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ukraine before it turned out to be at the current point. that's what we are interested in, we hope that it is interesting for you, and that's what we'll talk about today. new phase of church confrontation schismatics seriously claim laurel in kiev fate of ukrainian church expert opinion of union program fatal word for orthodoxy history of the issue complex processes are unfolding. on at a recent council of the ukrainian orthodox church, to the name of which the moscow patriarchate is often added, it was once again declared its independence and independence from moscow and its readiness to overcome the schism, but on the condition that the
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schismatic orthodox church of ukraine refused its claims to its own canonicity, the council expressed disagreement with the position of the patriarch of moscow and all russia kirill regarding the special operation in ukraine and called on the parties to the conflict to resolve it through diplomatic means. to the call to overcome schism, the non-canonical dog answered almost boorishly figuratively, calling the decision of the moscow patriarchate cathedral an insignificant synod, the kiss called on the uoc ukrainian orthodox church to break all ties with moscow and join their church at the same time, the schismatics declared their claims to the main shrine of russian orthodoxy kiev - pechersk lavra. the oldest monastery rusi ptsu decided to found a monastery. holy dormition kiev-pechersk lavra and instructed its head, metropolitan epiphanius,
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to apply to the government with a request to transfer to the use of one of the temples of the upper lavra and several rooms to take into their own hands, at least part of his pechersk lavra. a long-standing goal of the dissenters since the nineties of the last century. meanwhile, the pressure on the church in the moscow patriarchate is growing. events are becoming more and more dramatic along with the attack on its churches , beating parishioners and priests, local authorities in different regions of the country are taking unconstitutional and illegal decisions to ban or stop the activities of the canonical church since the spring of this of the year. more than 40 such cases are already known, mainly in the western and central regions, however, the uoc remains the main religious community in the country. it includes more than 12,000 parishes and organizations, with a little more than seven. a look at the
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historical roots of the church schism and its underlying causes in the plot of anna efimova on may 27, 2022, the orthodox world in ukraine experienced another blow on that very day, the meeting of both the pescopath and the laity, then the council, the uoc actually decided on autocephaly. before the beginning meeting, the primate of the ukrainian orthodox church, metropolitan, addressed the participants. anufry , we will defend our rights by legal methods . the problems of previous years, as well as the new challenges that have now arisen due to hostilities on the territory of ukraine, prompted us to gather in this holy monastery to discuss them and express our attitude. and the decision of the council has no legal force, however, the resonance from this topic does not become less so the cathedral, doubted that it was patriarch kirill who was the true head church, and all because of the words of the primate about the fighting
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in ukraine for 8 years. there are attempts. destroy what exists in the donbass there is rejection? fundamental rejection of the so -called values that are offered today. those who claim world power in the feofany of the holy panteleimon convent, where the meeting of the bishops of the clergy, monastics and laity of the ukrainian orthodox church, adopted changes to the charter, suggesting complete independence. upc , all items were removed from the document, and links the ukrainian orthodox church and the russian orthodox church also discussed the nuance of the world, which is essentially purely technical, but at the same time very important for the orthodox hierarchy. after all
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, only autocephalous churches can brew mira on their own, specially prepared illuminated aromatic oil. but most importantly, despite the fact that the uoc, in fact, renounced its head from patriarch kirill. at the same time, she did not appoint the ukrainian orthodox church now, the status formed or resulting from the local council is even lower than that of the orthodox church. e of ukraine which was created in the nineteenth year. e. not thomas as an ecumenical patriarch, e., in bartholomew, those at least have at least some kind of silly letter that gives the prospect of recognition of this autocephaly by other orthodox churches of the world, e . years that followed the creation of the orthodox church of ukraine, a structure more political than
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religious, uniting the schismatic orthodox church of the kiev patriarchate and ukrainian autocephalous church. the canonical parishes of the moscow patriarchate began to be exposed. to ban all the big attacks, the uoc for the local authorities became the number one goal and the priests consistently went to it. kisses, right-wing radicals, as the strike force attacked the religious processions, smashed the temples, beat the parishioners and threatened the priests. well, over the past 3 months, supporters of the dog with the support or tacit consent of officials. about 250 churches of the canonical orthodox church of ukraine were seized. however, despite this, at the council held on may 27, in fact, a step was taken towards reconciliation with the dog, for example, it was decided to no longer indicate the abbreviated name of the once hostile structure and the titles of its leaders, and the bird, in turn, was asked to stop raider attacks on
