access can cross-check e for approximately 400 companies. uh, this company from different areas stopped working in russia. this is the industry. this is energy oil. gas. communications, finance, aircraft, automobile construction, and so on and so forth. and many of these companies left, let's say conditionally, and they either suspended their activities. uh, they're either trying to resell their assets now, or somehow. uh reformat their activities, some companies are not gone. oh and frankly. now of course they take advantage of this situation, when those niches are vacated that they could not apply for for one reason or another before. and here's how to analyze it. all this and such a changing economic paradigm, you know, the paradigm of economic interaction in the world due to the fact that, uh, these trade routes are now changing. and now we will talk with the director of the department of economic cooperation of the russian foreign ministry, dmitry anatolyevich berichevsky. he is in touch with us dmitry anatolyevich welcomed you. good afternoon dmitry good afternoon. let's

probably start with the good. yes, many companies have stayed here. here are the ones i was talking about, and uh, they're even now trying to, well, expand their interaction. e with the russian market. and hmm what countries are we talking about here first of all, which can be called such economic friends of russia ? not has not suspended economic cooperation on trade, of course, there are, as we know, the sanctions of the collective west, what we call the united states and their european allies, asian allies, there are sectoral restrictions, there are attempts, and to force us out of the world financial markets. uh, everything, everything is present, but the companies are showing how

much responsibility. uh, more integrity and consistency, which is why you said 400 companies, uh, left the russian market. or suspended. for such companies thousands and the rest continue to work, moreover, many companies, uh, due to some political circumstances, pressure from the side and the authorities. the states have indeed made the decision to announce that they want to leave the russian market, but in fact they continue to monitor the situation and are ready to return. at any time. there are those who left forever. they will be much harder to find here. e, find a new niche in the russian market, when the appropriate conditions for this are ripe. ah. well yeah, and there are countries now, objectively, which, due to the economic circumstances that are now taking shape, are trying to improve. let's just say to reach a new level of interaction with the russian federation. and what countries are these? quite rightly

, the world is not limited to the collective west. uh, there are about 200 states in the world and most of them, uh, continue to maintain constructive, uh, positive relations with the russian federation, we understand that our neighbors in the eurasian economic union, they are our priority, as partners, it is clear that they are under enormous pressure. and we see how emissaries from the united states threaten them with secondary sanctions and these states with which we are connected. ah, long history. yes, we believe that the soviet authorities are in a soviet shelter, where economic ties have been established for more than 70 years and have reached a very high level. last 30 years. these ties are partly preserved, but partly they have been developed by modern business, new, mutual economic relations. of course, uh no one

i want to lose them, but there are threats, and it's understandable that countries are somehow experiencing a certain concern, because they also suffer from these sanctions, uh, imposed against russia, but nevertheless , we find ways to interact. we find , uh, some patterns that allow us to keep working. uh, where our partners believe that it is possible, that it is comfortable for them, we do not want to embarrass anyone in any way. well, here, for sure. now many countries are probing here this potential for economic cooperation, which is a hmm in the future, interaction with the russian federation opens up and some countries. well, including the countries of latin america, probably, and here, uh, quite carefully , uh, many countries are doing it. eh, on the contrary, here, well, now they are trying. most likely, so here is the benefit of

this situation to get, but about the prospects. speaking of which, what are the prospects for just this situation in which we find ourselves. hmm. here you are interacting with the same latin america with the countries of asia africa, that's where sergey lavrov recently traveled and negotiated with many strange people. well, the same china yes, dmitry , you see, at the very beginning of our communication. you talked about change. uh, paradigms, uh international relations really after the coronavirus pandemic and after uh, the start of special operations in ukraine uh and the imposition of western sanctions, of course, the world will not be the same. yes, and therefore e all connections. they are somehow restructuring, adapting to new conditions, and we see that russia has introduced a fairly limited group of states , about 40. and, as we know, there are about two

hundred states, and all of them continue, uh, to cooperate with us, the country of latin america, none of them imposed any restrictions against russia. yes, there are natural difficulties associated with the fact that they payments go through. uh, logistical uh, chains are broken through the fault of the collective west, which destroyed these chains. yes, so of course do business. it’s more difficult, but the business for that and e is listed on entrepreneurship on a healthy initiative, but desire to earn. eh, that he finds ways, uh, to bypass these sanctions, they find ways to continue, uh, business, since it is profitable for him and we cooperate well with the brix countries, uh, if we talk about latin america, then this is brazil, then this is the supply of agricultural products of fertilizers uh those components uh industrial products that we need. yes, that is, uh, we saturate our market with those goods that are not enough on the

