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the tv program facts continues to review the news, the moldovan position is ready to unite against the ruling party in the country. early elections are possible - this is a statement by former president igor dodon at the same time in romania a conference was held dedicated to western assistance to moldova, hundreds of millions of us are discussing military support. so, in bucharest, the nato eu countries at a special conference discussed direct assistance to the moldovan leadership, and at the same time raised money and raised a total of 600 million euros. the germans and the french 77 and 100 million, respectively, the funds are reported to be channeled through various funds and programs to support the moldovan energy industry to help low-income families for the development of ngos, and in the fall they want to hold another similar conference in paris. in addition , the romanian authorities announced that they are ready help moldova to integrate into the european union. well, the moldovan
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leadership does not hide that it is now also interested in direct military assistance from the west, we need to strengthen the russian army. threat is words of the president of the republic may sandol. well, against this background, the statement of the former moldovan president is playing dodon. he is now under house arrest. dodon himself denies the prosecution about the state change of corruption, calls the case political, so the ex-president did not rule out that all the opposition parties of the republic, both left and right, will unite against the ruling action of solidarity . and by winter in the republic, early parliamentary and even presidential elections are possible. this is with the energy and economic crisis in in the country since the spring, protests have been taking place in moldova, there are calls for the resignation of the government and the president, and the situation in the republic and around it , igor dodon, spoke in detail in an exclusive interview with our channel , my colleague olgarmekova managed to communicate with the former president of moldova, who is under house arrest. igor nikolaevich hello, thank you for agreeing
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to this interview. found time in very difficult conditions. it is important to clarify the details here, our film crew is now at your home, where you have been under house arrest for almost a month and a half and the house has also been arrested, and today they tried to summon your mother to the anti-corruption prosecutor's office, she is accused of complicity in illegal enrichment and this is just one of the charges business? well, what is happening now in moldova, literally. this chaos was not like that. never in 30 years of independence and this shows the weakness of the current leadership of the country. because well, for your viewers, who, uh, maybe don't know everything. details. uh, that's it, it was my opponent, the current president, who won the election, uh, in 2020. well, almost 2 years ago. uh, well, who lost 2016 to me like elections is a
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kind of revenge in order to somehow punish. well , there is no other way to call it, because to attack everyone and me and my family. what is interesting to me over the past year, several times after they took it, the authorities warned me and tried to force me to run away from the country. i would say, i won’t run away from here, and i’m next to their people and certainly it is their uh, very somehow. well, she's a social security officer, so uh, it's political revenge, it's political criminal cases. they have no chance of achieving anything in these cases. we understand all this and an attack on my wife and my loved ones, and even on my mother. well, a woman almost 70 years old to call the prosecutor's office. why is it clear that this is an attempt to psychologically put pressure on me, when it all started it started last year. and this
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coincided with a several times increase in gas tariffs in moldova, you know how else rome had to in order to distract the people they need bread from the spectacle of bread, they are not succeeding yet because of what we see . they found the main oppositionist of the country, because according to all the ratings, this is so and, uh, they launched all these criminal cases. but what we see in this month and a half. uh, if you take an analysis of public opinion, if you look at the measurements that the effect is taking place, they got the opposite, that is, the support of the population is even more in our aside and in my direction and in the direction of uh, the party of specialists that i led and represents and so on, so what will happen next. well, i realize that for the next few months this will all continue. all the same, they are trying to get them transferred from house arrest to,
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uh, a penitentiary, that is, to prison, while they have no arguments. i will withstand all this pressure, and my family will also withstand it, and the current government, which created this precedent, must understand that those who start fighting opponents like this ends just like that and there are a lot of examples of such and neighboring countries, namely the post-soviet space, and so on, but i will withstand this blow and will fight to make happiness. well, how will the investigation end? that is, the investigation has some evidence of everything that they accuse you of. if they had evidence, they would have gone further to court long ago, and so on. people prove there is no, and they know it, and there are some. uh, such accusations as betrayal of the motherland due to the fact that there i stand for good relations with the russian federation and even therefore went to find something concrete. they find nothing but but in order to make the show buzz to show on all
