to work on mistakes, there are lessons to learn to draw conclusions, but now you need to put all this aside and just make a decision in the most different ways konstantinovich, what problems did you encounter? what decisions did you make? after all, you have a completely different asset management model under management. yes , the asset is completely different, but the management system. they're alike. yes, what is an asset for you? this is an enterprise, an enterprise, an economic entity. this is a business unit, and for the most part, these business units are aimed at making a profit and management models and agriculture and wagon building and bow. here are the general management models, and they are similar everywhere, and they just need to be done with high quality. and what is management is, first of all, the formation of high-quality teams, because , uh, without a good team. you won't do anything like you had.

there are wonderful processes and something, if you have the wrong people nothing will happen. that is , it is that it is necessary to select the right team in a crisis, the requirements for management are changing, because there are people who work well in a stable environment. and there are people who work well in a crisis. here are the reins of government in a crisis. yes, you need to give it to people who know how to work in a crisis, and then, when the system normalizes, the situation needs to be transferred to those who work in the stationary system, because well, here, uh, let's take a large company there, there is an accountant, for example, and there is a pr person. but it's not enough that these are different professions. these are completely different psychotypes of people, and you are from a good accountant, you will never make good food. conversely, it's just different psychotypes. yes, how is there an extrovert to break the poor introvert, who sits in his box there, yes, and works, uh, with a computer and bring him out to speak to the public. well, it's to cripple to cripple a person's soul. you don't have to do this. and it must be right. to take by psychotype by

capitation by value is the first thing, the second is to build transparent, simple, fast , clear processes. it is clear to designate clear rules of the game and, thirdly, to set up a control system that is not excessive in terms of key indicators. no need. here's to create some these crazy systems, how thousands of some indicators are controlled. you will never do this in such detail, if you have the right team, you don’t need to control it. there, for a thousand variables, key indicators set everything to the point. and if you have a team that you need to show and control thousands of, then you are bad management. you have a bad team. right now there is a lot of talk about the need and inevitable structural reform of the economy. and here what factors, in your opinion, will primarily influence internal or external you know, honestly, i’m always afraid of such theses of structural reform – global restructuring, because it’s not clear what’s behind them, well, how it goes. you should always start

at each of your workplaces, you should start with yourself. here you don't have to wait until someone is uh, smart. uh, the government, which is smart, but uh, wait until it's from somewhere, and some kind of wonderful such a magical system. here he will create and give it to everyone, as i don’t know, the lord god will say the 10 commandments. live like this, well, this does not happen in every workplace begin to respond to these crisis phenomena according to the same principles, that is, quickly and clearly not to be afraid, honestly and openly. that's all. here it is basic. this is the basic secret of anti-crystal management. nothing new. trust me, no one will. and you are now considering the current situation for the trust, how it is possible from the new and there are no opportunities, what can you do now, what to shoot, you know, we, firstly , have our own strategy, which was still approved before all the crises. and despite neither the

covid crisis nor the current crisis, we we still plan to execute and with a high probability. we will fulfill it like this. we don't even plan to revise this year's business plan. that is, we even have a business class this year, despite the fact that everything has gone awry. yes, something that could go wrong. and we, for example, are still planning to cope with it there, yes, even this year. therefore, the mouse is focused, and in terms of points of growth, and the state will need us. for what can state organizations need the state of some kind new tasks? well, you are ready for this, so we will not need it. this means that we will continue to realize once again the tasks that were previously set. therefore, from the point of view of the points, we are simply saving, so far, we are in the newest situation in the newest. we understand a little. well, well, so real, yes, responsibility, with which we are globally faced. we are so far of all the consequences. they just don’t feel it physically,

so and all the challenges you are there until the end, as the economy does not understand, some time must pass from the very beginning of the bank. trust bank is not core assets, was created with a deadline, but now in the current situation. and, is there already an idea that such an organization should work without an urgent current situation further. you know this issue, probably less to us more air conditioners, because clearly created. yes, what are the market signals, well, let's do it. exactly. here we are with a very high probability, as i began to fulfill my financial strategy, but we are definitely in that period of time. e, in which we originally planned to finish work with assets, are definitely not finished. ah, that is there will still be a whole pool of assets with which it will be necessary to continue working beyond the period that we initially, as it were, measured out. but the good thing is that the financial strategy will be implemented. yes, that is, the financial goals that the shareholder has set will be achieved, but work with assets will continue,