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parishes and restore the church hierarchy daba to ensure the proper appointment of bishops of the ukrainian orthodox church. collaborationism did not lead well. here we were told. e that these decisions of the meeting on may 27 are necessary in order to reduce the pressure on the persecution of c. nothing nothing of the sort has gone down. uh, after this meeting twenty regions. e ukraine upts law, be that as it may, whether the decision of the council was a manifestation of a civil position or an attempt to secure parishes and pastures within the ukrainian orthodox church. not everyone supported him . for example, the donetsk and crimean archdioceses, in particular, metropolitan mitrofan of horlovsky and slavic, who participated in the local council, spoke . and if we express no confidence? shouted i said that if i vote for when they gave me word, it will be a betrayal both in relation to
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our clergy and in relation to believers . i won't be able to look them in the eye and then come and say that we don't remember the patriarch now. however, just the other day in st. sophia of kiev, following an unofficial meeting of the priests of option with representatives of the dog, a letter was signed calling for the creation of a church tribunal over the patriarch of moscow and all russia , kiril. it is curious that the state service of ukraine for ethnopolitics and freedom of conscience initiated this event. headed by the notorious elena bogdan, the protege of the architect of the color revolutions george soros, a systematic, purposeful century began, passed down as a political relay race and the destruction of orthodoxy there. and now, how unsurprisingly huge, uh, uh, a piece of this orthodoxy of ukraine is being torn away. strictly speaking, from the orthodox world. this is a struggle within
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christianity. e for leadership. i repeat with a very hard political context. you can even say like this. this is brzezinski only with a cross church maidan and the schism, orthodoxy of this idea is a fix, which in ukraine the catholic church began to implement back in the 16th century after the union of brest, the creation of the greek catholic church, today's church realities, when three orthodox churches exist in parallel in parallel, clearly demonstrate this mission centuries later in many ways it turned out that the construction of the main cathedral of the ukrainian greek catholic church of the cathedral of the resurrection of christ in kiev on the left bank was another confirmation dnipro, this unian church became the highest in the ukrainian capital anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine we will talk with
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our permanent expert rostislav about what threatens today the new phase of the ukrainian schism of the schism of ukrainian orthodoxy. ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon, if you look at the long history of attempts to split ukrainian orthodoxy, can we say that a result has finally been achieved today? well, first of all, uh, if we talk about trying to split, we must talk the schism of russian orthodoxy, because even the re-creation of the kiev metropolitanate in its time. by the way, at one time it was subordinate to the patriarchate of constantinople, but it was already aimed at splitting the united orthodox array. so uh. this has long-standing roots, and we are talking about the split of russian orthodoxy further. if we turn to today, we will not see that the same ukrainian state has not yet seceded. that is , the soviet union has not yet collapsed. bishop of the kiev exarchate of the ukrainian exarchate russian orthodox church there was no ukrainian church yet, there
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was a russian orthodox church ukrainian exarchate. they are already writing a petition to the holy synod, but that's what they get. they receive autonomy, this is a car, in fact, autocephaly, because they are absolutely not controlled by the russian orthodox church. not only are they not self-governing independent, to be emphasized in practice, well, moreover, they are in the governing structures of the russian orthodox church; the russian orthodox church does not have its representative in the senod ukrainian orthodox church, but spiritual communion is preserved. yes, spiritual communion is preserved, but again, it is preserved by the efforts of the roc, which tries not to notice many arts, the ukrainian orthodox church was forced to rely, probably the roc in the fight against ukrainian nationalists, not because it did not love them. because they did not like her schismatics. in this sense, they achieved their result of what they
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wanted. no, they wanted to become the one and only ukrainian orthodox church. that they all the time emphasized that the patient had the only canonical church, but proclaiming autocephaly without authorization. they, in the first place, uh, violated the canons of the church, and they became exactly the same self-proclaimed. secondly, they lost the support of a significant part of their most devoted parishioners, because both monasteries and parishes. many in ukraine are now turning to the patriarch with a request to take him under his omophorion. directly. e, crimean e is not only crimean - these are entire dioceses, and there are monasteries in kiev. there are parishes that continue to be patriarchs, they are expelled from the church, and churches take them away. they serve in garages. they serve in apartments there, well, actually go into the catacombs. but they do remain faithful to the russian orthodox church. as far as if i understand correctly the position of, uh, patriarch
