the liberated russian markets are certainly of interest to a variety of players. especially in the current situation, when we see that the alignment of forces that has been so habitually and much talked about in recent years has seriously changed and the process of transformation is happening right now before our very eyes. how exactly it will develop is very tricky about it. they say that even market professionals, by the way, among the delegations that came here to st. petersburg these days are representatives of afghanistan. and we watched how they we looked at a variety of stands and were interested in what was presented where. and then, in an interview with our tv channel, they talked about that representative of the country's chamber of commerce and industry, in particular , they said that they were interested in russian investments. how did you come to the forum? what negotiations have already taken place? what are your plans, if in short there were no serious negotiations, but we are preparing the ground for solving our trade and economic relations in the future, only in

my russia afghanistan has delivered wagons of food worth 3 million dollars. here we are talking and lakes about wheat and oil, and your representative said yesterday that the country is ready to buy another 2 million tons of wheat, and it is also planned to buy russian oil. what volumes are we talking about, how would you assess trade relations with russia in general e. q. of course, we need food first of all. this also applies to flour and wheat and oil in one place with order and for industrial production. we need different fuel options. you would like to conclude a serious contract, on the basis of which the goods would be delivered to on a permanent basis and, accordingly, are ready to supply dried fruits to russia. in general, vegetables and fresh fruits in general. and such an agreement is planned to be signed within the framework of this forum. we signed. this is also a great benefit for us in the future, we are ready to sign an agreement with the russian chamber of commerce and industry so that we can promote those goods that i have already

mentioned, you need to understand that afghanistan is, in terms of transit, a very advantageous point through which it was possible to deliver goods not only to afghanistan itself, but also to neighboring countries, including southeast asia, given that we have already ensured complete security in almost the entire territory of afghanistan, there may be good prospects here. and if there are any other plans for joint projects with russia, maybe we are talking about some specific investments , such an approach is very important, because afghanistan needs investments. this applies not only to investments from the russian federation, but investments from all over the world. it is desirable that businessmen could meet to discuss pressing issues and problems, which you decided together, especially since it is now on our territory. normal conditions have already been created in our country for mutual business contacts, given that there are many problems in afghanistan related to construction. of course, we need building materials and cement. here, too, we could

unite our efforts to build a cement plant in afghanistan with the help of russia. negotiations on these topics are currently underway, while we have only made a proposal for specific negotiations yet, but for this purpose we have come to start this dialogue. and to advance the solution of these issues, about which the minister of trade will arrive in moscow in the near future, we regard our visit as preparatory in order to create a basis for serious negotiations at a higher level. well, we continue to follow everything that happens here in st. petersburg at the international economic forum. of course, i'm not alone and all my colleagues work. here, in particular, alexandra suvorova sasha is given the floor to you. nadia thank you came to our field studio here at the smf deputy prime minister dmitry chernysha dmitry nikolayevich hello, before the start of our live broadcast, we discussed that you have a very busy agenda, including an agreement

signed by the participants in some sessions. tell us more about what exactly is discussed on the first day. well, the anniversary st. petersburg economic forum was such an intense event that i can't remember in the almost twenty years of my personal visit to this forum. eh, it started with a historical event. i think that both for our country and for the whole world, if someone i missed it, be sure to look, and the city of the region was chosen, which will host the world's first games of the future, that is, the games of the future are 9 days. like here the olympic games are the only high-tech sports esports. uh, cybernetics drones. uh, but all this is connected with real sports in order to have a great personality, it ca n't just be in the virtual world. you must be in shape. e you have to maintain this form by competing with other participants, so kazan was chosen e, this choice was from more than 19

city ​​applications. there were five finalists, serious competitors were the same as moscow -st. , apparently, also played its role according to 200 different criteria of the evaluation commission, conducted a comparison of, uh, candidate cities. and here, probably, this gigantic expocentre, which was created right in connected with the airport in modern kazan also played a role, so we now have a city. the first ingrative games will be held in the twenty-fourth year in february. and now, kazan is getting ready with might and main, we congratulate them on this, and the second, probably a very important event, which i simply demonstrated with my own eyes. uh, the huge interest of the subjects

in the development of tourism and infrastructure. this is the signing at the same time about not about exactly with the twenty heads of subjects, but agreements. yes, that is, we had the signing of the federal tourism agency with five governors, who are united as part of our initiative within the supervised volga federal district, the great volga way, which combines the water artery and centers of tourist interest with the infrastructure of crack walls. e on with the station in e. samih, e ships to move and so on. all this is a complex project supported by the government. and here are the subjects together with rostourism. eh, here we are united and in this single project all this is being implemented and another pool. e had signatories. we have e with the tourism corporation of the russian federation uh, which uh. now we have joined, uh, the ranks of those

forerunners who are already participating in the creation of tourism infrastructure, because our beautiful country, uh, in which, in terms of climatic conditions and beauty, from kamchatka, where we were, the tamarctic to the subtropics. a-a represents all the climatic zones that are definitely not inferior in many respects to surpassing the world's, it remains only to establish services for the newly created infrastructure and these are the agreements that have already been signed by the rustum. they are in different stage of implementation, approximately 380 billion. they will, uh, give. approximately 20,000 hotel rooms plus the affordable loan program that rostourism has now secured for about 15,000 more rooms. this is already in the first pool, which we are issuing, and already this year about five hotels

will be put into operation. and, that is, this suggests that all e subjects are very well aware that tourism is the most powerful economic driver of economic development in the region. it combines over 50 different industries and this impressive multiplier, when 10 rubles are attracted for one ruble of invested federal funds, and extra-budgetary investments are attracted. it just indicates that the right mechanism has been found, which allows to reduce the payback horizon of infrastructure projects, which usually hopelessly went there in 30 years. and now , due to the fact that the state takes its time, related infrastructure, and investors are given. in fact, interest-free good loans and such , uh, fast track, green street for the allocation of land lack of bureaucracy, support for liquidity entry into the capital, and so on. all the aggregate attracts

