good afternoon ksenia shakalova, sputnik news agency. i have questions from both minister and president of azerbaijan ilha. aliyev announced the need to say goodbye to the mediation of the osce minsk group on the karabakh settlement due to the lack of any results for 20 years of activity. russia shares the point of view of the president of azerbaijan and. e. what possible new formats for the karabakh regulation are considered by these jans for russia to replace the osce minsk group and was this discussed? question? during today's negotiations? thanks, i 'll start. in principle, we did not discuss the minsk group, as such, because it ceased its activities. at the initiative of the american and french participants, but uh, post-conflict settlement processes. of course, we

discussed, and the basis for these new processes lies in the three tripartite statements of the leaders of russia-azerbaijan and armenia, in fact, after the events of september november, 2020 , and all the developments that were available and that were discussed for many years without visible results. they, as they say, already e want to pick up the russian expression in english overdeacon buy events, but, as it were, the events on earth themselves. they left these documents behind. this is just an objective reality and three statements made by the leaders of russia-azerbaijan. armenia signed. they are now universally recognized as the basis for the movement. e on the final closure of all outstanding issues. so we

proceed from this, as i understand it. uh, this reality is recognized and, uh, our european neighbors, who are trying in every possible way to introduce e. uh, european union efforts in. e. the solution of the remaining tasks, but they all admit that these tasks are set out in the three documents that i mentioned, which are in no way connected with the activities of the minsk group in russia. they are with the developments that were available within this group , and with the exception of the ultimate goal, and the ultimate goal was precisely to liberate, and the areas that surround karabakh and resolve issues of life. e. karabakh itself and its population. for my part, i also, as it were, added sergey things in sufficient detail and exhaustive

gave a description of what is happening now and the situation in the place of the group, which we all, as it were, have the opportunity to observe, but i would have left a little for 2 years, almost a year and a half ago and would like to note that the low group. as you know , the institute of minsk group co-chairmanship was established in 1992 and has existed since 1997 and has been operating for almost three decades. unfortunately, e. the result was not achieved. based on the results of the forty -four-day patriotic war and the signing tripartite statement azerbaijan single-handedly implemented four resolutions of the un security council and liberated e, seven e, occupied regions,

despite the fact that until 2020. e, no result was achieved after the signing of the tripartite statement, and contacts with the minsk group continued in december 2020. e co-chairs of the group. they visited the here e region with them. uh, at the highest level, uh, the president of the country had a meeting with a conversation where they were frank and openly informed. uh, all uh questions, as well as was proposed. the chairman of the minsk group to give their vision of how they see their role in the new post-conflict situation, taking into account the fact that almost all of the uh, let's say uh elements that

were relevant for this period were provided for by the so-called madrid principles. they've already found their, uh, resolution. they are fixed implemented. uh, the tripartite statement - that regulates. with all this, the azerbaijani side did not refuse contacts and interaction, and it was proposed by the co-chairs groups. give them a vision. give their plan of action in proposals that would be acceptable to the parties. and after that, contacts with the minsk group continued for almost another year, but, unfortunately , during this year. we have not received any effective proposals from the co-chair of the minsk group, but since february. in 2022, in view of the well-known, reasons, the format of interaction between the co-chairs of the minsk group was completely and we received this information from various sources. e

sources, including those from e russian archive, but not only in this situation, the position of the azerbaijani side is that for us the priority is the process of normalization; for us, the priority is the issue of achieving long-term lasting, e and sustainable peace in the region. and from this uh prism. uh, a process can't be held hostage by a format. naturally, we cannot focus on non-existent formats. please, the second question yes, i ask akhmedov maryana news agency trend my question to mr. lavrov, as you noted the questions building peace in the region, including the delimitation of the borders of establishing communications, were widely discussed at the meetings. however, observation from the side gives reason to believe that armenia is again

trying not to fulfill its obligations. at the same time, to win time , revanchist aspirations are clearly observed in the country. uh, definitely a solution, and the normalization of relations requires significant political will. and azerbaijan has already shown it. eh, how are you? you see, the role of the world community and in particular russia in ensuring an unambiguous and unequivocal approach on the part of armenia on this issue. thank you well, you have such a solid statement, we spoke just a couple of weeks ago in yerevan during my visit from the prime minister. we are with the minister of foreign affairs. they confirmed their readiness to participate, in the second meeting within the framework of the delimitation commission, this meeting was agreed in moscow on our territory. and we are now selecting

dates that will be convenient for both parties. i didn't see where? wherever there were signals that that the parties have changed their minds, and they want, uh, one of them or the other, but to participate in this work on the contrary. i received confirmation in yerevan as well. today , negotiations are entering that delimitation is a very important component of all efforts. at this stage thank you for saying the world community, that is, russia thank you i would also not like to respond to the question you asked. look you touched on several important elements and said about

