if it is focused on domestic demand, and so on and so forth, but it seems to me that this is a long way that we have traveled, we have not come at the expense of the fact that we determined that we need to develop mineral fertilizers, metals, oil refining, and so on. and due to the fact that we have built institutions. we gave an opportunity to private business, in general, to do what it does. maybe and should do. we have built, by and large, a national financial system. yes, she was not without flaws, probably, as it were, yes. well, in general, such was the paradigm. here and when we talk about the new economy. us first. we need to decide further on this course. what we do, we still rely on national capital, we still rely on building an open economy. well, yesterday morning, one of the speakers there flashed something that , like, they played globalization. well , a little so to say, they deceived us, yes, and it seems that let's do more internal affairs. well, it seems to me that the setting is also not very correct there. but somewhere. well, you need to build your own rules, just

play by your own rules in globalization, but no one cancels globalization. it seems to me that these are the answers to these questions. we must answer ourselves, based on this will be. in general, and in general, it is clear what kind of new economy we have, that in fact, we are taking what we have and adapting it to those realities. yes, we understand that the task is in parallel with some questions. we will have to reassess the technological issues of the technological agenda, our own technologies, and so on. but from the fact that us there on the slide was that we export electronics. there are many times less, but we can tell you. let's let it be many times larger, but we understand that this is a decade-long process. and we just like that from what we write in the documents. uh , we won’t be there at once, so it seems to me that there is such a question. calm now, it seems to me, the process that we went through there is the third mit - 3 months. on the one hand , we worked very intensively and indeed the forecast was different and there is a degree of pessimism changed. but in general, we worked quietly. and it really paid

off. now we are also calmly but very intensively working on strategizing with an understanding of where these priorities will be, what needs to be emphasized, and so on. but if we do not answer for ourselves the questions of what kind of economy we are building, we will not reaffirm our commitment to what we have been doing for the past 20 years and to what has proven itself effectively. we will find ourselves in some kind of uncertainty. if we confirm, then it will be clear that there is no need to try. there since import substitution of the state to get into every industry in every technology and try everything for business. there, business is all about subsidizing, as it now has a gigantic request, no matter what the problem is. let's give a grant. let's just make it normal. uh, there the totem man supports, because all that is less money is required. everything is fine. here but nevertheless, indeed, we will create, as it were, a condition for real business. let's not interfere with him and so on. everything will go well and plus to this, let's also, no matter how shy away, then we have national projects there. we have an infrastructure development program there. regions, there is no need

now, as if at the moment, to say that i am already anton germanovich. how would i give a pass there. yes, there is no money and let's cut everything. let's calmly implement what we started in any, in the end it is an investment in our own country and in any situation, no matter what is around. that 's right. uh, it will give back, so the call is such as not to shy away from side to side and be very careful about what we we do thank you, it means, if it’s possible, after all , uh, uh, we’ll have to shy away, because we’ve got a lot of hooks and we’ll have to seriously change something now if we calmly implement what we implemented before, but it’s unlikely we wish him a scenario of some kind, if you can praise. leave it anyway. this is how you see changes in the gdp structure of the export structure. if you look at this site, we see we have three, three, well, four positions, yes. the first is mineral products. 49% of our exports are chemical products, metals, and

thank god we have such a big one. uh, the volume of exports is the agricultural competitiveness that was built in a year. and so, as you can see, here is the structure of gdp. as you can see in the thirtieth year, what will change is obvious that, well, colleagues say that, most likely, for us as a whole, well, it will be difficult to keep the structure of exports. well, the structure of gdp production is what you see inside. uh, here's what will change to what or this structure will remain. but i think that this structure will certainly change, but here we are now about dreams or plans in dreams. we can dream that we export machinery and equipment, which means it will be comparable to the export of mineral resources, but we understand that this is not the case, colleagues. yes, we can really effectively produce supplies, and mineral resources, metals

, chemistry, and so on, and we exist in chains, and no matter how we say it, it means, well, this is our participation in the division in the world division of labor, and we do not we refuse, because the refusal of this means a drastic drop in the standard of living. we we will be embedded in these chains. therefore, we need to continue doing what we can do effectively, and we need to look for other partners, including importing machinery and equipment. yes, he should cut down. we must have our own technologies. but this does not mean that we will be able to produce the entire line of all technologies, but for a market of 220 million people there, if we take everything from this. the physical space with our colleagues, who are watching us, so to speak, who are ready to integrate with us, and so on. here but this is not enough to even, as it were, produce and fully provide an average mainline aircraft there. e with payback solely due to the market. it will even have to be dated. and by world standards, this is not the most complex product. at

the moment, therefore, it seems to me, let's kind of dream about anything, but plan realistically. thank you thank you very much mr. dmitry nikolaevich your area of ​​responsibility is science and technology. well , it's all digital. that's how you see and it's obvious that we have potential in this direction. well, without the development of science and technology education. uh, we, of course, cannot change the structure of the gdp in any way, if i may have a few words of your vision. uh, what will russia look like 20-30? well , i can’t agree with maxim gennadievich in everything , that dreams and plans should somehow differ. i don't really understand, it seems to me that it should be the same thing. here we are exhausted by strategizing for 2 years we have been strategizing constantly. but it's good. and

most importantly, the question around us, which we attack all the time, what do we demand from ministry of economic development in order to give us all the same conditions and forecasts. uh, well, when forecasts, yeah, about what? well, i myself have a chance, yes, in any strategizing there should be, if they are , as it were, pessimistic in advance and such a vector is set that we, no matter what we do, we will not develop our mechanical engineering, we will not break our electronics well then, in general - then what is the point of dreaming and striving for the future. well, of course, this is not so, and maxim gennadievich exaggerated here a little in order to play along with the discussion. eh, how to unfold, because we see that quite ambitious plans are being made, but what a situation we have with technology . when there were rather weak technologies in the world distribution chain, their boxed solutions often bought our scientific discoveries, we continue to be proud of it. they

were at the heart of those technologies that were then sold to us only for much, much greater values, the second factor, which it should be taken into account that we have a rather small internal market for a gigantic territory with huge potential. here we say that we actually have a civilization. e surplus. i spoke about this, so russia has always been the envy of all western countries, we have a huge amount of all resources, and that's why we sell them. well, we still have clean water, huge drinking water reserves. we have agriculture. you see, it is developing very well and many different things that actually and uh, first of all, we are trying to attach to market. but as far as technologies are concerned, we consumed them with pleasure. we got hooked on them, and this is a painful process of transition to our own technologies, and it is now going on all over the world, and 70% of the investment in r & d, but traditionally comes from business.