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kirill and the russian orthodox church, then they nevertheless reacted with understanding to the latest actions of the ukrainian orthodox church, which confirmed its independence, which, in fact, it had thanks to the fact that alexy ii was in this i mean, if i understand correctly, its authority is still not so completely undermined by the e ukrainian orthodox church. they're holding some more punch. what do you think that the russian orthodox church was forced to state that in its proclamation? yes, there is no word autocephaly, but de facts are proclaimed there in such. uh, the upc went much further than thomas was given out by alexius the second under duress, in fact there was very powerful political pressure, and powerful political pressure is always christianity was born under powerful political pressure. i just wanted to say that yes here are these people you are not a blessing. not economic communication with the roc, they are, most likely, indeed, well, the self-appointed hierarchy of the oc nevertheless retains spiritual
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communication in this sense. i just want to understand, this is how the schismatics will continue to act, who are still trying to split the uoc, pulling out some parishes in the pcl. how is it possible to maintain spiritual communion if they have stopped commemorating the patriarch as their father, and even the master has changed. here are just a few others. this is already a split within the uoc, in fact, by their actions they did not split, including the ukrainian orthodox church. that is, is it possible to consider that the kiss achieved its goal and split it all the same, the fact is that they, in principle, cannot achieve their goal, because there are two big political forces, one political force is russia and we see that in the territories that are occupied by russian troops and only the population will very quickly reorient itself to russia well, the church hierarchies will also reorient themselves to russia all the dioceses that are there in the donbass yes
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, that is, in kherson there, zaporizhzhia, which are occupied by the russian union due to special circumstances. you may have other views. that is, it is generally absurd from the point of view of church dogma. the whole church adheres to the same views. and some dioceses hold different views, but nevertheless they made this decision, and this just shows that as russia advances, the uoc is losing control over these territories. they de facto go under pc controller, on the other hand, there is the pressure of poland and the pressure of the collective west and for them to flock. this is only a transitional step, the very concept of the ukrainian orthodox church. begins to gradually disappear those that go back. they go to the uni and to catholicism. this means that those who e continue to maintain fidelity to the orthodox canon, they are gradually leaving for and normal is being restored in ukraine. uh, the ecclesiastical
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authority of the russian orthodox church, then i'll ask a broad question. what are the prospects for orthodoxy on the territory of ukraine, the good thing is that, again, with the exception of a few unian regions of western ukraine, all other regions of ukraine as a whole are orthodox, as they believe, and as they return to the political orbit of the russian federation, they return to the orbit of the russian orthodox church. and i hope that they will not restore the ukrainian exarchate, as it used to be some self-governing structures, which one way or another start a union from the latin in his political vocabulary, this term denotes the union of a community of two or more states under the rule of one monk in history. which today have become central and western ukraine, the union of lublin in 1.569 played a
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decisive role, so the treaties in one state are speech. the commonwealth was united by poland and the grand duchy of lithuania, which included the lands of present-day ukraine ; poland in the 17th century, established control over a vast part of ukraine immediately upon the conclusion of the political union, the polish king segesmund ii augustus said that now it was time to think about restoring religious unity and transferring his new orthodox subjects under the jurisdiction of catholic rome. church union concluded in brest in 1596 it was precisely designed to help poland digest the lithuanian and russian population of the
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new lands, and to polish and catholicize them. by and large, the magician was to replace the religious and cultural self-identification of new inhabitants of the commonwealth and, above all, to separate them from orthodoxy. rome considered the union of brest to be the first step in catalysing the eastern polish families, which means it was sure that with the help of the uniates they would integrate the lands of the principality of lithuania into speech, the commonwealth. but the orthodox hierarchies that accepted the union raised their status to the level of catholic priests. as a result, in the 17-18 centuries, the oppressed, who are also called sin catholics, became quite numerous denominations that spread in belarus, part of lithuania, ukraine, poland, and even russia about the history of the greek catholic church of ukraine in the plot of olga mokhova russian
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faith captive, but not broken so vividly, described by gogol in the story of the same name taras bulba in the minutes of execution expresses what in fact was the driving force of the peasant and kazan uprisings in the commonwealth of the first half xvii century. it is enough to look at the agreements that the cossacks concluded with the poles. well, as some kind of intermediate. yes, they put forward all sorts of stages of their struggle. uh, the demands of religious freedom demands the restoration of the orthodox kyiv metropolis. the return to her of the seized temples. although this property, starting from the 11th century, the moment of the official split between rome and constantinople and the division of christianity into two branches, attempts to draw orthodox russia into
