such a rather serious large number of foreign owners in the subsoil use of kazakhstan can be explained if the kazakh people are the owner of these subsoils. the fact is that in the early nineties, uh, perhaps there was no other way out , since there were no funds in kazakhstan for the privatization of large assets, uh, c. at that time , kazakhstan was incognito for the foreign investment community, so the government in those years was forced to invite foreign investors who were the first to come to our market. this were the americans the chevron company, which privatized. well, along with the state. naturally, the largest deposits. in the west of our country. this field is called by the oilmen the diamond in the crown of kazakhstan and. of course it should be noted. it is true that the americans are working quite successfully, but the very terms of that agreement were signed in accordance with the understanding of the investment agreements of that period of time. and

i know that in russia the so -called loans-for-shares auctions have gone differently, but i must say frankly that this system is not entirely justified and on the fidelity of the position of today. and these agreements do not look as adequate, of course, as the production sharing agreement. everything today looks like we once gave away our bowels for beads from a mirror. you see, 30 years ago there was one understanding and we rejoiced at the arrival of the largest foreign companies in our economy. i repeat kazakhstan was a terrenka, there were no laws on attracting foreign investment, and at that time the production sharing agreement really turned out to be quite acceptable, but now it needs to be changed the rules of the game, of course, would be absolutely unnatural. i would say, perhaps even absurd from the point of view of the long-term interests of our country. but there must certainly be some kind of correction, and we are carefully doing this now, returning to loans-for-shares auctions. after all, they are also the largest. russian assets

actually went free of charge to specific individuals, probably from today's position. i tell you that the agreement also looks not quite right between kazakhstan and russia, there is an agreement on eternal friendship, which, by the way, is 30 years old turned this year, when we are talking about the new kazakhstan today, does it mean that the new kazakhstan will inherit from the old kazakhstan all the guarantees of mutual guarantees that were received with russia around the treaty, and friendship, that is, for you personally, russia this is that being a deputy minister foreign affairs, i was engaged in the preparation of this very important agreement literally on articles. we are with russian colleagues. uh, they sat and wrote the text. e contracts. it was of great importance in terms of giving the appropriate impulse . development of cooperation. moreover, multifaceted cooperation between our states. then this treaty was replaced by for the treaty on

allied relations between our countries, it was signed in 2013 in yekaterinburg but returning to the first treaty of 1992. i want to note its enormous historical significance and would like to take this opportunity to underline that the continuity of friendship and alliance between our countries is precisely the continuity that is preserved in full. in any case, as head of state, i will do every possible way to preserve truly friendly relations between our countries, of course, the situation in the world is complicated. it is constantly changing , what is happening now 30 years ago, it was impossible to imagine back, but the world does not stand still, but it seems to me that friendship between our countries, all the more so, does not divide us, but unites us. the longest land border in the world, this friendship should be absolutely permanent, one might say eternal, half a year has passed since the tragic january after the mess

in alma-ata. and i know that the investigation is in full swing. uh, the reasons for what happened and the main participants. it has already become clear to you personally what was the mechanism, what was the detonator, what was the driving belts for the riots that occurred in almaty, we clearly proceed from the position that it was an attempted coup d'etat, an attack on the state system of kazakhstan. also, the attempt to remove the head of state from his post, the situation itself was well orchestrated by experienced professionals. they led people to administrative publications. it must be said that during these tragic events, about 3,000 weapons were stolen, and only to this day, approximately 1,600 weapons have been found, that is, the search for the remaining 19 weapons is still in hand. perhaps it was

moved abroad, but as a result it continues. it is proceeding rather scrupulously, but at the same time with great difficulties. the fact is that the organizers and coordinators of these events behaved. so professional that they managed to bring it in. eh, very important trails that could lead to big revelations are nonetheless interagency ad hoc, and the group is working hard. we need to reveal all the details. this and the coup attempts are just a small fact, a special group was engaged in destroying all cameras, surveillance, of which there were many in almaty , and they did this . people were subjected to very sophisticated. i would say the torture of doctors suffered ordinary citizens there were a lot of looters who came from the big markets bazaars. not to

mention that two main administrative buildings were burned down. this is the akimat of almaty and the presidential residence. moreover, the presidential residence is no longer subject to restoration. there will be just a park, i made such a decision, that is , one should not simplify the events that took place in almaty e, all the more so, turning those who were engaged in murders into robberies and actually opposed government devices, turn these people into national heroes. the more they cost, but, nevertheless , we show mercy in necessary cases, we release people from according to the requests of their relatives, but criminal cases. naturally , only 26 people are starting now, but they received real terms. all other things. it is in production and that is, the scale of the tragedy is large and, of course, within a short period of time it is rather difficult to deal with all this. there is information that they even stole the bodies of

dead militants from the brains. yes, yes, these facts are now being investigated, but this is a professional handwriting of those who are engaged in this kind of attacks on the state, but i especially feel sorry for the young, military personnel who were simply beaten to death, divided to the goal and used as human shields in attacks on administrative institutions. i feel very sorry for our police officers who showed up. well, in general, calmness and tolerance towards the so -called demonstrators. indeed in the early days. these were peaceful people, but then they were replaced completely different people came. these gangsters are terrorists in their essence and a lot of policemen suffered, of course, even after the initiative passed to the side of law enforcement agencies. naturally, they could restrain themselves from indignation, but we corrected them by those policemen who, frankly, violated our law, used extra cruel means in

investigating certain events those tragic days. they were brought to justice. that is, and there should be justice here, that is, well, in fact, you should were curtailed, that is, removed from the presidential post, or even arrested, probably, yes, what they dreamed of, that is, what was the goal of all their coups, uh, is the coming to power of completely different people, as for me, then i have been here all these days in the building of the residence. uh, the president didn’t go anywhere. moreover, i naturally started here and from the very beginning i stated that i was not going to leave the capital, all the more plane and leave kazakhstan, i naturally. by no means did i plan to. i thought that i should be here until the end. how has your attitude towards interstate structures changed over these 3 years, which includes both kazakhstan and russia