this is inevitable. what form will it be? in what form is this the question of the twenty-fourth year. uh, here, but this will have to be dealt with, because, well, enough of the task will remain. and it's us, uh, well, we don't take it yet times the current situation, because we have it well, so objectively to the end. yes, once again we do not fully understand it yet. we will look at the prospects, including for the 24th year alexander konstantinovich thank you very much for a very big one. the transformation of the world order is discussed at many sessions and now we have another interesting session on our air new realities of the new world with the support of pjsc vtb i am very glad to welcome you all. thank you very much for coming we are opening the vtb session at the st. petersburg economic forum

it is called the new realities of the new world without rules. well, really. uh, i think everyone has noticed in recent months. we are witnessing a very large-scale transformation of the world order, tectonic changes in the established rules of the game in general of the entire architecture of the world order. here is our task today together with the speakers who, as you can see , represent. well, all, probably, key areas, not only the socio-economic agenda, all the key areas of our life with you. we must together assess the nature and depth of these, er, changes, these changes. which will they matter? what are the consequences for russia and we want to formulate new priorities for business and the state and the role of our country in this very new world, in which we find ourselves defining new rules of the game, we will be with our guests. yes , introduce andrey kostin president chairman of the board of vtb bank maxim oreshkin assistant to the president of the russian federation valery sidorenko first deputy chief of staff of the

government of the russian federation vladimir kiriyenko ceo vk yaroslav kuzminov, coordinator of the government's expert council and scientific director of the higher school of economics, valery gergiev , artistic director, director of the mariinsky theater, and grigory karasin, chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs, in a nutshell, i will literally say about the rules of the session. we have a short one, so i will ask all speakers to pack up right away. well, somewhere in 5-7 minutes to follow. i'll be in charge of the timing andrey leonidovich let's start by saying that you give us a little bit, maybe explain why is selecting a session topic with a question mark at the end, what does that mean? that some rules of the game still remain. the question mark you put is strange, i would put an exclamation mark because in my opinion after february 14, especially we are really confronted with the position of the west, which is essentially a game without rules and no. eh, as if the

rules that have developed even by the west themselves no longer work. but because all the agreements that well, what kind of wto is there? yes, when there are sanctions trade on lawlessness, absolutely or financial spheres disconnecting banks from the systems. what are there? excuse me, the agreements may be within the framework of any existing ones. i think that the situation is quite understandable, and these rules were set in the west. and when russia began a new, as it were, its own stage of life in the early nineties. we were forced to connect to these rules, and we connected to some of them for a long time , we were connected there for decades , but we didn’t set the rules of the game, and how could we only, i repeat, connect to those mechanisms that were, but also this, probably, suited us until a certain time, until the west began to push us further, squeeze further, or, as

we now think, in general, how to nullify russia. you know, i've met before. uh, with a very, very, very, i will not give a surname, but a very famous person in the field of western media is the editor-in-chief of one of the coolest western gases. he said the west made three huge mistakes. the first inclusion in nato of the baltic states is the second pull-up of the rope by georgia. and the third is what happened on ukraine yes and these are the moments that meant that life is a space for russia, even within those limits that were left very little. and therefore , we simply said these rules that we were not satisfied with, and another life began, and the sooner we do well, life is different, the sooner we begin to rebuild the economy and politics, i don’t know social life. eh, yes, even the musical valeria will tell about it. yes, those are probably the best and we will be able to formulate new principles of a new policy,

but we will approach these principles negotiate with the west about some rules that should still come to replace. here is this game without rules today. thanks, i understand correctly. ah, what has changed has changed about all the rules of your field. well, i don’t see any that have been preserved in a big way, i don’t see it, but this process has been going on for a long time 10 commandments to say something by maxim, it means, apparently yes, there are some commandments, but such a beloved one. come on, you have determined, in fact, you are going across, in general, the scenario mine, because i just wanted to ask all the speakers now, and answer such a to blitz . here is some main key unshakable rule in your field. now has changed or canceled maxim let's well, now you took me by surprise with this

