okay, actually at the global level, this is the sg agenda. this is an energy transition. we are abandoning our plans because of these restrictions, whether they are somehow curtailed or not, you know today, only at the fitting that just took place, all participants discussed this issue, that the climate green agenda has faded in a few years. uh, if it used to be green, now, well, as if on the world agenda, it has turned into colors. khaki, although i look, well, you yourself remember that in the last forum here it is there is a central theme number one. today, this topic is being heard, of course, it is not in this form, but on a large scale. and by the way, even many energy companies have reconsidered their views on the icg trip to a green point of view. i will not say that they completely refused. they mostly refuse the pace that politics imposes on them in the first place, and so do the oil companies. investment funds, uh,

yes, and consumers have already begun to strongly object to these tracks, because this only leads to an increase, costs, respectively, the consumer. just started washing me once a week in europe and he told us the bottom really. approach this issue smoothly, and uh economically justified, not upsetting the balance, but creating the conditions for a really green er, energy transition, which today it is going on, it will go through anyway, so that there is a share of a pure piece of energy such as the sun, the wind, increased it must be done, uh, create conditions for this. uh, economic fisheries are not artificial, there and in this house participate well of course, but we are already participating in this. for example, i can give an example, and the share of renewal from energy points in the energy balance increased by almost 30% last year. well, that is, we have already reached power. there is and talk about electricity 5.2 gb it started. that is, it is already in our energy 2% and

will also continue to increase, but we are doing it carefully and supporting development. e, progressively, including by creating conditions for our industry for our domestic technologies, without violating balance in the electric power industry, without driving up expenses on it, because this will only lead to growth, so we need to do everything very smoothly, as we have envisaged. this is an energy strategy. thank you very much. i think it's always a little more than that. i think that this course is indeed our course for affordable energy, after all, energy. these are the foundations of the entire economy. and how accessible without it. right now we see what is happening in the same europe. this movement, that is, movement happens without energy, in order to move forward it is necessary that there are energy energies are gone. thank you very much for our communication. another interview with

the prosecutor general igor viktorovich hello. thank you very much for taking the time to come to our studio, especially since you have a very large program, working here within the framework of the entire russian international economic forum. you just took part in the session, where the topic of its right to protection was called, it was just about the possibility, i mechanisms that businessmen can use today, who are facing a variety of complex situations. they are understandable. they talk a lot here, and you, in particular, spoke about the need during this session. well, what if we bring together all the existing support mechanisms so that they are understandable and accessible for business. here tell us about this idea, service. one window, right? if i may say so within the framework, lord support. good afternoon. ah. i can tell you that now the session is over. i'm very pleased that you watched and know what it was about, uh, conversation, discussion, we exchanged opinions there. i believe it

it is very important in the modern world, taking into account the sanctions that have fallen illegally on our economy for each of our citizens , for each company for our business to exchange views to talk about these problems that currently exist, protecting business is one of the priority supervisory areas of work in the prosecutor's office on an equal footing with others, but one of the priorities. there are certainly a lot of measures that we are taking to protect businesses. the one- stop shop, it seems to me, will help businesses choose those support measures that are provided for by order of the president of the russian federation and are accordingly implemented by the government. and on what principles, on the principles of openness, so that each entrepreneur would know what support measures can be applied to him, what support measures can be

used, because at the present time. we talked about this very much. a large number of regulatory changes to the legislation are also adopted by entrepreneurs. for example, it is quite difficult for a self-employed person. lara's he can use it, and when the program gives him available support measures, of course, it will be much easier and more efficient for him, and most importantly, it will reduce the time between making a decision by this entrepreneur and correspond to the topic with the measures that he will need, given that here you are now they said that the protection of entrepreneurs is one of the priority areas, including the prosecutor's office. how often have you been contacted in recent months. how often do you encounter the fact that the rights of entrepreneurs are violated. how often do you have to provide support, you know, uh, the prosecutors on the ground did not focus on the constituent entities of the russian federation, uh, to meet with the business community at least once a week, my instruction is to meet

once every 2-3 weeks, but the prosecutor’s office is going to the site, well quite a lot of entrepreneurs who exist, who work in the region, are invited. in a particular region a of the banking community of retail network networks of some business of different representatives of the administration of the subject federation, uh, commissioner for business rights in the region, well, a number of other officials, and all together, they are discussing the problems that currently exist specifically in this region, you understand, uh, it is very important that business and government hear each other each other and listened to each other, and only then can we all work out systemic measures a and supervisory measures and, of course, legislative measures to support business in responding to situations that

arise right now at this moment, because all prosecutors are oriented to live together with the people, the problems that exist in a particular region and, of course, the prosecutor general ’s office, i put into a single system and i’m already thinking how to extend these systemic measures somewhere, extend supervisory measures to actions on the territory of our country as a whole, since so, in general , good feedback. do you think there are enough existing legal mechanisms in this area, maybe something needs to be changed, because the time is such that it requires changes. yes you know and here going back, uh, to your question, i can say that business very often, uh, certainly reacts and complains, and i myself receive people in the regions. uh, for the first quarter of this year. if we speak in numbers, yes, here, returning to your question, and we brought decisions on more than