, this is, of course, the csto, and the eaeu, the shanghai cooperation organization, the weight has increased or decreased. i believe that these organizations, integration associations, are developing quite progressively normally. kazakhstan is committed to its activities in these integration accusations, and all the talk that kazakhstan has allegedly cooled off, and even more so that it is going to withdraw from the eurasian economic union from the organizations of the collective security treaty, is absolutely not true, as for the battery. i spoke in moscow about the fact that for the first time in 30 years the battery in some way it manifested itself by sending a limited contingent to kazakhstan, and i emphasize not russia but. the organization of the collective security treaty in russia, some people misrepresent this whole situation, claiming that this russia saved kazakhstan and kazakhstan must now

forever serve and bow at the feet of russia i think that this is completely unjustified reasoning, it can be said that it is the organization of a collective security treaty, where kazakhstan is an active participant, that is far from reality. and after all , earlier this organization was engaged in, e, carrying out the signing of declarations of statements there, that is, the organization proved to be quite effective. i consider it on the other hand and politicize this whole situation in no case it is impossible, and even more so, he expresses various kinds of surviving fictions, therefore, on occasion, the more we agreed from the very beginning that the contingent would not participate in forceful actions, the team really did not fire a single shot from the limited contingent, the organization of the collective security treaty, and they are here. went with her for over 10 days. that is, it was a demonstration of our unity in that very difficult situation. as for the eurasian economic union, this is a very important

organization. in my opinion. already in bishkek, at a meeting of the economic forum, i spoke about integration, that this is a very difficult job that requires mutual compromises. after all, each country considers it necessary to defend its position. this is fine. and if this or that country constantly concedes and the economy of this country suffers, then, naturally, questions will arise from the citizens of this country. what's the use anyway? this is integration and such issues. frankly, sometimes there are in our country that is why our representatives of the eurasian economic union yes, they quite stubbornly defend or, in any case, explain our interests among colleagues, yes, there are disputes, but why dramatize them? is that normal? e within the framework of an international organization i believe that in the end we come to the necessary decisions and useful decisions that benefit the interests of our states sanctions that the west has now introduced relations with

russia how do they, according to your observations, according to statistics , affect the economy of kazakhstan and when next , are there any plans. for example, kazakhstan, without violating sanctions, somehow helps russia get out of complex economic knots related to supplies, goods, and so on, as your opposition during my telephone negotiations and face-to-face meetings with vladimir vladimirovich putin that all agreements related to economic cooperation between our countries remain as well in force. we will continue to work, kazakhstan will by no means renounce its allied obligations. this would be wrong. it would be in the end unjustified. uh, in terms of perspective, because i'm sure that russia will cope with the current difficulties. it is a large country with a fairly large economy, and russia. as uh shows, the experience of the past works very well

precisely in extreme situations. it's true, so uh, there's no doubt about it, but sanctions are sanctions, we shouldn't break them. moreover , we receive notification that in case of violation of the sanctions, so -called secondary sanctions will follow from the west against our economy. eh, that is, it goes very difficult delicate work, which i could call the passage between the scylla and the charybrids, but emphasizing we continue to work with the russian government. i would say in an accelerated rhythm, and we reach the necessary agreements without violating sanctions, while the sanctions are complex issues that require time to understand. how can one resolve this or that situation that has arisen, but again , we find a solution to these issues. but the situation is unique, no one could expect that we would live in this particular reality, but it exists, so we have to deal with these issues that come from this reality. hmm we'll manage

absolutely i'm sure of this with my husband. tell me , what is the real situation of the russian language in kazakhstan now, for example, some sources assure that in recent years, over the past three years, and there have been more russian schools in kazakhstan, others speak, on the contrary, it was in these 3 years that they became less, but of course, all this speaks of expansion or contraction of e-e use, and the russian language in kazakhstan is now those who claim that the position the russian language in kazakhstan has been reduced, narrowed, and even more so, they have become educational very much against the truth. this is all reasoning from the evil one for the purpose of politicization. but why is this being done? this is a different issue. i, in principle, know the answer to it, but now this is not the subject of our conversation. in general, the position of the russian language in kazakhstan has not undergone

any, but deterioration. i am sure of this, as for the number of schools where education is in russian, they, of course, have remained with the previous volume is another matter. and it's a reality that there is an increasing demand for education in the kazakh language. this must also be taken into account. in the end, kazakhstan is in the very name, and our state sounds the name kazakh. that is. we must ensure the interests of those people who want to learn the kazakh language, donate their ideas to kazakh kindergartens, and it seems to me that absolutely everything is clear to kazakh schools. we have a clear understanding that without the russian language. and of course, it will be very difficult for the kazakhs. well geographical i already mentioned that we have we are the longest border in the world as they say, neighbors are given by god and kazakhs need to be fluent in russian, but at the same time know their own language, how is our rapprochement in general, cooperation between

russia and kazakhstan in the field of science, culture and education. i believe that there are no problems here, as far as education is concerned , i am very attentive to this area and pay great attention. why because education has a huge role? well, these are, as it were , axioms, but we must remember it. every day i came up with an initiative for russian technical universities to open their branches. in kazakhstan, this process has begun, that is, the mission has opened its branch at the kazakh state university, a branch of the university of oil and gas named after gubkin is opening, and i think this process will continue, because. i believe that modern kazakh youth should receive , first of all, technical education in order to be competitive, but we still have opportunities. uh, the direction of talented youth, along the line, bolash programs are the future abroad, in particular, these are undergraduates and even bachelors, but we are narrowing

the bachelor's program and increasing the number of masters in the best universities in the world. you are not leaving the balloon system yet. you know, i was once very skeptical about the bologna system when we entered into it. i worked as the chairman of the senate and warned the then government that you were not in a hurry, you were with this bologna process. and at that time our entry into this system was framed as a great national achievement. almost a holiday, but in fact there are a lot of shortcomings. and i saw those shortcomings. i spoke with many foreign experts who said that you know this medal has two sides, in principle, i understand the decision of the russian government. leaving the balance system, but you need to understand that there will be consequences. you yourself are markemelevich. what do you think, and in what way are russian kazakhs very similar, and in what way are they different from each other, and in general, when we are

together our strength, what is the strength, in truth, one the hero of a famous film, in fact, i believe that russian kazakhs should be together. i once spoke recently at the bishkek economic forum and said that the eurasians, and we all the eurasians should stick together, by the way, i said this phrase. eh, many years. there, back there, there was a notorious political character who led the soviet union for 32 years and spoke russian with a well-known caucasian accent, so it’s true, then i was accused of being a fan of this character. on really. i am not a colonel. we are, after all, in her asia and must stick together. i am her in this my deep conviction from this we will not lose. we will benefit from this. all of us are still more similar or different mentality the way of thinking is similar, and this must be borne in mind,

