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security conference that took place under under the auspices of the osce. this is the organization for security in europe, as you know, and it holds, and such conferences. true, so far this has not found much reflection in the media, but nevertheless. as far as i understand , the issue that was discussed there was extremely important, and the details of this conference, and what was discussed ? and i'm so right, uh, made an introduction or maybe something i missed, but in the news and in the tops i did not see, but some informational hmm reasons, nevertheless. i understand that there is something to talk about and there is something to say to people. good morning. once again, very cool. start the morning in your favorite studio russia 24 with you, dear friends. er, actually, of course you won't find any

top news about this conference. uh, in general , what is happening in the osce has become quite marginal for a long time, because apart from ukraine , uh, they have practically stopped discussing anything here yet, therefore, against the backdrop of these euro-atlantic events. you understand that the conference itself fell, just between two millstones between a meeting of a group of families in germany and the start of nato itself in brussels, so where, naturally, the dominant topic was ukraine, therefore, for obvious reasons, uh, in vienna it also became central well , at least that's how it was intended. although the mandate of the conference, uh, compose. everything else, in 2002, the ministers agreed on a completely different concept for its implementation, but the polish current presidency, following the lead of uh, americans and western representatives. eh, everything, reduced to a

discussion. i would not even say that the discussion on ukraine is as much a pitiful, primitive attack on russia in the context of our special military operation. well, and so on, but as far as i want to say for sure, that as our operation on the ground of the allied forces of russia, the dpr, lpr is successfully moving forward. very primitive and uh, even uh, it’s hard to pick up a russian word uh propaganda of our western representatives uh, they become, except rebuke. uh, there was nothing, in fact, they naturally played on a resonant one for their capitals. uh, the cases in kremenchug, uh, in fact, the concept was built on this uh . uh,

such a statement that, in connection with what is happening in his country, you need to find almost a quote , you need to find ways to remove russia from participation in the osce as soon as possible, but, of course, no one supported this topic, because this impossible to do, taking into account, uh, procedures, yes, and uh, the political expediency of this step. this, of course, distinguishes our platform from all others, including the council of europe, and, in fact, it will be changed for god's sake. i want to ask you. and why , in fact, do you say that it is impossible to do this, it is impossible to do it on procedural issues or on any other issues, because here they are talking about what we allegedly need. and remove from uh, the un and so on. and it's all in one bottle. i understand so well well, it's certainly a coordinated line. eh,

quite primitive. uh, that russia needs to be removed from all international structures for uh, what happened in ukraine, and this is the procedure, because there is a consensus in the osce without a consensus. here the decision is not made and cannot be made. naturally. uh, consensus can't be reached on the demands of one member state alone . well, as for the un, it already seems to me very cool. uh, ukrainian propagandists were besieged, professional representatives of the general assembly that uh hmm such matters are authorized to solve only their own security. and there you understand our place. uh, extremely and uh, no such steps can be taken, because jointly. it also works on the basis of, uh, consent, everyone knows all this, it's like,

how the foam was, uh, to frame and avoid discussion of really key, uh, security issues, uh, which are directly related to food security and climate, e, new challenges and threats to common security, which, by the way, was the main element of the concept that the minister agreed to for this particular port conference in 2002. well , the poles let's go our way. eh, they are, in principle, now, uh, working. so the organization. as they say incense, breathes. uh, in connection with their attempts to ukrainize. uh, the entire agenda of our organization, be it committees, standing councils, and so on and so forth. that's all, we have been going through this for a long period since 2014, but

nevertheless, all the previous chairmen still was courage and strength. uh, shape a broader agenda. i want to tell you for sure that with all this anti-russian bacchanalia, voices still sounded, including among major representatives of western countries in the same great britain italy spain e, some others that all the same problems of a global nature and security problems in europe it's not only ukraine, it's much more, uh, a wide range of problems, and in this sense, we are of course in our speech. you must have read it, the head of our delegation, the director of the department pan-european cooperation. e nikolai sergeevich kapriz yes, he went through everything hard in our organization, dotted it and we did our best. strengthen these signals e, absolutely pointwise rapper on showing e, the problems that

our organization will have to face in the context of the overall global efforts to restore stability and predictability of the international situation. alexander academician. so you said about kremenchug, uh, so slippery, but still, but, besides the fact that it’s clear that kuleba propagandized this story, their version of this story, that, allegedly, we are deliberately hitting civilian targets, and so on. this whole song is known, but there have already been refutations to prove that the facts are that they are being shot. president and once again the day before he said that we do not shoot, we shoot anywhere, we shoot where military facilities are needed. a and. and if there are voices in the osce who say, well, let's listen to at least an alternative opinion, because we are accused of propaganda, as a rule, but they themselves do exactly the same thing and do not let us say anything. and in general, uh, here you can talk about propaganda in different ways, whether

