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before the ridge, the cellar cannot be repaired, the bath cannot be repaired, the warm veranda cannot be repaired, and so on. i know people who did it? i'm saying you're crazy, right? well, how is it? no, this is a bourgeois, variable rebirth. it's in this spirit. we came out of the proposal to cancel the first one, but we will present here one more of our interlocutor. we lived so well, well, we really lived well, but we lived so well that we did not understand that we lived well in the mid- eighties valentina romanovna parshina tell someone from the leningrad region the hero of social labor, the worker, the deputies of the supreme soviet of the ussr and a member of the delegation of the soviet parliament, who in the fall of 84 went to britain; gorbachev was the head of the delegation, while it was the british at this distance. so didn't the west impose gorbachev on the soviet union and didn't they reforge him in the west at all? it must be said frankly that let's say
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it is very frequent, so to speak, visits and meetings , mm, so to speak, by western leaders, relegation to the background, so to speak, leaders of the countries of the socialist camp, because during this period meetings have almost ceased. eh, a fairy tale for nothing in a clot, let's say, there, uh, let's say in cyrosil, uh, elephantineker and so on. and this, by the way, is mainly western countries from my point of view. to some extent, gorbachev's ideology was also formed there. here, using the example of gorbachev's first visit to london, we will understand this popular conspiracy theory that he was imposed on the soviet union from there. so the most important episode from the
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early international biography of gorbachev visit to london eighty-fourth year meeting with margaret thatcher's ill-wishers of mikhail sergeevich call it bridesmaids. well, what was it, in fact, in the thirteenth year, the british government declassified 400 documents about the circumstances of the preparation, that visit, there is something to read. the first document dated june 5, 1984, thatcher's personal secretary writes to the foreign office that the prime minister agreed to the proposal to invite either gorbachev or olive or gromyko to london on june 28 of the same year in his letter, thatcher's chief of staff powell does not mention gromyk, but again he mentions either gorbachev or oliva, let's remember this circumstance. now a little background in february, the previous 83 years in moscow, yuri andropov, the last general section of the cpsu, dies before the last general section of the cpsu, and many then in moscow gasped when
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margaret thatcher came to say goodbye to him. she clearly looked at the logic, it’s obvious that us president ronald reagan called the ussr an empire that year evil and put forward a strategic defense initiative, which the arms race brought out already into space, the east and west were, in fact, on the brink of war, but washington is far away, and the time of the approach of soviet missiles to london. almost instantly recalls malcon, riffing, being the head of the british foreign office and the ministry of defense. then the second foreign office number. we had a very difficult period following the soviet invasion of afghanistan. there were no direct contacts at all for several years. before that, i was in moscow and met with some soviet leaders, it was very difficult with them, or what? to discuss you know nothing about their families, they gave out, only brief theses, the conversation was very cold even if you didn't have disagreements
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gray faces that stand on top, mausoleum heavy coats, warm scarves and hats looks like wax figures no emotions no smiles no contact from now published documents authentically. it is known that margaret thatcher , a professor of holiness at oxford university, archie brown, pointed out mikhail gorbachev's contact. i drew attention to him when he became secretary of your central committee in the seventy-eighth year. i became even more interested in gorbachev when i talked with him old friend. it was a czech who had fled to the west, from dan millionnersh, who studied with gorbachev at moscow state university, to my question about whether gorbachev’s broad views were the answer from lyn rzhe? yes, he is open to new ideas , intelligent and committed to an anti-stalinist
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view. in my opinion. it was a very unusual set of qualities for the brezhnev team. since then, i began to pay close attention. gorbachev was called on by the british gorbachev cunningly not how to make secretaries like the cpsu but on the parliamentary line, as the chairman of the committee of the supreme soviet of the ussr on international affairs, we recall that the same valentina parshina was a member of this delegation. many people ask were interviewed. we did not talk , only yakovlev and gorbachev talked. and what happened there? we do not know what and how it happened there. in fact the whole known tossed her folder and i folded it and started talking. then she climbed with her bare feet on the sofa there. or maybe she tried you like that? striking no, however,