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their televisions. of course , they are doing this now, that is, they were seeking just such a political noise around your body, they need it to block it. uh, those problems that exist in society. well, this does not help them anymore, because at a certain stage they. eh, it helped a lot. it must be said the situation in ukraine because they've been here for the last 3 months, starting from march. only for this one was referred to. and this is already, uh, there is no agenda as a priority issue for citizens in public opinion, so it's gone and they've launched a second topic. this is pressure on uh, the former president and his family. well, this is also already passing and they have nothing to criticize, and they understand this, igor mikhailovich, you are now the consequences of you being monitored. you have some kind of bracelet, how does your house arrest go? i do more sports. consider more books i give you interviews by communicating more with my family. here the son arrived students first-year students at kazan federal university
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study astrophysics more time with their families. of course, not just not just ah, but as i said, we will survive it all, well, an attempt to follow there, you probably saw such things. and he is crammed with different things, i listen to things in myself. i think we have now listening. well here it is again so wild and so uh of them, well it's funny to do such things funny. well, i'm looking at it all the way through . through this, it's really amazing that you don't communicate with the press prohibited by law. it is not prohibited. yes, because it was a precedent. uh, when the european court of human rights and in the case of moldova in the case of other countries decided that it is illegal, even if a person is under arrest, but preventive arrest, that is, there is no final court decision that he is guilty there and so on cannot be prohibited
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him to communicate with representatives of the press, therefore, of course, they would very much like to forbid us to communicate with you, the current president has already publicly said several times how this is possible, and so on, but they also pretend to be europeans. they believe that they are here for some values and so on, but they want to act tough. contrary to the decisions of the european, uh, authorities and so on, therefore, they haven’t banned it yet, maybe after our interview they will, we’ll see. well, he won't be seen here anyway due to the ban on russian news programs. they are already writing and listening. uh-huh igor nikolaevich is really very serious pressure on your whole family on you personally. when do you think everything will be resolved? we will survive 100%. i will survive. my family will survive. and as i said, we will emerge victorious from this situation. how long will it last for several
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months, six months, or a year. let's see, but the whole period, which will be further. uh, they will lose more and more popular support. and everyone already understood this, and they themselves understood, so this agony did not call it otherwise. this is the political persecution of me and my family. this is fire from the government. i'm looking at it. i'll try to be above it. i understand that they got into their own trap. i understand that they wanted to hurt themselves. therefore, you need to be wiser, of course, you need patience, here you need to test your character and come out of this situation as winners. i will enter and we will emerge victorious and we are my team and country. i think that it will endure and everything will be fine for moldova and our relations will be third-party and that's
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it. we will have a victory on several articles at once, and the truth is, some of them are with very strange wording, passive corruption. there is even treason. so what interestingly, my sandu found out about these accusations of yours, when searches were already being carried out in the house from the press. how true is this at all ? and why do you think this is happening right now? well, that's a good question too. uh, learn from the press in conditions when you control all the structures in the country and these searches were attended by representatives of the sip defense security information service, which reports directly to the president, that is, not to the prosecutor general's office, or parliament or directly. no, well, on your birthday everything it was launched as a fiftieth birthday present. well , uh, well, it wasn't. it's so funny, so sad. what kind of politicians? what kind of people who are in charge of the state, they should
