month and not a single year, but this must be strived for, because people want

justice in everything, both big and small, my task, as the head of state, is to ensure this justice for the citizens of our country. in the end, no one was born, so to speak, by a fate that provides precisely the lowest place in the social hierarchy. everyone must be equal. in any case, the so-called social elevator must work. we must select people who are very capable and patriotic for government positions for various posts in national state companies. the same applies to the election of deputies, of course, as the head of state, and they cannot directly influence the outcome of parliamentary elections. my task is to create such a political atmosphere in which people worthy of ability could find their place in our society, and could optimistically look into the future, and people who have just been born have grown up and are entering, so to speak, into

youthful maturity. one might think that they have a future in this country and still have a future, like because of chewing gum or very, if one of the goals of the second republic is justice, then, for example, will it be fair. and why take it away and share it, is it possible to find some new injustice in the search for a new justice, of course , such a danger exists. i understand very well the background of your question, nevertheless, i created a commission that deals with the return of state ownership of those assets that were illegally privatized at one time. and such assets are returned to the fold, the state. there is no business here. it is absolutely far from the thought of taking away and dividing everything that was done legally. and even more so if large companies, as well as an average company, work. uh, in full compliance with our laws, of course, no ex-enterprise. it cannot be that this will give rise to social instability in our

society, but at the same time, because people see in us the economy may not be as big as in other countries, in particular in russia. we see perfectly well what was done fairly. and what was done contrary to the law, so this task. i consider it very important. it is being gradually implemented . in addition, i have created an interdepartmental commission for the return of illegally exported funds and assets abroad. i understand, again, that this cannot be done within one or two days. it may take years, but this work needs to be done, because indeed such assets. they go abroad contrary to the law and they must find their rightful owner, and according to the laws, the people are the owner according to our constitution, and the state manages all assets on behalf of the people. naturally, being accountable to parliament and all the people. in this case, how can one explain such a rather serious

large number of foreign owners in the subsoil use of kazakhstan if the kazakh people are the owner of these subsoils? the fact is that in the early nineties. um, maybe there's no other way. there were no funds in kazakhstan for the privatization of large assets, at that time there was no kazakhstan incognito for the foreign investment community, so the government in those years was forced to invite foreign investors who were the first to come to our market. these were the americans, the chevron company, which privatized. well, together with the state. naturally, the largest deposits. in the west of our country. the oilmen call this place of birth a diamond. eh, the crown of kazakhstan and of course, it should be noted. it is true that americans work quite successfully, but the very terms of that agreement were signed in accordance with the understanding of the investment agreements of that period of time.