the current president discussed these issues with him many times. i know they pay a lot of attention to this too. it's no coincidence that, despite the fact that, uh, i still, frankly, don't really welcome it, but, uh, but let's say in the field of it technology. many specialists are happy to go to kazakhstan to work there today from russia because the conditions are good , we will take an example from kazakhstan return back for such a compliment, indeed we create the most favorable opportunities for work for our russian er, colleagues of friends who came to work with us believe that this is not a constant phenomenon. perhaps over time. they will return to their homeland in russia anyway. er, this is where we should be together. and, of course, to reject people who, for one reason or another, decided to work in

our country is absolutely impossible. answering your question regarding the reform of the law enforcement system. here i fully agree with vladimir vladimirovich that this is a very difficult job, a very difficult problem in relation to this problem. anyway, we must try to do it, because people see injustice. this gives rise to social depression. that is why i decided to create a special commission that deals with the return to state ownership of assets that were privatized illegally using administrative and political resources. in addition, i created a commission headed by the attorney general, who will deal with the return of financial resources. illegally exported abroad. you understand that

this is a difficult job, but you need to go through a large number of procedures, but nevertheless, again, this work needs to be done, as for the system, uh, in september i will announce a new package, uh, of reforms related to the reformatting of the judicial system. this is a very urgent problem for kazakhstan in any case, and now the reform of the e-police service is being carried out. uh, the so-called three-zen service model. e, she goes e not without difficulty. this is a reform, however, believing that we will eventually succeed, the main thing is presence of political will. and, of course, the support of the citizens of the country, if the citizens of our society, as a whole, demand this reform

and support it, then they think that we will achieve final success, because, of course, those models that existed before, they may have their purpose in the past, but now. uh, we had vacillations in the law enforcement system during the reforms, then we went into humanization, used the experience of european countries, who went in the direction of tightening, that is, there was no constant constants and a clear understanding of what we want, and now where in the end we now have the so -called golden mean, which is clearly based on the needs of our citizens who want to see reliable protection in the face of the police and, most importantly, not bribe people. eh, again this is a difficult task. understand that i'm not going to declare a great idea and then

immediately forget about them. uh, but it has to be dealt with, as far as china is concerned, uh, in this country. i myself am a sinologist by first profession and i know well this wisdom, which today brought. what's in every opportunity? crisis, that is, the word crisis consists of two and rollers. i still remember how they, how they are written. the first hieroglyph is the danger, the second hieroglyph is the opportunity in every crisis. there is a danger of inflicting opportunities. i think we should start from that. and by the way, speaking, uh, you said about huawei. i, uh, spent almost 8 years in china and i had the opportunity to visit

this company. at the very beginning of its activities in the area, i still remember when this company was located in three rooms, then, of course , no one believed that it would later become a global company, but it happened and what is the success of china in my opinion, firstly, they managed to very pragmatically build the concept, that is, the capitalist mode of production . essential goods were sold abroad, earned money, brought to china , this money was invested in the development of technology, including the acquisition

of these body technologies in various ways abroad. what former president trump said the united states of america went round on the chinese, but in fact, uh, they achieved great success in the technological sphere and set the task at the last party congress to turn the whole country into a cyberpower. here i think it is here, uh, afraid of the secrets of their success, that is, the right choice of creatitis. you see how you spoke about protecting the interests of entrepreneurs in the business community. you first told vladimir vladimirovich that this means that we are kazakh colleagues. now i spoke about the return of illegally exported abroad capital. so they took it illegally, and now the state is taking it back. our entrepreneurs. many laws took

capital abroad, they were robbed there. now you understand, so the conclusion is about something. i said speaking invest. one must at home one's native country, and our task is to ensure the security of these provisions. we will do so. and remember, this seems to be in response to the poles. you have been talking for a long time. you have to think about the house when you speak. and what is there, what is better? don't you think that someone here thinks that there better. i think now. since only a clinical idiot to elizabeth and a hypocrite can believe that the very values ​​​​and the very principles that we were fed and fed them to us are practiced there, as the only possible. uh, the right word is ownership. i say this as the editor-in -chief of the artist of the traveler, which they closed in one day, yes, and today they approved the tradition, the osanja, who will be imprisoned in america for 175 years and he will die in prison.