a large number of investors. that is, let's go first. uh, the biggest ones out there are significant uh, such huge projects. now we are seeing more and more the trend towards the fact that medium and small investors. uh, entrepreneurs went, in particular. we see this on the initiative that we launched a trial this year and the demand is crazy, uh, 4 billion. we did trials. and now the selection of a competition of 19 subjects for prefabricated modular publications. that is, they are not temporary, since they are 30-50 years old, as a rule, produced in the subject itself. uh, it looks very nice. these are huge windows, they are all energy-independent autonomous and inexpensive. but most importantly, uh, they will already be put into operation this year, that is, they can be installed in hard-to-reach places and in territories of a special mode of use, nature

security, which allows, uh, to get the opportunity to enjoy our beauties for our tourists, and us to achieve those indicators, who are president of us national tourism project. we didn’t have time to welcome twice, we should increase, and the number of our domestic tourist trips and inside tourists to 130 million . and if the nation was attached there was a concentration of replacement efforts. ah, the liberated niche from e, hard. industrial software in the field that's exactly e mechanical engineering, then here we are with the minister from digital development just now ended the session that we brought together leaders in all other

industries, it is worth noting that the largest spending on software was in the industries of e, credit for the financial sector and the telecom industry from representatives of these were. of course, in addition to them, there were also the heads of the largest corporation in the field of energy in the field of agriculture and transport, and they create in general, such a spherical picture, which confirms the correctness of the instructions that the prime minister gave us to create industry centers competencies in the direction here are 13, e main industries. eh, the economy and the types of software that are to be completed and replaced now, and what is very important, they were talking there about some alleged mass exodus of our it-specialists. market, but the fact is that the set of support measures that makes the vision of business it business from our country more profitable than from anywhere in the world and the number of ambitious tasks that are now simultaneous.

thanks to these stupid stations formed on in our import substitution market, of course, is now the most powerful magnet for attracting it people. i think of the whole world to come here to create our russian competitive ones. e suggestions. we see, uh, in principle, by indirect signs of the effect already from those measures. and by the way, one of the fastest support measures during the sanctions crisis was support for it, the president's branch. wrote. decree support it-otli this preferential loans and deferment otara mortgage loans. and there are very serious numbers accelerating. uh, mortgage preferential. we see that the number of e-companies that will take advantage of these benefits is growing rapidly. by the end of the year, we plan to have 35,000 companies that will be registered in the

register of our russian it-companies, which undergo a very strict selection process. eh, on the one hand. this is because it is convenient to pass this registration. it is done on the public services portal with a few clicks, and then the front is confirmed and you can already apply for these benefits, and on the other hand, we see there are two tracks, that is, one sides. this stands out company, separate from the existing large corporations that were divisions. and now they stand out as a separate business. and most importantly, we see the creation of a large number of new companies. here is 35.000. this is really a lot for our small market. that is, we understand that these companies will create products that will not only satisfy the domestic market, but they are aimed at exports, and we will go out and compete very widely in the foreign market with our solutions, which functional in many ways. eh, it's very competitive, so

we are optimistic about the window of opportunity that has opened, realizing that it is enough. e is short and we need to hurry to take it, because, well, other countries, instead of those who left, will also strive to come to our market, so our stag parties in this sense are lucky again. and what do you think, at what point we are now on the way to technological sovereignty in it, you know them by different types of software. e, in industrial. a-a sector is about 22, and we are from 30 to 100%, the functional level of substitution is the most difficult. eh, those are big decisions. which run automated production in factories that are historical uh, plant managers made choices, uh, towards foreign solutions and they developed them for decades. this is the most difficult painful

transition process. well, just here are the industry centers of competence, they can allow, uh, to find those russian ones, they exist, uh, alternatives that it is clear that will need to be finalized functionally, but they are becoming the industry standard and the whole industry is talking. yes, here we are , at least two proposals for them to compete with each other. and it’s better to choose a few more as a standard for standardized certification. and then we use them throughout the industry. yes, that is, we will have our own. uh, the introduced skating rink, widespread throughout the market, and the systems that will be provided there, design and automation of production processes and, in addition, it is clear that general common software. how is it with the operating system? there are instant messengers and so on, which have been replaced fairly quickly. uh, foreign solutions. let's

talk about another area that you oversee. this is sport russia, which is actually removed from all international competitions, or from the latest proposals to compete under the neutral flag of this prosthesis. now, if we talk about the current situation, what government support measures are aimed at stabilizing the situation in russian sports and international competitions, how will we conduct? uh, in what format, well, the president instructed that our athletes compete for the activity to remain at a sufficient level. and what is being done for this? well , firstly, a new international movement has been created. together we are a sports point that allowed, for example, our paralympic athletes, who were undeservedly expelled from the paralympic games right there in khanty-mansiysk, to hold alternative paralympic games . five countries participated in them on a good scale with good television coverage. they were implemented. it is clear that we do not stand still. we are working with that part of humanity, which, in addition to

this notorious collective west, which shoots itself in the foot, because any competitions are now without russia, but it’s just ridiculous there is competition, of course, such no, well, if they decided so, uh, then we are now our own the focus of attention is directed to the strange brix sco of the asian region and, uh, that's it. our federations are reoriented just to these areas and new bright competitions. how the children of asia play there in vladivostok, they are all creating new products. uh, which will provide an opportunity for our athletes. e compete besides that. we, thank god, are leaving. yes, dependence on foreign e -sports bases, on which some of our federations had a habit of training our athletes. and now, uh, we will finally

do it completely, so that our bases, which used to be in the soviet union in the soviet republics, and then we continued to train in general, not within the framework of the russian federation, but. now they will finally be created here and, uh, russia will be completely import-substituted from the point of view. eh, training bases for elite e sports of our sports for elite international competitions up to the highest achievements, and it is very important that the funds that were forced to be released as a result of the fact that we were cut off from some international competitions, and on behalf of the prime minister, we directed to the creation sports infrastructure and we are here the projections of united russia there are smart playgrounds plus an additional 90 sports grounds of our subjects will appear and what is encouraging we see how they are in demand, because, well, they are almost round the clock, they are lit. there is also