it is good or bad, nevertheless, there are some sensible voices. alexander you are right, uh sound voices uh. unfortunately, i have not heard these days, but you understand, when a professional diplomatic conversation is being held. there, of course, uh, arguments and professional arguments based on facts and real things are evaluated in a completely different way, perhaps, and we certainly took advantage of the opportunity and the right to answer, because the bacchanalia e came simply. well, you understand, this, of course, is definitely not came to stand up in the hall. uh, as it was in the security council on the eve of the conference, but nevertheless here are the nauseating cries about kremenchug yes, but we showed very clearly based on accurate

information from the ministry of defense and also played uh hmm based on the video posted by the notorious mr. gerashchenko showing uh , means, shelves with bottles and so on and so on saved. well, you know, well, it's funny. uh, that is, this fake, which, of course, was conceived on the eve of all these international events with in order to get as much as possible a solidarity response from the west. and the most important weapons and so on. and we also brought uh, interesting materials from the ministry of defense of ukraine, which are uh after uh, this event. e, with the shelling, angara distributed a special such propaganda leaflet for all the mass media of ukraine, as well as an advice to the western media to take into account only the ukrainian version of these events, they quoted this leaflet. well, of course

, the answer was just that it was propaganda, nothing to do uh with what really happened, but it’s very difficult to argue with the facts, especially uh, recorded by our ministry of defense from different positions and uh, we made it clear that we shoot only at those objects that pose a threat to our, uh, servicemen , which carries out a special military operation that poses a threat to the civilian population on civilian infrastructure, of course, no one strikes. therefore, a rough fake is like a continuation of bucci, kramatorsk and so on. eh, nevertheless zamli, no one remembered these, we recalled how it happened in bucha said that the participants in this shameful event. already in

kiev in the courts requires more than 50 dollars. nobody was enough. you argued with these facts, because there is no refutation and all these fakes, of course. eh, if you look professionally at the events, it is clear that they are very easily debunked, but this plays on the western audience, of course, uh, squeezing pity regret. uh, here's to those efforts trying to need to wash once a week, because this needs to be explained somehow to people for the sake of which alexander kazemeshevich. thanks a lot. good luck with your work. i remind you, we spoke with the permanent representative of russia to the hmm uh obse continue to release e theme. oh, by the way, which is not directly related to security in europe. this is a question for the transnistrian moldavian republic, the situation in this region remains difficult. this is probably already, but uh, such, well, famous not the right word, but zelensky’s statement

that he made a few days ago that we will respond in case of a threat. from the side of transnistria well, these are the next fairy tales, and vitaly ignatiev and i have the minister of foreign affairs of the transnistrian moldavian republic in touch, and vitaly viktorovich well, when will you attack ukraine tell us, please, good afternoon. i hope that no one will wait for this, of course, because pridnestrovie does not have such plans, and just in the context of the recent statement by the president of ukraine yesterday, our e, the highest representative body of power, the supreme council the pridnestrovian moldavian republic made a separate special statement about this so that urbeya torby already reached and no one had any doubts that we are an exceptionally peace-loving state, that we accept refugees, help people and are tuned to any form of constructive dialogue, both from moldova and from ukraine because, as we hear from the

lips. eh, guidance. moldova also has such threatening militaristic statements. of course, we are very concerned about this phenomenon and in in its statement, our parliament yesterday emphasized that we consider the militarization from neighboring moldova to be extremely dangerous, which no one threatens, including transnistria well, yes, and once again we recall what mr. zelensky said, kiev receives some unpleasant signals quote, a and is ready to respond with a blow in case there are threats from pridnestrovie. here it is on the twenty- seventh. good luck, he said and definitely. and this suggests that uh, well, in fact, ukraine is preparing for a provocation. uh, in order to have them there was a reason to exacerbate the situation. e, vitaliy viktorovich you see, the security service of the republic, but they see changes, while some in any direction from ukraine at the

moment. well, i understand that if this is some kind of secret information, it is not necessary, probably to give it out. i mean what can i say. and we are monitoring this situation, of course, obviously with increased attention, we are working along the entire perimeter of the border with ukraine. we are no less actively monitoring the processes that are taking place in i will bring it to the western border from the side of moldova, of course, there we are seeing a certain movement of the military plan and the concentration of certain units, and so on, work is being done in order to ensure, well, maximum security to protect the interests of our state of our citizens, but i repeat once again that we are mobilized . we are ready for any development scenarios, but, of course, we would not want any, and we do not want provocations against pridnestrovie, for someone to test our strength in any way. we are against this kind of provocations, which were in the form of terrorist attacks on april 24 further in the following months,