question. i think what is actually left is what has always been, but not everyone understood this, that well, by and large, each country should put its own interests above all else, this is the main rule that we were now beginning to realize more and more more countries in the world in general. this is a rule that still applies . and what has been canceled has been canceled, respectively, the opposite rule is that someone, i 'm sorry, will help you. please call me gregory, how do you feel? i would like to shade the same thought about which andrei actually spoke. we, the russian federation, have not changed our rules, we remain faithful to international law, the charter of the united nations, we strive to be respected, we want to make sure that our proposals on

strategic security are considered. seriously and not fictitiously, so the rules remain the same, we will insist that these rules must be observed, and in this vein will act. uh, russia's foreign policy thank you, grigory the former went ours in london, played a huge role by reading in the development of relations today under british sanctions. here are the rules. what they have to change at the end of the session, we will write what has been canceled, what has changed is the most important thing. there have always been unshakable rules in science and education there is a global cloud of results global contact knowledge cloud. everyone is admitted to it, it is free. and everyone is encouraging access to this

cloud access contacts. you see that for the first time, perhaps in the history of the world, attempts are being made to exclude russian and belarusian scientists from this system of contacts from the universal cloud to exclude our students from exclusion and not to give the opportunity to see new knowledge and present this fundamental change. it seems to me that this change is of the same magnitude as an encroachment on someone else's property, as extrajudicial announcements of people found guilty there, that is, the absence.

all the instruments all the values ​​on which the system of trust in the international system was based, from currency from property rights to uh openness, uh education of science, and i think valery can say the same about the culture of art. let's collapse the rules that were called contracts international contracts, if somewhere in the mariinsky theater we have a lot of experience, we were the fastest moving team in the world , not only in the country. uh, well, everything in due time, we toured 90-100 days a year. and this applied to all five continents. and now e one rule helps us. we can

concentrate on work at home, the main rule that no one can cancel is high quality and smart scripts. building your activity. always in any circumstances will keep you. e. well, let's say not at the bottom, but closer to the ceiling, you will stay on top. so, you will be encouraged and in demand. so you can, if in our case, it's called so keep the teams or keep their best traditions and, again, quality, then here it is absolutely achievable. this rule cannot be canceled; in order to cancel it, one must physically stop, er, act. uh, why is this situation, but, until we see not beyond the horizon, and even theoretically, but

the time is alarming, therefore, i am sure that perestroika has already completely changed, we have gone all at home, a huge family of artists. we are all in the regions, we already had 25 regions of russia starting somewhere in the middle of april apparently. and yes, i was on the vision in new york. now uh, well, let's say tomsk is one of my favorites cities - this is a terrific university and kazan and orenburg well, i will not enumerate, but 25 regions. we've already passed. uh, starting in mid-april. if we add another 20, this will be an unprecedented year in the history of the mari theater, we will again be the most touring group in the world. we are only touring in other borders, but we are not going to perform weaker in tomsk than in new york. understand me, please, we have known gregory for a long time and got to know each other, as a rule, after our concerts and very

sonorous ones. u uk here also apply for another message. but we met a long time ago 25 years ago. as you can see, we are now in st. petersburg and are not very worried, so this rule should be destroyed. perhaps you even act accurately accurately. i'd even say, erm. impressive. here in art, either boring or interesting, that's boring. now it doesn't work for us. even if how much is so well planned, we need to do something unusual. bright and everything will be fine. and i must say that these are not what we just said does not wear hopeless character. this is not a hopeless situation, but there are forces in the world. they are constantly growing and they are not only in countries that have not

joined the sanctions that oppose. that trend is broken the basic principles of the functioning of the scientific community education of culture, there are, uh, a number of attempts. dreams of figures to declare that there are red lines that they would not want to cross. do you remember the statement of the secretary of the treasury in the united states that the idea is to confiscate, uh, not freeze confiscations er hmm russian avars. uh, it will just cross out trust in the uh financial system in the united states that is, and these are not the people who are fighting for us, they are fighting to preserve those tools of trust that

