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i'm anton podkovenko on air at fifth studio, and we'll start today with the topic of russophobia in greece, the russian foreign ministry is talking about the fact that greece has ceased to be safe for the rest of russians, there are more and more cases of discrimination on the basis of nationality of russians and russian-speaking russian-speaking citizens, and the population is even attacked, including on children and a number of victims required hospitalization , tass reports and the russian media also they write that greek banks are blocking the accounts of russians, we will discuss this whole situation and all these cases with andrey maslovy, the russian ambassador to the greek republic is now on a video link with the fifth studio. andrey mikhailovich hello. good afternoon. hello andrey mikhailovich, tell us,

please, is the level of russophobia really so critical now in greece. what data is received by the embassy? e what do you know? indeed, greece, perhaps, has ceased to be a favorable country for holding. it 's summer vacation here, because after february 24, the wave of russophobia in the media does not weaken. and she warms up. ah, from the political leadership of the country, literally. every day, we hear anti-russian statements and all this creates, of course, a very unfavorable atmosphere. as for security itself, i would not say that these threats are very great for russian citizens and they come,

of course, not from the greeks, but from nationalist -minded ukrainians, both permanently residing in this country, and the so-called refugees. facts such uh we know we are regularly called, the victims in the embassies, but uh, as a rule, there is no video or photo documentation , the place where it happened is not always known. uh, often we we don’t know, uh, the victims, uh, sometimes the information comes from third parties, but reliable facts, uh, were recently stated in the report of the ministry of foreign affairs and it is a violation of the rights of russian citizens and compatriots in foreign

countries. i would like to emphasize that in the case of such attacks, facts of aggression, insults , it is necessary to contact the greek police. naturally, the russian foreign institutions and the embassy in athens and the consulate general in the cabin, as always, will also be ready to provide all possible assistance, of course. now opportunities our mm in this regard is limited because. and the greek authorities stopped all contacts, both with the embassy and with the consulate general, and after the mass expulsion of a large group of russian diplomats on april 12, consular employees also suffered, but despite this, we will always, but respond to an appeal to us. and at

the very least, we will provide advisory assistance regarding the number of our citizens here, on consular records. uh, we have about 20,000 people according to the greek migration authorities of russian citizens, there are more than 40,000. well, as for compatriots, it is several hundred thousand. andrey mikhailovich, i wanted to ask you a question. here, if there is any information from the greek side about whether they will resolve the issue of russophobia, but since you said that there are no contacts, i understand that here, uh, officially the greeks do not say anything on this topic. yes, i understand correctly with russophobia. uh, of course, they are not going to do anything here, because, as i said, it was from the political level, all this is going on, moreover, on a daily basis,

without stopping, and as for russian tourists, the statement of the greek prime minister was very indicative. back at the very beginning of march, when answering relevant questions in an interview. he said that this year greece expects 25 or even 30 million foreign tourists and the absence of 500,000 russian tourists is not of great importance for the economy . embassies, should i still go to greece to rest or not, or go on with caution? this is how i would say go. maybe someone really wants to take a vacation. here, despite the great

logistical difficulties associated with the termination of the greek side of air communication with us and in spite of. even the atmosphere and the anti-russian hysteria that reigns in the media , if citizens come here, they must be on the alert. remain vigilant prudence, because in greece now there are quite a few, uh, nationalist ukrainians. and this should be borne in mind andrei mikhailovich, earlier there was information about the quiz question, i want to go over, there was information that greece was suspending the issuance of visas to russian citizens from june 27, that is, today. the reasons were not explained. and now they are already talking about the fact that, after all, visas will continue to be issued. explains this with some technical

problems. please tell me, does it make sense to look for some political background here? or but it's only a matter of technology, our embassy does not have information that hmm, what is the situation there in the greek consular offices. in our country. yeah it's hard to guess what it has some kind of? the background is still the height of the tourist season, we should not forget about it, and i think that the position of the greek ateliers of the heads of large travel companies of restaurateurs still differs from the official position of the greek leadership, which i just spoke about. and, of course, uh, tour operators and atelier operators are waiting for russian

tourists. thanks to. thank you so much. andrei mikhailovich is with us. andrey maslov , the russian ambassador from the greek republic, was in touch and spoke about cases of russophobia. in this country, and russophobia is largely fueled by ukrainian refugees, let's move on to broad geopolitical issues. e get in touch with us. before contacting our studio, grigory karasin, chairman of the committee of the federation council on international affairs, grigory borisovich, comes out on the phone. hello anton, first of all, i would like to ask you a question to discuss nato expansion yes, in that meaning will turkey be able to come to terms with the entry of what? now there is a lot of talk about finland and sweden in the north atlantic alliance. and in general, if this entry takes place. how can this affect the structure of global security? anton i. excuse me, i'll start with i listened to an interview with