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the same technique with legs is interesting. in a few years, us secretary of state madlon, walbert on negotiations with yevgeny primakov, primakov, as we can see, only laughed at the fact that thatcher, the hosts, who headed the conservative party, was an emancipated western person, and what the inexperienced soviet comrades took for gestures of incredible confidence was often not necessarily a game, but simply an unusual western manner, which gorbachev himself knew about the west to london the first meeting with mikhail sergeevich was in 75 , falin, then the ambassador of the ussr of the frg, then, gorbachev liked the behavior of characteristic questions, who were interested in distinguishing him from many other visitors from the center did not dismiss anything
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interesting, what do we know? he would, on the contrary, say. yes, there is a lot lost for bloat and there is a lot to learn. in the course of our interview, we showed mikhail sergeevich several photos, about which we thought that he would immediately remember. he remembered too many other impressions from trips around the world. or maybe he just didn't want to remember how he traveled around the world with his wife. so the hotel, chita del mar in italy in sicily where mikhail and raisa gorbacheva went on their first trip abroad in the early seventies, unlike ordinary soviet citizens, the nomenklatura park could then go to the cap of the country. let it be in the tyagotinets, which belonged to friendly trade unions controlled by the socialist party, the reader of mary is just such an issue by the standards of post-soviet tourists, as you can already see and nothing so special, the metal landscapes are certainly amazing and now again to fresh reports from
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the ministry of defense on the progress of the special operation the ukrainian military made another attempt to capture the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant late in the evening before, they landed troops from boats. this is despite the presence of mte mission employees at the station, that's what the military department said. the regime continued unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in separate areas on the nikolaev krivorussky direction during the day of hostilities in this direction, the enemy lost 23 tanks, 27 infantry fighting vehicles, 14 other armored fighting vehicles, nine pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 230 military personnel, in addition, in the area of sergeevka, kherson region, aviation fighters. the russian aerospace forces shot down two ukrainian su-25 attack aircraft, and in the novoselovka area of the dnepropetrovsk region, the mig-29 air force of ukraine was converted to
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use harm anti-radar missiles, heavy losses the armed forces of ukraine in the nikolaev kryvyi rih direction led to an acute shortage of beds for medicines and blood supplies institutions of the city of nikolaev and the nikolaev region to identify and detain an increased number of deserters. in nikolaev, the number of military patrols has been increased and additional ones have been put up. at the entrance to the city, the armed forces of the russian federation continue a special military operation in ukraine with high-precision weapons of the russian aerospace forces, the point of temporary deployment of the company tactical group of the ninety-fifth tenth assault brigade in the village of slavyansk, donetsk people's republic, was destroyed more than 100 ukrainian military personnel and 14 armored and automobile units equipment in the area of the settlement konstantinovka of the donetsk people's republic with concentrated fire strikes. up
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to 120 militants and 11 units of military equipment were eliminated on them by the point of temporary deployment of units of the 93rd mechanized brigade, missile troops and artillery continue to strike operational-tactical and army aviation at military facilities on the territory of ukraine, 53 artillery units in firing positions were hit in a day . manpower and military equipment of the armed forces of ukraine in 157 districts. six fruits destroyed ammunition in the areas of the settlements of velikaya atakova, voznesensk in the nikolaev region of nuts in the zaporozhye region, cretaceous in the kharkiv region kurakhovo and kramatorsk in the donetsk people's republic, as well as the fuel depots of the 60th infantry brigade of the armed forces of ukraine in the kramatorsk region in the konstantinovka region of the donetsk people's republic, a launcher of a multiple launch rocket system was destroyed . ognya hars made in the usa with an ammunition transport vehicle, as well as up to 30 russian combat crew
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air defense systems shot down three unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of settlements of volnovakha novopavlovka of the donetsk people's republic, including in the raktar tb-2 in the kakhovka region of the kherson region, three tactical missiles were destroyed in the air in the areas of chervonny mayak, chernobaevka and teginka of the kherson region, as well as 60 multiple launch rocket launchers. including 44 mlrs, hypers 12 alders, four hurricanes in the areas of settlements antonovka bereslav novaya kakhovka sagi khersonskaya the area of the crossing in the area of \u200b\u200bthe dorevsky bridge is the capital of kupyansk-kamenko, kharkiv region, and so the magician of the zaporozhye region, in total , 286 aircraft, 151 helicopters, 1.867 unmanned aerial vehicles 372 anti-aircraft missile systems 4.776 tanks and other armored combat vehicles 824 combat vehicles of the multiple
