i understand that the question is not an easy question, it can be answered in different ways, but e, all the same, i can’t help but ask you about your view of our special operation, its inevitability, as we believe here, and its legitimacy. well, in general, what do you think, what do people in kazakhstan think about this? uh, different opinions on this matter, i will say frankly, we have an open society, and the maturity of civil society is obvious, so different opinions are expressed, but i would like to note the following, that modern international law. this is the charter organizations. present times have come into

conflict with each other. this is the territorial integrity of the state and over the right to self-determination. the co-founders of the organization, apparently, did not take this moment into account at one time, and perhaps they deliberately introduced, as a compromise, two principles that now contradict each other and, of course, if they contradict each other, that is, different understandings. some say that the territorial integrity of the state. this is a holy concept, a holy category, and others claim that any nations will secede of their own accord

. more than 500 or 600 states will arise on earth. of course it will be chaos. for this reason, we do not recognize either taiwan or kosovo, south abkhazia, or south ossetia abkhazia, and apparently this principle will be applied in relation to the vase of state territories, which in our opinion is lugansk donetsk is a frank answer to your frank question. yes. thank you. you certainly for this frankness asked your subscribers in social networks what they would like to ask you and with

two theses won by a wide margin, one question and another wish from subscribers. in the first place it turned out from the questions that they would like to ask you, and in the second place the question that it is impossible not to ask. see every day. girls gave birth to our guys. they were filmed, then, as they were in the basement, they gave birth by cesarean, they hit the market. uh, and people ask. here we are, for this, of course, we beat them on the hands. is it time for them to strike in the jaw, and what exactly do you mean when you talk about that red line, after which the blows will begin in the center of decision-making, and it is precisely them that we

consider a blow to the jaw, as i understand it. uh look we're talking about running a special military operation, uh, and uh hmm even with this special military operation. we don't have to uh the cities and towns that we liberate to turn the semblance of stalingrad naturally the thing that our military thinks in uh, the organization of hostilities. e. this is the first second thing. uh, these absolutely senseless strikes on the elderly quarters. donetsk is due to the fact that e demarcation line, which was created 8 years ago. she, of course, is such a serious fortified area. and there in that direction. ah, the locals. this means corps formed from the inhabitants of donetsk and,

accordingly, a little very good, excellent, but u storm these fortified areas. this, according to military experts, despite these attacks on the city itself, is inappropriate, because it will lead to heavy casualties on the part of the attacking forces, and therefore, uh, the tactics are different there. as you can see, this can be seen on the map, everyone is talking about it information, in fact, systematic work is underway. eh, on entering the rear of these e fortified areas. this, of course, takes some time. battery counter, the fight is going on there, and it will definitely increase the advantage. uh, in the artillery we are very large it will be inevitable. but as for those red lines here. hmm uh, let me keep that to myself, because uh, that would mean uh enough from our side. uh, tough

actions by name by topic. uh, the decision center , which i have already mentioned and which you mentioned, but hmm uh, but uh, after all, this is the area, uh, that should remain. uh, the decision is primarily made by the military-political leadership of the country, and , uh, those people who deserve appropriate action. eh, of such a level on our part, of course, er, we must, first of all, draw a conclusion for ourselves. what can they face? if you act, uh, cross these lines and lines, and uh, strikes on residential areas. this is definitely a crime. e is against humanity. these are humanitarian humanitarian problems, but i'm sure it will be solved. type here we were told just yesterday that ukraine

seems to be urgently going to be accepted into the eu, and three european leaders visited, kiev was scared of another. ah, as a result of what? it seems to be, yes, right now, as they said, with lightning speed, in my opinion, and i ’m quoting verbatim, but there will be the eu this is for the development of your country for eurasia for the world as a whole, this will add. e, i do not know peace and confidence or reduce. if not e a military organization, a military-political bloc, unlike us, therefore, we have always said, and i have always said here, uh, our position is consistent and understandable, but we have nothing against this sovereign decision of any country to join or not

join economic e associations. ah, the affairs of this economic association to accept its members new, uh, new states or not, as far as possible expedient for the eu. letting it be determined by the eu countries themselves. whether this will be to the benefit or harm to ukraine, this is also theirs . business, uh, business of the ukrainian people and uh ukrainian leadership today, well, the structure of the economy. uh, such is uh ukraine that it will require very large subsidies subsidies. well, if you do not protect the domestic market, and ukraine will finally turn into such a semi-colony. in my opinion, but at the same time it will receive significant enough support for current expenses, it is unlikely that this will lead to the restoration

of the shipbuilding industry of the electronics industry and others lost in, say, the aircraft industry. uh, critical important industries production. it is unlikely that this will be because, uh, the european giants will not create competitors for themselves. uh, some kind of assembly line , probably, it's possible to do it there. well, repeat, it's not our business, but we have never been against it, we have always been against the development of the military development of ukrainian territory, because it threatens our security. that's what they were against. er, well, as far as economic integration, please, that's their choice. what is your opinion that the possible accession of ukraine to the european union any other damage to the eurasian economic union is unlikely , and i can hardly imagine how ukraine's accession to the european