well, it's not hard to talk about it. this is an employee our former program led us. and in general, this is a great journalist, he will be imprisoned for his journalistic activities, so what kind of property right is there with elementary rights just for life, for freedom of speech. it turned out that everything was completely different from what we believed in the nineties, but we are not there, we are here, and therefore completes this topic. i want to ask you about, uh, the administrative guillotine. remember more medvedev's government launched. this piece as a result, the administration. we have a lot of them, but there is no guillotine, well, those rules that govern many departments coming from inspections. they are often written back there in the sixties to the seventies. they are often simply irrelevant. they can no longer be fulfilled. i mean, uh, back in the day, i guess it really mattered. it protected the right of the consumer. anyone there, yes, a simple

person, what are you talking about, this is certainly important, because it will also be impossible not to follow everything, a solid winter cherry. we have non-translation lord yes, everything will burn there and other unclean hands, people too many. but put things in order with these rules. it seems to me that you are such a good surgeon, you will become vladimir. i know this, when it comes to this scalpel, i’ll give you a hand as an example, we had 33 checks last year, despite all these prohibitions, 33 and some of what they come with. it’s just, well, you don’t know whether to laugh or cry, i don’t complain about the fact that you understand how people come to. if it were not for this administrative guillotine, but about which dmitry anatolyevich medvedev also spoke as president of you there would be not 33 checks, but 133 very much, i can readily believe that it would be so, therefore, uh, after all, this guillotine works a huge number of thousands of obsolete rules have been canceled here margarita you are wrong. they are

canceled really and do not work. i'm sure if we gave the opportunity, uh, to the business representatives in the hall to say this, they would find, uh, formulate confirmation, because what i just said, uh, well, at the same time, many supported the fighting, that indeed not everything in this regard has been done yet, but precisely for this reason i said today that it is necessary in general, uh, to change all sorts of checks, not to run already with checks oriented only to carry out, that is, to act only there , er, by checking organizations where? the activity is connected with ensuring the life and health of citizens for everything else. there , to remotely monitor and create conditions so that, uh, you understand, how the community did not try to disrupt anything, it all turned out to be possible to do, therefore, uh, after all, a lot has been done along this path, but we do not stop and go further. thank you all

the world was waiting for our torn to shreds economy, not the whole world is that part of the world that is actually a minority, uh, and she remembers that 83% of the human population lives in countries that support us or at least do not join the sanctions. so don't wait. this fabric, from which we sewed our economy, turned out to be stronger than they could handle, and we all watched with great joy, well, in fact, the lightning steps of the government. i , uh, scolded, scolded, yes, administrative clay and so on, but it’s impossible not to praise, how it was done, especially at first , when well, really, well, it was impossible to imagine that we would not have such a jump in inflation, which we were promised, that there would not be 200 dollars when they closed the sky, and our ministry of transport on the next day closed it to them with lightning speed. that is, uh, there is a feeling that everything is working god will give more or less at the limit of possibilities. in a good sense of the word, that is, no, you

know those who could, yes, sluggishness. e before our e, there is some kind of such perhaps there is no such feeling at all, but the question is whether they have come time, maybe take a different look at the system itself, what do i mean. it was so interesting today that they said that it is important not just to replace imports, it is important to do something new so that they can catch up with us later. yes, this applies to technology, if i understand you correctly, industrial production. well, maybe this also applies to the economic model. as such, see. for all the years, the market has been telling us about the market about capitalism, but now they are starting to look at it differently. today, at the web session, they talked about the fact that capitalism in such a hacky, right? in the sense of the word themselves and lived and entrepreneurs should have a different attitude to the place where they live to think about their home, there is another category of expert people who say that the state. strangely enough, it's time to

intervene more in economic processes, because the same elon musk would not have become an elon musk if he were just a free entrepreneur. he lives on the order of the pentagon and he is a free entrepreneur, like bbc independent television. in fact, people talk about that the state can regulate the new industry more tightly and thus a completely new economic model is growing. what do you think about this? i say, i spoke about this publicly at one of the international events online, i was talking about the fact that the old models on the capitalist system are on themselves and shrink when it comes only to making a profit here the world enters such a hmm phase of development, when it is necessary and necessary and everyone is forced to think, not only about this, but about the fact that the world why because here, if continue further, then the world becomes highly balanced and the threat is growing in this problem in this challenge of time, er, and