3,000 appeals from entrepreneurs. this is basically a big number. why, with the same periods of last year, last year it was a little less a little less it was, uh, but this is precisely the official figure, regardless of the meetings prosecutors with entrepreneurs, you understand, that is, they can meet and some problems are resolved, including without appeals, of course, because if a person speaks to the prosecutor’s eyes that there is a problem, the prosecutor takes action, of course, the entrepreneur can and and a written statement. what kind of contacts i receive people i personally receive at my receptions prosecutors receive them on a regular basis with field trips, uh, special groups. the so-called, who travel to the regions on a couple of instructions from me. that is, in basically, we have, uh, a system, the so

-called one-stop shop, when they go to the website of the prosecutor general's office write in person. and here, tell me, by the way, igor viktorovich, a lot of businessmen or read, what to write on the site you know, how to grandfather's village. you will receive some kind of official reply and, of course, this applies not only to the general prosecutor's office, but to any department in general, there are a lot of people who believe that this is a formality in your case, as i understand it, this is not so, you know the appeal very many come to the prosecutor general's office of the prosecutor's office unconditionally. i can't read all these messages alone. well, it means a formed system, in which all appeals that come to the prosecutor general 's office. they certainly are. uh, they are considered and considered on the merits , and the most important thing for me, as the prosecutor general, is that there should be a concrete result on this appeal, if there is none, there are certain steps. if it does not work, then later the employees of the prosecutor's office look after this appeal,

it is necessary to achieve every result of a real change in the situation. with this appeal, we are now talking, as it were, in general terms. here is an example of a citizen. what are the problems of high prices for housing and communal services tariffs, respectively, i can read this appeal. i give instructions and the verification activities begin, if they lead to the fact that we see that the tariffs are really too high. well, it is in most cases. unfortunately, so here are the citizens, response measures are being taken accordingly. you know my the task is to create a system so that everything works. here i was talking on the forum, like clockwork, so that i read the complaints. i have a lot of complaints that i give personal instructions to the appeal of citizens and unconditionally monitor how they were carried out. what real rights of a citizen were restored at his request? what happened and most importantly, to

really help a person, because if he turned to me as a general. the prosecutor's office to the prosecutor the prosecutor must understand what it means that a citizen has problems. they need help so all prosecutors are targeted and oriented by me helping people is the most important thing. here. i therefore, yes, uh, you know about this, you correctly said something somewhere, replies and so on. there are officials, and i tracked it. eh, they give, they don’t send a poem to people, for example, he addresses many times, controlling supervisory authorities or entrepreneurs. look at what officials write and send me answers. it is very interesting to read them. you know, it's like a poem, they copy each other's answers. here we must avoid these moments, because each appeal of each citizen it is individual, if a person writes. uh, they write to another body or to the prosecutor's office, which means that in the regions of the subjects of the federation

they should not send answers to the poem. you know, a citizen does not need this, a person feels that he should feel the measures that were taken at his request. it is then that the work will unconditionally and effectively work the prosecutor's office, or those officials, because here i can tell you not only about the employees of the prosecutor's office, but also about those supervising supervisory authorities who are still doing this one last question i have concerns he is an international operation, a lot including on the forum about it. it is said that it is understandable that the traditional ties familiar to us have been destroyed when it comes to the business of the social sphere of politics. but this also applies to the legal mechanisms of cooperation in this area. it seems to you that a lot of industries have been put on hold for obvious reasons. western partners, unfortunately, do not strive to comply with international law. but the existing mechanisms are being strengthened. many of

them are being strengthened. i know that you are the day before met with an egyptian colleague. and tell us how. if these negotiations, how is international cooperation in general now at the level of the prosecutor's office, do you generally do a lot of this as part of your work, does it exist, where? in what areas is there certainly cooperation, does it continue, because uh, despite the fact that our western colleagues are trying to destroy, uh, they are trying to destroy. ah, international law. we behave more decently in my opinion. but because those investments, for example, even by foreigners in the russian i emphasized that they are under reliable e-e control of the federation. uh, including the prosecutor general's office and our state. that's why e we have most of your attention. now we have focused on communication and interaction with those friendly countries with the prosecutor general's offices of friendly countries who want to interact and

see our unconditionally common goal in the fight against transnational crime, because ah, here i got the criminals for you. currently. they have no nationality. at they do not have any kind of commitment or predisposition to a particular state. they are engaged in the commission of crimes, and of course this is an association that includes people from different countries and they are all very savvy. they are well aware of the legislation of many countries, they act. we have a darknet on the internet, respectively, and, uh, a lot of crime. in this regard, cryptocurrencies are committed as well in the field of drug trafficking. they are legal guns. what are we very concerned about in this regard? undoubtedly. our interaction with the attorney general's offices. we will be friendly statesmen and will only increase, but i will tell you that a number of colleagues.

