and central russia to the russian region, kaliningrad a and yet the problems were you about it well. you know, sergey ryabokon is in touch with us, uh, sergey vladimirovich, temporary charge d'affaires of russia in lithuania hello, uh, am i not too optimistic when i told you. that's how the situation seems to be getting better on hmm, is it? uh, well, of course, this news is positive news, just like in uh. here is what concerns the train, and in relation to the situation on the land section of the border at the checkpoint with a decrease the number of cars. eh, that's all, it's positive, and god forbid that it be so, you understand, so that it's not some kind of temporary seasonal, maybe factors here in the part that concerns the land border. uh, you know, i want to say that hmm, well, what can i explain here. uh, first of all, there are such

influxes from time to time. uh, often they are explained when our people go out there. here are representatives of the consular department of the embassy, ​​because it happens that drivers stand in these queues. here we find out the computer. here the lithuanian officers there broke down, then there are still some problems there, but the main problem is. e, which is fixed already a lot. the time lies in the fact that on the russian-lithuanian border here at the present moment and yes, and in the past tense. i don't know, let's say the last year there. so. well, or six months. this is for sure , just one checkpoint, one checkpoint - this is from our side. this is chernyshevskaya from their side, this is cyberta. and he is very small the checkpoint has already been built differently. uh, the magnificent checkpoint, which is called from our side dubki from their side robinas. you can imagine this under 40-8 lanes in each direction. this is the real checkpoint.

we, uh, were ready to launch it on the russian side a year ago. here are the lithuanians under various pretexts, but the truth is, they had some technical difficulties there. something they have there, uh, washed out the road and so on and so forth, but in general, they have been repairing there until now. they fix it all trying align and no further than yesterday. i was at the ministry of foreign affairs and raised the question that it would be faster to introduce this land checkpoint for trucks there. eh, built in. uh, they used to tell us that in mid-july, it will be introduced unambiguously. for the whole of last year, they were oriented towards mid-july. uh, earlier this year. they have already begun to designate his other terms as august 15 , and so it was, uh, until recently. yesterday i ask. so what about august 15th? you confirm no, we will tell you, then the answer such. here, how will it be ready? here we will tell you, so on august 15, we are guided by this. no, let us tell you. such a conversation

took place no further than yesterday, so, of course, what you are saying is all correct. and i say again. god grant that it be so, that no politics interfere in these matters. uh, there is such a danger from the lithuanian side that they can, uh, the checkpoint is already ready for work, just, well, no matter how you put it into operation and exclusively along. that's just how they closed other checkpoints passes at the border of the reasons not in the water, do not open. they don't exist, they used to be closed under covid restrictions due to covid restrictions, covid restrictions. lithuania took off may 1 well, after the pass, you see how they decided not to open. therefore, this is the situation with them, sergey vladimirovich, and the road was repaired. in the end, they fixed it. well, you know, the technique is there, what it is, they subdued it. so when we talked to them, what's the problem? they say, well, you understand. we are here in the european union, we have to go to tenders, we checked one tender. he

it didn’t work out, either no one wanted to participate there, or something else, it means new tender procedures, they say. this is where it takes a huge amount of time. this is what they had, so, uh. well, legend, let's put it in quotation marks, maybe , but yesterday they told me that, well, now the equipment is being laid, it is necessary that their customs officers and ours have some kind of quarantine sanitary services there. as if the border guards, so that they all pay for the interaction. well, please, of course, but we were pawning it, to be honest. for the month of july. uh, that should already be running. but god forbid that it be so, until august 15th. if it had happened this way, then it would have happened. eh, i'll honestly tell you a very optimistic forecast if it all starts on august 15, but it will make it very much possible. e. well, here's how to release, this is the only, uh, checkpoint of the chernyshevsky cybort and then, well, maybe there would be no queues at all. to be honest, yes, and sergei ivanovich a on

the railroad. here the first composition came, then yes, there are lithuanian customs officers, no problems. uh, hmm, they don't create our uh transport companies, that is, everything goes smoothly, because there are plans, of course, to transport a lot, and as it has always been, therefore. e broomstick there is no question you know as long as the situation. well, how can you tell? generally? she's normal in general, huh? eh, well, and when you say that in general everything is fine, you definitely need to put, probably, a comma and say that, of course, there are some nuances of these nuances. uh, not so little say. they are. uh, it's another matter that they may be. for the time being, these nuances are technical in nature. i'll just name one. here we are in close contact with very close contacts with the administration of the kaliningrad region. well, literally every day. we have phone calls, correspondence and all that, and here and there is plastic. e, the kaliningrad region, what they told me, for example, one of the last, when it was