thank you. i wish you success in your further political reforms. thank you very much for this interview. we continue the informational picture the russian embassy of great britain called on the authorities of the country to be deliveries of weapons to ukraine, the statement of the diplomatic mission says that the british authorities should be responsible for sending weapons to kiev, which are used to strike civilian targets in the donbass , now in direct contact with the studio is there a reaction from official london to this statement and, in your opinion, will this be a reason to stop the supply of such weapons? official reaction from london i didn't notice. in general, the campaign continues here in order to, uh, describe everything that happens there exclusively from the point of view of kiev, so the shelling of donetsk is a

really monstrous event that happened yesterday and the day before yesterday. and here it is hushed up. here, but we believe that it is necessary to draw attention to the fort that is supplying weapons that are taking place, namely, long-range artillery, and, uh, kiev is now calling to increase them as much as possible, as well as affix missile weapons. uh, large enough for those of these fighting ranges, they are used to deliberately shelling and killing civilians in living quarters. and this, in general, such intentional aiming of this is a war crime. and, of course. eh, it's time to realize. uh, to supply these long-range weapons for peaceful use. the division needs to be held accountable for this. well, that is, in fact, as stated in the statement, you are faced with those that your face the fact that your appeal, but the actual projection into deaf ears. yes, to

quote, but not quite so without a doubt, we have , uh, our tweets, our statements, followed by a large audience. we really have a lot of users in all our social networks. uh, those people are reacting to this case. it happens to be another matter of the official authorities of the official authorities adhere to the line that a in general was the name taken earlier this pumping. kyiv weapons. today there is a new meeting under the leadership of e us secretary of defense who gathers a large number of countries there. it is clear that the vast majority of them will act as extras, but it can be expected without a doubt that there will be promises made to deliver more to kiev. uh, installations of e missile systems. now they were generally scheduled. put 7, as i understand it, the americans promised more. well, probably the british will not lag behind , they will go to the kelevator, they will go to the kelevator. these calls from washington, andrei vladimirovich, another topic of the russian foreign ministry, as we know, introduced sanctions a list of 49 british citizens, including

representatives of the media sphere. uh, as stated in the foreign ministry? i will even quote the british journalists included in the list, involved in the deliberate dissemination of false and one-sided information about russia and events in ukraine in the donbass, and today boris johnson expressed support for these journalists from the military sphere, who also fell under the restriction. how do you assess this statement by the prime minister of great britain and what kind of support might this be? well i think it is verbal support, no more. and here, practically all the journalists included in the list have made one or another statement that they will continue to cover. that's what they will continue to cover, they will cover the one-sided position that kiev dictates to them. well, for example, today's article in the telegraph dedicated to the events in northern donetsk. it is all made up of quotes from the fluent, but the head of the administration. yes, a few ideas that it very much goes on to describe that the fights are going on in the center of the city. so that's even and what else there will be uh, there, uh, counterattacks and so on. although

, in general, everyone is fine, they don’t know here that for a long time the north, donetsk is under the control of the allied forces, that the encirclement is going on, uh, in the industrial zone, and so on. these facts do not reach them, but the proposal of a humanitarian corridor. not a word nothing well, you think that this is completely one-sided and continue in the same spirit describes , uh, hypothetical events that, under the dictation of kiev, in fact and its representatives, of course, for this uh, well, i can’t tell you journalists, not all of them punish was, but they are offended. why, they wo n't be allowed to uh visit the russian federation anymore . if it is normal, but work and really give objective information. although i noticed here that in the united states, as they say now, much more began to appear. uh, some information about more truthful in this regard, which is covered not only from the kiev point of view, but in general more realistic. a look at things that are happening now

andrey vladimirovich in donbass, what is the reaction of great britain to the death sentence in the dpr by two mercenaries who are citizens of the united kingdom, and are there any steps from official london, maybe someone contacted you on this issue, no e line is taken here, uh, exclusively on the one, well, in general, it is clear that if the line here is to make contact, or hmm, with the authorities that passed this sentence, this will mean. recognition of the donetsk luhansk republic and here, of course, they do not recognize here, nor the jurisdiction continues to derisive different names to actually consume in relation to these republics, it is considered something that the court is unlawfully unfair. well, a lot, and other epithets, and at the same time, they are, uh, the british of official britain are not ready to turn to the russian federation, because then it will become a matter of bilateral relations, which people are now trying to avoid as much as possible, but a plus. uh, some low-skilled legal experts begin to argue combatants are not combatants, but here, but

under judges, we are not arraigned, they are, what are the laws of war in relation to those acting like this, but the situation, it is not quite, clear indeed. one of them, one of the convicts had dual citizenship. these are two passports, the other is purely british, for example, so how can we judge here, but the court nevertheless issued its decision and further these claims are in its usb and uh, how will it develop further? let's see, e london has been instructed to deal viciously with this kiev and that kiev should be engaged in this. let's call. what are these will be doing? tell me, regarding the immediate situation of great britain , does russophobia continue in the united kingdom? we talked about this some time ago during our conversation and whether there is now an appeal from citizens to the embassy on these issues, well, british russophobia has been for many, many years. this is probably, in general, more than one century will come. it just faded away sometimes. sometimes she sees off about being reborn again, but recently this

odessual has been actively manifested. and now its actual manifestation. i see in that row enterprises, there is cooperation even with the embassy, ​​let's say, but it affects serving russian-speaking citizens, but these cases, uh, are not widespread. i must say the appeal of citizens is household. well, on the other hand. we recently held a congress of compatriots. here is a small one, where it was stated that in the case of this, after all, single englishmen are used to living. e in conditions. e, when they face conflicts, and when people of one or conflicts live with them, and here, as i noticed, for example, on household level, they themselves are trying to adjust all this so that they do not go beyond the general printer frame. andrey vladimirovich i thank you for your comments. thank you for taking part in the live broadcast. let me remind you that at my studio there was an extremely and plenipotentiary ambassador of russia to great britain and northern ireland andrey years.

