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tv   Karin Knaisl  RUSSIA24  August 21, 2022 8:24pm-9:00pm MSK

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what we see now will happen here in europe three and a half years ago, karen kneiss was still minister for foreign affairs. austria now she lives a simple life. far from her homeland, she was expelled from europe in lebanon, she has a chance to start a new life and live in peace during the ferocious economic crisis with inflation over 200% and as a result, power outages plaguing the country are the lesser evil for currying. nice compared to what i had to go through shortly before leaving. we visited her in france to talk about the reasons for this act of 2020 decided that i would have to leave
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austria, this was a forced decision in the fall. 2020. i recalled this was long before the military conflict and long before i joined the board of directors of rosneft, but even then i was attacked on the streets of vienna. they called me a russian pig, a russian prostitute. i could no longer work in austria when my two books came out. the first in june, the second in september 2021, one diplomacy, the other about the transition to a new environmentally friendly and technological transport model of the economy, then they were boycotted, so i had to buy some of them myself, no one wanted to review them in the library in relation to me. i would say de facto there was a ban on work in the fall of 2020 . it became clear to karen kneis that she must leave the country with her animals. she went to france for the first time, she
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stayed in hostels and hotels, the french secret services had a hand in ensuring that the housing train was not simple, as i said in the fall of 2020. i left austria sabu i took mine my pony dogs. they are over there, i think you can get to know them better. i was looking for an apartment for a long-term lease for a long time only in the fall, 202. new year's, i finally found housing french intelligence, contacted the owners of my house, asked them and literally told them the following. don't let her in the door. and the most curious thing was that no one contacted me personally even then my name was on the black list. and this is even before the resolution of the european parliament from the end of may, when sanctions were demanded against me, but i i'm obviously on some lists i don't know anything about, and to me this is contrary to all legal norms and the rule of law for comparison even in earlier times,
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for example, in the seventeenth century during the witch hunts for them. at the very least, the charges were brought before the jury, with whom they had to answer and there were protocols. everything, it was recorded somewhere. but what happens to me is not fixed at all. it's a media campaign but i never face it directly, what am i guilty of russian pig should be hanged animal killer mole kgb threat of physical violence and insults more and more slanderous articles appeared in the professional media, everyday life curring, nysle more and more like a nightmare i contacted two lawyers . in austria, they successfully completed 26 trials with them in the past at that time, that is, in the spring of 2020. i was accused of killing animals, allegedly. i poisoned them. in
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particular, information appeared in the media that for poisoning, i used the novice substance. but that was just the beginning. the company was huge, and there are many reasons for that. we can discuss them later, and in the last few months new attacks have begun saying that i am here in the south of france living a luxurious life in a villa, on the cote d'azur and bathing in money. here's how it was presented. and when the military conflict in ukraine began, there were statements that the kneisel was shoveling and rowing money there and did not want to help refugees, and so on. this is where it all started. i don't live here in luxury, because no matter how much i teach at two universities in moscow, no matter how much i receive compensation from rosneft for my activities on the board of directors, all these amounts are still blocked due to the sanction. i do not have access to this money, which probably was, perhaps before the sanctions they literally tried to drown me in all this, so i
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turned to two law firms, but nothing ended there, because there were articles because of the kremlin stones. yesterday, literally, the newspapers were full of headlines that i had been working for 30 years to the kgb and was a spy for the austrian government. this is due to the fact that here in france i was familiar with a russian who worked for the kgb and it so happened that we studied at the same academy. and in paris in 1992, i had the opportunity to receive a scholarship there at the invitation of the french government, and i studied at the national school of administration for a year and worked in the prefecture for half a year, but i never had any personal contacts with sergei zhirnov. my social circle was different. this is an unimaginable lie according to the opinion, carrend nice in france without a home without lawyer. not the best condition for a fitting rebuff, but one, if it did not want to ignore the media harassment and absurd accusations of wardesses, it also did not want to leave unanswered the threats that the unknown sent her
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every day, i received repeated death threats in austria a. also here the threat came from behind germany germany even reached the prefecture most. i received by email. some were thrown into my mailbox and no one wanted to take it seriously, what was there written content was approximately the following russian pig. you need to hang. putin's prostitute you need to cut your throat and bury alive, and we will watch this action. it's the wildest thing i've ever read carnetsillas, had to defend myself against politicians, both in austria and france. she considers them corrupt, the way the austrian elite treated her reminded her that the order of the thirties of the last century became tough. she was no longer surprised. why adolf hitler relied on the austrians to choose ss leadership the constant attacks made her suspicious, even during our filming. she could
