uh, it still doesn’t, and the same politically motivated bias makes itself felt in relation to the donbass, just the same you mentioned that the objects from the unesco world heritage list on the territory of ukraine were not damaged during the russian special operation. this is indeed a well-known fact by all such objects on the territory of ukraine, but the ministry of defense of ukraine yes, in turn , did not provide guarantees to unesco that other cultural objects, religious buildings, historical buildings, etc. be used for military purposes, there are no such guarantees, the news agency reports. please tell me, is there any reaction of unesco to these statements on these facts? uh, in this case, uh, the role of unesco is that they, uh, have not received such guarantees and uh no statements. on this, uh, i have not heard, but that there are no such guarantees, uh. hmm is not surprising since uh we know. and we have a lot of evidence that sometimes

, uh, schools and even kindergartens are used for military purposes. e in order to provoke blows on them, and then accuse russia, er, of crimes. and this is such a very favorite tactic of ukrainian nationalists in particular. yes. eh, if we talk about the destruction of cultural and historical objects. uh, there are witnesses of deliberate arson by ukrainian militants in svyatogorsk. uh, the wooden skid of all the saints of the russian land was set on fire by a burst of her incendiary ammunition. uh, with a specific example, it is very vivid, and it was not mentioned at all recently. on this topic, we of course informed about it. uh, not only the secretariat, but also the widest circle, uh member states, because indeed the cases are egregious. and most importantly, uh, there is. uh, eyewitness testimony, what was it really

like? tell me, please, despite the pressure on russia on the ongoing anti-russian attacks, the permanent mission continues to participate in unesco meetings and literally did not give it away, as yesterday you were at the world heritage presidium. please tell the organizers and participants of this meeting whether it is possible to stay within the framework of the cultural agenda of the topic on objects of culture, or political background, nevertheless inevitably makes itself felt. uh, it must be admitted that recently the degree of politicization of unesco has simply gone off scale. ukraine and its western sponsors are actively using the site of this purely humanitarian forum. eh, in their geopolitical e anti-russian interests. and, of course, nothing but harm to the organization - it does not bring, and uh, in our opinion,

the wider public members understand this. in any case, attempts to isolate russia in unesco, uh, we still failed, there are many friends and partners here. e, especially since russia continues e, and even in the current difficult situation, to make a significant contribution to the program activities of unesco, for example, just the other day in early july, a high-level conference on the preservation of languages ​​was held in moscow. e indigenous. yes, almost 50 states took part in it. and some kind of isolation can be discussed, and about the same thing happens within the framework of the world committee heritage. uh, where russia is our chairmanship in this body. they were subjected, especially bare body attacks from the west e. you mentioned the recent meeting of the bureau of this committee. uh, which is significant there, just

a representative turned out to be in isolation. e, western countries, since the rest of the e bureau did not support his demands. please tell me, if we talk about our mediation in unesco, uh specifically, you, uh, felt some kind of pressure, some kind of attacks, so to speak. well definitely because uh medium ukraine, uh, daily distributes, uh, hysterical notes of messages, uh, with accusations against russia, well, and there is a small, but uh rather loudly circle uh of western countries. uh, who is the most radical and uh, uses every opportunity to uh, so to speak , spread his russophobic attitudes. uh, in general, uh, these countries have taken a course towards some kind of

ukrainization. uh, unesco in the sense that literally every area of ​​program activity. eh, they're trying to shove it in. uh, there, uh, the ukrainian theme but could you describe this circle well, we guess roughly, but i would like to hear from you exactly. here are especially ardent russophobes. yes, this is on the one hand, and on the other hand. eh, our position us. hey, who's backing? we mentioned the bureau. uh, there uh, one representative from each regional group. e , such countries as thailand, saudi arabia , argentina, uh, the republic of south africa, all of them, uh, are absolutely loyal to us.