an opportunity there with gadgets in them. inside, they work there, but nevertheless, these are sites where you can play sports around the clock are very popular, especially with our children. and this is a healthy lifestyle. this is the performance indicator. e achievements that 70% of our citizens should regularly go in for sports, therefore, in general, the trend is to maintain the implementation of this trajectories to achieve the national goal. we see what is positive. well, this month we ended our intrigues on the body. big dmitry nikolayevich thank you, i remind you that you spoke with the deputy prime minister. dmitry chernyshenko. now i pass the floor, my colleagues anastasia nastya yes. sasha thanks. thank you, of course, dmitry nikolaevich chernyshenko. behind this is very curious. the treaty, which brings us back, perhaps, to the central idea of ​​the st. petersburg international economic forum this year, its theme sounds like a new world, new opportunities. and the most important thing is that it is on this site. there is

an opportunity to talk about different scenarios for the development of events for various sectors of the economy. a very broad concept. but after all, not only they are talking here, not only about the economy, not only about politics, about the social sphere, of course, the well-being of citizens, about how we will live in the future, bearing in mind such a changed and changing reality before our eyes. new logistics, new products, new partners, new agreements. all this is being discussed here today. i remind you that the first session of this of the day was dedicated to the russian economy and the prospects it has today, to the assessments that this expert makes, by the way, the ministry of economic development even said that there is reason for cautious optimism about the possibility of changing the forecast for the russian economy to a more favorable one, this is connected with a number of factors and, of course, first of all with the steps that the russian authorities are taking in order to mitigate the sanctions strikes,

which, well, in general, the authors of these very strikes did not they hid that they were aimed at destroying the russian economy, they were aimed at such an economic brilliance, the cry of which, as we see, did not work out; moreover, the effect of the sanctions hit like a boomerang on those who imposed these very sanctions, and in this regard, we are already talking about global problems. in particular, the possibility of global hunger is recognized by many experts from various countries. it is said that dozens of states may suffer energy carriers and with broken supply chains, because even in cases where reliable suppliers are ready to supply their goods, do so often. impossible because of the actual transport blockade that was arranged for russia by its so-called western partners, and in this situation, of course, it is very important how self-sufficient the country is from

this point of view about it. by the way, the experts and i talked the day before during the opening day of the forum and we talked about this today and at the session, dedicated to this issue. russia can feel absolutely calm, because it is provided with food. it is self-sufficient and in this matter experts have no doubts, and as they say, we cannot continue to talk about the current economic and political situation. in its various aspects. and i return the word to you sasha and of course to your new guests. thank you nastya, now the minister of russia for the development of the remote east has become a guest in our field studio here in st. petersburg and the arctic alexey chuzhankov flew, olegavich. hello. good afternoon, talking about the current situation, we see, er, how it has affected, of course, transport logistics. the fact is that we all know perfectly well what large hubs we have, including in the far east , whether the existing infrastructure is enough to cope with the amount of work that is, the short answer is no, and, uh, within the framework of an organic

development of our cargo flows. already exceeded the capacity of our transport arteries. this and railroad possibility. border crossing ports. we estimated the deficit at about 40-50 million tons today, taking into account the reorientation of flows from west to east. the deficit already exceeds 70 million tons, in 2-3 years. it will reach 150, so we have a very urgent task ahead of us. not just opening up bottlenecks on uh, land on land. the most important project is the development of the northern sea route so that we can bring out by sea those goods that should go to asian markets, but which today, uh, so to speak, get stuck in the european part of russia, the expansion of the baba and the trans-siberian. will the need to create new border crossings help us in this matter? i think the possibilities, the actual tracks. they are almost exhausted, which is evidenced by the creation of a new branch of the pacific railway

. the so-called bam-3, which a private company is building from the south of yakutia to the pacific ocean in the north of the khabarovsk territory, therefore creating new border crossings. such as the recently opened road bridge, blagoveshchensk xx as completed this year, railway crossing nizhny leninskoye tunjian, as a grain terminal in zabaikalsk, which is being created and is being completed this year , we compare the pressure with the baba and transibo, we will go to the chinese side with a proposal to create additional crossings. such as in the village of staro-su. and that trans-baikal territory in order to more evenly release goods from russia and, accordingly, reduce pressure on the trans-siberian women in the narrowest places in primorye and khabarovsk territory, if we talk about the situation that has developed today, uh, of course foreign investors. i think a lot of people are watching. uh, it’s difficult for these circumstances to somehow change their plans for the development of projects on the moscow route, and in the far east there are two dimensions, one

dimension, uh, opportunistic and uh, the second dimension is working, let’s say, and also two schedules are short-term, temporal period. there is a long-term, if you look at the short-term market reactions, we have heard many unprecedented and, let’s say, made under pressure from external forces, statements about the suspension of work in russia, even the departure from russia as a worker. level, we see quite a few signs that especially the asian partners. they understand that strategically a. it is impossible to grow from russian energy carriers from our transport links and from russian e-resources, and i think the asians' strategy is to work together, and we receive these signals through many channels. i believe that not only cooperation with the people's republic of china, but also work with japan rather with other countries. in the east, normalization will enter the normal course. after the hot phase

those shocks that we are going through now , well, locally there is a reorientation. of course, i think that in every crisis there are opportunities, the volume of new projects that we see now as part of the import substitution of the creation of russian production of what we did not produce before. this is really important for our country. you know, we exported about 500 goods, er, which were the subject of our russian export, and imported 10,000 goods. that is, for each one type of product that russia exported. 20 bought, well obviously, this balance needs to be brought into some more reasonable direction for the largest country in the world. we can definitely produce more, as today it is supported by a business that operates in the far east, it is expensive to work in the far east and uh, the cost of money historical uh was one of the factors that forced the state to implement. uh, programs of development institutions on preferential lending, when the interest rate rose to 20%, the first and most important request

from business was subsidies. these sharply increased costs that were not included in their business model. we have allocated 29 billion rubles from the state program for the development of the far east and the arctic. we have already provided the first tranche of assistance to the company so that they maintain their social obligations so that they do not shift projects to the right. now we are already implementing targeted support both in terms of establishing new logistics corridors and in terms of creating new border industrial zones in order to create import-substituting goods in order to create a localization of the assembly of those goods that were previously imported. therefore, we work with each of the more than 3,000 residents of our territory of advanced development of the free port, vladivostok, as with relatives so that not a single project stumbles on time, if possible , kept, but most importantly, kept the workers i have one last question. what contracts were concluded here within the framework of the first official