therefore, in order to maintain this balance, you need to act differently, just balancing it and not paying attention. on all the components that lead to a violation of this balance. eh, this is about today , for example, with the same food allowance. with the same fertilizers and so on. but how if, uh, if if, like this, they will carry themselves, uh, the largest economy in the world will be vacuum all goods from the world market. yes, including food products to take home e means, then e the problem will grow. this will lead to something not just in the head, it will lead to a new oxen of emigration with a migration flow that will overwhelm, uh, overwhelm, and already the same united states, uh, they want to build this one there. uh, it means that the wall is on the border with mexico, or they don’t want to, but the flows are coming, they don’t reduce it. there domestic political can among themselves the former acting presidential.

argue as much as you like, and the flows of emigrants game uh, famine if in africa god forbid comes and uh, this is economic migration increasing to europe and what are you doing about it? and it’s very simple to do. then just, uh, it means to stop. this is the attitude towards world affairs, when they think only about their loved ones and that’s it. eh, in this in this. eh, if this continues, it will lead to complex difficult problems, so, of course, you need to move to another model. e economy is not regulated, but it is such a complex process. eh, i think that the world community will inevitably come to this, eh, well, eh as for us, i have already said, here we fit into this general paradigm in this is

the main movement in this global trend. of course, first of all, you should think, uh, about what my colleague from kazakhstan , the president of kazakhstan, also said, because, first of all, pay attention. e issues of economic growth based on e, on technological development, but new models of economic management and e, social political sphere. that's when we will be able to provide leadership where we have our own competencies. thanks and you too think that, well, fundamental changes, as vladimir vladimirovich said , of managing, that is, the economic model of the world, as he said again, is inevitable, you think it is inevitable. i think that life itself dictates a similar need from the other side. i agree with what the president of the russian federation said about the impossibility, and the absence of the need

to go into self-isolation, nevertheless, i am a supporter of international cooperation, be it political, and even more so investment trade, economic cooperation. i spoke about this in my speech today. if somewhere it does not work out in one direction. it is necessary to go to another direction, because the world is such now and to pursue a policy of self-reliance. absolutely impossible indeed there is no possibility. china china china is of great importance for kazakhstan, as we have a common market that unites us with a length of more than 2,000 km. everything that is produced in our country, be

it raw materials or, let's say, finished products, chocolate, vegetable oil, is very wide demand and consumption in the chinese market, so we value our relationship with the people's republic of china - this is a reliable partner, no matter what the modern world says. therefore, from the point of view of regional cooperation, let alone global aspects. we are for not going into self-isolation. and, of course , work with each other to find opportunities. it is very difficult to survive alone now, of course. there are many, many more opportunities in russia, because the economy is a relatively large country. uh big we have less

opportunities. to be frank, although the potential of the kazakh economy is quite significant, in any case, in central asia, our economy is larger than, uh, economy. central asian countries combined, but of course me. relate to this, presumptuous in the form quickly, so now these conditions. we will inevitably move on to another topic, yes,

it is impossible to go to ukraine without ukraine. now, probably, there is more than one discussion, but before i ask vladimir vladimirovich a question, as you know, we have on television, they say, television programs, taking the opportunity i want taking the opportunity. and i want to remind you how we met a year ago with you from the russian editors-in-chief. uh, the media then it was published. we had just returned from donetsk with colleagues and were under the impression, of course, very difficult and we asked you if russia was going to help these exhausted people who looked at us with such hope and they had no one else to hope for and i, well, we experienced difficult emotions. in relation to them and you then answered we are not worried margarita russia there we are not donbass quit, you said, and now a lot of people are not so many, thank god well, some number who say they are ashamed. for the fact that they are russian, for the fact that they are from russia, you

know, we were ashamed then, and now we are no longer ashamed, of course, it is hard for us and anxious scary. not because of the sanction, not from this one, i'm sure we'll cope with this too, because people are dying, but we are no longer ashamed. i just wanted on behalf of my colleagues and on behalf of millions of people who share. it is such feelings to say thank you for it. see people really share. i didn't ask them to clap. thank you very much. now now the question. yes, what to be afraid of. you probably know what most people in our country are afraid of now in connection with this. this is the same thing. what people in the liberated classrooms are afraid of, and people are afraid that we will quit, let's go, we'll go.