and now, a live broadcast from the st. petersburg economic forum, where a plenary session is being held on a new strategy for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. well , dear colleagues, let's start our work. kind evening. our task today is to sum up the results of a very eventful day that was today. and now, if we talk about my personal impressions. it seemed to me that we have a-a. compared to last year, in addition to the topic of supporting small

and medium-sized businesses, a new referent has appeared, connected not only with how the state can help small and medium-sized businesses. well, about how business entrepreneurs can help today, and economies, how they can fill in the niches that have fallen out, how they can fill up the supply, how they can build in the supply chain that stopped working and it was about advancing development, and small and medium, but we have and in my opinion. this is also an important thing, because over the past fifteen years. we rather have the share of the private sector in our gdp, but it was declining and now we are talking about advanced development - this is also a new emphasis. well, about this, how to make the economy grow with business entrepreneurs.

today we will talk with our participants, i will introduce them andrey belousov first deputy chairman of the government of russia alexander kalinin president of support of russia alexander deryabin founder of the robopolygon project nikolai dunaev chairman of the board of the siberian export import company larisa kuzmina chairman of the council of the orenburg pukhovnitsy consumer cooperative andrey nikitin governor of the novgorod region veronika nikishina director general of the russian export center vasily smokov first deputy minister of industry nikolai solodovnikov, founder of the online platform investment evgenia chavkina director of the united nations motto of the groups and the hall participate in discussions sergey borisov

chairman of the board of trustees of the support of russia elena dybova vice president of the chamber of commerce and industry of russia and alexander isaevich general director chairman of the board of the sme corporation. my name is vladimir kasimov, i am the executive director of the interfax group and i beg everyone. e participants in the session to observe today, a-a time limit and moving on to our main agenda. eh, actually. in our session description, the session says about the new economic policy such very. words that have many connotations, because we can remember from our history, how once the new economic policy saved the economy, however, it probably did not last long, as we remember from history. well, here's what is needed for today's small and medium-sized businesses to play a decisive role in transforming the economy. you are just a substitute in

employment support. i want to ask alexander sergeevich kalin, president of the support sergeevich, to give you the floor. i know you'll have a presentation that we'll ask you to download. good afternoon dear colleagues. small and medium businesses, they are always the first to take a hit when markets change when external conditions change, they work in any economic crisis, of course, they have to quickly adapt to switch to other formats of work, they do not have such a margin of safety as large businesses, but on the other hand, it is much more flexible and mobile, and this also has a great competitive advantage for small businesses over the past 2 years during the pandemic. they were very

difficult for small businesses, but on the other hand hand when we are faced with these limitations in the work. we were able to develop together, and with the government of the russian federation, the central bank with the government and regions , formats for responding to complex challenges. operational headquarters also worked at the government level, just andrei ilyevich. belousov heads it, such headquarters were created in each region, the governors were immersed in this work and, uh, those measures to support business during the covid period. they worked. you know that russia has even passed. these covid restrictions are much more successful than for example, many western countries. small businesses are now facing new challenges. it is necessary to keep the company employed, rebuild logistics, find new markets, find sources of financing that would fit economic models. and this experience that we

gained during the pandemic has come in handy literally since march. on the site and the government of the russian federation and the federal assembly of the russian federation, and some of the measures that the business offered, they were implemented in 4 days, and 4 days from the proposal of the measure before the adoption of the law in three readings and its approval by the council of the federation of such a pace of adoption, and there were no support measures, but in recent russian history. i will remind you what was done on the business proposal and supported by the government of the russian federation at that time. well, the main task, of course, was to ensure maximum freedom of economic activity to ensure smooth operation. enable business. find balance points reboot your operating financial

activity. and uh there was a moratorium on scheduled inspections on unscheduled inspections. let me remind you that if we compare, for example, the number of inspections with last year, then for 5 months of this year the number of planned activities fell five times more than that, more than half of these inspections are advisory in nature. and two and a half million licenses were automatically renewed. this saved at least 100 billion. and if not more for small businesses, in addition, the regulatory block of the government introduced feedback. now the government sees online every day where what checks are being carried out. what complaints do they have and measures are taken promptly. and the second was a big question - these are

financial resources. financial resources after the cost of e-financing was sharply raised by the central bank, businesses had to solve extraordinary problems on how to survive how to reduce, er, the enterprise into profitability. how to save their workforces technology, and at that time the program was adopted by the government and the bank of russia on lending, and small businesses in the amount of more than a trillion rubles. let me remind you that there are four main programs. e. the first is the program of the bank of russia on revolving lending, this program is lending for investment purposes of the bank of russia together with the ministry of economic development with the sme corporation. umbrella guarantors of the sme corporation, rub 30 million today, nowhere. you don't have to go to the bank, the guarantee is given by the corporation along with the web and people.

they receive this money with the minimum possible security. well, and, finally, the program of the ministry of economic development 1764. this made it possible to keep lending during this difficult period at the level of fifteen percent thirteen and a half percent for medium-sized businesses. everyone who really had problems with servicing loans had the opportunity to restructure loans to receive the so-called loan holidays for more than 600 billion. banks approved the restructuring of the deferral of loans and the degree, and the satisfaction of applications was 90%. for this, of course, a special thank you. uh, the fact that development institutions and banks have worked as one team. i know that they they lost money on this, but i assure you. this will all come back now, for example, and small

business lending is one of the growing segments. even now the banks here won't let me lie. ah, finally, if we talk about the tax sphere, an unprecedented decision to defer until the end of the year on insurance premiums 1.5 trillion rubles remained with small medium-sized businesses. until the end of the year, and this is much better than a loan, even a soft loan, because in fact you transfer your obligations for manufacturing enterprises for a year for small medium-sized businesses for more than six months. ah, in addition, you know that there was a six-month deferral under the simplified taxation system, and, in addition, the penalty was reduced for tax arrears, and also means no action in the plan until july 1. there bankruptcy, the federal tax service does not apply to those who

have faced. uh, with a temporary inability to service your tax obligations. in order to support import. here we have, uh, we developed a large package together with the russian export center. this, of course, is a reduction in duties on trillion import duties were reduced by a trillion. but this, by the way, is not only business, it is primarily we who have benefited from this as consumers of russia, that is, for socially important goods for investment goods. now we will be able to buy these goods much cheaper, uh, in and uh, that means customs clearance for absolutely uh, parallel imports were allowed by other customs pushkins. here we believe that for small businesses this measure should be developed and encouraged, because in fact this smoke-monopolization, and external economic import activities. and already, by the way, this