union will take place, since there are very strict requirements. and the ukrainian economy is in a deplorable state. apparently, there is some kind of special program. uh, preferential program for ukraine well, what is happening with this country, of course, causes very sad associations. moreover, we remember in soviet times ukraine was the breadbasket of the soviet union , industrially developed, in the end supplier. in the end, all the former soviet leaders left ukraine, but i remember this well, therefore, unfortunately, times are changing, what is now is a new reality, which i spoke about, so only returning to your question about the european union, but such a decision was made

to help ukraine enter. indeed, as the president of the russian federation correctly says, this is an economic union, if he considers it possible for ukraine to be present in its ranks in this particular economic organization, then, of course, uh, you need to take it as reality? thank you, i already wrote publicly . over the past decade, they have been squandered in ukraine, of course. er, what was created over the previous decade. here are the main industries. uh, industry and economy. they practically ceased to exist. this is a very, very sad thing or a. and it’s not even a matter of the current situation in the military sphere and in, uh, our special operations in the donbass are being done in the structure of the economy itself. e ukraine well agriculture. there still exists, but everything else is in a very difficult situation,

therefore ability. e to restore a very small weak need, of course, many billions of tens of billions of investments are needed in order to restore a normal existence. look, we have imposed sanctions. uh, so, to put it mildly, let's say hard yes center. the bank was forced to raise the central electricity rate, yes, the key rate to 20%. but now it is already nine and eight and five tenths of a percent, and our inflation is declining, it jumped, as much as it was 17.8 at its peak. yes, and now it's already 16.7 and tends to to decrease. we generally deflationary spiral. today, such a threat was also promised at the forum by specialists. eh, i mean. we need to think about it, because last month inflation was 0.07%, that is, it tends to zero, and in this sense, of course, we need to think about deflation, but look how the ruble has

strengthened, but this is not very well, they say, it is necessary that 70 cost. well, 70-75 uh, so this is for uh. well, it's all for everyone. well, for everyone involved in the economy. clearly you sold for importers. it didn't sell well. uh, goods well, conditionally for 1,000 dollars they brought here and changed it. if e, then the dollar costs 80 conventionally or 75 rubles. you did it. uh, 75 there uh 75,000. yes, you need to change to dollars. yes, and if it costs, as it is today, how much is 56.6 today, in my opinion, yes, accordingly, we got less rubles , and you need to spend money in rubles. here is for importers. this certainly does not look good for exporters. maybe, on the contrary, with such an e with such an exchange rate of the dollar and the ruble in relation to each other , there is a danger that cheap e, cheap and

will go. well, there are pluses and minuses here, but in any case, the viability of the russian economy. it turned out to be much higher than our uh, friends in quotation marks thought. yes, uh, that's all thanks to the robust macroeconomic policies of recent years. it is primarily thanks to this that everything happens, but here is how the key sectors of the economy will behave. we are the industry. we support uh yes, we understand there are uh complexities uh with supply chains with components and we are expecting more problems. we are waiting for them to grow. we are aware of this , but we will say such things. here, if like agriculture, look, growth is 3.2% a in four months. and for january, in general, there were two and three, and now i’ll move on to two main ones, on the contrary, they changed the numbers, and in the construction site

of the building complex there, for april, in general, almost eight percent seven and nine tenths percent growth in april. and in total for this period of the first 5.8 years, in my opinion, yes, yes, they say, the market fell, no one bought anything in construction. here is such an increase, uh, for the first four months of this year, if a fall in the auto industry a fall in metallurgy, but some experts say they were oversized in our country, you need to keep this in mind. but still, you understand this, these are living industries, living enterprises. god bless economic and our neighbors. despite all the problems that are happening now, are uh, accession, uh to the european union capable of giving new impetus to the development of a key direction. uh, here in ukraine i don’t know the ukrainian people, they are talented and certainly have great potential and we proceed from the fact that it’s early

or later the situation will return to normal and we are interested in prosperity for all our neighbors. then it's inevitable. so i want to make it clear that it is inevitably inevitable, and the restoration of relations, but today we are transiting, let's say, let's say, as much gas through the territory of ukraine, it receives transit money. so by the way. therefore, for this reason, yes, everyone is also setting us up so much that we would transcend more, pay something more there . but it actually happens. and why? yes, because they don't want to pay ukraine. although we have been paying, this has been going on for ten years. yes, that's why a and what in this regard, where there are more pluses and minuses. it's hard for me to say now, let that decide. uh, uh,

people in ukraine and the european union do not want to pay. nobody wants to pay. this is how the world works, no one wants to pay. and also arranged in the world. so relationships are a thing. so fluid and rather fluid and fluid in terms of repairing relationships, let's remember what kind of relationship we have, you know what's the matter. that's where the problem came from. uh, the fourteenth year and the coup d'état in ukraine because of the fact that the former president is yunukovych. uh, said i needed to think about principles. e, means associated associated membership of the european union of ukraine and why do you understand, if you opened it now , read e, means principles and requirements. in ukraine, they actually took them to associate membership, well, the requirements are absolutely redundant, they just kill at all uh, all the basics. uh, they killed