finally here well, how would this problem be embroidered, when it was, when it was embroidered, so they what they say, uh, they say, well, look at one of the rules that are now being introduced. these are, uh, averages over 3 years. here are a few more items you can't carry. right now, for a year, than the number that corresponds to the average for 3 years. well, take for each commodity item, whatever you want, which they made there under the sanctions, i don’t know, there are wood products, maybe from building stone. here is the cement glass material, but here, too, there is a catch. what is it? look here. well here, uh, they tell me, here are colleagues from the administration, what about the kaliningrad region? well , what will happen if, for example, we did not use this particular position. well, less glass was used in 3 years. or not used at all. and now here we go. well , for example, we are building hospital schools or residential buildings there. well, it just went according to plan . and now we need more glass, and for the last year, for example, or for 3

years. here is the average indicator, well, some quite insignificant. well, what does that mean? here, which means that there is a nuance that needs to be regulated, and there were a lot of them last week. we literally spent the whole day on solving the issue with chickens. here are the embassies, yes, deals with such issues and pleased the lithuanian authorities chickens. they are trying to block for the second time. this means that you know the chickens that are still in the egg, but are no longer the egg, the chicken that has not yet hatched . but he will soon become so bryonic, or something, the so-called eggs, uh, so, uh, hmm, there is no clarity from the european commission. what kind specifically documents e, lithuanian customs officers must demand it from russian suppliers. and here one change requires one documents. here in may, for example, it was possible quite quickly. on may 17, in my opinion, there was a similar case. and now it's last week. uh, a huge show truck,

so the trailer is like this with, uh, three hundred 50,000. these are the eggs, well, the chickens are already, in fact, alive, to the poultry farm in the kaliningrad region and we were unable to get through for two days, he went from russia behind the main part of russia in the kaliningrad region. yes, well, slava, uh, customs officers. locals here say that they need clear, precise instructions from the european commission on this commodity item. since may , they have not been able to receive them. and that such eggs are not transported back and forth in europe, they are only found here from region to region, of course . here is the question whether this is intentional or not, until i can say that it was all with the regime, because they still missed them and the eggs. these chickens were delivered. as a result, to the kaliningrad, uh, region and everything ended successfully, that is. uh, soon normal chickens will turn out of these eggs and the inhabitants of the kaliningrad region will receive them. uh, you're being serious, but this

example was brought in specifically to understand, uh, uh, the atmosphere that you have there. and as i understand it, that is, after all, except for these political moments, about which there are components. and yet, this is the european bureaucracy, vaunted in quotation marks, which is getting bigger and bigger. it manifests itself in these difficult conditions, when everything is calm. she seems like normally works a little e, the situation goes out of the usual habitual course. we see what we see, that is, as i understand it, that after all the european bureaucracy is not as good as some of our fans here. the west seems to be the first thing you can say, and she is lying and, of course, she probably has her own everywhere. here are the distortions, but when this bureaucracy is also faced with what, uh, well, is called such intent. you understand that never, of ​​course, i can not say. this is absolutely certain. i can only

to your feelings. it's one thing to judge when it's bureaucracy, and then it's possible to get technical on this, this is a question of a technical nature. you solve it and you can solve it. these eggs with chickens, of course. it's probably closer. i would see that this is more of a technical plan, but there are others. here are the questions. they didn't give us as yesterday. for example. look how this is just a picture for you, so that you just know the question is not over. well, just on the surface, but it is already starting to emerge, which is meant. uh, all this kaliningrad cargo. here is the transit, which means the lithuanian side has closed to one bank ; here it is called shaulbanka. this is a local bank, there are not many of them . there are only four banks in lithuania. well , which operates quite well in the most complete by the full number. here are the procedures. and here, uh, our operators here, who use the services of the lithuanian railways, uh, roads for the transportation of goods, must, well, somehow, uh, pay them. so here are the amounts. yes, these amounts must be

paid through the siauliai bank. so. here, see what happens next. here's a fucking bank. eh means e. he came out with such news, not even an initiative, but the news that from september 1 he will stop all banking relations with russia, you understand. of course, we paid attention to this . we wrote a note. that's when well it's called the termination of economic ties. well , something like this or let's get another bank. well, you have touched on a very serious topic. this is a serious topic , we are now very seriously dealing with it. i see this as a blow to kaliningrad transit. only it may be another matter from another direction, let's, we'll figure it out. let's see in the mid, when i was with them yesterday in the lithuanian mig, i raised this question. i personally gave them a note on šiauliai, the bank, sort it out before september 1. there is still time. you have decided the kaliningrad transit. you have removed all the tension. so why are you preparing a second strike on the cargo transit here,

because if our people cannot pay off, then not by mooing, so by rolling this transit it is in this way. eh, well, not that stop, but yes, sergey, she’s everything, of course. you have touched on a very big topic. we, unfortunately, ended all the time she had a conversation. and i understand, we will follow and you keep us, please, informed. this is a very important topic, because they are really cunning, but bureaucrats or someone in europe would like to, apparently, but still, we need to create further problems here, and we need to track this, and we continue to release the topic, in general, european european security of course, andrey kokoshin is also very important. we are in touch andreev afanasyevich hello good afternoon. well , you probably heard, yes, the beginning of the program, because it was not directly related to security issues, what you do, as director of the center for advanced study of national security, and it seems to me, now all issues related to this our national security, because even purely economic and questions are