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now deal with the affairs of the state, they play all these uh, shows that they play. well, this shows once again their uh, the essence of their political immaturity. i'm being president. i would never allow myself such a thing. even if there were any doubts, well, invite you to a person in the prosecutor's office to present some orders. run process, not what they do. now. well, once again i'm very interested. and how is it for one beaten two unbeaten gives so. i have already navigated so much and there was so much pressure, if, taking into account what the current authorities are doing, there used to be a reason for this. i go stronger and more prepared. i am sure this is not a very simple situation, and in the country, too, after your arrest , socialists and your supporters do not stop rallies demanding the resignation of the presidential government. what is the future of the ruling party now you know, we have a very interesting situation in moldova again. uh, this is the first time the party
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has received. uh, the parliamentary majority controls both the government and the parliament and the president during. eh, the first months of his reign began to lose rating began to lose rapidly. now all the polls show that if there were early parliamentary elections, the opposition would be the socialist party. hey, my team. she would have won, and they understand that the question is how to convert. this is this situation and the discontent of the people. are you a specific political results. this is a serious choice, the people will continue to protest well, because some party, or some leaders organize them, the situation is very difficult and it will worsen due to the political incompetence of this government due to the fact that they are trying to play geopolitics on side of the west against russia and in this region. we see what happens the situation will worsen. eh, do they have a chance to hold on? i think the chances are very small. we
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see that in many uh countries, even the european union, the prime minister is thrown out of office, uh, and in england and vitaly, just the other day before that in bulgaria i think that this will all continue. and moldova is no exception in this case. i think that the situation will be more complex will be the government crisis. and i think that the likelihood that we will reach there urgent parliamentary presidential relations should be at the same time as elections. i think that this is a real prospect in the country, inflation is already above thirty percent, agriculture, fruits, rot on trees, agricultural machinery is not refueled. gas prices have risen six times. how do you assess the standard of living in the country and what is the economic future of moldova, the situation is very very difficult in such a situation there has not been enu since the nineties, inflation in moldova is 32%, for comparison, in the same ukraine where we see, uh, something is happening inflation is lower. moldova leader
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in terms of inflation and among the countries of the cis and the european union , prices have increased for everything and why is this happening and what to do? over the past 7-8 months , i have conveyed several hundred proposals to the current authorities that we live in this country. for us. for me too very important and my family for everyone and we proposed, what needs to be done one two three, four five, but the current government. uh, did nothing, the situation will worsen further plus an unprecedented drought. moldova did not have such a thing for a long time to sell. uh, even the same scarce product that is going nowhere. hmm uh, getting to the russian market is very difficult. now, against the backdrop of all this, what the moldovan authorities are doing declares that they are ready to join some other sanctions . i think this year's recession
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will be a very big economy is impoverished citizens. because against the backdrop of rising prices, of course, these rulers in this government do not have money to increase pension salaries. uh, it gets worse people get poorer and definitely. i think that the most difficult period will be autumn and winter. ah. you said tariffs and gas tariffs here. i will give some examples of simple simple numbers from a year ago. uh, a year ago this is still under our power. uh, well, for a few months, moldova had tariff gas, well, the moldovan currency. it 's four-something years old. now it's literally yesterday approved, 22 lily, that is, four and 22 is already 5.5 times, but this tariff is also small, taking into account the purchase prices, because if last year at the beginning of last year, we bought gas, just
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120-130 140 dollars for 1,000 cubic meters. the price for august is now 1.460, that is, one and a half thousand dollars and the statement of the country's leadership, the current leadership of maysand, that mmm they will not try to negotiate with russia so as not to cede part of the country. but it's well, more uh, it sounds like in accusation towards russia, i was doing this question for many years. i was the chairman of the intergovernmental committee of the commission when i was the first vice-premier of the government, then i was very president, russia will never have such political conditions, moreover, i recalled how they were the other day. joyfully, uh, when they signed this contract with gazprom last fall, they said something better, and they, my sandu and the speakers, and for example, said that there were no political conditions. there now they declare that some political conditions. why do it? you can just sit down