thanks to. thank you so much. uh, we were contacted by alexander kuznetsov permanent representative russia at unesco we are moving to a wider range of international issues. now grigory karasin, chairman of the committee of the federation council on international affairs, is getting in touch with the fifth studio. hello grigory borisovich hello anton, good to hear from you so grigory borisovich uh let's start, here's how two large german companies that import russian gas received a force majeure letter from gazprom on a gas contract due to past and current interruptions in gas supplies this quote from reuters uh, what do you think the term force majeure means in this context and please tell me what it could mean for berlin uh, well, the gas issue. as you understand, the former e in the

west are of particular importance for our partners, since they themselves have made a mess and are taking one after the other, the so-called seventh package of sanctions has recently been adopted. although about the artistic. but it is, nevertheless, the seventh package. uh, the problem is self-created with the west . uh, we can only express condolences to the residents of germany finland other countries. uh, let them continue, they think, realistically assessing the policies of their governments, and how full their gas storage facilities are. sorry it's their own business. they have to calculate perspective. ah. since the initiative in all

costs and balances renders the topic descended exclusively from the european union and the united states er, we advise you to think ahead in this regard for the future. you need to think about yourself and about the overall situation in the energy sector. here in life the law of the boomerang always e works, and this should not be forgotten. here, just the same topic continues and about the law of the boomerang. including russia , including in connection with the situation with germany, they are already accusing in advance of the coming extremely cold winter, cold for europe in the most literal sense , so what do you think what more real politicians did real economic analysis in these statements, or is it still here more police. i think that this is a policy of emotional reaction to everything that happens, it is quite justified, but the initiative in all these affairs. it came from the western capitals and was

formed and calculated between us speaking long before february of this year. they wanted to achieve. how can you tell the humiliation and suffocation of the russian economy as a result, they have achieved a cold winter for themselves and their citizens. so this is exactly what needs to be said. here we are entirely for uh cooperation not only in the field of energy, but also in other areas, but god knows the other side does not want this, so the governments of western states should answer these questions here, moving on to the ukrainian subject, i will quote a few high-profile statements very high-profile. so ukraine will destroy the black sea fleet and recapture the crimea, this was stated in an interview with the times by the deputy minister of defense of ukraine vladimir gavrilov, this is just an arrest. again he threatened to strike at the crimea on the crimean bridge. well, the adviser to the head of zelensky's office is a well-known fykomet. of course, yes, and

he said that he would appear as soon as e. the first technical possibility, they say, will be struck. there is one more statement here. uh, representatives of the already ukrainian intelligence that uh american hummers are those the most of which are so many. they say it can be used to strike targets in the crimea e. please tell me how to take such statements. this is empty bravado. uh, some of these are just threats or something serious. well, the short answer is to take it calmly. here is more, extended responsibility for the next no crimea uh kiev uh, it’s time to calm down for a long time, this is part of the russian federation, it will remain so forever. by the way, if we recall recent history, then in minsk, when a complex is being developed measures, uh, which were signed signed by the

four leaders of states. so in the document of the minsk agreement. no, not even a mention. about crimea, just in case. i want to remind our exaggerated speaker. kiev and so the lord in kiev want to look menacing. this is the main goal from what they are pursuing. well, let them think again about this. the more she has nothing to say, the ukrainian authorities go into hysterics, and this is always a sign of weakness and self-doubt, therefore, my advice is to behave more calmly, dear friends. here we continue this theme. er, i'm quoting. uh, the news agency in the near future , ukraine may receive longer-range missiles for, again, yes, for american highmars installations, oleksiy danilov, secretary from the

nbo of ukraine, said this if this is so. well, after all, on the basis of something, he makes such statements, then, is there an aim here to strike at the territory of our country. how do you believe? well, here i can comment for a long time and i want to answer and once again i want to call on our kiev politicians, pseudo politicians, with a more calm , balanced statement, because they hurt, uh, the minds of their own citizens and the international community as far as russia is concerned. then we are taking the necessary measures in order to increase efficiency to counter aggressive intentions. we have an active ministry of defense and people who are thinking about how to resist them. perhaps e clashes of this kind. i will note in passing that the british, who recently declared. there mouth a certain gentleman, vykhino, in my opinion, that

a direct military conflict with russia is possible is nothing more than, as you can say, the build-up of a large-scale information war, the british in this sense are teachers of ukrainians, and in this area masters are known for the task of scaring not so many potential adversaries only their own violence and knock it out. uh, additional funding. at the same time, by the way, to give compliance and obedience to the fan's junior partners. well, and pupils in kiev, therefore, this is how it should be perceived. i propose to discuss grigory borisovich here's a renault news report with a link to its source. uh, they write that the grain negotiator managed to achieve serious progress, but this source. ren news, will not be able to clarify when the next meeting will take place in istanbul hmm because there are some technical issues. let me remind you that earlier in