so, all the same, first of all, the first part of what you said, you say that some people say that they are ashamed that they are there from russia, you know, it is a shame for those who do not bind their fate and their life, the fate of their children with our country. and me just ashamed. they simply simply do not want them to have problems in those regions where they want to live and what they want to bring up there and feel sorry for their children. this is how people are, but a thinking person, uh, who connects his fate and the fate of his family with russia with the russian federation e, he may be anxious about the ongoing events, but he is certainly in his heart , uh, of course, interested in growth of power in russia, in order for it to stand

stronger, more confident in itself, becoming more sovereign, looked confidently into the future, but it can't be otherwise for a person who wants his children to live here, that 's what it's about, therefore, it's not shameful there. those are different categories, but about ah about what's going on. well, uh, well, look, fighting is always a tragedy. well , it's just forced actions on our part are inevitably forced. here's the thing, we've just been dragged to this line. i have to remind how it all came together, but uh, listen, what would be pro-western governments. uh, in ukraine, you can work with everyone normally. here mr. yunshchenko was tymoshenko they were absolutely pro western oriented. the same. uh, the so -called civilizational choice of some sort . sorry for the monotony, what for, the civilizational choice of money was stolen from the ukrainian people in banks and they want to protect them. that's the best way to protect

yourself by saying that these are civilizational civilizational civilizational elections. uh, so they started to pursue an anti-russian policy in the hope that whatever they did , uh, the money would be protected there. well , it happens, of course, what they do. it all means that they get away with everything. this is the whole point of this civilizational choice. so, e. for some reason why was it necessary in 2014 to carry out a coup d'état in ukraine, it all began. well, three foreign ministers from three european countries arrived. uh, germany, uh, france and poland, uh, were present as guarantors of agreements between the presidents and the opposition, i got a call from president obama. let 's do it. so everything calmed down. come on, that a coup d'état was carried out a day later, when you ask? and why? after all, so uh, this the opposition came to power democratically

. go to the polls and win. no , for some reason it was necessary to commit to the hospital. that's what bloody started it all now they say, well, let's remember this and let's not remember it, we will always remember it, because this is the reason and the reason is in those people who contributed to this coup. what did the guarantors have to do, who signed a paper of agreement between, uh, president yanukovych and the opposition, carried out a coup d'état, they guaranteed the mirny mines the process, what they had to do was to come and say, no, that won't do. guys come on. let's get back to the political normal process. go to the polls. and that's it. no, they started handing out pies there on the site. support this revolution. why is this from here, please, the events in crimea no, they did not want to respect the choice of the crimeans. please, the first first sanctions

against russia were carried out twice thrice, large-scale military operation in the donbas for 8 years. they were shooting at people. nobody is nothing notices the kiev authorities refused to comply with these minsk agreements is also normal. for someone it turned out, well, they summed it up to the current situation. here's what happened. in addition, they began to create such an anti-russian foothold in ukraine. come on, try it, we'll start creating an anti-american foothold somewhere on the borders of the united states in mexico. well , you understand that for some reason it won't even occur to anyone to do something like that. uh, in uh, in america, at one time we even removed our military bases from cuba. you see, no one even looks at this, does not want to look, it means that they create such threats for us. 100 times 1,000 times said, let's

agree no. why such a position where did such a dismissive attitude towards everyone, including us , come from? so, but as to how we will do. i already uh what are we going to do? well, of course, we will protect the interest from those people for whom our guys are there uh today, uh, they are fighting. uh, get egyptically injured. well, of course it's the same. uh, it’s just impossible in another way, for what then these sacrifices, of course, we would support the people who live in these territories, but in the end, only the people who live there will depend on the future, and we will respect whatever they choose. thanks really. how

do you know for sure? this is a special operation in an amazing way for normal people in the expected way, but for those people who are ashamed and even more so for their sponsors and masterminds in an unexpected way rallied our society. you probably, maybe, you are being told the numbers of support for the special operation and the trust that you personally have risen now, well, there is such a movement to help, humanitarian aid and let's help the troops of the dpr and the lpr and ask, what if our armies need something and just people to shelter someone, moscow near moscow, moscow region with trucks. they just take them there, and what people and not only collect, and other regions, too, the vaenkors send there from the copter to, i don’t know the mittens. if they know that someone something out there somewhere, someone in the battalion