e from the prosecutor general's office, we previously communicated, they understand everything. communication continues, but it continues in a slightly different configuration, that is, it simply decreases, they are afraid to say anything about it to their declarations. there is absolutely no work, that is, everyone understands that it is necessary to fight and resist with joint efforts shoulder to shoulder transnational crime, because they have no pauses, they have no concept of a sanction, no sanction, they are doing what they are used to doing and fighting them, so the fight against crime must be continued. we continue to broadcast and in front of me, alexander

koreevsky still proposes, while we have a short pause, to discuss the current general situation in the global economy today. by the way, when german gref came to our studio and asked him if there would be a global recession, about which many people say, he is sure that it will definitely happen in some countries. here's what you think about the general current situation with, for example, gdp well, uh, alexandrov, we just talked about this in part. well, the minister said that no one needs expensive energy. and now the expensive energy in the world is doing because of political considerations. so the gdp slows down sharply while the recession of the world speech, it seems, is not going on. immediately, the imf and other austrians predict that there will simply be a slowdown in the economy , the recovery was very rapid after the pandemic, and it is more than 4%, uh, there is something not five. and now it's kind of like 3.6 3.8 go where is the world? hence, but this is a very sharp slowdown and such organizations are not very

slow to revise their forecasts, but obviously one fact, literally two years ago, two years ago, they said that oil above $ 70 per barrel is potentially, very dangerous for the world economy. various aspects, primarily due to inflation. and uh. we all understand perfectly well that the modern economy is affordable energy and e. now. i think the economy of things is up for auction and most likely if the situation in the energy markets is the situation, there are other areas of the pandemic. well, and so on is not normalizing, then, well, probably 100% there will be a global recession, and we see that the pace is slowing down very actively. that is, again, again, you need to look at different countries. uh, developing countries, developed so-called countries, which may already become not very developed. if they don't stop doing those stupid things of their politics now, they will stop doing these things from the outside they are doing. go to the ruble exchange rate, we see here today you and i watched, just in the morning , secateurs, as they opened from trading on the stock exchange,

56, in my opinion, and nine, and it was about that, a dollar was less than 60 euros. how long do you think this course will be. you know, it's a very complex issue. we have very little time now, i’ll say, so now , by the way, uh, thermal heating has also become, what ’s in my interview, and now the market rate, but it’s really a market one, but another thing is that market conditions are created not only er, they are created by the general state of the world economy and politics that exist, and therefore now there really are proposals that exceed demand and, accordingly, we see such a course, in particular. it could theoretically be even smaller. i do not exclude that, but there is a very very powerful such a technical analytical level of 48 rubles. for a dollar about it. this is the level of 15 years, just a and. uh, then after the surge at 86. here, after the events of the fourteenth year. we saw this one. on a rollback, then it is chopped in the range of 670 and so

on. i think there are a lot on this topic too. is now being discussed behind the scenes, and the statement has already been made by our representatives and the government, and so on, what is the optimal rate of 780 for us? i think again herman mud. today i said my position, but that by the end of the year, most likely, it will fall. yes, that would suit everyone. this is a common desire. i said so, so i think that while we're around here, we'll hang out with this course. uh, then he will still try, but weakens a little, because no one needs a strong weakening of the ruble, well, but uh, strong strengthening is also bad, so the range, 78 is some kind of optimal over here state of the economy. everything is now there and our balance of payments payments. well, and so on. yes, there is a balance. that's why i think it's somewhere in this area. it's just short that it was all of a sudden a condition of what's at all. we're going now, i suggest we watch an interview with uh, presidential plenipotentiary. here is the central

federal district. hello, i know that you were just in a session where you discussed how business is included in the implementation of national projects. that's how much he is in this work , of course, business is involved in this work from the very beginning and without it, it is probably impossible to achieve any of all the national development goals that the president set for us and we discussed how this work uh, adjust to improve in the new economic conditions. it is not clear that these conditions require from us a much greater degree of consolidation, business, society and the state, and it is understandable. what can be those goals that the business has for itself. uh, before that, i did not directly consider it as a priority. now they look at it differently, because there is really a rallying of society in all its layers and the solution of all tasks, and we, of course, understand that the development of the economy, whatever

happens around, remains one of our main priorities, and we we understand very well. what is likely in the face of unprecedented sociologist sanctions pressure, we will have to exchange our approaches to the economic police, and we just they talked about how this could be done, perhaps based on international experience, but nevertheless it works. we need in our russian conditions. and how can we break or modify this experience, based on our economic conditions. we know what is in the world. now the green agenda is very popular, which, of course, does not tolerate so much ecology, if we, on the contrary , pay attention to the abbreviation from g, then it is there and everything is gone, that is, the social issue and g this is shit, but not in the sense of the government. in terms of management and we looked at nature. yes, this agenda and we saw that , of course, it arose from the desire of a number

of countries to redistribute their use of the rental income received by resource-rich states such as russia, that is, we were originally on this agenda. eh, if i can say as a victim, but the ecological approach itself, of course, is very much in demand by society at any time. now , with the ecological consciousness of our citizens, it is very high and in no case should we refuse it, on the contrary, i use the advantages of our country, its size, the number of forests, water, energy resources, of course, you need to turn this benefit. er, as far as social issues are concerned. we believe that for many enterprises or the country as a whole, the quality of work of business with human resources is very important. that is, of course, their employees and the level of wages and the level of staff turnover, that is, the atmosphere that exists in labor collectives. some social packages will rise with society, or vice versa , social measures that are oriented, not