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with russia, the same serbia-hungary receives gas for 350 to 400 dollars per 1,000 cubic meters and a half thousand already in august. and we understand that autumn will be even more difficult, so, to summarize, the answer to your question to stay will worsen against the backdrop of all this, that is, the problem is in the economy in the energy sector , agriculture in the social sector against the backdrop of everything else a huge budget deficit deficit for moldova uh, a billion euros. eh, given our indicators. this is a lot and resources. there is no inside the country, huh? abroad, the west, which promised this help, did not we see that the authorities themselves admit that they have not received anything or very little from what they promised so far, they have entered into this anti-russian rhetoric and entered into this great geopolitical struggle. and so he tries to be
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good so that they are somehow patted on the back. eh, our western ones. uh, the so-called partners and european. the union is here, the united states therefore. eh, even if my sandu would like to go to russia now to agree on gas, and they just simply won’t give her that she doesn’t want it, that’s understandable. she has already declared to make accusations, but they will not give the west won't let it, because, uh, i think it's important and interesting for the west that moldova has a united front here. geopolitical which, unfortunately , we now see all over the world, while instead of helping the country's economy, the same farmer loans the eu allocates money for armaments 40 million euros will double the military budget of moldova against whom the current moldovan army is going to arm against. well, uh, the current president has already made a statement. what if suddenly russia attacks. you
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need to have something to defend yourself, but uh, i really want to say bad words, but very short-sighted and not public e page statements. well, firstly, russia has always recognized the independence and territorial integrity of the republic of moldova , even taking into account the transnistrian problem, it has always said that now it could and never had a different opinion . and why buy weapons now, when the university is liquidated? so they made a decision now to liquidate the agrarian ten, when i graduated from moldova, which was called the sarbon of moldova, that is, a separate strongest university due to the fact that there is not enough budget money against the backdrop of not repairing roads and helping agriculture , and so on. against this background, invest 40 million euros in the purchase of weapons that will not help in any way. i need you more now in the country. why do we need weapons now? because if you buy at some stage, the weapon must
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shoot somewhere, it is clear that western weapons in moldova will be designed not to shoot in the west, but in the east. it is clear, against whom? why do all this? i think uh the president should care more about how a neutral side was not involved in these conflicts than to prepare the country for war. it 's very, very, very. dangerous. moreover, i'll tell you, i'm sure. what, even if maia sandu calls? the people are brothers of guns no one will fight in may sandu because of uncle sam in moldova. i am one hundred percent sure of this. well, maybe there are a couple of dozen a couple of hundred, not to the deputies or and so on, but i won’t fight either, the moldovans won’t take up arms, go to fight against russia because of interest of my sandu or because of the interests of some western curators there. this will not happen in moldova. and this shows the opinion of the people and so
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on. by the way, i looked at public opinion and the same thing about romania in romania. they do not want to fight for someone, so spend money on weapons. now, even more so in this situation, when the people are poor when the economy is in decline, but this is a very big mistake with the rest of the current government. igor nikolaevich, you recently stated that moldova is already being supplied with american weapons. where does this can you provide more information? and what kind of attempts to pump weapons into the country? well , we talked about this before, because the first plane of the united states armed forces arrived in moldova, if i'm not mistaken , last fall. we raised the issue in parliament, demanded that the government come, i reported to us, they told us that from the secret information it is clear that on these military planes from the united states , moldova or mcdonald's delivered radishes, especially if this is classified as secret, after that there were
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several more planes with e-cargoes that landed in moldova. this is the pumping of weapons. uh, i think it's no coincidence that once again it happened before the start of the operation in ukraine, it was last fall. and this is happening according to some reports, according to some information now, because through moldova hmm, almost daily, weekly. ah. transit some goes transit some cargo for the armed forces of ukraine is also dangerous. i have spoken about this many times publicly and warned my sandu and others we are neutral states. we shouldn't be involved in this. this is not our war. this is not our fight. we must not take either side. we say again, we are the neutral side, and we know how it ended. uh, when there are other small countries like that, how we tried to