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n't rule out that some secret agent was watching her and eavesdropping on her conversation 3 weeks ago on sunday. i contacted the former federal president. austria heins fischer. we are talking. sometimes i said that when in germany there was a threat of sanctions against gerhardashroeder from the european parliament, chancellor scholz immediately took a clear position, he said that there could be no question of schroeder hit to the sanctions list. in austria, the newspapers were full of headlines. hooray all assets, korin kneisel will be confiscated. this is my property. this is the house of money, for which 120,000 euros. i earned money and then built it for another 12 years and that was it. this is long before , in their opinion, i began to work for someone from russia, that's how austria reacted, there was not a single person who would say in a legal point of view. it's illegal. i would. to you, an eu citizen whose house would be confiscated, i
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asked former president hines fischer if he was ready he somehow supported me so that at least someone would do something, he refused, so i don’t have the opportunity to somehow defend myself against these accusations, the media and no one in austria has the courage to speak publicly in my protection and say enough is enough she left the country. she doesn't oppose austria. i haven't founded an opposition party. who controls karen's bullying who is she targeted by embittered newsrooms old enemies or orders come from the very top there are many reasons why i'm in the spotlight of this kind. i would say that all this dirt that initially appeared revolved around animal abuse. if i were a man, then i would have been accused of sexual harassment of pedophilia or something else a man in my opinion long ago. more at risk in my case is the cruelty to animals that has been
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attributed to me by the public, causing outrage second only to paedophilia. and this is largely due to the fact that one of my first official actions in december 2017. was working with advertising budget. in austria it's a very corrupt system that taxpayers' money is wasted millions there, given to newsrooms for good reporting and speech. it's not about some hotel dinner invitation, it 's about travel, it's about millions of euros over the past 20 years. corruption took root in austria very much and i put an end to this corruption scheme, which caused many media to react to me like a bull to a red rag. i reported this to the parliamentary commission of inquiry into the ibiza case. gay in may 2021, then was, so to speak, a little robin hood little hero for a short time alone against the mafia. if you like, when they threatened my house, it reminded me of chicago in the thirties, where the small grocer
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said he wasn't going to pay $100 for a roof this week. and this was one of the reasons, but not the only one. i can't say right now if there are any other customers there? i would interpret. it is and it is quite curious. i thought about it a lot during my sleepless nights, now i'm 57.5. and it all started when i was 54 55 years old, and i realized then that it was no coincidence that under adolf hitler, most of the leadership of the ss and gestapo came from austria, they were not sicily, ireland or dagestan, i thought a lot about this. these were the austrians, the inhabitants of central europe, a complete mixture of explosive falsehood and cowardice for many inhabitants of the middle east, europe seems to be a distant paradise ; the middle east is safer now i'm going
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to lebanon because among other things. and who would have thought there is more freedom in lebanon, you say that you will feel freer there. yes, as far as i have been teaching for a long time. in austria , she lectured for several years at an american university. i would like to do this again. take for example the problem of climate change, the problem of the military conflict in ukraine or the problem of a pandemic. these are all topics where there are only two sides black and white from the point of view of science it's a failure and compared to the debates i can have in the universities of lebanon egypt israel i have much more freedom of speech than in austria let alone germany i often had german students say wow to me. you can still discuss things very openly and critically on questions whether it's about israel's war in syria or
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anything else? let's play out the scenario that if curry naisen were to live in france , what would be the consequences? what would they be capable of? opponents, is it really safe? if my safety would be threatened, it is obvious that there are many people who are interested in me , let's say, the public disappears like this, the judge is whimsical, a good lawyer is needed here, if you are not careful, you can quickly become a victim of a violent crowd. not for nothing that in the middle ages a fence was erected around the scaffold, before tomatoes flew from the crowd, today there are vicious tweets and emails no mercy, and for a former foreign minister like karen kneisel. coped with pressure. in the morning at i have to deal with material manure during the day with material manure, and when it is material manure, you smell it, they