so much for their employees. how many such examples there are for our clients, this must be taken into account, and, as far as the uh state is concerned, this is, of course, how business behaves in the territories. how much he invests in social projects, improvement of the territory, how much he cares about his and e business reputation, how much he observes tax discipline, how much he earns points for himself. uh, you fulfill the exact deadlines or other obligations to both the business partner and the state, all this is important. and so, based on these abbreviations of ecology, personnel and state, we proposed ecg. well, this is only a medical term, but we believe that on the basis of this it is possible to form a new rating for assessing, uh, the social health and economic and environmental health of the company. according to this curve, somewhere it will be higher to show, somewhere lower, for which it may be necessary in order for the

state to feel more comfortable in working with this business and for business to understand that it is at work in a certain history from a certain number points. he can qualify for so-called positive discrimination. that is, if you are high in this rating, it is clear that you have the right to expect that slightly different criteria will be applied to you than to those companies that are just entering the market. if you wanted to enter the market, you can also already with a certain number of points. for example, if you offer your employees a salary that is significantly higher than the average for the region or industry, this gives you a big plus if you declare the best available technologies in the field of ecology. this is for you too give a plus. if you say that besides. to develop your own economy, you will work with the regional authorities, you need e-e infrastructure for the improvement of the territory. we need one or another social projects. you will help in schools with some kind of sports team. this also gives you advantages and you are already at the start. even if you have a new company, and even more so if you put

a rating into your business reputation as a businessman, you will have an incentive to receive these points, and not hide behind some large companies anonymous impersonal and so on. that is, in principle, this is a system that was of interest both to companies with a market history and to those companies that are just starting their journey. it seems to us that such a system could significantly improve the interaction between the state, business and society, but this is development and, probably, there are more questions of the second day and the future. let's get back to the present only. such is the situation today with businesses that work a lot in the central federal district. companies have their own countries production was localized at the time. now somehow. what is the situation there, given the external sanctions pressure, the situation is generally stable, it is clear that i have announced from the company that a number of companies are suspending their activities, er, they are leaving the market, but we are seeing that to me, since these are already such operating businesses. uh, with very good

cadres of courageous business processes, there are many hunters. uh, these businesses pick up companies on this one most often go in case the topic or other technological reasons seem to impossible. uh, people who work in these companies are very quickly in demand in the market. and we believe that despite, of course, certain difficulties. after some time , we manage to overcome all the negative elements associated with the departure of the company in our sensational pressure on the sanctions pressure on us. well, in general, now there are problems with unemployment. here, taking into account, among other things, care at if in some companies we now have unemployment of 0.6%. this is significantly lower than in the country, and in absolute terms it is about 120,000 people, and this is two times less than 2 years ago. well, when additional assistance is provided to this business, or only those state support measures that are available no, we have created

special working groups in the regions that closely monitor the fate of, first of all, the people who work in these companies. they help them look for dumplings, uh, on the market, or, of course, the ideal case when the company simply changes ownership, keeping its workforce and, uh, in this regard, regional groups work for us. and to us at the interregional level. we, from the level of the federal district, are also trying to help them. thanks a lot. thank you. we return to our traveling studio in front of me, as before, our tetra alexander carriages. so you and i finished on the course, the current ruble, of course. here , the key rate that the central bank has today from 20% to 9.500 for, in my opinion, six steps, is of great importance. yes, there was a decrease. here's what you think about it. well, the main thing is that they think here, the central bank, not me, but now, it seems to me, as it seems to me, that

after all the central bank. e, now it will probably take some kind of pause in sharp movements, as it seems, again, this will depend on many factors, primarily the inflation rate itself now . it is clear, relative to the previous one, that the pace is still quite high, and there are forecasts. this is sberbank of others, so that inflation may be below 15% at the end of the year. and this means that months this is especially common in august -september, the so-called food deflation. when the harvest ripens, the supply increases naturally and as a rule, and prices decrease, because, accordingly, this food bundle is of great importance for the general level of inflation. therefore, in this i mean, there is something to expect, but, again, some drastic, uh, changes can be expected when the supply of imported goods is established according to the new logistics, it will work in

full, uh, the force of parallel import so called because here is the news that there even coco-cola is leaving. that's what it is like, here they worked in the communist ussr, which wanted to destroy the entire capitalist system. it was possible. and now, accordingly, we see it more dangerous for them than the former ussr well, what is this called lyrics? yes, and it directly relates to inflation, inflation rates and interest rates in our country, because it clearly works. from , respectively, the price level, therefore, i think that the pace will still slow down and serious changes, probably, percent we won't see the rates any more, because, but just for the time being, the overall level is still high. the high waiting season is quite high. but i think that the central bank will take a few more steps before the end of the year, but not like this. that's not one and a half percent. yes, it will be sooner 0 25 0.5. maybe, again , this will depend on the dynamics of gdp, because