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launch rocket system were destroyed fire of 3,366 field artillery guns, mortars, as well as 5,250 units of special military vehicles, despite the presence at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant representatives. mgt. the kiev regime once again attempted to seize the nuclear power plant on september 2, at about 23:00 moscow time, two groups of boats and motor boats with a total number of 42 units with a landing force of over 250 people from among the special operations forces of foreign mercenaries attempted to land on the coast of the kakhovka reservoir. in the area of energodar and dneprudny, four su-30 and two k-52 helicopters attacked the russian aerospace forces at a distance, as a result of which 20 boats and boats were destroyed, the rest of the boats and boats turned around and left in the direction of the ukrainian coast of russian artillery, including howitzers of high
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power, malka, hit the ukrainian sector, the coast in the area of \u200b\u200bthe settlements above tarasovka and chervona dneprovka, where the remnants of the landing force came ashore, according to available information in course. failed provocation, ukrainian nationalists lost 47 militants killed including 10 foreign mercenaries 23 early ones this was a statement by the official representative of the ministry of defense igor konashenkov, and now on our air sequel to the documentary mikhail gorbachev today and then. after all, the italians say that when , uh, you arrived there, it was there that the builder and maksimovich had a conversation on the topic that it is impossible to live here. what did you like about then in europe, what made it so different from the soviet union for me, there was no such problem for russia. i didn't want to be anywhere for more than a week. these are
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invented. and what is not invented is not invented that real sensation in the west, which was immediately made by gorbachev's wife raisa maksimovna. i remember that when gorbachev was taken to a meeting with thatcher at the checkers residence. i was asked to look after raisa gorbacheva, and i showed her the library. there she said that she was delighted with this trip, because she always dreamed of visiting the united kingdom in the country of hobbes and locke, two of the greatest british philosophers. it was very unexpected to hear this from the wife of a soviet leader, and from the wife of a politician in general, and then i thought what a smart, erudite and educated woman, and she also said that she and her husband, translated into russian, read many
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english novels of the 20th century. she talked about famous authors. graham greene summerset my uh, asked me what my favorite contemporary soviet novelist is. what put me in an awkward position because the only one who came then? alexander solzhenitsyn was in my mind at that time he was not yet. rehabilitated, who could imagine that the first person in the country. wow, such a lovely wife. i don't think there were any bad magazines or tea or someone else and many others. well, how are you embarrassed to show them, and here came a beautiful young woman beautifully dressed, showing how they love each other. they are not ashamed of this and i see that she is trying to help him in every possible way and how the enemies wound it, how they do everything
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in every possible way to tear them apart, to defame him, so that he and his wife go around, you know, well, the country is still wild, wild, in fact, as can be seen from the photos of the seventies, the stavropol newspapers were already there, and then she very often accompanied her husband at official events. well, is it just enemies contributed to the fact that raisa maksimovna aroused dislike in someone, as always, everything is more difficult. it was as if we had such a main program and there was a second program. she was the second program she was connected with, depending on the lighting. the brigade that, well, as it were, was tormented by it. of course, we are much more from her program than in gorbachev's program, she herself did not know how to show her around her, but there were people around her, there were referents, there were assistants, and they, as it were, hmm, considered it their duty. yes, there
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show it as much as possible. ah, we knew it was wrong. we ourselves understood, assistants, of course, of course. everything, really more complex and multifaceted, is the first manifestation of rais to the world. this, of course, in england in 1984 it was then on that trip to london in 1984 that raisa of the outside world revealed herself. and here she shot or you and her agreed in advance. you roughly speaking, spoke earlier. we have lived for many years. so it may be that the memories of precisely that triumph raisa maksimovna prompted mikhail sergeevich to spend his eightieth birthday from all cities in london in the albert hall,