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play these big geopolitical hmm games. here i remember about the same saakashvili, on which he also covered himself with some kind of reforms. in georgia, he also pumped up the country. we know how it ended, where now saakashvili and where all his team is there, the so -called reformers, there is no one, or a guest to some countries. the same westerners took in some ngos even then, or someone is in prison, and so on, the current government and their entire team will end up with the same. and i always told them i told them, guys. if you can't cope, let us help you, yes, you received the majority of the support, the population, the population believed you. you're not doing well. let's help. let's get out somehow, because young, as if recently putin correctly said the party many motherland is one, but our party is not right. and we are leftists, there are others, but we need to somehow think about the country, what we are doing with this country further. you understand that they think they will take their backpacks and fly away there
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who is in the imf to the world bank, then washington, who is in brussels and so on and nothing keeps them here, but i have a family here. i have three young sons. well, one is studying in russia, by the way, in kazan hmm uh. i want to live here, so now, unfortunately, there is no one to talk to this power about them should have understood that we all need to unite and somehow go very carefully along the edge in this situation, so as not to destabilize the situation, the module in pursuit of this european dream of the official chisinau stops and has almost stopped all contacts along the line. the cis is reporting about this today, as if the speaker of parliament is happy about another political victory, and it seems that official chisinau is in a hurry to join the anti- rhotic sanctions. although the status of eu candidates does not require this, the moldovan authorities, as if wants to listen to the curator what the party in power is doing. here it is one-sided. european integration pro western politics is the ideology of their
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parties, although the elections. they promised something else, as usual. they promised to be friends with russia, they had videos in russian. they were leaflets in russian. now they have forgotten it all. they accept different, where russian laws. russian media have been banned, so our channel is banned in the republic of moldova and this interview will not be shown here on official channels. look on the internet hmm they banned. even some sacred symbols for us, like the st. george ribbon. i'm suing them now because they did it young. nobody asked them about it. and now they have started massively, that we are going to european europe, integration and so on. hmm and everyone understands that we will not be members of the european union. we see that it is very simple in europe. and i, as an economist, i understand that economic difficulties in europe, unfortunately, and for us, unfortunately, and for russia, unfortunately, not only come. we we see that the euro has already fallen below the dollar. we see that the economy of the leading countries of the european union
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that were the locomotives of the european economy such as germany for example, yes, uh, there is already a decline in the industry. moreover, it will continue to be serious, therefore, against the background of this, call the moldovan people somewhere. where we see that we can, the prospects make no sense and the people of moldova understand this, moreover, we understand that the moldovan authorities are trying to impose all this on us along with an anti-russian tough policy. moldova can survive as a country only if it has good relations with everyone and with russia in the first place, i will explain why. what is european integration? so let's imagine that after all, here we get something there. come on, it will definitely be without transnistria, but it will not work. it will definitely be without the south, gaudi said that
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they would not agree to this. there are others. we will have complete chaos and destabilization of the entire country. we will lose part of our territories and moldova will not. how to save moldova moldova to save, you can unite the country, for this you need to have good relations with russia in order to create a normal state, in order to solve the transnistrian problem, the young can survive a little economically and socially if we have cheap resources. if we have gas for one and a half , two or three thousand euros, uh, gas is 1,000 cubic meters, then we simply have no chance of surviving in moldova, no one will invest here. why do all this , agriculture will be in decline, when fuel and lubricants and fertilizers have increased 4-5 times this year, therefore, ah. i am sure that we, as a country , can live, if we maintain our neutral status, we will return to the strategic dialogue
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how did the nazification of ukraine go? why, after 80 years, the poisonous flower of nazism blossomed in this country one of the reasons? why this happened is a different level of education rewrote the history of world war ii etched out the russian language, i don't want to speak ukrainian. why are you forcing me? i studied at a russian school in mariupol why do they send me to a russian school? they say that you taught everything poorly, taught ukrainian is ukraine, we do not know, but the fact that it is necessary is not subject to any doubt.