the central bank has at least its mandate. no, he is not responsible for the rate of gdp , he is only responsible for price stability and the ruble exchange rate. but, by the way, it’s better in terms of gdp, yes. they used to think that will be more drop. yes, and now here on the forum a lot of this is discussed from authoritative ones. e speakers. we heard this, but the fact that there will probably be rates, but i have yuri borisov as an example, and he even believes that there will be a surprise on gdp and perhaps not. even lower, as i understand it. if i understood correctly, and yury ivanovich will be even lower than 5%, and the decline is this, i would say -7, yes, so here, uh, we will still depend on it. uh, let's dance and the central bank will also be guided here by all these indicators for in order to well as a result of such a significant sharp decline in interest rates already this is for those who are now holding, depositing bonds and so on. i don’t

expect yet, maybe 1-2% of a point before the end of the year is theoretically possible, but somewhere around 7-8 it would be already, probably, optimal for the current level, which is actually here now in terms of time we have , a report is being officially conducted and we have a plenary meeting scheduled with vladimir putin, and that's why nastya efimova will tell us why the transfer was carried out in russia or a word? yes colleagues, indeed. we could have already listened to the president's speech, but it had to be postponed for exactly one hour due to problems associated with hacker attacks, as the presidential press secretary said today, and tech attacks on the infrastructure of the st. petersburg international economic forum went on all the previous day and tonight the system held out, but by the middle of today, of course, the closer the speech of the russian president was, the more intense the attacks were and the systems did not survived. what happened, let's explain

that the passage here to the territory of the petersburg expo center is carried out with such a badge. they are very different in this case. here it is, let's say, yellow, issued for the press and provides access to a certain territory . so here is the system of admission to the territory where the plenary session is held with the participation of the president. she is broken. if, in fact, there were no unified databases of the list of accredited expert guests and it has become impossible to make a safe passage. that is why we took this hour-long pause, during which the system will be broken so that the plenary meeting can be held with all the necessary conditions for hacker attacks in this situation. well, it can hardly be considered something unexpected or sensational, given that over the past months. probably not a single resource. one way or another connected with the state, which

would not have been hacked and would not have been hacked more than once, hackers are trying very hard to attract to attention to yourself, but in a way that is always the case. is that emphasizing the importance of the resources that they are trying to hack. in this case, it is quite obvious , and we talked a lot about it today, that the speech of the president of russia has always attracted high attention here on this site, all the more so . this attention is probably becoming. maximum of course, there are those who would like to switch this attention to themselves . it will succeed, it is unlikely we are waiting for the beginning of the plenary session and the speech, which, as said the press secretary of the russian president will be very important to wait left. i hope not for long colleagues. nastya thank you, i remind you, it was anastasia efimova well , now let's watch an interview with the head of the united russia faction in the state duma, vladimir vasiliev. vladimir tolevich, hello, good afternoon forum. still,

we have an international one, which is interesting through the state duma with many international ones, and this time i managed to meet colleagues with delegations, you know, i have been working for a long time and often visited different forums, so you meet someone, but a friend comes up very kindly interested in general went so far. uh, well, there are 127 banks present uh, judging by what i've heard. now i have talked with st. petersburg colleagues from other regions and met, along the way, in general, a very active process is underway, a powerful active one in st. content point of view in my opinion. the forum took place. it can be said that it even made a splash

arrival of the delegation. afghanistan managed to somehow communicate with them, yet. here's hoping to see someone else. i may still remember from old memory, because there was a time when i was on the committee to counter the spread of drugs from afghanistan then. we interacted with europe today, it is not here, and on the one hand. this, in general, opens up huge opportunities for other continents from countries, but on the other hand, of course, i call this a preoccupied basis for them to then return to these spaces, which are now actively mastered by other states. in general, you are this process. eh, how do you rate what 's going on, huh? in relation to our country, yes, how friendly unfriendly countries do some kind of presentation, yes, their position in the house, by the way, speaking

consolidated, including when they voted in general, to recognize a billion dpr and protect people from this eight years old. e persecution on a national basis and inaction on the part of the guarantor countries, primarily european ones. there are france germany nothing did. this is where everything will be clear in terms of the fact that now this system of sanctions. here, judging by the participation. we see that it gives, in my opinion, the opposite effect of organizing, by the way, many americans themselves note here quite a lot. and they have their own interests. in general, they decide, because, for example, there is still fertilizer in such areas as fertilizer. limiting others unlimited themselves and it feels good here on the sidelines they talk about it, and in general, this is also a great opportunity, not for everyone, really. those who voluntarily refused. these are their problems. by the way, i'm still surprised here, perhaps

that there are too few deputies. this is also understandable. why do we know, i say, only from our shares 60, even it is more. but i don’t see here the deputies of other european states for the first time, it may very well be, except for serbia, there are. and i think that this is the result of such severe pressure and restrictions. but the business that is represented here today must also work with the parliament. parliaments should see this as a task. we are now maybe, more than ever, we feel it, why, because these are the antisational laws that we adopt. we have recently received 46. now i have already received them. they work. this is a very interesting very meaningful work. i will not say that it is simple, but it is fruitful and useful. well, of course, it causes no understanding of how parliaments, which were elected by their