working day ? an agreement was concluded with the house, the russian federation, which, with their infrastructure bonds at a capital price of 3% , is a serious partner. for us in order for us to be able to create infrastructure at a faster pace, we are already working with them in magadan in yakutia today signed an agreement to launch this mechanism in the arkhangelsk region with rusatom together we are expanding the program. there are few non -nuclear power plants, and there is also little capacity under the mechanism of the far eastern concession. well, in general, our corporation for the development of the far east of the arctic is here concluded quite a few agreements, including, by the way, with the israeli russian business council on the creation of new production facilities in the border areas of production, focused on the chinese market in order to fill those niches that were vacant due to well-known events, therefore, i believe that our turn east. now he is picking up speed and gaining strength. we will provide all the

necessary support in our company and good luck in this work. thank you very much alexey olegovich , let me remind you that we talked with the minister for development of the far east and the arctic by alexei chekunkov, and now our channel is broadcasting a session of the international discussion club. valdai uh, last year we uh prophetically talked about sanctions, so uh this year it doesn't even make sense to talk about them, because we all already fell in love with them. uh, so we decided, uh, to talk. uh, more broadly, and on the topic of which direction. uh, the world economy is developing and will continue to develop. uh, in the conditions that have been created, well, everyone now refers to the events that began in february this year. but, of course, it is clear that this is not the reason. and not even a reason for all this, but what

is happening here is this radical restructuring of the world system, including the economic one, has matured for a long time. it was such an avalanche, or something on the top of the mountain, which was accumulating the strength of very different objective reasons. well , at some point, someone just shook it off the spot and after it was already moved, as we know, there are probably skiers in the hall who know this better than i, in general, if lavigne settled, then you can't stop it. then you just have to wait for it to collapse, and then try to understand how to live with it, and it seems to us that the processes that are taking place in the world are just the same political and economic system. they have now taken on such an erratic character. this does not allow us to build hypotheses about the immediate future quite difficult, being

in the flow of this very avalanche. e, well, to predict something, but e gives a clearer understanding that the previous system is certainly already will not come back. as for the new, we don't know what it will be, but it will be different and it will be made up of those elements that will chaotically remain from the old because. well, of course, these elements, blocks, they will be preserved in some form and, uh, as it seemed to us. uh, main collision, uh, main m-m. well, such a dialectical contradiction. uh, the new world system of the future is that everyone clearly realized. the importance of the need is not the indispensability of self-sufficiency, that is, the

ability to survive in any circumstances, relying on their own strength. but at the same time, it became quite obvious that cooperation is inevitable in any course of further events, that is, the world will be different, but it will not fall apart into isolated elements into isolated blocks. and that is why, by the way, many of the predictions that we, including those in the altai club, have made in the past few years. we wrote, uh, reports every year. well, something something like about the current state of the world order and tried to guess. in which direction is it moving, we guessed that everything collapse, but we are generally not very good. ah, predicted what would happen next. yes, as a matter of fact, uh, and no one has done that, so uh fantasize about whether it will be a new bi-polar system or some form of multi-polar. and if so, what does a multipolar system mean in practice,

probably, there is no particular need or sense for this now. but understand, er, this basic contradiction, how can it be resolved between the interconnectedness of the inevitable and the equally inevitable need to protect oneself from external impacts. this is probably the most important thing that we will talk about today, if i may. i'll start then from the farthest hmm farthest point of our today's uh with professor maharaj. especially since we had a talk with him before uh our event and i was impressed. here is professor maharaj's comprehensive approach because we see in the world, please, hmm mandela in his statement in the eighteenth year he was saying, let's see, uh, fact in the face of a sick

economic political system. no uh no the tasks that are related to the sustainable development of the world by ensuring the overall social well-being and well-being of people, the project actually lies in the fact that there is a great disunity between private and public ares. and i think it's really very brave. uh, the statement is the leader's statement. uh hmm made by uh the head of uh hmm by the head of an international organization and these words must have been quoted by mandela by the general secretary. he e i. eh, he wanted to convey. hey, very important thought. thought, which is very consonant with my thoughts. if in general to talk about what i would like to use. uh, this shady experience, uh, the negative experience of the

previous uh three years, actually. and what we have experienced over the years, uh, pandemics, because it really is. this reflects well, er, features of modern political economy. eh, and these facts have not yet been transferred into theory. they are not generalized. eh, but that's what we live with and what we're dealing with and the crisis. eh, let's say general. uh, understanding the soil of common global knowledge. e, is that there are a lot of people who have heard about self-sufficient with e. we also heard a lot about protein in terms of vaccination. many now in south africa have been experiencing this since 1976. youth in na-e. south africa took to the streets, protesting against

the imposition of a foreign language that was introduced into schools in secondary schools and institutions, uh, but uh, what to do next, what can help us survive uh in a situation of international international cooperation, uh, scientific technology, e and international corporations are extremely important and need to remind people how i feel. and it really is. e part of the world that surrounds us is, e, representatives of e, china is very good. they know what's going on. uh, now uh, and who has repeatedly told us that since december 1919 , an epidemic of a new coronavirus infection has erupted. it happened in wuhan. e china but the first and the first mixture, which is the death that occurred

as a result of the disease. uh was registered only in january of the twentieth year, then uh were registered more and more uh, death and only then protocols were developed, and already in january the who started talking about a global pandemic. uh, and it happened in february first. er, cases of the species in africa were reported in egypt in february. er, at the beginning of february 2020, and the who has trined that it is working with various states and governments of africa in order to develop e measures, including through e, isolation measures in order to, e, reduce the spread of the e pandemic and the university . e, talked about taking vera in order to prepare for this global pandemic, but on

in fact, not none of these. the world hasn't worked out literally in the days since e death, which was reported in and described in china in january. we've had this problem in africa as well, according to the who. last hmm we had uh over uh 50. uh uhm 50 million cases, uh, reported cases six uh six and a half million. uh, hmm order of this order the number of deaths from uh to species 11 uh, while more than 11 billion were developed and produced fact, uh before the vaccine, but uh, is there a global uh, crisis