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maybe sometimes in his motivation, one must look for no politics, but simple human feelings. well, as for that first visit to london in the eighty-fourth, then more about him. it is known that at that time gorbachev was flown out of britain earlier. than expected his visit earlier. than was planned at this time, when were in scotland at this time died the men of the minister of defense. and we left early. marshal's death ustinova became another signal, the old guard is leaving, the time will come to decide who will be the next first person in london, they may have wanted to, but in the ussr itself they knew the soviet union and itself needs to change. but it’s interesting if they invited aliyev to london if, for example, it wasn’t gorbachev aliyev who stood at the head of the soviet or anyone else romanov, such huge changes
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would have occurred what happened in personal mikhail sergeevich well, today it seems to me that it would it happened, whoever it was. well, because it was feeling in the country. well, it’s impossible to go further, this one, this one, this is still a series of funerals, then it was obvious that this is the country. here she really needs some new absolutely it was, so that they don’t talk now, but it was all it was at the level there, i don’t know at the level of schoolchildren and the military there i don’t know the kgb, it was all there, so when gorbachev he was nothing special, by the way, i would not say, he just appeared, he just appeared, and i must say the country simply gasped. well, right now, few people remember, but one of the first phenomena of the new people secretary general comrade gorbachev mikhail sergeevich was here in leningrad on vosstaniya square, in
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particular, at the corner of the house with ligovsky prospekt. he really went out to the people and made one of his first famous announcements while bang the liquor company. let's remember how it was. and so on with our film about how gorbachev's first steps turned out to be in any way. and as a full-fledged general secretary, and already within the country, and in particular anti-alcohol companies, let's imagine, now we have another hero of our film. they even made me do from wine vinegar you make vinegar. if you already do n’t want to, or you can’t make wine, but i do n’t know it at all, well, let’s figure it out. again , including through the ins and outs. after all, as a child, as far as i know, you first spoke ukrainian, and then learned russian, so, privolnaya, where i was born, the river shares power. this is in two parts, some muscovites and other khokhols go to the
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on their cows then one day instead of money they would give sticks. and everyone lived like that, yes, in principle, all families are the same. we will definitely return to him, because he knows about one very unexpected aspect, in a seemingly obvious story that we want to address. now, here's how the anti-alcohol campaign was announced in the spring of 85 on the very corner with ligovsky
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prospekt in leningrad. on the seventeenth, the measures are introduced , the drastic measures to combat the yang will be published. here is a woman who comes to you with questions about drunkenness. she was trained specifically to ask that question. in general, i did not think that we would stop there, but then the elements gathered the people. nobody collected it there, that is, this woman with the question of how much you can drink in russia was not a preparation. she's just a class of people. and the fact that you answered her that the worlds are being prepared. it was an improvisation and were preparing, uh, an improvisation, if they proved the neighbor who had me in finally succeeded. uh develop measures to combat primacy. and this is still under brezhnev, they begin to deserve more care for the landfill. it
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's all, how interesting, everything is associated with gorbachev. well, here's not some abstract illustration for you about shooting from stavropol territory, which was native to gorbachev. this vineyard took a better restored vineyard. and a miraculously preserved cellar, where unique wines are stored. true, for the eighty-fifth year screw. no, not only vineyards began to be cut down, but also new reserves were laid. banned more than that, and this collection has been preserved by some miracle. how did you manage to save this case? well, here, uh, everyone, uh, honest and honest ways. well, how was it laid with bricks? we went there from some such secret places to keep track of all this and that's how we saved it, right? offensive mistake offensive in general, the page and i personally
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think that it was imposed on him, he needed something . i apologize to give away at this politburo, when there, comrades, there is yegor kuzmich ligacheva and others. there, too, they had great power. he needed to keep this balance, but it seemed to him. well, he will give this one away, but here is what yegor kuzmich was hatching for the antique campaign, so to speak, and it seems to be so to say, there is some kind of stability in this polymer in fact . uh, that didn't do any good. vaughn was immediately convinced of this quickly, it is clear the truth is very fast, and when these riots began and god knows how to cut down these, uh, vineyards. these are some wild distortions of the system, then it was strange that such a sensible idea as the fight against drunkenness turned into such a vulgar proposal as cutting down
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