all the basics for that period of time. uh, it means that the main branches of production were simply opening the gates of the gate. uh, the customs gate of ukraine for relatively cheap and high-quality products from the eu countries. well, the heads could not be raised by the entrepreneur, but it happened that they did not want to join. he says, i need to think about these parameters, i need to work on these parameters, no, immediately now. well, the result is lost, i absolutely repeat the aircraft industry of the court, who needs uh ukrainian aircraft industry? well, to whom. here are the engines of the structure, the motor siz produced this. uh, that means the engines are all russian, uh, that means, uh, the entire russian helicopters, both civilian and military, were all completed. uh,

ukrainian-made motors. who needs them, except us, but no one. well, that's it, it ends there under safely aviation, who needs ukrainian? yes, no one in the world, perhaps, needs ukrainian competitors, but do you understand nonsense? he is not ukrainian, they say everyone needs it. yes, there, apart from the woods, it means only the bald mountains. there will soon remain, so will the wheat corn. nobody needs anything more ukrainian there. trust me. it's such a subtle thing. well, of course, in today's conditions go ahead. well, please, let them want it's none of our business, well, there are many problems. yes, you said about the relationship that they will restore relations. what a fluid thing. how can you remember 20 years ago what kind of relations we had within our country with chechnya and the chechen republic, and now the chechen

people are on the side. there we see all this, but this question is about how quickly things change in relation to relationships. and if you look at it more globally, that someday everything will end, and the world will become safer as a result and will it become safer? we do have. uh, the danger that we'll get at our border. be - this is the border in kiev or in poland what will be there on our border by that time we will get on this border even more angry stronger more fortified nato ah, will it be safer for us or have we already understood so much that with them like you they said today it is impossible to agree, about nothing we even comply with the previous agreements. they are not we are ready that, in principle, we don’t care anymore and we just, as you recently said, are returning ours , by the way, for the first time in my memory, so this is a rumor about this. they said and i know a lot of people who really wanted to

hear it from you. well, first of all, it really is. i spoke publicly without any hesitation. this is the soviet union what is it historical in russia that's what it is. well, it happened, so he rolled his existence. and i want to emphasize this. we are always respectful for the latest history related to the processes of sovereignization that took place in the post-soviet space. well, look, we have allied relations with kazakhstan. we are members of one defense bloc, we are members of one economic organization. well, who in russia can think of spoiling relations with kazakhstan on any issues whatsoever, but you understand this is nonsense, we are interested in strengthening such relations , it would be the same with ukraine, but absolutely listen, if we had

good allied . uh, hmm, just partnerships at least relationship. well, it didn’t occur to anyone, there wasn’t, by the way, the problems would even be covered, because if the failures of the people who live there, the russian-speaking population, were observed. would respect the russian language culture, well, it never occurred to anyone, you know? on them , everything was done with their own hands by this nationalism, which, by the way, is also party bosses. uh, in soviet times there, uh, holly was cherished yes, he eventually began to gain momentum after gaining sovereignty, but every day every day, despite our massive support for the sale of energy resources at overpriced prices, practically subsidizing. eh, the same economy. uh, in ukraine, all this nationalism was growing, growing, growing. why, for the sake of what, it is not clear because of some ambitions of some

group of people, you know, some uh, in the subsequent gangs there. well, that's all. e! now, if we had had normal relations, there would be nothing like a tragedy. today would not exist. well, it's not our doing as far as the future is concerned. well , you know, here only uh, well, first of all, we are we are ready to build relationships with everyone, despite, uh, today's events. the first, and the second, after all, guarantees of our security, can only be the army and navy. as we remember our only two allies, vladimir vladimirovich, it is unpleasant to think about it, nevertheless. and why is it so hard for us with the former with the former, in principle, it’s hard, but specifically with ukraine only, is it

the fact that here, as a kozlevich, the priests frowned there, yes, and they frowned for a long time, not for memorable times, or did we we are not finalizing this issue either. me and kasim jamata. uh, dear mr. president of kazakhstan, kemer or what? ah, do you have the feeling that russia could? well , be more careful or something? could this be phrased differently? these are questions for both presidents. all these years, of course. well, of course, look, firstly, we are talking about this, there we just mentioned returning ours, but historically. yes, of course, that's all the black sea, let's say we don't really pretend there is all this, but nonetheless. it's a fact, where did it come from

the result of several wars with the turkish empire? well, what kind of ukraine, and here ukraine means, it has nothing to do with this at all, it means that the western parts of ukraine went as a result of the second world war , they took away the territory of hungary, romania and poland, which means to ukraine, e, rewarding the same poland with eastern lands. e of germany yes, the whole left-bank ukraine is known how it developed, and ukraine came to the russian empire with three territories , in fact, e, it means kiev kiev region zhytomyr chernihiv that's all 1.500 some forty, fifth year, or something, everything that got, then as a result of the formation of the soviet union in 1922, it meant that there was vladimir.