one of them we experienced in the second year, and a similar uh crisis on a global uh scale in the area of ​​uh health care. but if we turn out to be more prepared for what follows, we can uh survive we can handle the situation. er, in the people's republic of china, it was proven that in 2020 a vaccine had already been released for limited use in the armed forces, soon russia started talking about having er, also vaccines, which er began to be used and then there was some kind of explosion. explosion in and a breakthrough in terms of vaccine development and distribution, but nonetheless. uh, those who uh are possess intellectual property rights. in this plan. mm

often acts quite suspicious, because e from the beginning to the form of the twentieth e, first e. covid-19. it was actually the beginning of the twentieth year. uh, several billion. e they turned out to be ill, but only a fraction of e, a percent were tested for passed. uh, hmm research on whether it's really sick or not, south africa and india proposed to cancel e-e in the wto. e. right er, the intellectual conscience of owning a vaccine that would help 19 people, and how awful. it didn't seem to be, but it is. this issue is still on the agenda. e wto has not

been resolved. although 2 years have already passed since then, in fact, this issue has been babbled, it has not been brought to its logical conclusion in order to really resolve the situation. in fact , everything is concentrated in the hands of those, uh, institutions of the organization that are trying to cope with the situation and apartheid in terms of vaccination turned out to be not a myth, not an invention. indeed, uh part of our reality and part of the global inequality, because there are those who profit from this problem and millions of people have actually uh, become infected and died due to lack of access to a vaccine, it was said that both the healthcare system and a system of cooperation

on uh, our continent but uh in matters of common. eh, a lot of character. what is really similar and can an analogy be drawn? uh, more rich uh countries and this is not a political statement about many uh issues should join the usa and china and uh russia in distributing the vaccine around the world because it is uh a pandemic a pandemic that uh broke out and south africa and also recognize- wow uh what needs to be done to get the vaccine to everyone and use it for everyone. so civil society doesn't wait and uh hmm doesn't wait

for things to go into an institutional phasm, it's necessary the government has been called into action. imagine we are one of we poorest we have the highest price per uh in the world, the dose of the vaccine is higher than in europe uh, so it is extremely important for us u to take into account, uh, the reality, uh, that we face daily and as institutions, uh hmm , public institutions, a global institution responds to such challenges, and not only within the framework of the valdai club, but within the framework of the entire global dialogue taking place all over the world. the only thing? unity on what is important for all of us living on this planet is the knowledge that we

we generate, uh, together, and the knowledge that we share with each other you want, uh, you give it away. uh, if you were offered to pay, uh, the price for uh, those discoveries that were made at one time centuries ago, millennia ago on the african continent, the opening of fire or the use of a stone ax, how would you evaluate it, but the point is that it is necessary uh, to change the current system otherwise the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. and this is something that should not be not something that should not take place in the 20th century in the first century. thanks professor maharash touched on, probably, the main problem that can be discussed indefinitely

the problem of institutions. the institutions didn't work. yes this is obviously the question didn't work. they are because something went wrong inside them or because the environment they were created for has changed. well , it seems to us that the altai club wrote about this more than once that there is a second reason, that is, institutions are good when they correspond to the international order. and when they no longer match, then they will not work, which we see is another matter. and this is probably the most important thing that we need to understand that the period e, the second half of the xx and the beginning of the xxi century, when world politics was regulated by institutions. it's over. and this was not the norm of world history. this was an exception, because both before and most likely after, international politics functioned on other grounds, much more anarchic. well, what does this mean next? how will it

be regulated? we will probably see this soon, and the owners we got used to over the summer of 50 to believe that our interdependence with europe is guarantees against e, shocks and stupidities, and now we see, it seems to be different and there are shocks. well , politics of a dubious degree of mind. eh, and most importantly. that same mutual relationship has turned into a weapon, both on our part and on theirs. does this mean that we are turning the page and on this, in fact, everything is in our conditions, at least in those that we have become accustomed to the world lately. uh, faced a number of such global challenges. well, someone calls it the perfect storm , someone finds it, and other epithets. we are definitely not end of story. there has been a lot of talk about the pandemic here.

really. yes, i think it was the last such historical chance for humanity, but still come together and give a collective rebuff to a common enemy that did not exist. as you know, not the ideology of any resources and generally very small, but nevertheless, what we saw instead we saw the vaccine race. now it is almost automatically recorded in the sins of our country. the second challenge is energy. it didn't start with those, uh, restrictions that, uh introduced this year. it’s not even the fate

of nord stream 2, it started much earlier, but it started, by the way, contrary to advice and recommendations, but by the russian side as a result of such stubbornness. i would even say a stubborn desire to abandon i'm talking in europe in this case, to seem like a system that justified itself in all respects, and long-term agreements to move on to free trade even then prices crept up. well, everyone knows what happened next. the third challenge is food security, obviously. this, too, not this year, not this growing season, started much earlier. and i remember a few years ago. uh, the western craze for, uh, alternative

fuels, biofuels, nearly derailed agriculture in a number of parts of the world, rarely as it is used in conjunction with the previous ones. this is a problem for super-powerful companies, and in the field of information technology. these monsters are primarily american, with which they can handle not the american authorities, not the european union nobody else. now, if we take all this together, we get a picture of the current state of affairs. this means that instinctively, in particular, my

clients in the european union are looking for the culprit. well, they take a lot of time. they quickly find in the face of russia and specifically its leaders. in the meantime, fedor said that the european union could survive this. sometimes i remind myself these days that it is a living monument to strategic partnership. and in the seventeenth year of my stay in brussels, i will say that during this time the european union has changed. and for in recent years, not since february, but in recent years, in fact, there has been an essential restructuring of the european union , which arose in the fifties as a mechanism for preventing a new big war in europe. and over the

previous 200 there may have been 300 years, each major conflict in europe involved two leading nations of the french and the germans were still germany as a single, but there was no single state, but nevertheless it was a nation and then they decided to take away from them first of all, that weapons, well, they quickly realized that if they take away weapons, they will produce new better. in a sense, they are even more effective, so we selected the main types of raw materials. including for the production of weapons, this is coal. this means that in recent years we have observed the erosion of national sovereignties within the european union as the main

condition for maintaining the ideological base, which is based on neoliberalism in its most radical forms. in fact, it was put out of brackets, and now i will put any dissent on the sub-ban and key guidelines are formulated by controlled media, and most of them in the language that idea from the european union has already been released in english. the discussion was reviewed on the underlying documents, but i think, probably, many still remember how difficult the lisbon treaty was in 2009, it was not so long ago and then they vowed, everyone just do what you want. just don't touch the underlying contracts. now it is being considered.