import has already earned tens of thousands. or maybe hundreds of thousands. we do not yet have statistics for june of goods imported by parallel imports. first of all, these are vehicles, equipment, mechanical devices, and, by the way, this is also cosmetics for our beloved women. and the technological equipment sector e high-tech manufacturing industry first of all got the opportunity. uh, through smes, the bank gets loans at 3%. this program is only started. we are watching her with interest. and we think it's right. we have been talking about this for a long time, that not only large businesses can receive industrial development funds through the fdp, but it is also necessary for small businesses. and we have a technology business grants have also been increased capitalized development

and innovation fund and uh hmm in addition, importers. now they can receive loans for deliveries of 30% of the key rate of the central bank plus 3% of a point, if translated into today's language. this is somewhere around 6.5% per annum you can get, and loans for imports. on it already allocated about 40 billion rubles. and an important topic that is now being dealt with, for example, by the ministry of industry, is the decapitation of industry funds. my colleagues will say more about this, and the fact that now the sme corporation is engaged in it has begun to closely deal with such issues as preferential leasing within the framework of the whole country about this. i think, also my colleagues, who work in this area in detail, but will stop at our proposals. well , what do we see as a result. these measures are, uh,

diregulatory. these are the tax sphere, the consumer market, the financial sphere. more important this system, of course, of public and corporate procurement, the government allowed up to 90% to make prepayments, obliged the state corporation to pay within 7 days, and we are waiting for the adoption, and the law on offset contracts 100 million rubles. this will allow investing under the obligation of the region to buy products in new production of small medium-sized businesses this set of measures. it is complemented. it is constantly supplemented and headquarters in the government is held regularly and at the regional level. e with the governors. here's what we see, and hmm despite the unprecedented pressure, but on the russian economy we see that

there has not been a big recession, but in small business. here i’ll just give you statistics, i’ll give you statistics, firstly, a year the number of entities increased by 100 per 200,000 enterprises from 5.8 million to 6 million. and the number of newly created entities over these 5 months is 18% higher than in may, uh, the last may of last year, the revenue from ccp, again, is the statistics of a colleague. i know that different situations in industries, that structural e, changes in the economy have just begun, but nevertheless, revenue e entities in march year-on-year increased by 27%, understandable. it was a rush demand in april for seven in may for 18, that is, and thanks to the joint work. i stressed the constant feedback from business to business associations of development institutions of regional governments the government of the russian

federation managed to prevent the central bank. a-a economic decline in significant indicators and conditions in the work of small medium-sized businesses. i know that now primarily small business is appealing. what do we need, the main thing now is to support consumer demand. the president proposed to the government to increase e, support for families, and salaries in the public sector were indexed. and this is serious money allocated to him. there's almost a trillion and that money. now they have already begun to return to the consumer market. it is imperative to support investment demand, and here is one of the meetings, which took place an additional one and a half trillion. over the course of 2 years, the road sector was allocated. these capitalists are also a catalyst for the development of small businesses that are primarily focused on production. and of course the question

this is strengthening the deepening of infrastructure development. infrastructures of modern infrastructure and not only about parks, technology parks - this means new hotels and connections to networks. uh, this also needs to move, what we see, uh in recent years you see, well, except for the twentieth year, first and the contribution of small businesses. gross domestic product we see that in absolute figures in the eighteenth in the nineteenth year, together with the economy, which grew there by 13 by 5 by 5%, grew in gross domestic product, which small business produces 1.5 trillion a year we have been growing. yes, in the twentieth year. we didn't work for a month and a half . we saw almost a trillion. in absolute terms, the contribution of small businesses has fallen, but

this is understandable. why is this understandable, why, but look, we are now waiting for the data for 21 years. look at the gross domestic product of russia grew in the twenty- first year an unprecedented figure of 22% from 17.0 to 131 trillion, it is clear that this is to some extent a rebound. but this is no longer a rebound. it 's exactly the economic growth that's interesting when we get at the beginning of next year, how much the small business has grown. well, let's see in absolute terms. it will definitely grow and will definitely exceed the figures of the nineteenth year. we see that we see that what has changed even in small business. if we compare the 20th year and the 21st year, there was a lot of controversy, whether it is necessary to reduce analogues for small businesses and contributions, so the figure for the contribution

of small businesses in the 21st year to social and tax funds at all levels for all taxes increased by almost one and a half trillion rubles in year. that is, small business annually pays almost 1.5 trillion rubles to the budgets of the russian federation. more than this means that we take a responsible approach to the development of our business in our country. we are investing money, including in the provision of public places for road construction, but if this happens, it will be due to economic growth due to the growth of whitewashing business, then we believe that if we are now talking about a greater role for small businesses. we have the right to raise the question of whether the financing of national projects of the development program should be increased from taking into account the priorities that the government will work out together , the business association of business,

development institutions. well, uh, that's why we believe that we have the right to raise the question that next year funding for national projects and state programs that relate to smes will be increased. we have grown, we pay to the budgets almost 1.5 trillion more annually than before. let's do a re-orientation next year and put the funds to the things that together we think are key. in particular , uh, you need to launch a new investment model, you need to ensure that investment projects of small businesses, a maximum of 5% are credited. and it is real already now, for example. uh, the corporation of moscow a number of regions signed an agreement there, the moscow region, udmurtia moscow where co -financing the interest rate. you can get loans at six and a half percent. these are the new products. this means that it is possible, it means that now it is possible to make even 5% an investment model.