voters of european states, can, and as far as i see them, not only i see it, the opinion of society is diverse, it changes, sometimes it splits and there is a contradiction each other the difference of society and at the same time there are no parliamentarians. causes me, like their colleagues. and i say, i worked for a long time and worked with the european parliament in committees, in particular with a colleague. sarkozy there on afghanistan are working on the security committee here, but at the end there is not here, so we will build relationships with those. who is ready to build and it is clear that there is a huge potential, but i also stressed this will lead to uh. it seems to me that the consequences for europe are wrong, which also does not cause such a kind of shyness. uh, you say

now about interaction with foreign parliamentarians in their business. well, here talking to business representatives. i have heard such a phrase. we would like more stability in legislation, to understand the conditions in which we work, so that we do not have a planning horizon. how e? the amount can contribute to this, because the state duma, in general, passes laws that change reality, and business would like to get some. uh, well, some hmm guarantees, yes, you know, a certain stability, i flew here with zyugan and began and we are now in the duma and i note this and not only i have them. what kind of unity is unity in solving the problems of countering sanctions from the point of view of our economy and protecting the interests of our citizens, the inhabitants of russia; here it is absolutely a concept of

interprojection, and from this point of view, all this will be stable. what to take at the same time, we will promptly to respond to the challenges and threats of these sanctions, which we did and again we are doing it together. why publicly open? i think there is such potential. allows you to find an adequate solution very quickly. i hope that all this will give its results. thank you very much for the interview. thank you well, we continue to work, and sasha , i propose to continue the discussion, but now we are with you in the energy sector, probably for 30 minutes. i think we discussed it with alexander. i say everything even a little more. let's start with the gas market, and the day before, at one session, alexei miller, the head of gazprom, when speaking about the current situation in the global market, he noted that in the first 5 months this year's fall. uh, consumption is now at 25%, that's a lot. here, what do you think?

what are the prospects for taking into account all the restrictions that have been introduced, all the more so many statements were made by the deputy prime minister in our studio. yes, indeed, alexander well, uh, a little pleased in the sense that we do not always recover production quickly enough, because there was a lot of speculation on this topic. and, of course, our former western partners. apparently i really wanted the one that was in march to be delayed for a very long time and so further, but thank god, the situation did not go that way, although there are a lot of obstacles too. we discussed, first of all, this is a question, but logistics, and this includes insurance of ships. well, and so on. this is a ban on, of course, a ban on calls to our ports there. well, tankers with our oil, even, uh, our iranian tanks with iranian oil, were arrested and so on. this whole story was, and in greece well, and so on. that is, these are examples, and therefore, in this sense, unconditionally. uh, the fact that we had a recession and, accordingly, supplies and production, but supported prices on the one hand,

on the other hand, it supported the fact that knockdowns occurred simultaneously with all these events, and they are still true and still exist and will apparently recover, but this is a separate topic, but in china and accordingly, it turns out that demand fell , and oil and gas became less, respectively. we see that asia is the main consumer. and now well, besides europe , probably, yes, and some of the uh tankers went from asia to europe, i also spoke about this alexandra, and certainly. uh, it affected consumption. uh, different on prices. and i think that for now, everything will depend on how events in the world economy develop. we see a sharp slowdown, and the global economy certainly. this is a serious slowdown. once again, there are too many non-economic factors that we cannot predict. and naturally. it all affects, therefore, uh,

there is a very big hope that, after all, uh, the chinese authorities, uh, will not close this once again, everything is completely there now they are talking wrong with beijing, everything is fine, then and they opened it, then they close it again, it seems that such a difference is now the information report, and therefore all this. here we see how it is connected and affects, therefore, i think that i would very much like to think that the situation can still be managed and, on the other hand, there is a problem that yes, save money. you are the politics now leading the west, and the federal reserve . it can lead to the fact that, as we said in previous entries, the global economy, and enter into a recession, the demand for energy resources will fall accordingly. i think such a scenario now it is being worked out very actively, including in america, because it would be beneficial for the americans before the elections in november. and how can they curb prices - this is, in fact, defiantly ignoring. these are all

the problems that i was talking about, the bidens say that as the commander in chief , the president, who is responsible for his voters, for their well-being, made a decision in no way. that is, he hinted to them that over the years the americans have a war with us, so i make such decisions. that is. i just gave this example again in order for us to understand in such conditions like this, but still, of course, the economy will take its toll. and ah. i think that the forecast that is. i will not be here, but rather original, because i am guided, of course, by industry. e experts. i am not a pure oil analyst, yes, but i take those, as it seems to me, they select everything, as it seems to me, the forecasts are more realistic, uh, and apparently, and because there are usually experts. and there are participants. and i am the authorities, but the countries that, therefore, can already say something new alone cannot speak others, so you can arrange it this way, as i

understand it, the demand will still be quite high. and how can i say, it will grow in the future itself, even if it is in the moment of knockdowns, something will decrease there, then in the coming years it will grow, so, there will be, uh, the need for uh, in increasing supplies, they will increase . and with this problem, including logistics, so i think that prices will be quite high. and how many will fall by 25% or by 10 at the end of the year, we will see, and there will be two more the key factor is how quickly the federal system will create financial difficulties by raising rates sharply, as it did now, and immediately raised by 0.75 and and this is the first moment of supply chain lockdowns, the second moment, and. uh, respectively, uh, political decisions in the field of sanctions there, well, and so on, the third point, so these three factors, they will influence. now look at it for real. when we spoke with alexander , it is clear that one of the instruments today.