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catholic did not stop. the first such serious event took place in the 12th century, when the western russian prince daniil of galicia, the founder of lvov, dreaming of a coalition against the mongol horde , turned to rome for military assistance, indeed he was offered the crown. ah, it was about coming under the spiritual authority of rome and uh, ultimately uh, v basically, nothing really came of it. rim uh, in fact, still couldn’t do it. uh, to provide this military assistance to daniel. yes, it means, respectively, that daniel very quickly forgot about catholicism, when in the 16th century, the southwestern russian lands became part of the speech of the village. so the orthodox church here began to be treated like a stepdaughter, and to the orthodox population, as in a gibberish partly this spiritual crisis, but in many ways the corruption of individual bishops led to the fact that even a year before the signing
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the union of brest, representatives of the kiev metropolis of the episcopalian of ostrov kirill-terletsky and the bishop of vladimir berestey pati-patia, swore allegiance to the pope, recognizing the catholic faith in everything, very few accepted it voluntarily smarter. planted by the authorities of the commonwealth e. sometimes just by force. here, including this concerned, for example , monasteries, because it practically did not go away. she followed the bishops and from the monasteries. just expelled. e their rapists and violence. no, many. then they were simply even subjected to e, the victims were physically abused. centuries and the simple fierce, gentry, clergy, understood that this was only a transitional stage on the path to humanity, rome condescendingly allowed the uniates to preserve the eastern church rite. hence the name greek catholics, but more often they were called humiliating schismatics, that is, having separated from the church, in addition to the independence of the kiev metropolis,
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despite the expectation of the bishops, it did not turn out the 18th century, the unian church. more and more strove to get closer to the catholic this was expressed in the outward appearance of the priest. this was expressed in shaving turnover. this e was also expressed in a number of other traditions. so there is no need to even talk about the purity of the liturgical life , they left their native shore, but never landed on another. and this, of course, had a monstrous effect on mentality and consciousness after the partition of the commonwealth at the end of the 18th century. the fate of the representatives of the unian church developed differently on those lands that were under the control of the russian empire, they were gradually appeased returned to orthodoxy, and by 1875 in the western provinces of the empire, the union was completely abolished in austria-hungary, where the vast majority of the muniats were rusyns, the same minority remained . uniates were tolerant, they
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occupied a certain niche. yes, but at the same time, this is such a despised religion, the lower strata of the uniate clergy. yes it is. here, too , she occupied an intermediate position, because it seems, like, too, like, like close to catholicism. yes, but on the other hand, like this, some are still not the same the unian church was strengthened and even received the official name of the ukrainian greek catholic only in the 20th century, when it was headed by the metropolitan of galicia, archbishop of lvov andrey shevkinsky for more than 40 years. come out of the polish aristocratic family. he was a non-political authority among the population of golitsy in 1943, with his blessing, capillaries from the unian church would be sent to the galician ss division, sometimes. uh , the uniate clergy, uh, just behaved, well, absolutely. i would say, not that unacceptable brutally famous episodes. here, for example, when priests are not good, it's not easy. eh, so
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to speak, were not just ideological chaplains. i would say that they served such detachments and headed them after the death of andrey sheptytsky, who, after the german occupation, tried to build relations with the soviet government. even wrote letters of welcome to stalin ukrainian greek catholics. it was headed by a disciple of the metropolitan. joseph blind. he did not accept soviet power, and she did everything to ensure that at the lvov cathedral in 1946. the greek catholic church, as a conductor of the anti-soviet policy of the vatican on the territory of ukraine, was liquidated, yet it was done in a very tough way. uh, and uh, so fast. i would say in shape. it was liquidated for me, but uh, on the other hand, these measures created, of course, some, orel church of the martyrs, which, of course, the catholics, and then exploited in every possible way while underground on the territory of ukraine, the uniate church retained large ones in america and western europe in the ussr runiats returned in 1990
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permission of mikhail gorbachev after his meeting with john paul ii, then the peaceful process of returning the churches seized from the church in the forty-sixth year olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is typical, ukraine this is all we wanted to tell. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. good luck to you.
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