revising the underlying treaties as entirely acceptable, and moving forward is one of those elements. departure from principle, unanimity. i understand. recruited outside-the-box thinking new members to the european union, and now consensus is getting harder and harder, but what will the departure from the consensus mean, that the authority of the european union with its decisions, of course, they will perceive these decisions as more lightly. the other side is the problem. this is a trend. this is an increase in the functionality of the obshcheevtsev structures, primarily the european commission. what is the

european commission? this is not my chosen one, this is by no means a democratic institution. the european commission has taken up political advice to the euro-leaders and, in fact, well, except, perhaps, the heavyweights, to everyone else in advance impose a unified point of view. to this i will add the immaturity of modern political elites and the cycle of ideological clichés, that is, the decision is formed on the basis of no system analysis, not of expert assessments, but on the basis of public opinion polls. and these questions, in turn, are dictated by the anti-russian hysteria pumped up in the media in this case, often at the suggestion of the same jelly, that is, such a vicious circle.

strengthening of the influence of brussels i have european structures, of course, fertile ground for injection russian threat well, plus the personal condition of the factor of the current leadership, and they will name names, but i will note that, of course, the level of professionalism. and during the time of the blockade, it has noticeably decreased in countries that come to power or have already come to power. a new generation of young people who consider themselves first of all europeans, and then there. conditionally i will not speak french. poles there, estonians and others there. they are ready to easily not only

give up their national roots. well, give up the ideals of the founding fathers european integration. for them, approval from washington is more important. yes, there was a certain pause of 4 years. while trump was in power, so what they are most afraid of now for 24 years is not that power will change somewhere in other countries or that donald trump will return to power in the united states. here is the result. the period that can be conditionally called to define how between 2009 and 21 there was a period when europe

enjoyed these peace dividends, fucked up by david yes, in fact, the european union was disarmed number countries that fell short of the 2% standards proclaimed by washington, and military spending from the gdp of such countries was four five. well, among them i will not be the united states of the brothers themselves as an example in europe. it was greece, which armed itself against turkey and estonia, which armed itself against you know who? and now it's a craze, and even in countries like germany, which decided to throw 100 billion euros into its defense from here, a strategic

compass. and the european peace fund, as a mechanism for the supply of weapons to ukraine, moreover, when i i ask, they say, you actually, we started this for the sahel where is ukraine so what about it? well , to finish, i'll tell you about our relationship. yes, they are at the lowest point for all the time, not only my work, but actually at one time existence. we don’t, of course, we don’t slam the door, but they are also afraid to slam the door, because whatever one may say, the european union remains our largest trading economic partner, what will happen next, and what will happen next, or the european union

will reconsider its uh position towards russia a and. we will start somehow jointly or in parallel to formulate a new basis for the relationship that there will be no business from yuzhil. i understand it, we understand it, and either his europe, represented by the european union, will turn over the next decades into the backyard of world development. once i was on 12 jurors who had

to deliver a verdict in one very difficult case and voted indifferent. and i chose responsibility, and i chose trust, and i chose. forgiveness sincerity i chose good. justice compassion mercy love conscience what would you do?

what are you? what would you do and i ask you not to look. in this story, try to feel the truth of everyday life.

we continue our work at the international economic forum in st. petersburg and now our guest is vitaly mutkovich, general director of the house of the russian federation. hello, today there was a meeting of the state council commission, what they discussed, what they focused on, the working group is just the commission of the state council, that on the 21st there will supposedly be a meeting of the state union of the presidium of the state council with the participation of the president and is expected. so uh, that at this meeting the strategy for the development of the construction industry and housing and communal services will be considered, and today it sounds in the first approximation. let's say the commission will be of the council, which is headed by the president of the republic of tatarstan, uh, and the governors, with the participation of the government, deputy writer of the government, the minister of construction, the topic was discussed,

in general, the strategy itself, other challenges and moves to the development of the housing and communal services construction industry, here, in principle, agreed on all principles approaches. we approved, well, let's say the final version of the strategy for the development of the construction industry until the thirtieth year, approaches to the integrated development of the territory, not only construction there, but it was also about the development of motor roads. uh, how such a frame means our country. uh, there was a conversation about the development, which means that there is a railway transport about a complex about its own urban area. that is, in general, such a big conversation, which he is so pre-war, with which already, uh, we will go to a meeting of the presidium of the state council, based on the results of which we hope the strategy will be approved. well, the president's instructions will be given on those issues that will be supported by all the members of the

state council and the country's leadership. the house of the russian federation has a very extensive program on the forum. you are here sign an agreement with several regions at once, and we are talking about infrastructure bonds and consolidated regional loans, and the development of lending in the regions, as is being done this work, with which regions do you cooperate more actively and does this make housing more accessible in general, of course, a house? uh, the russian federation is a pivotal institution for the development of the housing sector, in our instrument. all such sexual support measures that there are from offerings to denunciations in the circulation of the earth er, the construction of rental housing support. uh, mortgages address issues related to the creation of infrastructure for construction, housing is also in the structure of the house and the rf bank, uh, the house of the rf bank, the construction industry, which are engaged in design financing and issuance of real mortgage programs. we also deal with issues