perhaps this is stabilization in the market. it, of course, the mechanism and the object are a plus, and he just said that at the end of the year the deal is terminated. well, i didn't order. what would be the next interaction with our partners and saudi arabia because we were reminded the day before was the eleventh. here i was in st. petersburg to communicate behind closed doors with the deputy prime minister. here are some details we don't know . we alexander but did not drop out state secrets. thank god what is it? happened. well, if you wanted to ask, uh, look, in fact, it's not about the oil market. at the same time, with everything, again there was one from alexander novak’s statement that our production is actually at the level that was about 500 million tons at the end of last year, that is, in fact, despite the fact that the restriction is introduced, we have balancing factors, but at the same time everything turns out that the company very quickly refocused in these circumstances. yes, and for me it was a surprise that it seems to me, even the same market, the stock market, the situation is not fully assessed. and based on the fact that ah, this is already with horror, how is russian now

will trade oil, nothing can be done. here is the first shock. he was in march. especially, well, in april, and it is not what it has already been , because, of course, such global processes cannot be done at the moment, but the minister said that you are obliged. yes, who does not know, it fell sharply rose sharply you owe the restoration of the so -called there is often spoken about the economy as a whole or with the designer. ah, the value of securities and so on is a kind of recovery. uh, it's important that it doesn't go into a double. y. yes. that's when i grew up then again, yes, here it was, respectively , fell and returned almost there, so i think that this factor indicates that we are adapting, then, of course, in fact, it’s correct that they say a lot about energy at the sessions that take place here in these days at the st. petersburg international economic forum and a lot of statements have been made. here, to be honest, i propose to give the floor to my colleague, maria, and the words of bryanskaya, she will tell

the details. colleagues, thank you very much, indeed. you are very detailed of the guests discussed the situation on the oil and gas market, but a large number of speeches, of course, take place within the framework of business sessions, and one of the most interesting today was the session dedicated to the energy balance. as you have already noted, indeed alexander novak also took part in it, and he noted that now the trend continues, including a decrease in investment in the extractive industry, if, for example, in 2019, 483 billion dollars were invested in it in traditional hydrocarbon production , then in 2021. it was already 350 billion - this trend continues, and of course, because of this, there is a risk that there will be a shortage in the market. in particular, the shortage of oil, taking into account the fact that there is a partial embargo on russian oil. although, in fact. it is impossible to do without it now. oil exports increased by

12% compared to last year. yes, it’s taking leaves. for 5 months and at the moment, exports are higher than last year, partly due to a decrease in refining volumes with the reconfiguration of our oil refineries factories. but this means that our oil is not in demand in the world today in the world today as a result of these uh unreasonable sanctions on the supply of our energy resources. yes, we have a discount on them at the moment said the head of gazprom neft alexander dyukov. he suggested that europe, in theory, could do without russian oil. well, the main question here is the price that will have to be paid for this, as he noted. also now about 50 percent of its oil, russia already imports to asia and before that, of course, three

a quarter went to europe that is, the market is quickly restructuring. there is, uh, a strategic partnership with europe that was important to us and it was an efficient market for us. but as it were, as we know about 15 years ago, in principle, a decision was made with the fact that there is still an asian- pacific market, and, uh, we, accordingly, began to develop work, and strategic investments were made in this direction. compliance with the infrastructure of the height of the casino and only here in height of 65 million, then it is oil, respectively is supplied to the asian market, and in addition to investing in infrastructure , we know very well that companies from asia have invested in mining projects in the russian federation . therefore, this strategic partnership already exists. and there certainly with e, it can

be and should be e, get further development. a lot was said at the session. of course , the future of the gas industry in russia is inextricably linked with the development of lng, because the importance of lng in the whole world is growing significantly and it is important for russia to take a large share of this market. but in order to achieve this, it is necessary to develop our modern and high-quality technological support, of course, it is impossible to do this without state support, said the chairman of the board of novatek. leonid mikhelson, and also he spoke in general about the situation on the hydrocarbon market and gave his forecasts for the near future. when the understanding came that uh this is a program to achieve zero emissions, but to put it mildly, uh, the economic was not calculated. yes, for many more years, i