the political will establishment of an opposite peace? this is really, probably, the most important and correct. azerbaijan's position on this issue is very, very simple, lucid and consistent. we proceed from the fact that for the first time since gaining, or rather , putting up independence, both in azerbaijan and, e., in armenia, a truly unique opportunity has appeared. uh, to achieve normalization and the establishment of normal good-neighbourly relations between our countries at the interstate level, because the fundamental problem, which existed during the occupation. it is eliminated and comes out. it is because of this, and not only

in words, but actually in the actions taken, that i will not go into details now. let me give you three concrete examples. within a short period of time after the end of the war and the signing of the tripartite statement, we are literally talking about the very beginning of 2021. it was azerbaijan in the face of its leader, who for the first time said and said that azerbaijan is ready to turn the page of hostility, azerbaijan is ready work on a peace treaty between the two countries. returning to the theme of vision and political will. if someone in the world or in the region believes that this was a simple decision and it was very easy to do, i recommend that these people visit the liberated, a previously

occupied territories and see what we saw back here. and within a very short period of time after all this, to say about it, but openly this is really something that requires political will and a great president of azerbaijan, this proposal was made for a year azerbaijan remained. uh, hung in the air without any reaction in 2022 in february? in 2022, azerbaijan took the next step, and these were the names of azerbaijan, which put on paper and handed over to the armenian side the basic principles, fundamental principles, the establishment of international relations. uh, state relations between, uh, armenia and azerbaijan, which, by the way, was quite uh, positive, and including, uh, perceived at least was not rejected by the armenian

political leadership. it was very positive accepted in the world. after that, there was quite a lot of diplomatic activity and an incentive. for this positive movement, again, there was the position of the azerbaijani side. finally, the third factor that i want to pay attention to today during our discussions during the questions already raised, sergey viktorovich commented in sufficient detail from all the different, let's say, tracks of the potential normalization of armenians, azerbaijani relations, we believe that, say, more in total we have advanced, but in terms of opening communications. it’s clear that there’s nothing concrete yet, but at least at the level of conversations about the positions of some informal pre-e-e agreements, this topic is the closest thing to reach an agreement and launch this process a project, which is a process that we believe can be serious driver in terms of

normalization, but i would like to remind you that it was azerbaijan, represented by its president, who proposed and insisted on the inclusion of this provision. me in a tripartite statement regarding the opening. uh, communications and thus reestablishing economic ties. uh, realizing that this may indeed be the point that can be the initial step for, say, normalization, as far as hmm is concerned, but in general, the assessment of the situation. i think the situation where we are talking about normalization will not go away now. uh, in the details of all the tracks. yes, a peace treaty, delimitation, transport e, communication issues. i don't know confidence measures and so on. here the situation is probably more complex than just a black and white picture, that

is, and i would not characterize it. as we say very bad or good. uh, there's some movement. we look at the situation with uh, very, very cautious, uh optimism. if we compare what we have today with what it was a year ago, there are probably more positive moments than what we had a year ago. whether this speed is satisfactory or good is difficult to assess, because there are too many factors, but at least, uh, what we really, but don’t want this hmm to be some kind of nascent, but it would not turn into dynamics. let's say in the title of a well-known work one step forward and two steps back. the main thing is that even if the movement is very slow, but in order for it to be progressive

and consistent, in terms of positive we will observe the next question. ask. thanks anton zolotnitsky there is news sergey viktorovich ukraine and moldova are now officially candidates for an offensive in the european union charmey. shane has already called this moment historical, in your opinion. this eu decision will have at least some practical consequences or is it just a demonstrative action against russia thank you you know, our position has always proceeded from the fact that the european union is not a military-political bloc, therefore, unlike the light of the atlantic alliance, the development of its relations with any countries that wish it does not create any threats and risks for us about this again . e confirmed uh president putin speaking. uh, during the discussion at the

st. petersburg international economic forum together. we are perfectly aware of the fact that the european union a has evolved very strongly over the past few years, that is, not to look for mimicry in towards the acquisition of such an aggressive physiological background, first of all, the russophobic background, and we are paying attention. as the representatives of the european union themselves, when they lecture publicly to countries that either already have the status of a candidate or wish to acquire such status, they directly declare within the framework of these strict public notations and moralizing. if you are a candidate, then you have no choice but to support all, without exception, the external political approaches of the european union, including all those

the measures that the european union is taking against the russian federation are almost a quote and this is exactly how european officials address their demands, in particular, from serbia, who are a candidate, but categorically do not want to lose their independence, like everyone else, and join decisions that directly contradict her fundamental interests. in this case, the relationship with the russian federation, which was one of the few in those years when nato committed aggression against yugoslavia and then still a gross violation of all the principles of the osce, it was the first situation when the osce countries. they attacked, bombed, including the civilian infrastructure of another state that was part of the organization for