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as for the anti-russian policy, when everything russian is prohibited, when the broadcast of russian films of analytical programs is stopped news, how do the russian-speaking population feel here in the country now moldova one-third of the population is russian-speaking, that is, it is not russian, and ukrainians. by the way, by nationality, the first moldovans and the second ukrainians and russians and ukrainians and bulgarians and gagauz. and here we have 35 percent of the population, that is, a third of the population of moldova is russian-speaking, of course, in this situation it is very difficult. although you won’t see anyone at the everyday level, here are some anti-russian things. that is, if you speak russian, then i even have a younger son he is 7 years old, he
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speaks russian is free. although he did not teach first grade, he only graduated this year. that is, at the household level, there are no problems with communication in russian , no one understands everywhere. well , there may be a single case when someone responds aggressively, but there are no problems, and at the state level there are problems of state policy, because the current president was still when she was minister of education in the fourteenth year. she uh led the changes and excluded the russian language from compulsory education. uh, the school curriculum is considered a mistake and the russian-language school began to close and they began to close the russian-language school to close the russian-speaking groups in universities and so on and so on and so on. i think this is a mistake. well it's good to know english french well. the russian language for us is a plus for the moldovans, that's why i spoke. i spoke and i will insist, and in the future it is necessary to return the status of the
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russian language. yes, you need to know the state moldavian without fail, but knowledge russian language for us plus at the same time, moldova is increasingly under the influence of romania's foreign parliaments of the two countries sit together 40% of the territory of moldova can now be controlled by foreign officers frontax sandu is a romanian citizen, which indicates a political merger. i think these are the general sessions of the parliament. it was a trial balloon to see. what will be the mood and reaction of the population. i think it is accidentally lost sovereignty. imagine if e beingness my president, we would hold his general meeting of the parliament in moldova and russia. how much criticism would there be? the rest of the west so i don't think it's all a coincidence. i think this is a far-sighted plan on the part of some forces. and in
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moldova and in romania, the absorption of moldova is very, very dangerous. this will lead to civil war. this will lead to the fact that molodova will disappear, as a state and many regions. they just don't want to deal with it. you mentioned citizenship. this is also a problem. uh problem when the country's top officials have citizenship on the other hand. here i have no other citizenship than moldovan, and many leaders and the president and the prime minister and speakers do not have citizenship of other countries, in particular romania romania over the past two decades encouraged and gave romanian citizenship to everyone from mods and for various according to estimates, about a third of the population, if not more, has romanian citizenship. not because they wanted to be runes, because on the basis of this
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passport it was possible to travel and now work without problems in the countries of the european union in order to solve some economic social problem, therefore, for ordinary citizens. i see no problem getting different citizenships. let him get romanian russian. so many people now receive russian citizenship, but i don’t see it. there are no problems here. for e top officials , i think that this is a problem for those who are engaged in public service and must in their work. in its activities, adhere only to the interests of our country receiving another citizenship. this is problem. these are risks for the country, because when you go and hmm, you get shumen citizenship. you uh swear that you will observe the interests of this state if you are the head of the country of the president or prime minister or even a judge of the constitutional court, and you probably swore from another state. how can you
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perform official duties in the interests of the people in your country. there is a problem here. unfortunately , this problem has not been solved, it needs to be changed in the constitution, for this you need either through referendum, or have a constitutional majority of the guys, but this problem will need to be solved by those systemic steps. which is being done in recent years, they are very dangerous and they are far-reaching, well, in the current realities. what are the prospects for resolving the transnistrian issue in general, given that all formats are frozen, my opinion is that there is no chance with the current government, that is, there will be no negotiations. i don’t believe that, taking into account the position of the current authorities, that is, the anti-russian positions there, because it’s already may 9, so i’m sure that victory the inhabitants of transnistria will not want to be in a common state, er, with such people with such power. uh, although it must be admitted that in the current realities that are here in this region, given the
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situation in ukraine, it is not easy. i don't rule it out. i believe that the prerequisites for the association. now it is even more than a year ago, because i am sure that the future is also for transnistria or chisinau, or are you really superfluous? it's only together there are no other options, and the sooner this happens, the better, and we will be stronger as a single state, but this is only possible with a change moldovan authorities because with this government e purely, nationalist-minded, and on merging with romania we see that they are open, someone from the leadership speaks of anti-russian sanctions and so on. well, it's unrealistic not a fan will not work. well, given the recent events in transnistria, a whole series of terrorist attacks have traces that lead to the special services of moldova, by order of the special services, there were some provocations there on the territory of transnistria, while official chisinau is in no hurry to even join the investigation and no
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contact between authorities. how do you assess the overall political dialogue in the region now between transnistria and moldova. well now almost political dialogue. no, although economic issues are being resolved, we are buying electricity, a very cheap heap of ghana, these are world power supplies. well, again in numbers, we buy at a price of 59 dollars per megawatt in europe in germany now 380. that is, we buy at 60, and there 380, that is, we buy six times cheaper electricity now from pridnestrovie that is, when it is profitable for us, i have in mind, under the current government, then no problem, and we don’t have any remorse to solve economic problems there, but when it comes to conceptual strategic things, they solve these issues. they want what concerns all these provocations. eh, well, we understand that
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