count decades. may they be in demand hydrocarbons. this is primarily gas, and the most affordable product is the most mobile products. not now, in the twenty-third year there will be practically nothing. we predict that from 24-25 there will be many new projects. there is a lot of talk about the future of trade relations. here, of course, russia will build relations with friendly countries and build up this partnership, but these are important questions. of course, these are calculations. now, settlements in national currencies are increasingly being promoted, because indeed, as many have expressed the opinion representatives of the government of an expert from the business dollar lost confidence in the first place, of course, and investors and businessmen and states, and also at the session, and at one of the sessions of the pmf, possible measures were discussed that need to be taken in order

to overcome this trade crisis. we have alternative channels of international settlements for the development of life. and these, of course, are settlements in national currencies. and most importantly, this is, of course, a universal method of calculation. he he he can be simpler in every way, yes, it is universal, but we have no choice, because when a unit of account becomes a weapon, and i am convinced that in the form, as many of our friendly partners behave, they are not afraid of the nuclear arsenal of the united states and not military power, not even economic. they fear one will be disconnected from the dollar. this is the most powerful weapon that the united states has that allows it to dominate and scare everything today with just that. an interesting opinion was also expressed by the assistant to the president of russia

maxim oreshkin, he called the dollar a drug, on which the whole world was once addicted. however, now many countries, including, for example, central america and asia , already want to abandon the dollar and switch to their national currencies. russia will also follow these trends. on which the whole world was put, uh, from the point of view of settlements in servicing the banking system and so on, of course, giving up a drug is always a difficult story, but the awareness and consciousness that this drug is not good. it is now growing in the world in most of this world, so they wanted to isolate fail, and russia will be an open economy. we have many partners. and, of course, here in this new openness. it's a matter of building infrastructure. i feel like this whole story.

we will need to look at a new angle to take out a function that should use it with the application of new technological approaches. the relationship between business and the state is another important thesis that is talked about a lot in pehi, of course, and the growth points of these relations were discussed at the session. new growth acted as its moderator. igor shuvalov is the chairman of the web-rf, and he, of course, also noted the key points that need to be paid attention to in overcoming difficulties and building relationships between business and the state. we also noted the key indicators of the economy, which should be guided by the current conditions. assess growth. eh, gdp should first of all look at how the well-being of the family changes against the backdrop of economic development. and if the gdp grows, the well-being of families does not change, then such relatives do not need, of course, uh, we uh both understand this,

so we launched, uh, a special project on the quality of life index in cities. a large number of interesting projects are proposed and companies, of course, not only talk about the future of the economy, for example, today russian railways presented its project to the 185th anniversary of russian railways and the pavlovsky station appeared at the stand of the moscow philharmonic. this is a unique architectural object that we no longer have, but no time. he was such a junction of culture and the railway. pavlovsky railway station, which we represent today on the stand, this is a great example of such, illustrating the uh interaction of culture and the railway, the pavlovsky station actually became the first object of the uh public cultural space. and in general, the word station appeared precisely on the example of pavlovsky railway station to a place where people could come to listen to music

, spend time culturally, and, in this regard, we considered that this particular object is a historical object. uh, would be a perfect illustration of such mutual cooperation. interaction between business and ecology, how to properly build business activities, taking into account current challenges, this one experiment was recently launched by the first participant, this metal-invest company already exists and it has concluded an agreement with rosprirodnadzor, according to which the agency will provide its advice on the compliance of new investment projects with the requirements of the nature of protection legislation. we want to get away from this paradigm when one runs away and the other catches up, and this is probably the greatest value of our agreement when we paradigm we leave and we pass from cooperation of the

authorities, so to say, supervisory poisoning bodies and businesses, for what in order to 100 ° - it correctly said it will allow. it 's just better to carefully work out your own projects. associated not only with the environment, but with production in general. with development and a, this is a lot of money only in the last 8 years, and there is oil spent on environmental programs, and the administration of the tomsk region polytechnic university agreed on the development of technology. this will cut our costs. on the same energy resources that we use today in municipal remote areas. this will allow us to have more stable heat and

electricity, and of course for people. it is convenient e in savings for the company. these are new technologies. for the area. these are new opportunities for the development of multimedia this project is unique in that it collects competencies from our various departments from different teams. that is, if the oilmen are responsible for the underground part of geothermal energy, then the engineering school of energy of tomsk polytechnic for the arrangement of the ground part for the correct efficiency, but at the same time, we understand that digital production technology systems are also connected here. the first halves of today, i think, there will be no less of them, but for now i give you the word of a colleague. maybe thank you and we will definitely tell them. it was maria slavyanskaya, but now on the air of our channel there is an interview with the ceo konyaev. here it

is recorded in st. petersburg. dmitry vladimirovich hello hello maria , the first question is about a topic that is very actively discussed here this year at the forum in st. petersburg. these are food security and the risks of possible famine in the world. what are standing here now? challenges how russian fertilizer producers can actually accept and solve them is a very, very serious topic. see the issue of hunger. it always exists. we just somehow try not to talk about it. uh, increase uh in the number of hungry people between 20 and 21 . well, largely due to the pandemic, it amounted to 40 million people for a second. now we we are talking about a colossal disruption to supply chains when fertilizer elementary does not reach farmers. that is 22 years old. yes , the fertilizers that were brought in the previous season are coming. now now those restrictions that