it will unwind, plus we, for example, have a project finance factory that the web creates there with an sme bank with a corporation, but the threshold is 3 billion. let's lower it to 500 million . here are the principles of non- discrimination against smes, the principle is first to think small crc of all levels of government to ensure an enabling environment for smes. uh, after all, the structural transformation m-m will pass the question anyway. only we will help her with this structural transformation, or not. that's where we see, uh, new sources of employment. well of course it is agriculture with such and such a demand for food in the world farming household plots if we talk about new sources of employment in small businesses, well, of

course, these are new formats of non-stationary mobile trade of consumer cooperation. uh, if we talk about new sources of employment, uh, this, of course, is 5 million self-employed. there will be 10 of them already self-employed, but we need to see what is there, maybe they can get additional help. although there is already a dynamic that no one believed, that in 3 years we will have 5 million self-employed. and here is one of such significant issues - these are industry priorities at one time, then sergey rinatovich, borisov just promoted this topic with the government of the russian federation in 2008, a government decree was adopted that empowers the ministry with sectoral powers to develop smes. and they also have these powers on the basis of the decree of the government and the crc on the development of smes in the sectoral ministries. this is what we see now, the ministry of industry and trade has an understanding . how will small, medium

business, there is an understanding, uh, for example, of course , the ministry of economic development has where the points of growth for small and medium-sized enterprises, and business has an understanding of the ministry of agriculture, there are entire programs, but let's ask ourselves a question. where is the understanding? let's say if understanding is in the ministry of transport, and 10% of smes work in logistics, where is the understanding of energy? here the ministry of energy is now raising the question that for import substitution parallel protection for transformers for cells a-a, but, do they have such a program ? other sectors of the ministry of health, where the share of e health care enterprises and how they see this development is not there either, therefore, but there is a basis for this. let the branch ministries also take care of these conditions. we have support for such proposals. there is an offer from other business associations. what to do? industry

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and in communication with the bank, to package the investment project with a regional bank that does not have corporate information systems, we will transfer and also become, and the ultimate goal is also within the framework of the corporation itself. increasing the number of recipients of support in the regions is a separate direction of our transformation by the board of directors of the corporation. this decision has been made, we have started the restart of our leasing companies in order to increase the volume of leasing by five times in the twenty-fifth year . support during the trip to the regions from entrepreneurs. this is one of the key requests. including preferential leasing, and it is important that in addition to increasing volumes, the next thing we see is a decrease in the number of documents and the quality

of service provision, because today . in my opinion. they are not entirely acceptable and finally, the next most important area of ​​work for the entire corporation. this is actually improving the quality of the rehabilitation environment for business through regular communication to the floor. feedback here it is important, of course, not to convert. it's all in a kind of bureaucratic football. we are retraining ourselves. so from our colleagues in order to speak the same language with the entrepreneur, we have made an appropriate service. it is called 360 starting from the month of december. we have received over 2.000 to 2.500 hits. at the same time, we do not limit entrepreneurs in any way. he can now submit through a digital platform. he can apply through messengers. and uh, the point of this is to identify as systemic problems. in fact, decide exactly based on the feedback here. i would probably like to say separately. thanks andrey romych last year, and he supported and helped to realize. in my opinion. one of the key bills. this is an explanation of the changes in the current code of administrative

offenses, which made four changes that work together. this is also possible from april of this year. he is already working. first key in my opinion. it's a right to make a mistake, because the business needs to run the business they know. unfortunately for all the current requirements that his they are waiting, the second we halved the size of the fines, the third is one sanction one check. well, actually a ban on simultaneously attracting an official of a legal entity today . we are together with the regions and entrepreneurs. we are monitoring the implementation of this law. there is another example that was also born. as part of the feedback from the entrepreneurs, a to e, there was a significant problem with the e-pools, within which it was forbidden in april of this year to operate the e -pool with a screamer cleaning system, in fact. this 40% of pools throughout our country. there, thanks to the dialogue with entrepreneurs and thanks to rospotrebnadzor. and we managed to make changes to

the existing sanpins. and therefore, separately, probably, the direction works from the prosecutor general's office. also including based on feedback from entrepreneurs. since the beginning of the year. we managed to cancel over. thirty checks, probably the next thing i would like to say is that, in general, the digitalization of communication channels between the state and business, as well as the simplification of actually obtaining such support, is probably one of elements. e, in the development of the sme sector, we see the digital platform sp as a key tool in the framework of the implementation of the national project and in fact e. for us, this tool is both for feedback and for setting up existing services. she started working in february of this year. we see every day. what is used for what is requested. and how to actually register and unused for 4 months more than 100,000 entrepreneurs have already started using the platform. at the same time, this is registration through public services. this is a more complex process, but the daily dynamics that we see, but it says

that we have one more side. she's good on the other hand. it's a subject for criticism. well, for example, a month and a half ago. you talked about the markets are forgotten. we received a request from entrepreneurs about how to find a supplier for what now. there is a demand from large companies. where we can now replace the departed foreign partners, we developed and launched a service on our digital platform in just a month. it is called industrial cooperation, where we digitized supply and demand. uh, on it digitized placed the demand of large companies more than 50 of this kamaz this magnet. and this is russian railways, and these are large retail chains, and in less than a month and a half, more than 600 companies, six hundred companies, began to conduct their business and communication. in this sense, we are just a tool to implement and respond to their needs. you are completing only a part of them, so as not to take time, and in conclusion, i would like to say that global changes, of course, fall on the shoulders of small

businesses, so we must support them not only in financial. thank you thank you very much. today, at the financial session, even bankers complained that the range of different credit programs of the corporation is so diverse that sometimes it is difficult for bankers, at least, to understand and choose. so really. uh, a huge range of possibilities has emerged. well, this is now needed, indeed, opportunities have appeared, additional niches have appeared that can be occupied. well, i looked at some numbers, how can this be done? well, first of all, large customers under 223, e, fz carry out purchases and are increasingly faced with the fact that suppliers do not come, there are no offers. well, for example, according to the system. uh, a marker in the period from february 20 to may 20, that is, in fact, for the

last two months, 21% of all procurement procedures. just turned out to be without applications a year ago in the same 2 months there were 14% noticeable changes. but if you look at the money, it’s even more, uh, a noticeable difference this year is 12% uh, no money was spent on them, applications for bidding were not received 4% it was a year back. and of course, that's on and other things now uh, often turn out to be without suggestions. well, now, uh, we will now move on, actually, to practical issues, and i just wanted to continue the dialogue with evgenia chavkina, who heads an engineering company, there are not many companies that work in the manufacturing sector of the sme segment. and so in your case. what opportunities do you see

for embedding the supply chain for operations with large companies. and what is for this? necessary good afternoon. i would like to detail today talk about the development of small and medium business industry. let me start by saying that we have a rather large committee on industry in russia in april. i lead the industry committee in the novosibirsk region and i myself am a manufacturer. and i have food production. if we talk about numbers, then the share of industry. a-a small business accounts for 6% of the total share of smes, to a greater extent. this is, of course, manufacturing. i believe that the share of sme e-industry has a huge potential in our country for growth development. we have a lot of decent factories that produce a quality product among smes. there are those who produce unique products. there are those who are currently dealing with issues of