needed to look at it, of course. well, it's amazing we haven't seen anything like this. we only read such books about e, feats about the cohesion of our society in difficult times for our country. at the same time, sometimes, however, one gets the feeling, especially in moscow, that we live in the finale of the bernard shaw play, the house where hearts break, where they chat throughout the whole play, they chat about something, discuss some kind of family squabbles, and then in the very the end of retirement is literally a last minute bomb with no were flying. the first world war suddenly happened both in moscow and not in moscow, and even more so in the west , they are increasingly talking about the fact that, well, even this phrase nuclear war just pronounces. world war iii, we understand that, to put it mildly , this is not the first, not the second, not the third spice, the operation is not ours, but in general in the world in just recent years, our so-called partners have been conducting special operations and waging wars,

where they want for any reason and without and something nobody. i didn’t say that here is the situation in libya or anywhere else in afghanistan in syria should lead to a third world, and now they say, here, do you think this is generally acceptable rhetoric. does it have a basis or is it just like that, well, chatting, the louder, the better to hear, sort of. of course we hear the rhetoric of this image. where does this kind of thing come from? of these , one irresponsible politician will blurt out something, then another, and at a very high level, at the level of, say, the ministry of foreign affairs. first person, there er rant something to this one, well, about this, but we will still be silent, we will respond accordingly, as soon as we answered, they immediately cling to it , they say, here is russia in the garage. nothing threatens us, but everyone should know what we have. and what we will use, if necessary, to protect our sovereignty, these are obvious things. and the special operations that

you said about, yes, we, what kind of special operations there were full-scale wars unleashed, of course, they practically destroyed iraq, which means libya still cannot be restored at all their statehood hmm and how many fought in afghanistan? how many years have gone? well, it 's not even a shame, the point is that in the end they left, well, i must say ingloriously directly, of course they left. well, that's not even the point. uh, the fact is that e, too, nevertheless developed, the way we wanted, and not the way it was needed, and in many cases, let's say, as far as yugoslavia is concerned, yes, dismemberment. yes, now, of course, just how our country has crouched down existence. ah, there are new countries. new interests were many internal

contradictions, of course. that's all, this is what contributes to the development of these contradictions , and then, uh, began to, uh, already split off kosovo from serbia, and so on. hmm, it's also not very clear what e means for, as far as our actions are concerned. uh, by the way, speaking, uh, here is the legal side of this case, what yes, it is fully consistent with international law completely. uh, when the same thing, kosovo uh separated, because under pressure from western countries and the international court of justice decided that, in accordance with the un joint, uh, when some the territory is separated from the state to ask permission in this regard from the central authorities. no need. this decision of the international court of justice is swift, kosovo, but it is of a general nature. this is a precedent. well , well then, the republics of donbass should not ask permission from the kiev

authorities, they declared their independence in this regard, we could have the right to recognize them or not, of course, we did this, we concluded an agreement with them, and mutual assistance and in accordance with this treaty, as well as with article 51 of the un charter, we render they had the right to receive military assistance in full accordance with the joint whether they like it or not, they themselves created a precedent. therefore, our actions are absolute and legitimate. uh, let's say uh, the start of the action war in uh. q. the same iraq is not like that, because no one called me there, there were no agreements with anyone, including there was no recognition. uh, some newly formed state structures. they just bombed the country, they did the same thing in libya . and why? and because they think uh, as i already said and they appointed themselves

representatives of the lord god on earth now we hear uh, it means behavior or life according to the rules, according to what rules, who invented them? and what kind of nonsense is there only one rule that must be observed. it's, uh, it's public international law. what is it? these are agreements between countries that are some kind of compromise and, under which there are signatures corresponding to the state. and if someone came up with these rules for themselves in order to impose them on other countries, then they will never they will work. this is absolutely obvious thing here we proceed from the fact that sooner or later, the sooner the better. yes, the entire international community will return to the understanding that one must live not according to some rules invented by someone, but within the framework of international law . we are ready to work in this key . i understand that the question is not an easy question;

it can be answered in different ways, but, nevertheless, i cannot but ask you about your view on our special operation on its inevitability, as we here consider also on its legitimacy. well in general, what do you think, what do people in kazakhstan think about this? uh, different opinions on this matter, i will directly say, uh, to society. ours is open. ah, the maturity of civil society is on the face, so different opinions are expressed, but i would like to note the following, which is modern international law. this is the charter of the organization in modern times.