security and cooperation in europe, they bombed bridges, bombed passenger trains bombed the television center, and other objects were purely civilian. e, therefore, when e serbia does not want to forget about the solidarity that russia has shown in these years a. well, probably, we should at least respect the serbian people and their historical memory. i didn't talk about history about history more ancient years, the second world war and other events of our common history that preceded it, therefore, here is such a shameless unceremonious demand of the european union if you want to be a candidate with us. on the way to membership, you are already obliged to take a russophobic position. in other words, the european union proves that it, uh, does not want any

unifying tendencies in europe, that it does not fulfill and is not going to fulfill the existing agreements between the russian federation and the countries of the eu, but regarding the development of common spaces in the economy in the humanitarian sphere in sphere of internal security and does not want to fulfill those tasks that were formulated on the basis of lofty goals, but rather the creation of a common common common space from the atlantic to the pacific ocean. etc. all this is behind all this in the past and, of course, we will really look at the behavior of the european union and follow the real steps that it takes and how the candidate countries change these requirements or

still try to show their independence. we have few illusions that the current russophobic charge in the european union will somehow dissipate, or change in the foreseeable future. and to be honest in the long term, but this is the path that the europeans have chosen, and the path that uh hmm unfortunately, it reminds you, you know, when the second world war began, because uh, hitler uh, almost gathered under his banner. well, a significant part, if not most of the european countries for the war against the soviet union here. now , including the european union, together with nato, they are gathering the same modern coalition to fight on a large scale. the account of the war with the russian federation will be on all this. watch very carefully thank you and

the last question. ask. hello azerbaijani channel areal tv olviya huseynova dear ministers, my question concerns cooperation between the two states in the field of mass media. unfortunately, there are some problems today. e, in particular, today on the territory of the russian federation, a number of azerbaijani information resources are blocked, and for all of us known reasons,

the ria novosti news agency is blocked on the territory of azerbaijan. security. i would like to ask how you assess the current level, as well as the prospects for future development of cooperation between azerbaijan and russia in this area thank you very much. these are two completely different issues. the agreement that we signed today on international information security is not about the activities of the media, but about the problems that are created in cyberspace as a result of attempts to use cyberspace for military purposes, this is a topic that has long been discussed in the united nations russia has been initiator of these discussions. special structures have now been created there to develop rules behavior in cyberspace. both in terms of preventing the use of this environment for military

purposes, and the parallel process of preventing the use of cyberspace for criminal purposes. as for the media. yes, today and yesterday we discussed this topic with the president of azerbaijan. we have an understanding of the cause. according to which from this or that decision on this or that side of e, is taken by e we e, we know the examples that one side gives and which the other side gives and we have. uh, common understanding that on the basis of respect for each other's laws and on the basis of respect for principles based on these laws. freedom of information. we will be hosting a special series of events between uh, first, uh, top media executives from both sides, including the owners of the social media owners,

and. uh, let's talk frankly about how we cover events in each other's territory, based on the relevant laws once again emphasized. we have. eh, consent, what is it. uh, such consultations work, and we will organize under the auspices of infrahearing. information of the ministry of foreign affairs i would also like to comment on this topic, indeed there is a large level of interaction between the relevant structures between the power of the republic of azerbaijan. and the russian federation along with this, it is no secret that in recent months there have been, er, problematic issues on a number of facts. and as you said, uh, several uh private

azerbaijani media resources were blocked in the russian federation at the beginning of the month at the beginning of this month, the state information ria novosti agency was blocked in azerbaijan naturally. i don't like all these discussions and consultations that take place between structures and departments. they occur let's say mails and open mode. naturally, this is a topic that worries us all. and before that, we talked about it today as part of our discussions. this topic was touched on the main direction, the main emphasis was placed on the fact that we should think about working out e mechanisms that would stimulate more. uh, preventing such cases than let's say. uh, something negative happens and then we start dealing or trying to deal with the consequences. it seems to us that it is more productive to try to eliminate them from the point of view of contact and consultation, if you need round

tables, uh, they, uh, will be very useful and there is, uh, mutual understanding between the parties, a about the agreement that we signed today and sergey viktorovich has already commented on different ones. in general, the media space media security, information security, it is in modern world is becoming more and more important and relevant. naturally, there is the relevant legislation of the russian federation of the republic of azerbaijan that regulates this, as well as in a number of bilateral agreements, there is a provision that regulates these issues in general. we consider that we have signed today's agreement. it is also additional , let's say. uh hmm element. e in the piggy bank of regulatory legal. uh, bases. e, questions are defined there, how to counteract? what is a

threat? uh, because cyberspace, then a space that is very widely used in the world, what are the challenges, and those, let's say, but directions that may pose a threat to the sovereignty of the territory. the integrity of the parties' national security elements that have a negative impact on the public political e, socio-economic system moral cultural environment public order. e, preventing the encouragement or propaganda of terrorism of separatism and a number of other negative e manifestations that may take place and are in the agreement. naturally also incorporated mirism cooperation interaction and consultation and believe that the respective e, the structure of the two countries will use this tool very effectively.