import substitution. and the country now more than ever needs the development of production, but when implementing support measures, they are needed. to adapt, among other things , to the industrial sector of small businesses. i want to share the experience, uh, that we have in the novosibirsk region in 2021. i'm at the base the regional branch has set up a project production development project, the purpose of which is the cooperation of large defense enterprises and small businesses. in other words, on the one hand. we have defense enterprises that have a rather large assortment of machine tools, and a large number of qualified employees, but often, this is all underutilized on the other hand. there is an sme enterprise that cannot maintain such a number of employees and cannot have such range of machine park, but they have the most

important thing, they have a clear understanding of the market. and how to implement it all. that is why the idea arose to unite it all with the help of the industrial operation, the project is carried out in several directions, this is the task of the machine park for rent by employees and without this the placement of civil orders, but the execution of design documentation. if we talk about the results of the twenty- first year, then only support resources and no funding. we have been able to provide the workload of the defense industry enterprise is up to 35%, and if we talk about the preliminary results of this year already, then in just 5 months at one of the defense industry enterprises, machine workload has already exceeded 70%. only through cooperation with small enterprises small manufacturing business. today within. even just a development projector, the task of import substitution is being carried out.

yes, so far small serially, but they do it. and it really is a unique story. this experience needs to be scaled to other regions. and we are ready for it study. in fact, i believe that a lot can be done to develop the industry. this project is a clear example of this, because it can also be regarded as a measure of support. and if we talk about the support measures that are currently available and which are necessary, then, of course, i need cheap long-term money for development, but with all this, it must be borne in mind that the manufacturing business is difficult to cost, and high-risk and low -margin and loans they give you should be issued for long periods of time. this is at least 5-7 years, because the terms are short. they can be business deadly. and, of course, it is necessary to take into account the fact that the majority of enterprises

are already on credit at the moment. and it should not only be credit money offers by measures. and there should be a certain tax burden, without it. unfortunately, no matter how, at the moment it turns out that our regions have the right to reduce property tax and, according to the simplified taxation system, the majority regions. in fact, they use it by industry, including for manufacturers. and what should entrepreneurs do if they are in a region in which this is categorically not done at all for anyone, that is, and production is, as it were, for comparisons are not it. we will not put it in suitcases, we will not transport it to another region, that is, it is necessary to create equal conditions for doing business, it is necessary to reduce the tax burden for production throughout the country. and very good conditions, in fact , we are given the industrial development fund, of course, it needs additional capitalization, but it

also needs to be adapted to the small business industry. we also want to receive money and support measures at these interest rates, which are declared there under the terms that are there, this should also be done. actually. we are glad that now a proposal about russia under the industrial mortgage has already been actively accepted into work. this was our proposal. and this is very important for us now, because the production area is a huge pain for any manufacturer to be able to buy, and manufacturing space with a low interest rate. and most importantly, with a long term, it would be a huge support for the development of production. and, of course, i can't help but touch on the issue. personnel i understand that this issue worries, but almost all of them. i think business, but if you look from the side of production, then here

people are considering, uh, employment, in general, in the last place, of course. uh, the employers themselves, the production workers, are ready to employ young people , the only question is that young people are not ready to work for production, and here an approach is needed, but in creating conditions so that it would be profitable for people to work at a manufacturing enterprise. in this regard, very good support measures have been introduced for the it industry, and i think this is a very working tool, like a preferential mortgage, that is, to create conditions for people to benefit from going to the industry that we need, which is needed in the country. and once again i will say that in our country there are a large number of worthy industries. we need to take a vector now. for support on creating conditions for the development of our industry, this must be done now more than

ever. we, as a public organization , express our readiness, and in the development of the production project, which is in the novosibirsk region in scaling to other regions, to expertly participate in the development of measures for the industry of small and medium-sized businesses, because it is difficult to talk about the development of the economy without the development of industry, as well as it is impossible to make a breakthrough in import substitution without a comprehensive development work program production. the most important. i think. we must create such conditions in our country that our producers would be profitable here. and only then will we get away from dependence on imports and be able to develop our own production, developing the economy of our country. we have all the resources for this. thank you thank you very much. it seems to me that there are excellent examples, just saying

that, in general, the main potential of entrepreneurship is the ability to see opportunities to realize them. this is uh, what can indeed, when the dynamism, and the economy, and today there was a whole session dedicated to. uh, just uh issues of industrial enterprises. uh, she was led to elena dybova from the commercial chamber of industry then uh, so i want to ask elena nikolaevna now, just in connection with the fact that i condemned the son of the session. here, in your opinion and based on the results of the session of your experience, what is needed for us to get the maximum effect from a private initiative, how even to change the sme support strategy, and the logic itself, so that we really has grown into some new quality some new strategy, that's what ah, we just talked about. thank you so much. i was just thinking,

are you really going to ask me about production? when we have a completely different? it seems to me that the basic theme is - this is still a new strategy, and i want a few theses. but to expand the discussion and try to talk a little more and talk about something else, what is the new strategy. this is how we discussed it, and today at the session we are discussing a lot in business as part of our discussions, first of all. i think i need several base forks now pass. we talk a lot about quantitative indicators. we have a national project on the number of employees, but in fact we need to think very seriously about looking at and analyzing yes, we have reached 25 million, but at what expense and what is the composition of our small business.

unfortunately, each of us, uh, knows the figures that uh , the share of microbusiness is very high. and it has not actually been declining in recent years, micro, business is the most difficult niche. with very difficult conditions for doing business. i am now, uh, i don't want to bring up the subject of the self-employed, because for me personally, that's with my entrepreneurial experience since 1991 . i think it's a great tool, but it's not entrepreneurship. self-employed - this is the initial stage - try to feel it and see what it is very cool that this tool has appeared, but it does not solve the basic task that, in fact, is now set by the state. after all. we hear this all the time, that it is necessary to free the business to give the opportunity to create a new business environment, therefore

it seems to me that the next stage after we passed the quantitative stage. uh, having a small business. we need to move on to the next next stage - this is the quality of the business. this is the quality of our companies. we must set and formulate the task of moving away from micro-entrepreneurship to another level, to the growth of our business, to the growth of employees in each enterprise, and not in the whole area of ​​small business. look at the announcement of our sections everywhere support measures support measure are written. it sounds in the national project. it sounds in everyone as well speeches. it seems to me that the new strategy of the support measure is social entrepreneurship. these are pensioners. these are the disabled. there needs to be support for entrepreneurship there should be a new stage. these are development tools. it also sounds. but it should be the base