russian market, of course, by force. here are all these circumstances, breaks in the chains of destruction destruction of basic international law. e, when our gold foreign exchange reserves are frozen, when the assets of the state of our companies are arrested or frozen for absolutely no reason. yes, that is, the rules do not work in these. there are temporary difficulties in the conditions that need to be overcome, but there are partners who pursue a sovereign foreign policy based on their own interests, and not to please someone. yes, these are the countries, uh, most of the countries of latin america, of course. e, such a major player in the world economic arena, like the people's republic of china, by the way, with china in the 21st year we had a trade turnover of about 140 billion dollars this year, it is growing at an enormous pace. and over the past 20 years, we have built a

comprehensive system of bilateral relations at various levels, from the highest to the regional, in various fields in various sectors. india is also the most promising, e, the largest partner in asia with colossal economic growth, probably the highest in the world. e today, which buys oil from us. petroleum products and military products and agricultural products , fertilizers, and so on and so forth, respectively. we get, uh, a whole complex from india. e goods that are very necessary for us now, yes, moreover, here we have periodically. well , not only here, i mean, in the information environment , this is periodically appearing, a selection of such statistical data, how much the export and import of this or that product has increased. here from the same india there with china and so on. well, about business, probably, many would now say that there are two such strategies, yes,

which are now being undertaken, in particular. here is big business, either this, uh, such a well-known principle, the bag missed, that is, to take the place of the departed e. go to take this niche, or many take such a wait-and-see attitude, as in a conversation with e. here. a few months ago i had a conversation with the ambassadors of latin american countries, there was an event. they told me that but until nothing has changed, until we see that someone has gone from somewhere. yes? that is, they have taken a wait-and-see attitude. and what is happening right now with the countries of the african continent , it is interesting here, because china is showing great interest in them, and the united states, of course, too. eh yes, you are absolutely right. if we talk about business, then here i would like to note the following, that we do not close ourselves from anyone, our president said this, we keep all the doors open and we we are part of the international economic

relations of the world economic system. and if these are businessmen from countries that we now call not friendly, this does not mean that we will not help. e to work on the russian market, if they themselves want to do this, often contrary to, uh, the will or signal given by their governments, yes, if this is an honest , conscientious entrepreneur who, uh, for a long time and seriously, has established himself and is ready to continue working in the russian market, then we will not have a prejudiced attitude towards him just because he is from uh, the so-called unfriendly country. we will help all investors who want to work here pay taxes and develop their business. well, of course those countries that did not impose any restrictions that would like to invest. e into the russian economy, then here i can speak directly about certain preferences. about some benefits that can be provided within

the framework of special economic zones of the territory, advanced development of special investment contracts, and so on and so forth. concerning africa then recently took place quite. ah, the successful visit of foreign minister sergei viktorovich lavrov to the african continent, and it all started with egypt, a very, very large, serious country that has not stopped with us for a minute. uh, cooperation does not hold, a balanced political neutral position was held very constructive, constructive negotiations. we have ahead of the meeting of a bilateral, intergovernmental commission, which is scheduled to be held in the fall in the quarry , the implementation of such flagship investment projects for the construction of a nuclear power plant, the creation of the russian industrial zone zone in egypt and statistics also confirm that bilateral trade turnover in the first half of the year increased by 40% compared to the

same period of 21 years. well, sergeevich also visited other countries and was confirmed everywhere, everywhere was confirmed set to, uh, constructive cooperation. all of them are glad to see russia on their continent. uh, yes, russia. maybe now they can't infuse so much money. how much westerners are capable of this ili, china for example, yes, but we can offer another we can offer our competence our expertise. uh, separate investments in separate projects that would be beneficial for us and our partners in africa and a plus. they see that russia is pursuing such a sovereign policy. independent and encourages them to do the same, that is, we do not force them to anything, we do not teach them anything, unlike our western ones. ah, the so-called partners. yes , and we tell them, guys, do what is beneficial to you. we are ready to help you. and you understand

attracts very uh, in our position. and as far as the western restriction is, they just interfere. eh, this dialogue. here again, if you remember the same latin america that is ready to cooperate with us, but here objectively, for example, uh, there were hmm these very serious obstacles due to logistical restrictions. that is, for example, the countries of latin america could not receive fertilizers. yes, necessary for agriculture. i had to search there. uh, absolutely some other leverage as a result. that's just e fertilizers, in my opinion, went there with the rest of the countries. here, as far as the western restriction, and the anti-russian ones, hinder the establishment of this interaction. well, you know, of course, in the conditions of such a serious confrontation by the west, the forms of our interaction with the states of latin america, the middle east, north africa are naturally changing