istanbul there was a meeting of military delegations from turkey , russia, ukraine and a un delegation to settle the grain issue. how do you think it will be will it be settled and when how happens, what are the details? russia has repeatedly spoken through the lips, including foreign ministers lavrov and our other politicians, that we are interested in resolving this issue positively, so that there are no obstacles to e, grain exports from ukraine and to. business negotiations took place in istanbul. it is difficult to think ahead, but the main thing is to ensure that the ukrainian authorities do their best to free the black sea from mines, so as not to expose them. uh, so to speak, the dangers of the court, which will carry grain and other products. it

depends mainly on the ukrainian authorities. we are ready to contribute to this in connection with this statement by the secretary general, he is antoniotovich, who called for the return of the quote to the food market from russia and ukraine. we are at risk of starvation in many regions. this year and the final quote, there you have to act, together somewhat unexpected. it would seem rhetoric against the background of a general anti-russian trip. as you think or logically think, i think this is quite reasonable. well, such a sensible statement by the secretary general of the united nations. such statements should be welcomed. and one more piece of news was sent to russia in indonesia . lyudmila vorobyova said that at the g20 ministerial meeting in bali there was a whole line of heads of the delegation of the participating countries for negotiations with our foreign minister and sergey lavrov, how would you comment on such a desire to communicate with the head of our foreign agency. as far as i know, sergey viktorovich

is always always glad to meet with colleagues . contraindications. he never had. i'm convinced it won't, so i think the line will get longer over time. in your opinion, please tell me, on the one hand, there are numerous attempts, yes, to demonize russia both in the press and from high tribunes, and on the other hand. well, in particular, this is the queue for lavrov. after all, she says that e desire of intention or the need to cooperate with our country, she does not go anywhere. the fact is that the number of states that understand the correctness of our approaches increases by the number of those people who support without hesitation. uh. so the so-called collective west and ukraine itself is decreasing. we see this through e, contacts and through the parliamentary line. we see the results of various international

meetings of our minister. not only foreign ministers. the word process is on, process is on. i think that as a result we will see a completely different picture, uh, oh, which those who started the campaign to defame and close russia from the surrounding world. on the territory of borisovich please tell us how, in your opinion, maybe the issue of electricity with the transit of goods in the kaliningrad region will eventually be resolved. well, if i may say so, whether lithuania will understand its mistakes or brussels will not, but lithuania should already work on the mistakes. now there brussels, in my opinion, has shown relatively sanity. here, uh, realizing that the obligations that the european union, uh, has before. uh, including in front of us, they must be performed, so this is an inside job over the mistakes that need to be made by the two european union, i expect that it will be successful. uh,

continuing the international agenda, i wanted to ask you, in your opinion, what can be expected from, uh, vladimir putin's visit to iran. but there have always been good relations between countries. eh, how fruitful? how do you think it will meet? that this is a landmark event of the whole year iran is us. e hmm significant important partner. uh, in economics in politics in regional affairs. i expect it to be a success and more moreover, this success will move me from my place. e, misunderstandings and conscious slander, which e catches up with. uh, the collective west of both our countries. uh, especially since iran is also under sanctions. we have something to talk about, and we have something to say to the world around us in terms of a positive agenda for the entire international community. uh,

grigory borisovich, if we talk about sanctions, well, in particular in the energy sector in relation to russia. please tell me you already mentioned the boomerang effect. many experts they write that europe well, in general, the western world literally. i mean, he shoots himself in the foot. here is how you would comment on such statements. i think that's not the only part of the body where they go? where for which countries do you think sanctions in the energy sector are most sensitive? we mentioned germany in particular. but not only is it not now, it is already obvious that germany, finland and a number of other countries are worried about this. eh, but it's often hot there. excuse me, autumn is ahead. here when it will be necessary to attack the autumn cold with the transition to winter. this is where everything becomes real. but let's say, well, one thing is a statement from high

tribunes and the reaction of the government. yes, the west on the other hand. here, the common people. how does western countries react? how does it react to such sanctions? here, how would you comment, because there are, uh, a lot of videos, yes, and messages that no, the population is quite, naturally, concerned about no one wants to sit in a cold house. uh, dress up some kids. and in general, so to speak, to feel some kind of infringement, so people should draw, er, conclusions and thank grigory borisovich. thank you very much. thank you very much for the extended conversation with us. grigory karasin, chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs, was in touch. it was the fifth studio. see you.

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