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material suddenly flies right in your face, so the finer manure calms me a little, but where are the lawyers karen neisen, former colleagues political associates journalists and customers. they have all turned away. from her, even relatives and friends have joined the campaign against carling nysley, as for friends, a friend is always someone you can call at 3:00 in the morning and say that i had problems with my car and i had several of these people, but two of them, unfortunately, died were my age. and anyway, i don't have many friends left, and last year i had an accident. i broke my ankle in several places and was completely immobilized for three months. i could not. nothing to do i had no opportunity to take care of the animals. thank god i could afford to hire a person who looked after them, and i still thought that i had friends, and i thought whether to contact
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to see them if they can come and i thought i might still be remembered from when i was a minister for a few months and i hope that this will be possible again western observers are sure that karen knaysky danced with himself devil. if you look objectively, she invited one of the most powerful people in the world to her wedding day full of events and consequences. media coverage with an unquenchable fire , without regard to morality and ethics, will she invite the russian president to a dance and again, yes, i will definitely not be like the president of germany , steinmeier kaes, in all my mistakes, everything that has been done over the years of my career has become questionable. i am responsible for my every action. and what, pray tell, is the crime in that i sent an invitation to president putin, i did not expect that he would really come. it was a surprise that he accepted this invitation. and
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in general, it was all spontaneous, as i already said, i danced with him, so to speak, to share the joy that we had with my fiancé. us both were over 50 for both. first wedding. and this invitation just happened to fit. it was pure coincidence. so it turned out my husband and i waltzed. after the ceremony, about 4-5 minutes, and then i went up to the president, he was there and invited him. it was spontaneous, there was no calculation. it's just that there was such an atmosphere. and now scientific studies are writing about this dance as a crime against democracy, and in the dance. there was just such a figure the president bowed. it is on the video kissed the hand, and i curtsied. like i was taught in dance school, and as it is done at a festive ball. and now it's all quoting this gesture was defamed and dumped in the
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dirt. and these are the same gestures that make up life, and diplomacy makes history in its book. i am trying to point out these completely different aspects that should also accompany interpersonal and interstate relations. we cannot think only in terms of missile bases of gdp sanctions. and so on diplomacy is more than a political science dilemma that we are facing in the current situation. and i know it from the european commission lies in the fact that only political scientists are sitting there, there are no historians. there are no geographers - these are not the people who are really engaged in diplomacy and everything that is connected with it, if there are no forbidden ones, then only interlocutors ready to listen to it have become very few, it's time to start all over again. well,
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now karen nice moved to lebanon, this trip , along with all the pets, was fraught with many obstacles; organizing such a move was not easy. after all, it was not only about me, no wig, and pieces of furniture. i took with me two of his boxer dogs and two scottish ponies, the rest are chickens. ducks aquarium with fish, i had to leave, i gave them to friends, but organizing everything, it was not easy. i contacted several forwarding agencies when i finally found a forwarder who was willing to take on this task. the furniture was taken away. at the same time , around the second of june, all things were already packed, and i sat alone with the animals in a completely empty house and slept on a mattress for about 14 days of food, i didn’t have the same as in the area where i lived to buy something without a car and hard. and by
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that time, i already gave it away. it was an extremely difficult time for my friend from austria, because everything was endlessly postponed and pushed back. the last few weeks were especially difficult, but i arrived with the dogs, then cargo arrived. it’s been about 3 weeks since i settled here with from the very first day, i was engaged in obtaining a residence permit, opening a bank account with a tax number, and this is a daily struggle with the local bureaucracy, which reminds me a little of the old ottoman officials of the 19th century. thus, the problems of the former minister were not resolved along with the departure from the country from time to time they put spokes in her wheels, because her glory runs ahead of her, and yet this is heaven and earth. compared to what she had to endure in europe, here i am not subjected to such attacks. what i was subjected to in austria, where they downright spat in my face and were rude, this is a
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pleasant side when i am talking now. infusion of freedom is only hope, because i haven't i have experienced and i don’t know if it works in practice, for example, that i can fly to moscow for a week and will not get big problems upon my return. i can watch the russia today website here and maybe even catch this tv channel, i can talk to people of any background, even on controversial topics, without falling into line. at the same time in black and white patterns. and this, unfortunately. everywhere in europe everything is a little different here, and in lebanon for decades the motto has been valid. live and let live even for centuries on the internet and hatred is not in the headlines weakened, but currying nicely knows how to deal with it in real life so far. she has a hideout. she lives with a syrian family in their house in the