technically translated into such, and confrontation into e. question. basically, safety. ah, but as far as the military itself is concerned, component is the intention of the united states to deploy additional forces in poland. i understand that this is a new initiative or a new old initiative of the american authorities. and i understand that they have been talking about it for a long time. well, please comment on these latest american initiatives. well, uh, i think that this is clearly such an anti-russian step on the part of the us of the collective nato west, uh, and in many respects, of course, initiated by poland because the polish leadership. e for a number of years, especially the last few months. uh insists on an increase in the american military presence over uh on its territory under the far-fetched pretext

of a growing threat from russia and i am these planes. in general, they have known for a long time. e even when i was planning to create them. when we considered various countermeasures, and in principle, the characteristics of these aircraft, their capabilities, strengths and weaknesses are quite well known in the russian federation, they were taken into account when creating. we know how to neutralize the latest weapons systems. how to deal with these means, but of course, this is an unfriendly step, this step is really a manifestation of russophobia on the part of poland and the united states of america and another destabilizing step on

the part of the collective west uh increase your military security. as they call it, and then there was information that, well, or rather, information, just now they began to actively discuss it in the american press, and various specialists. here is a military character, and the american ones that well, again, here this idea is trumpov's the idea that when he was president, and that europe should learn to defend itself and in general, he questioned nato there. but the existence of nato in this e in this form. what do you think, will this topic still be developed further and will the european authorities be able to really somehow push this idea through? well, of course, the threats to russia are there, this, of course, but the creation of some kind of our own, as well. armies here, poland is ready to do it, and they recently declared the polish authorities the coolest army, after all,

well, in europe already. well, poland plans to create , as they say, the most powerful army in europe , which, in general, raises some doubts, and hmm , poland’s ability to do this is due to a number of factors, but in the case of poland, we are talking about, that in order to do it within, of course, this and, uh, itself, poland, as far as i imagine , is behaving quite cautiously about military buildup the european union is the initiator of the discussion here. this topic is addressed by french president emmanuel macron. well, many listen to him, but the reaction. i think that, in principle, it is quite cautious. uh, because uh, after all, hmm, the

nato system is well-established. under this system, the main military spending falls on the united states, most european states have a significantly lower share of military spending in gross domestic product than the united states, about which, uh, trump has expressed dissatisfaction many times and rather hard pressure on his european allies to increase their share of the costs. uh, in general expenses, it is necessary and in general, uh, nato military expenses will, uh, continue to grow in the near future. although i think that their share of the most advanced countries in europe in this regard will lag behind in terms of gdp and share of the gdp of the united states of america. to be honest, i myself

am skeptical. the creation of separate armed forces of this united europe within the framework of the european union, and, most likely, this will not be needed by the united states. and they have enough opportunities to do this in order not to hinder this. yes, and within the framework of the european union, uh, there will be a sufficient number of skeptics who are unlikely to agree to this . andrey, after all, is it possible now to say that this is the european security system, uh, about which we have been talking all the time about the need to create and, in fact, that topic of the end of last year. and now she is on a positive plane, such a political plane, but unfortunately for the most part, but according to various

reasons cannot come, or still hope dies last and yet, despite the situation in ukraine and so on, and the europeans, but the americans, but they want to somehow translate it all into politics. why am i asking this question, because after all, some healthy voices are healthy voices. they are sometimes heard in some places, and in europe do you think these voices can still sound so louder in the near future? well , healthy voices are heard in europe, healthy voices are heard in the usa, let us remember at least the same henry kissingers of the former secretary of state, he is already at a respectable age, but uh , as before, so to speak, speaks on these topics. he is one of those us who are in favor of concluding agreements with the russian federation in order to treat with understanding the

security interests in russia, but these voices, of course, are heard rather weakly and uh. i think that it will take some time, more successes are needed, e our armed forces in conducting a special military operation in ukraine in order to convince e smell and attribute the attempts here such a frontal military solution, e.g. in the confrontation with the russian federation. but we need to continue to work on improving the armed forces and the defense industry. in general. we need to think, uh, about current affairs about the medium and long term to develop uh, the capabilities of both strategic nuclear deterrence and

uh strategic non-nuclear deterrence. but this will play. i consider it a very important role to ensure that, nevertheless, in europe, the voices of those who advocate a political solution are blocked there. problems of confrontational confrontation between the collective west and us. of course, economic factors will play a very important role. that's the whole situation that is now developing in europe, especially in germany, as a result of the refusal to supply russian oil and gas. it will certainly also influence the public mood and will influence. e on e possibilities. e change in the approach of political circles to doing business with the russian federation in general, the problem of european security. she is, in general, this eternal

problem. she is, of course, just in different situations. we completely noticed that this eternal problem, and it will not be quickly resolved, but let's hope that sound voices will sound louder and louder. thank you very much. andrei kokoshin was in touch with us, director of the center for advanced studies of national security. it was the fifth studio. i don't say goodbye for long.