related to a comfortable urban environment, of course. we have a trip. and all the measures are aimed precisely at the goal, which is the availability of housing, so that housing is affordable. we need to balance supply and demand, so today there are many agreements that we have signed in the field of creating such universal mortgage programs. today , various networks of mortgage programs with state support operate in the country - this is preferential mortgage. under 9%. these are family mortgages at 6%. this is a rural mortgage. these are the latest products. this is a package for it-specialists. and naturally. there are also payments of 450,000 rubles. e is for people for families where a third child is born and which can be used to pay off a mortgage, and therefore all these measures that are today mean that the house of the russian federation has tools where we are operators. of course, they come to the region. well, some

regions have their own programs, someone adds money for subsidized mortgages. someone i would like to support my own narrow specialties or there it is a specialist. today we have signed three such agreements in chelyabinsk , the kursk region there, uh, the rostov region and , therefore, the nizhny novgorod region, where we are already becoming operators of regional programs. thus the region has the opportunity to see. all those support measures for the mortgage in the mortgage market for their citizens and thus reduce this mortgage by one and a half to two points. here we are today from the nizhny novgorod region signed he will have mortgage. uh, for some categories, from two to zero percent, that is, we are talking about not duplicating that the russian federation will be our operator. we will keep the entire register of these citizens. we will keep people informed. we have our own special service to ask the house of the russian federation around the clock all year round, that is, about 7 million citizens have already

applied to it and we explain all support measures for the mortgage line for citizens of the country, such a service continues the topic of mortgages to the point of measure, and if you look at the first result this year under previously launched and under new preferential programs. what are these results? and in general, how much has the demand for subsidized mortgages changed in 2022? well, you know here, of course, u, you understand that, of course, external factors had a very serious impact. we basically, until the month of february. uh, in general, there is january and early february, and theirs is february. generally. it was such a normal speaker. let me remind you that last year, thanks to support or preferential mortgages , 1 million 900,000 mortgage loans were allocated in the country. and somewhere under 450.000. it was a subsidized mortgage program structure mortgage, somewhere subsidized programs borrowed up to thirty percent. e, and.

well, in the primary market. maybe even more. ah, of course, when external factors affected the situation in the country and uh, the central bank took such a trap. in such an objective well, the first reaction that they had, when the rate began to grow, inflation began to increase sharply , of course, he took such a prohibitive measure, there was an increase in the key rate of 20%. and in fact in the structure of the mortgage has come. uh, market mortgage slowdown, basically april. eh, a month. eh, somewhere. well, it's still march. uh, a month it clearly means, uh, because, well, a mortgage has such a cycle, it takes about a month for that after the application for approval and issuance. here is the month of march, everything that was approved in february was expelled. we saw a huge surge, 169,000 mortgages were issued in march alone. and then,

due to the fact that in february, almost mid- february, no one applied for a mortgage, because key 20. well, who will take for 20% mortgages, well, they were still operating preferential mortgage programs. the preferential program, remember, was raised to 12 percent at the beginning and the family mortgage was in effect. we saw that march was the peak month. then the april may slowdown in the mortgage market certainly averaged there 33.000. there, uh, 40,000 were issued there in those 2 months. and 40% of them were in april. this is a benefit program. and already means, uh, in may, they already reached. uh, up to fifty percent in the mortgage structure. and so, in fact, they worked, only preferential programs, the government took very promptly, on behalf of the president, measures to support demand, and we saw that it started to work from may 1. new mortgage program 9% discount program, uh, and was

extended and upgraded family mortgage and until the end of the twenty-third year was extended and so. this means that it has balanced once plus the key rate has played back. now it is already nine and a half market. the rate starts to go down, too, around 10.5. we see that now the first 2 months 2 2 weeks there e march we we see that the demand for mortgages is recovering and we expect that it will, of course, recover and there will be mortgage loans on average per month under mortgage programs. well, somewhere to stand out. eh, normal. i think such a grandmaster, there are 120-130 thousand credits. in a month somewhere 23-23-25.000, this is preferential mortgage programs. that is, under mortgage programs, so now, uh, demand is recovering, we see it, and as a result, it means, in general, it is starting to resume again. project finance output new projects, which devoted two months to melo, stopped and the whole

system is already starting to work. she is now just coming to the market and supply starts to follow demand. well, it should be noted that the seer still decided that in april and may there was a subsidized rate for the project. up to fifteen percent we saw somewhere in april. as an operator or a program, it was in demand somewhere between 6-7 billion. we approximately expect that we will allocate fifteen percent for subsidizing. now she already returned back, uh, 12 uh 12.5% ​​in the initial rate for project financing. and as for construction, there was a special rate, where there was a special filling of concealing accounts. they trio did not stop on these projects. she found the average rate there. well, maybe it has risen by half a percent, but somewhere around 3.5%, today. here is such a special rate of projects, where today a good filling from sparks has helped to support practically until tomorrow. yes, in our opinion, now everything has stabilized and naturally, of course, the government is discussing it. uh, next steps, but

now uh, we are looking forward to this year somewhere we will come out. uh, maybe, uh, a million million one hundred thousand loans there. we expect that the president's instructions to increase the mortgage market by 2.5 trillion, as well as last year, it will be fulfilled, but for this it is necessary that somewhere around 3.5 trillion be issued. uh, there's a trillion mortgages and somewhere around 700-800. eh, billions. it will be extinguished and somewhere in this vein, we will work, but what was discussed at the working group, of course, and i also think that the time is right when it is necessary more measures seriously and long-term support, because we can't all the time and the builder in order for us to plan for a long time he must see. eh, let's say. how much is valid what program what will be the demand, because the cycle is 2 1/2 and 3 years construction of a residential house and definitely. he must understand what will happen in 2 years. if he understands that there the preferential program will end

on december 20 there e of the second year. what's next? that is, we need, of course, and this was discussed today, but this is a topic that should be discussed. and he understands in silence and announces himself, so as not to disturb all the time, the mortgage market, as we have already talked about. what is slowly going down, but after the key rate, rates on preferential mortgages will decrease and by how much, of course. well, you know, it's most likely, uh, a subsidized mortgage rate, it 's tied to, most likely, the cost of the ufz. today we see it 80.5%. add one and a half percent. you will be approximately value for money exactly value for money. uh, today you can navigate according to the federal law. i think that it will go down, of course, now there are already some banks of 10 and 5 10.7 in this range, of course, the market