our ambassador andrei mikhailovich maslov and i want to. use this opportunity to send a huge hello to all our ambassadors. to all our diplomats who are now at their workplaces in their embassies. uh, they do very useful work, and it seems to me that they are getting out of a rather difficult geopolitical situation with dignity. answering your question. i want to say the following means, uh. well, if it's from the candidacy, excuse me, ukraine and moldova in the european union uh, so, in fact, they are doing such, well, allegedly a demonstration, convincing confirmation that this is a political expansion. so, uh, the expansion of nato, it is caused by a certain emotion of a different kind, only the military-political bloc is expanding, which is approaching our borders. uh,

naturally. e. it's viewed differently around the world i don't think it's exciting in the asia-pacific region or where we say in the middle east in africa we are also uh, thinking about it analyzing the event and trying to uh, calculate our own actions that will be required in connection with the fact that the bloc will come close to our borders to an even greater extent than it was before. ah, but uh in general, the situation is, of course, disturbing u you are used to, besides, in recent months, that the west is the collective west the united states understands every possible measure to infringe on freedom of action. e her russia. eh, as it were, respect for one’s own, e, interests,

in all its own interest, does not suffer from this, but creating a moral environment of hostility around our motherland is, of course, one of the tasks. i think that the expansion of nato, and with its new members, is subordinated to this very task. but turkey. do you think it will yield to our turkish colleagues? not for us. we will carefully monitor this and do appropriate conclusions, but in the end the decision should be made no in turkey they mentioned about a just the same about kiev and chisinau about ukraine and moldova the new status of eu member candidates what do you think, uh, how much hmm does he weigh at all, yes or them, if you can use such an expression, they just threw a bone, yes, they threw a bone, giving them wishful thinking for real. in order to do at least something, i would single out the following. i think that the candidacy of ukraine and moldova in the european union is a convincing proof that

that the game in european integration. it is increasingly acquiring a military-political context. this is worrisome stuff. eh, for a long time they tried to avoid this, but now they all failed, this is a direct confirmation that the expansion of the european union, as i said, is nothing but a political expansion process. this, as we understand it, is not easy, by the way, look at the very same turkey, it has been waiting for a decision on its membership in the european union for a long time, but in the current geopolitical situation, this is exactly how the political candidacy should be treated the game. moreover, the military-political game of the boris territories, what can be said about the ban on the transit of goods in the kaliningrad region, as it was described. this step by lithuania is unprecedented. yes , indeed, there is a huge list of goods and not by rail, not by road.

impossible, all that's left is the sea route and uh, that's how you see the situation developing. uh, some news agencies and international ones have already begun to write that there is a conversation in some structures of the european union in order to win back this situation. is it true what you think i understand, then i think that, uh, this is another vivid example of shooting yourself in the foot, as they say, the game of aggravation with russia has led lithuania into dangerous and logical difficulties. the latest statement by the european union shows that the decision on kaliningrad transit has not been calculated and causes serious negative emotions. in the eu itself, as you said, i hope that the euro officials will once again calculate the legitimacy of the being, and most importantly, the consequences of this unreasonable decision, what is happening is an appropriate reason to call on everyone european partners to think and calculate

such decisions more solidly, otherwise the consequences and response measures will be created in this region. on the whole , the consequences that are difficult to predict as far as lithuania is concerned must be drawn by itself, so as not to aggravate the already difficult situation , which is now obvious because of this decision. thank you very much for commenting with us. in touch was grigory karasin, chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs. now we are moving to the luhansk people's republic at the nitrogen plant in severodonetsk, we will discuss it with rodion miroshnik, ambassador of the lpr in russia, rodion valeryevich hello. yes? hello valeryevich please tell me, yes, this is what we are discussing now the topic is yes it turns out. how many civilians have been evacuated from the territory of the plant at the moment