stabilize global society, the global economy allows them to develop. about trust in general, uh, separately , we will talk later about what is happening globally with trust. and the blitz, i remind you that we still have a blitz valery valeryevich and your some kind of basic rule that has been canceled either and as some of our speakers chose to choose, then the rules that remained basic. no, rather, the time has been canceled, or remained, i don’t know how to say. we have, of course, but the speed has increased significantly, and a number of procedures have been canceled, which previously seemed unshakable to us. and e obligatory now everything is compressed. and uh. well, a job in government. eh, it wasn't boring before. here is her now. so, you can’t exactly call it boring, so speed is speed again. thank you, vladimir sergeevich , you are not bored now either. i'm like this

i suspect. oh you have a minus. what is the most important rule? i think the main rule is to change the concept of digital sovereignty, that is, we have been talking for a long time about the fact that there are a number of technologies in which we can use world practices and experience, and there were many programs aimed at building and developing our own the solution here is that the current changes have clearly shown that the frontier of real digital sovereignty only allows you to feel confident if you are developing. is this a decision on my own, or is this a partner solution that is being developed in russia or is an open source. all other alternative methods sooner or later lead to a situation of dependencies, and which you do not control the process, so this creates huge challenges for the development of the industry, but on the other hand. this is a great opportunity to create your own products that will truly ensure the independence of the digital sovereignty of our country. in

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inside russia and for development within russia is it possible to say that our economy will still remain open and how would it look like this is a new openness? well, look western colleagues we would very much like us to become a closed economy. yes, they do everything as it seemed to them for this, but their problems are that i then participate a lot was said, they believed in their exclusivity. and the fact that their status - this is not a consequence. what kind of objective reality? and just, uh, the status given from above to them, but we perfectly understand that there is a status must always be supported by trust in the constitutions. now it was said about the institutions of property about other institutions trust in the currency, which was actually undermined by gigantic mistakes in macroeconomic policy from 20-21 and the global wave of inflation trust in the

political system, we see that the political system in western countries. now the society is fragmented fragmented unification of society does not happen all this trust is lost, respectively, and the status. it immediately loses its uniqueness, so they wanted to isolate, but let's say this step, in fact. now it is very clearly seen that through losses they isolate themselves. less and less they want to conduct relations with them in the form in which they were before. yes, andrey is lazy, he is right. dollars, and everyone is used to it. i even said that the dollar is not a weapon, the dollar is a drug that they put on. uh, the whole world in terms of settlements, banking maintenance, systems and so on. eh, of course. uh, quitting a drug is never an easy story, but the realization but the realization that it is a drug, not a blessing. it is now growing in the world in most of this world, so they wanted to isolate it would not work, and russia

would be an open economy. we have many partners. and, of course, here it is in this new openness. it's a matter of building infrastructure. yes, that’s what andrey ionidovich said, and the calculation and logistics are a little more to be done now, but it seems to me that it’s important to look. yes, now we are trying to simply build a structure according to the traditional ones. by the canal before that there's an interbank city of wearing, you know some kind of currency that would be at the center of this operation, but it seems to me that it is the whole story. we will need to look at a new angle, take out a function that should use the infrastructure and implement it using new technological approaches. i think our technology companies. they will help us in this, that is, i won’t go into details to reveal yet, that is, history, but once again at a new technological level to create an infrastructure that is comfortable for all participants and that are independent of everyone

participants. because the new world is a different discovery, it is built exclusively on equality and mutual respect. e of each other's interests, maxim, if you use this allegory of yours about a painful refusal of a drug. yes, painful enough cases of arization. is it possible to say that, uh, the most difficult period is a critical period for the health of our economy, we have already passed that the collapse that those who imposed sanctions were counting on we already called it. yes, and further it is possible according to a more or less already formed medical protocol to continue our economic recovery with you technological health. well , obviously, the most difficult periods. it was mars in general in all respects in all areas. i remember, look, they sat a lot with vtb bank and discussed the situation and how stressed vtb bank was and the withdrawal of deposits and much more happened. well, the bank coped, now it works fine.