rate is such, it is comfortable, and we have seen when it is below the market 10. this is some kind of psychological struggle of 8.5, a somewhere means on average here. in these record years, we saw, which means it was just february of last year, that the market price was already 8.5, and preferential 6.5 and plus family six. there it came out 5.9 with the far east 2%. that is, it gave such an impulse to demand, people came, but we must bear in mind that here be a balance, because we also cannot deny the fact that over these two years the price has increased 1.5 times and practically, which means that affordable housing has returned again and somewhere for the 19 year and today a family of two. it takes 3.8 years to save up for such an ordinary apartment there. this, of course, is also very important, and all measures that stimulate demand must pay attention to this, as well as

appropriate measures and proposals. well, i can’t help but note that we also see that the developer would also have to not only wait for endless support, but we must also start practicing. seek and reserves to withdraw more housing, because we see in the twenty-first year that the profitability and profit shown by the developer. she was also very serious there for 200 billion rubles. and naturally, of course, no one says that they should earn. but if you can build eight houses and earn. why do you need to build 10 , you understand, if i can balance it with this demand when i have an artificial one, so there is a very good balance and government here. here today on rebellion deputy prime minister. i just said that the acceleration of the construction cycle, the withdrawal and disclosure of the potential of those lands for which there is a permit, but not yet in construction, and the consciousness of infrastructure that is ahead of the pace of this infrastructure menu and many, many

, just what the second part of ours was asked at the beginning today's work was devoted to about 6-7 signed an agreement by the constituent entities of the russian federation on the use of infrastructure loans well, ours, which we give through infrastructure bonds, that is, we go to the market, borrow money and issue 4% interest. this is bashkortostan today is a big project. we have signed with them this nizhny novgorod region, which is new there, a smart city, there, uh, a microdistrict, an entire city will be built and a second one on the campus. these are a number of issues that we signed there today with such large regions, and with kabardino-balkaria and with various regions, and signed a new draft. e from the arkhangelsk region and the ministry of the far east where the ministry will be the far eastern concession for the first time from more, that is, we will give, and 50% of the return will be made by the ministry of construction and the ministry of the far east, this is the magadan region. today this

means sakhalin. in general, somewhere we now have about 17 projects that have been signed with 25 constituent entities of the russian federation. in general, it is difficult for 22 million m² of housing, this infrastructure, in my opinion, this school, kindergartens, hospitals. uh roads, engineering to various social centers. uh, something that affects the quality of the urban environment. well, that is, these infrastructure bonds. achieve of course. right in

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ivan the terrible should have thrown it away. we are not in the middle ages. petersburg at the international economic forum. i remember, so that we continue to follow everything that happens here and, of course, tell our viewers about everything in detail, listen to the opinion of the most authoritative experts and right now on our air is an interview with deputy chairman of the russian government dmitry grigorenko dmitry yuryevich hello hello life without checks is reality or illusion, after all the main question is checks are needed or not? and what kind of feedback is the business giving you here,

actually, to answer the question. do we need checks, but in general we should probably decide and agree on a goal. why checks checks can't be ends in themselves. well, either, if it is such, it is at least debatable. if not strange, verification is still a tool for achievement. well, some goal or one of the tools to achieve. the goals here are the question of what purpose. and in our opinion, or in my opinion, the main goal in general, in principle, of both verification and, as such, the control and supervisory activity itself is the creation of an environment in which the current rules, laws, norms, and laws are voluntarily executed . ready-made and, uh, everyone likes when the rules are understandable simple and they are observed, respectively, if we start from the goal-setting that verification is one of the tools to encourage voluntary voluntary compliance with existing

rules, including business, when all this looks, of course, perfect differently. and what am i saying that then the answer to the question is whether or not a check is needed depends on why it is, that is, if it is just to check someone who follows the rules, you, of course, they don’t needed, it's pointless. moreover, because of the state money, of course, this will annoy and cause massive questions. and if this is a test in the case when someone breaks the rules and we can’t learn to live differently, we understand that a business that breaks the rules includes certain competitive advantages with a business that does not break them, then, of course, a check is needed here the first thing we did was spent, really. uh, we had a regulator on behalf of the president. what we have been systematically doing for several years is that, firstly, we inventory of all existing rules and requirements that a business must apply in the course of its activities. it turned out that

such rules and requirements. uh, more than 300.000 318.000. just think about the numbers 318.000 the requirement is correct and the third of them the third was declared unusable incorrectly and not relevant was canceled by the tomboy of the business itself only because we brought order to the rules, corrected them and removed irrelevant excess business, annually saves at least 200 billion rubles . just on the controller form control oversight . this is directly the checks themselves, the checks themselves . and we understand that, firstly, it must be transparent and understandable. ideally, in digital form with minimal costs for business, but these are, as it were, such fundamental or obvious requirements for verification. yes, but by and large it’s not so much the verification itself that irritates or the verification procedure itself, it’s

annoying misunderstanding. why they check me, but they don’t check him, or why they came to me in general what is important to check here is that at the legislative level, all supervisory authorities, both federal and regional municipalities, have switched to a risk-based approach. what is the idea, and the idea is very simple, that any inspection is appointed for a reason, it must be approved by each supervisory authority and this is done the risks, subject to which the inspection is appointed. what is risk risk is the threat that something will be violated and it is impossible to prevent it except for checks. this is a violation, well, either fix. in the car, to change the logic of the behavior of some kind of businessman or enterprise is a task. don't just jump into these risks because the business isn't crazy. they are eager to

break everything, or there are no nords there, or they are not eager to check them, this, of course, is a task. it is not easy to introduce these risks into every supervisory. and also publish them, so that the business understands in advance somewhere the line, for which the check will be carried out, then appears. that, the very transparency of the understanding of why the audit is being carried out. we we understand that control and supervision is a one-way road. there are always two sides. and, of course, without feedback, it is impossible to make quality control of supervision or quality responses, so feedback should be better than digitalization here. it’s impossible to think up, so on the portal of public services we have a family service launched until last year with a complaint by the way, we already have about 4,000 complaints filed there, despite the moratorium that was introduced this year and