? well, uh, so let's start from the end, because there are no hostages left by the ukrainian militants . here is the current area nitrogen zone. she is completely freed from ukrainian militants. and people stay there for several reasons. ah. the first of them is, uh, that, firstly, where this number of people simply have nowhere to go, and they do not want to leave the territory, severodonetsk and such are about 30%. that is, and the people who decided to stay there for the time being, their bomb shelter. now our fighters bring food, water, medicines. that is, there is everything necessary in order to lead some more or less, but a normal way of life for some people already evacuated according to the data for this morning. that's just over 500 people who decide to leave. uh, a shelter on the territory of the severodonetsk nitrogen. they were taken out by transport, basically, starobelsk, there is a distribution point there. where do people make decisions? where do they want to go next, where do they have relatives, or

do they want to go. this is a temporary accommodation. ah, so it means that now in the territory of nitrogen, again, according to preliminary data , there are about 500 more people, that is plus or minus there is about 50 people, probably and these people. uh, that is, some of them, but for now they can’t get out, because some of the passages there are mined. uh, and now experts from the luhansk people's militia are clearing mines. and these people will already be able to make a decision for themselves, either to leave, or to stay on the territory of severodonetsk here. i have already said that about 30 percent. this is probably, well, in the end it turns out that 300 people do not want to leave severodonetsk at all. hope that, but a very short period, at least some system will be restored life of the city, and they will be able to return to their homes. and who has it left in general posted photos of some of the evacuees in their telegram channel? yes, that's what people says because the first interviews began to appear. yes , it means people will tell, sometimes scary things, because firstly, some of them say that

people, where one of them was in a bomb shelter, and they were closed, some simply did not allow militants to come to them, who tried in the same way, actually hide in the territory and nitrogen. and they tried to break. just in the shelter, where there were peaceful some of them, they just tried to smoke out. and here is the change only to the outer outer contour. here is the hostilities around, but forced them to leave them and leave, and some of the bambo beliefs were really mined, traps or tripwires were set up, but people say that among the militants. they saw e foreign mercenaries. mostly they talk about the english-speaking, that is, the british-americans talk about the presence of poles a and georgians. e. these are the ones who were in the area. and people also say that but to those whom they addressed, they said, well, we could open a humanitarian corridor, but this is only on foot, in fact, to hold on to the rope. through seversky donetsk and only in the direction of lisichansk. no humanitarian

corridors that were opened by the armed forces of the allied forces. ah, the residents simply did not know about it, nothing was said to them during this time. but now it is by and large. this is already in the past, now the question is how to deal with lisichansk, where active hostilities are now taking place, because, uh, the dominant height and shelling of severodonetsk frontier flint depends precisely on the situation, or lisichansk is one valeevich, just such lisichansk, information has passed through the agencies. yes, that several high-ranking employees of the office of the president of ukraine zelensky are, just the same, in lisichansk. are there any details on this matter. eh, who are these people? what is known is what they were doing there at all now, but we can only guess, because they are after all, if and they are located in the inner circuit, and only plums can talk about this. but from some ukrainian internal publics or conversations, that is, it was about the presence there. several people, i will deliberately not name names, they are online now. e, now

i'm supervising, well, these topics are being discussed, but we can't confirm the names of those present there . but, that is, it was said that there really were a couple of people, who one of them is a deputy of the verkhovna rada, another person who has close relation to the office of the president, but because it was said a lot that lisichansk is, well, a politically important object specifically for the office of the president, because the surrender of the entire triangle is uh. here, well, a rather strong informational blow to zelensky's image in the first place, as a structure that, well, allegedly wins. yes, from the position of the winners it is easier to ask the west for money. but as far as ukraine receives one after another, but real blows on the ground. well, confirmed about the information field. and here already it becomes difficult to simply turn to sponsors and donors who can support ukraine at this time, it is accepted and now, returning to nitrogen. and how many surrendered. at the moment, the figure is 70 people more or less, and what

will happen next in the territory of nitrogen? what are the actions of the people's militia, according to the territory of the nitrogen, the action of the people's militia will be exactly the same as in the entire territory of severodonetsk that is, as soon as conditions without security allow. there they will try to put it in order and conduct assessment. that is, how in what state are the objects, how they are, how much they suffered, again technologically, how capable the enterprise is of recovery. that is, everything is the same that is carried out on the territory. severodonetsk already has, uh, and the mayor of the city, that is, the head of the city’s interim administration, and people are trying to concentrate their efforts on restoring life and the city and assessing the damage that well has been inflicted on this territory to say exactly about the number of people. uh, so now difficult enough, because a lot of the militants they dissipated, that is, they tried to get away in around the city are located. well, forest plantations, so they left through them, therefore, someone was caught as an orphan, someone in a panicle

of someone. on the bank of the seversky donets, some part of it managed to cross and set off. well, we will catch up with them already in lisichansk thank you to your homeland valeryevich thank you for your detailed comment with us. rodion miroshnik, ambassador of the lpr, was in touch. in russia it was the fifth studio. see you. now footage from the government house good afternoon, dear colleagues, let's start with an important issue, which concerns the provision of housing for people on behalf of the president, the government is expanding.