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lebanese mountains where they bring joy to the locals. i said, i urgently need a house where i can stay with my animals, and such a house in lebanon was not easy to find, but the owner kindly agreed to provide a house and allowed to stay with two ponies, mini-shite. i just could n't leave them from them. at first i found a place for them in austria, but then i became convinced that there were no very well and took them to her brought to france well, and then somehow managed to smuggle them here. here they are the stars of the first magnitude, when we go for a walk, everyone wants to take a picture. children greet them. they live in this area. basically, the druze druze are a separate independent ethnic group. they are neither muslim nor christian. their faith was formed under the influence of late or mystical beliefs , the druze live mainly in the lebanese mountains in syria and
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partly in the north of israel, that is, in the former palestine, as well as on the dutch heights. everything very close, a few kilometers away, the druze believe, including in reincarnation. they have a completely different attitude towards animals and nature than adherents of monotheistic religions such as christianity, where for centuries the belief has been dominated by man, subjugate the earth with all the problems that we have here now inflation is -220% fuel shortage electricity 2 hours per day, if you're lucky regarding the interpersonal sphere. i have a feeling that the current crisis. these sufferings unite representatives of different faiths and confrontation between sunnis and shiites. not as strong as it was in the nineties, there is no that christian arrogance, especially on the part of the maranites, however, there were enough people who said what you do with the druze, what you
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forgot with them. you must live with christians. i answered. i accidentally. sladun and a week of people, i am very glad and grateful that i can use this house, but for some, all this is very deeply rooted in their heads along with the family that accepted it. karen kneissl lives in very simple conditions , they cook on an open fire, since the energy in electricity shortage happens only a few hours a day from food. first of all, what can be stored without a refrigerator. mutual support is the basis of carling's joint life. nice contributes by giving home lessons to the son of a syrian family with whom he has been living for 10 years, but he did not really go to school. his father sent him every day to the auto repair shop at 7:30 in the morning. he returned at five or six in the evening. i asked his father not to send more sprays to the workshop. i suggested giving him 2-3 school lessons a day instead. and now we are learning math with him, and also
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studying english. i'm at the auto shop. let 's come back when he's 16, and until then, he should enjoy his childhood to the fullest. it is unlikely that any of the guests will suspect that his teacher was only a few years ago. as head. the mida of the whole country regularly shook hands with the most influential people in the world, if you do not take into account a few souvenirs on the wall and the fact that she took photographs with russian politicians with her to lebanon is not an accident since my work as a minister. i have photographs from meetings with the pope of rome by various colleagues from the european union, however. i deliberately took these pictures with me back to france meeting with the minister of foreign affairs sergey lavrov and with vladimir putin with whom i had 3-4 times to conduct bilateral negotiations for me more interesting memories because i had the impression that i was in a society adults to the west of the vein. often male colleagues from the
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eu, i call them teenagers, are constantly excited constantly in a position of moral superiority. if you want to talk to adults, then you have to go to moscow. beijing islamabad or new delhi are not limited to the political sphere. learning russian in online courses provides her with a great opportunity to escape from everyday problems in especially difficult times, whether here or in france . grammar study. and this i would say, partly with the ambassador of my life, because you are busy with something completely different, and not all these attacks and hatred, which are pouring on you, so i quite often say that russian grammar gave me a really big meaning in life. but even more important are strong friendships. they are the reason why karen knassius chose levan for her immigration with the help of longtime companions, she
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was able to find suitable housing for her animals and overcome numerous domestic difficulties in a restaurant in the bible we meet natalie with her karnetneisel is friends with childhood. our mother worked for austrian airlines when she was a really serious airline, and beirut was one of the most important airports, and naid ’s mother natalie and my mother knew each other at work, and my mother always told me both anahit’s company and her husband arseniy, for me this is a childhood memory. we played together when natalie and her parents were in vienna, as a real friendship began between us, when we were 18-19 years old in lebanon, there were heavy fights, you were constantly in austria between and austria yes, that's right, and in 1989 natalie returned to lebanon since then i visited her, actually every year and that was 24
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years ago. and in total, we have known each other for 53 years with 4 years as karen kneis and it is not easy for many to support her even when the mood becomes negative, perhaps because of this she lost some friends, but for natalie everything. it never mattered yet what they say or say it's all bad propaganda and back i'm against those people who write just to write i know its currin for me personally. this is karin. she's never been different. thanks this the main thing is when you don’t need to explain anything, when you don’t need to pretend to be someone, when you are not reduced to a certain function for the sake of unconditional friendship. and the asylum is ready to give up a lot and