including such large-scale ones as the destruction of high-altitude antennas of the mayak television and radio center where there were about 200 kg of explosives. obviously, some kind of sabotage group of 25-30 people, according to our data, entered the territory of pridnestrovie, they were able to mine everything there, but they could not fully realize their plans, we know , we managed to plant one of the drones with explosives. also, by the way, 2 kg. they are from this explosive and we saw that we do not know who cooked. which way this drone was. and who is engaged in this kind of action, because the traces lead to the yavarov training ground in western ukraine of course, we are extremely worried and the president will bring leadership at all levels. uh, the legislature public smith transnistria, we constantly call for calmness and the adequacy of our partners in ukraine. but i once again said about the appeal about the concerns of your legislators. i

want again. uh, show this news members of the supreme council of the transnistrian moldavian parliament the republics adopted an appeal to the world community in connection with the aggravation of the situation in region a and hmm was there a reaction from vitaly viktorovich from this appeal or not everyone read it there, and not everyone read it, apparently. well, most likely everyone has read it, but we are not ready to react yet, we have seen a certain reaction in the media, uh, including the moldovan media where they tried to somehow interpret and engage in non-senations. some individual experts are moldovan, but the essence of this appeal. it is simple, there is no double bottom here. we we do not threaten anyone, but we are talking about the fact that we should not allow, uh, repeat mistakes and allow their actions, which can get out of control and endanger all regional stability and security does not need to be tested for strength or there is no need to look for enemies not worth the enemy. yes , because it is out of the question. uh, our doctrine is

purely defensive our world. we are indeed in a state of conflict with moldova for 30 years, our peace is no longer provided by peacekeeping forces. and if young engaged in militarization today, it is a natural thing. just transnistria why are they doing this against the backdrop of the conflict in ukraine why do we need to saber-rattling? moreover, with someone else’s, nato’s weapons, and taking into account the fact that the conflict has not been resolved for the young, how does normalization help instead of solving the problems of supplying medicines to pridnestrovie to remove blockade restrictive sanctions from our enterprises e lift restrictions from freedom of movement of residents of pridnestrovie yes to decide humanitarian issues. and thereby show some their good intentions guide. moldova actively declares that it is necessary to militarize there to modernize the army. this is what they call today and against it. who are you modernizing against romania with which they already have joint patrolling of the border? there is a legislative basis so that on the territory of moldova there are military police units of any states of

these states that can use food, weapons to detain citizens and so on. that is, essentially. moldova opened its doors to nato today at the legal level at the legislative level and at the same time trying to strengthen his army, of course. don't build is obviously a threat. yes, vitaliy viktorovich, this is what we call the struggle for sovereignty, when you open the borders so that foreign power structures are engaged in restoring order, well, in the understanding of the now new candidates for the eu member of moldova, we now have a candidate. but, apparently, uh, freedom and sovereignty are expressed like this, and vitaly viktorovich thank you very much. let me remind you that vitalia ignatiev is the minister of foreign affairs of the pridnestrovian moldavian republic. we talked about the fact that pridnestrovie does not threaten anyone. well, now we have one more question - this is the liberated territory hmm ukraine berdyansk is news there, and the first grain ships left the sports of berdyansk, but

nevertheless, we now have the opportunity to talk with the acting head of the city, berdyansk alexander saulenko you hear alexander fedorovich. question one, as i understand it, that the demining of the port happened or it was just done by some kind of passage, how are things going with this question. sports, everything is fine with us, the water area and port facilities have been cleared. uh, engineering and sapper work is carried out on the port area and in the event of the discovery of ammunition that cannot be removed. uh, they are being destroyed. well, this does not affect the work of the port, which is evidence that we have already sent the first ship, loaded it safely and she went somewhere to her destination. and alexander fedorovich, but in general, how is your security? in berdyansk, we have a curfew safely

hour from 24:00 to 05:00 in the morning. e, it is carried out by the forces of law enforcement - this is the police. we work very well together with the national guard. uh, they patrol and we have the law and order respected. uh, alexander fedorovich, well, the question is this. uh, are there any attempts to destabilize the ukrainian e, special services, which are now being produced in kherson under the attempts were in other regions. how are you doing with that? we have uh in this matter quiet uh, probably because again thanks to our early order that works. eh, very good and not allow. it's like this, uh, incident. we have berdyansk. uh, people are feeling calm now. eh, the holiday season has begun and this is also

reflected in the overall atmosphere and, well, the state of the citizens, as it were. and this is all that it is in the general atmosphere, how the situation in housing and communal services is reflected. that's where you had problems with gas, as far as i understand. at first, even before the start of the special military operation, in principle, all this happened, but with gas, our issues are resolved by gas already at the border of our region. uh, we have a gas service going on. uh, preventive preparatory work for the reception of gas i think soon this question. uh, he's with a gas supply. we will decide on a ship that came out with grain a few details, maybe we can say something in more detail. this is the first