in order to effectively adapt to these restrictions. missions are discussed modalities for further implementation. here are promising bilateral projects at the level at the level of specialized experts from relevant departments. but i repeat, business. he sometimes acts independently on his own and finds ways, e, to deliver certain goods to their destination. uh, somewhere other companies are hired, somewhere there are churchmen from russia or from other countries who are ready to insure cargo. that is, in any case. uh, goods reach consumers in one direction or the other. by the way, it worked for us. e. uh, the headquarters under the leadership of the minister of transport saveliev, starting from march of this year and until the end of may, on a daily basis, we gathered and looked at what applications of complaints from the regions from our businessmen were, and all this gradually gradually out

of 2,000 applications that were gradually reduced practically to zero, and then it has already passed into such an absolutely working mode. i mean, uh, way out of the situation. he is always located, as it were, our e. colleagues partners from the west did not think that this would allow them to strangle the russian economy or to limit our relations with those who want to cooperate with us dmitry anatolyevich, right now the whole world, of course, is watching such a political confrontation between the united states and china over taiwan, the second delegation is already there. uh, hmm politicians arrived uh, arrived on this island in china protest protest after protest. and hmm, this is very similar to the previous ones, just these tensions regarding this island, in your opinion. here. how can this affect the economic model of interaction, after all, these are the largest, and economic partners who

are interested in each other, and here is such a story. yes, well, you know very well the position of russia, it has not been repeatedly voiced both at the highest level and by our minister. yes, we read provocative. uh, neng-pilos' visit to taiwan . eh, everything. it doesn't help. uh, stabilization of the situation and all. it warms up. such tensions, uh in the region, uh in the asia-pacific region. yes, and, of course, the economy is inevitably affected. we see that china has already introduced some restrictions. e for taiwan e. tension arises, a crisis arises trust, in general, in world economic relations and now between china and the united states, including, and we see that in the russian example, that even a failure in logistics e in financing in financial calculations e between

russia and with the west, the disconnection from swift, for example, yes, all this led to a serious decline in the economy in general around the world. yes we know the stats world bank imf e and redigital sessions for the second quarter in a row, united e. the states are already predicting a recession and for europe we see how inflation is accelerating, how the standard of living is falling and, of course, if the americans, uh, want a serious confrontation. with china, the situation in the economy will inevitably become even worse, because china is a world economic power comparable to the us economy, and the americans will be here. it's not easy at all, but dmitry anatolyevich . of course, there's another thing that worries a lot of people right now. here we are talking about changing the economic paradigm. it basically consists in the fact that countries now don’t see prospects in long-term

contracts, because, as you rightly said, there is a crisis of confidence now, and between large economies and this crisis of confidence, in your opinion, it will e to the nearest time. what can lead to someone talking about the prospects of global famine there, someone just talking about the most severe economic crisis there, which could erupt because of all this. well let's not quite pessimistic. i hope that there will be no global famine, especially since the prices of cereals. uh, the last few months have been steadily declining. and it's largely due to. ah, the agreements that were reached between russia, turkey, ukraine, and go on the supply of russian grain to different parts of the world. uh, uh, the supplies of ukrainian grain from the black sea ports have begun, and it’s another matter how your transfer didn’t say everything. they reach the really needy strange,

hang somewhere. e in europe yes or some countries rich enough. but in general, hmm . of course, there is a danger that energy prices will rise seriously, and this will reduce competitiveness. uh, european industry is. uh, again, uh, there are some inflationary risks, but such as mudis predict inflation in the eurozone next year up to ten percent. and we know that in some eu countries already now, uh, inflation has such a double-digit rate. there 22% in estonia 21% in latvia 20+% in lithuania e, about nine percent. uh, forecast for western europe . that is, uh, that's it. this, of course, does not add confidence, but nevertheless, nevertheless. we also continue to work with our partners with

those who are willing to work with us with pleasure. and if uh, it will go at a normal forward pace. i think that both russia and , uh, the brix countries will contribute to stabilizing the global economy. we will build those ties that will be stable and not depend on the political situation. this also applies to mutual settlements in national currencies. this also concerns the formation of a whole new model of e -cooperation, which would be independent of political will. yes, healthy uh, pragmatics, what is now yes, always, in principle, in economic relations, everyone needed and probably will need dmitry anatolyevich thank you for being with us on the air. let me remind you that we talked with dmitry bichevsky, director of the department of economic cooperation of the russian foreign ministry. thank you. all the best. alfa-bank credit card is a whole year without interest and

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