locomotive. we must create the tools to move forward, and here we need to consider several stages. it seems to me that it is clear that the first stage is the start of a business. this is the start of it . only young entrepreneurs need to be allowed to start , as if to give the right to make a mistake and and so on, but as soon as the enterprise, the business entrepreneur has worked for 3 years, has broken through all the bumps that he could, and so on, the state should be included with development tools and an opportunity should be given. indeed, how to receive everything that he has already formed for himself, where and how he can develop. you know, we talk so much about checks and everything else. it seems to me that if a business pays taxes for 3 years, this is a normal amount, and so on. he already has the right to be accompanied and advised the state is already ready to invest its

resources in it in order to go further, well, it’s impossible to go on like this, endlessly discussing the topic of checks that come and generally take the soul out of all our people. it is necessary to reduce the administrative pressure, which has really become great. and often, precisely because of this, the possibility of growth is not given. we must set ourselves a challenge. we have a huge share of non-tax payments. ours is real. here sasha gave an example. we started paying trillions in taxes. i'm not sure that this is our achievement, because it seems to me that in recent years more and more money has been taken from the business, there is no money left for development. and it’s bad for an entrepreneur to have resources left so that he invests in staff in training for growth in various equipment of his own and so on for business. you need to leave money. you need to stop and

stop altogether, uh, take out an additional load. although, yes, taxes seem to be decreasing, but not tax payments, which we have been talking about for a very long time, unfortunately, they are only growing. if if we are talking about priorities, then, of course, we want a truly basic direction and state to appear. now concentrated where to invest excellent performance. yes, it seems to me that we discussed this, that now is the time for our russian production. we even put forward the slogan that it is necessary to carry out small-scale industrialization in such a way as to give an opportunity for high-quality qualitative growth of the manufacturing business. unfortunately , the ministry of industry and trade with its programs. still focuses on big business and the development fund industry. we know what. in general, with which enterprises it works and grows, a

completely different approach is needed here, and it seems to me that in the new strategy we should have these industry programs that will provide opportunities for a different interaction. we need to revise the national project that project. and now it is a peacetime project. it was one task. now there are other fundamentally important tasks. and it seems to me that we should reconsider and concentrate on this. well also very important. history is a dialogue. dialogue state and entrepreneurship here, too, we need to develop new approaches to this strategy, because, unfortunately, there are a lot of questions that we voice every year at all forums at many many events. we say that there are things that are fundamentally important to us. yes, he says, we are the state. yes, he says,

the government is not for us, it does not work. it's not accentuated. here on this there are their own and so on and so on. and it should be a dialogue when we after all, they should hear each other, because there are basic things for which some kind of torn problems are not solved without solving. well, unfortunately, it will be impossible to move forward. if we talk about a new strategy, we need this bridge, when positions are still approaching, when decisions are made quickly. it's disgusting when those acute tasks facing business are solved, and this will be a movement strategy. forward, well, alexander kalinin spoke in detail about all our other achievements, for which special thanks to him. here is what i wanted say for real. it seems to me that a good good

goal is to make a small business big, and for this we really need some kind of qualitative transition a qualitative transition from individual measures to a good quality investment climate, which actually allows this to be done. and here, it is probably important that we have a variety of large businesses. medium small and different forms of business. and here is the time. remember that today, by the way, this was also discussed at one of the sessions about the history of questions, as we have in the 19th century actively developed consumer cooperation, as rural e, manufacturers. uh, they brought the matter to the fact that russia was in the leading positions in this indicator and survived, by the way, all the reforms, both communist and all others. well, just about this i would like to talk about with larisa kuzmina, how today you can stimulate entrepreneurs in the countryside. how to ease the way from

the t-counter field? well, in general, in everything that consumer cooperation does good afternoon dear colleagues, but i would like to start from the field just consumer, cooperative, orenburg down jackets - this is a unique production of down products. uh famous all over the world and uh making exclusive items they are exclusive because they are handmade today. uh, hmm our factory is a complete cycle, ranging from uh bad and recognition. won at the stage of hairstyles before e, processing it and already e finished product of its sale, and in the state of the cooperative. we have a large number of publishing houses for houses, which are constantly provided with raw materials and which and receive the main income. this is their own, uh,

a constant salary precisely from their work to preserve the traditions of down-padded knitting in the orenburg region on the territory of the orenburg region, uh, there are two schools for children from 7 to 14 years old, uh, which are financed by the cooperative as well as support. in my opinion, our knitters, who in the dynasty work with our children in the process of e -learning. today we are actively involved in the development program. e. hmm domestic industrial tourism. uh, also uh, i want to note this fact that before the factory became a full cycle, our enterprise experienced a powerful lack of raw materials. we seriously bathed at subsidiary farms and there was one enterprise that grew coffee for livestock. e

decreased every year, and thanks to the active position of the union center in development, and folk art crafts and the support of the union center, we have succeeded today. not only to revive the selection of braids, but also, uh, we are already now engaged in the level. e renaissance and u improvements. here is a unique selection for today, and we have 2,000 broodstock for the head. and we have a full cycle, a review before shali well, i gave a fairly vivid example of such economic interaction between various areas and participants in the process, which are characteristic of the operational movement, but, unfortunately, such examples are isolated and, uh, they are not such an example of the rules undoubtedly. uh, the state in recent years has turned out to be

unprecedented measures to support agricultural cooperation, and uh, of course, we see all these results, but uh, we hear this question more and more often farmer . eh, the products he produced cannot be sold here either. so i see gaps in the fact that there are no, uh, measures to promote sufficient attention. and consumer cooperation today is a system that combines both commercial manufacturing activities and processing industries, provides employment for about 220,000 people, and is represented in every region of russia and serves the goods of the first needs and hard-to-reach sparsely populated remote villages today. e hmm consumer

cooperation is sometimes the only way to get e, namely the goods broadcast from st. petersburg where, within the framework of the international economic forum, a plenary session and participants discussed the strategy for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. we are closely following what is happening in st. petersburg, and we will definitely return to this topic during our broadcasts. and now we return to the review of the information vladimir putin and president of south africa with kiril ramofosa discussed food security and food security by phone, including the supply of russian fertilizers and agricultural products to africa