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lead a simple life in a country where for most people everyday life is determined by the struggle for existence. at the same time, lebanon knew and the best times carling shows one corner in the center of beirut which illustrates this evolution here. in take. i saw total destruction over 30 years ago when there was a war only during the war people they always said oge, after the war we will do this and that, that is, there was a certain date of hope, then the country began to recover. very active in terms of real estate and very weak in institutional and social terms, so the war never truly ended on a human level. unfortunately, the property has been rebuilt. and now we are standing here in the most beautiful part of the city of beirut in our time. these were the luxurious shops of the embassy, ​​the banks, the insurance companies, but the dichel remained remarkably
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need, true with the help of game or i and moved to a new economic plan. nothing happens the service industry has always defined the life of the city in the forties and fifties. beirut has always been a city of services, banks, insurance companies. here it worked, people spoke three languages. it is a service society and the people here are by nature friendly, responsive and able to feel the way to other cultures to have here. once i started to succeed, and now those times are gone, it really feels like a complete decline. remained only sick cats and completely destroyed buildings. the economic crisis of 2019 caused the lebanese pound exchange rate on the black market to deviate from the official us dollar pegged money. suddenly depreciated and prices
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skyrocketed, an explosion in the port with colossal destruction in 2020. weakened the economy even more. countries explosion in the summer of 2020, aggravated the situation before that, the banking sector collapsed. it happened in the fall of 2019, and then came the pandemic in time its all were more than him locked up. and as soon as restrictions were lifted here, people began to leave 10-20 thousand people a month. the levants. there are always relatives somewhere. whether it's brazil, france or australia, many of the inhabitants left because they spoke from that country. no, there is no future, a future for our children. so five to ten 20,000 people a month continue to immigrate when i go to a lawyer to get documents for a tax number and so on. first question. are you out of your mind? what are you
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even doing here? who is coming to lebanon i really turned out to be such a strange surreal situation that i say for me lebanon of this come to all opportunities to have the right to live more. i don't need. karen kneisel sees the infusion's living conditions as a grim omen for europe, a future scenario that many would have laughed at a year ago. now it doesn't seem so unreal anymore. i believe that what we are now seeing here will happen in europe. the main similarity is corruption, when the system does not inspire confidence among taxpayers, the population simply ceases to believe in the state in institutions, and this is exactly what is happening now in many societies people can no longer afford everyday life, because inflation is rising, because wages are no longer enough, rent for many years is too
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high for the average family . it 's a combination of many things. and if you add to this the fact that the cost of energy becomes unaffordable, then a lot of things collapse. as an expert on the middle east, karen kneissl understands the differences between western and arab societies in terms of she thinks countries like lebanon are better at coping with crises than germany for example i admire the strength of the lebanese with many of whom i am friends who are still here sending their children to school paying the bills and i don't understand how many of them deal with it. and with what confidence they enter into life, but i think that the point is in eastern society. as such, whether lebanese, israelis, palestinians or iraqis. they are just much better equipped to get through the hard times because they are able to endure suffering because they have family cohesion and don't just go through
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such hard times. now they have been experiencing them for 40 years, but now they say that many things are much more difficult than during the war, but they have some kind of unity, as before. there is a certain lightness of being, which is felt despite the difficulty. this is what defines a given society, and this is what our western societies lack. i can live with electricity for 2 hours a day. i have batteries to work the internet. i charge my laptops somehow it works, but a lebanese society where the main thing is the service sector is fundamentally different from economic centers like germany or austria maybe in germany and europe in general it really should get much worse before it gets better . whether there will be a way out of the crisis is unknown, but if it does, there may be a place again for a former minister, foreign affairs, who was expelled from her home country for advocating pragmatic relations with russia
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and even karen nice remains unshakable and does not allow herself to be defeated by moralists, who in the end resort to the most immoral means not to lead her astray. only she knows where her path leads. summer will be interesting. we're leaving, i hate you in the summer will be exciting. now someone began to toss, red roses on the windshield of my fiancé's car, victor my ex-husband pavel
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my friend in the summer will be an exciting prayer. you know? let's shot the premiere in the world was not. summer will not be boring movies serials documentaries cartoons
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