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but something had to be imposed on him, i apologize to give away on this politburo, when there, comrades there, igor kuzmich ligacheva and so on. there they also had great power. he needed to keep this balance, but it seemed to him. well, he will give it. well, from the anti-alcohol company that yegor kuzmich is nurturing, so to speak, and it seems to be, so to speak, some kind of stability in this polymer. actually. uh, what good did it lead to. he was immediately convinced of this, it is clear, the truth is very fast, and when these riots began and god knows how to cut down these, uh, vineyards. these are some wild distortions of the system, then it was strange that such a sensible idea as the fight against drunkenness in russia turned around. uh, such a vulgar continuation, like cuttings? well, what kind of sample was it? where was it? well, in the south they cut
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down vineyards so that wine would not be produced. some say that they cut down others said that they didn’t . in vain michal sergeevich so the facts speak of quite definite consequences. well, what kind of policy was there less technical grades and more canteen so that the people would eat grapes. i, too, for this, well, it was necessary to immediately start building a fruit storage facility for storing grapes. it is very understanding that culinary is a very tender berry of it. of course, it is necessary to protect the prepinal temperatures in the air and so on, but unfortunately, we would uproot and not plant technical varieties. uh, table varieties were planted after 4 years, they already began to receive the first harvest, well, some part is there, maybe tenth. they sold it while the season is
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fresh, and then there is nowhere to put it on, a curious coincidence. firstly, from those same declassified british documents, it turns out that exactly packaging and, in general, food storage was one of those non-political topics that gorbachev discussed in london in 1984, and secondly, valentina parshina, who accompanied gorbachev at that time, and she, after all, just on this part, and this is what she recalls from her conversations with mikhail sergeyevich before any anti-alcohol company i, for example, asked how you are in agriculture. and as you see the development of agriculture, then i very simply told him that mikhail sergeevich we can grow any vegetables for you , the country's agricultural workers grow excellently, but we need support so that these vegetables reach the people, so we need here. processing industry and storage
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he wrote down. now let's get back to the news of the day, the russian military stopped a new attempt to seize zaporizhzhya with all its might. npp is despite the presence of iaea mission staff at the station well, so that this unsuccessful attack was told in the ministry of defense, the kiev regime continued unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in certain areas on nikolaev in the krivorussky direction during the day of hostilities in this direction, the enemy lost 23 tanks, 27 infantry fighting vehicles 14 other armored fighting vehicles, nine pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 230 military personnel. in addition, in the area of sergeevka, kherson region, fighter aircraft of the russian aerospace forces shot down two ukrainian su-25 attack aircraft, and in the area novoselivka, dnipropetrovsk region, mig-29 , the air forces of ukraine were converted to use harm anti-radar missiles,
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heavy losses of the armed forces of ukraine in the nikolaev kryvyi rih direction led to an acute shortage of beds, medicines and blood supplies. there are no institutions in the city of nikolaev and the nikolaev region to identify and detain the increased number of deserters. in nikolaev, the number of military patrols has been increased and additional ones have been put up. the posts at the entrance to the city of the armed forces of the russian federation continue a special military operation in ukraine, high-precision weapons of the russian aerospace forces hit the point of temporary deployment of the company tactical group of the ninety-fifth tenth assault brigade in the settlement, slavyansk, donetsk people's republic, more than 100 ukrainian military personnel and 14 units of armored and automotive equipment were destroyed in the area of the settlement of konstantinovka, donetsk people's republic, by concentrated fire strikes inflicted defeat by a temporary deployment point a unit of the ninety-third mechanized brigade liquidated up to 120 militants and 11 units of military equipment continue
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to strike operational-tactical and army aviation with missile forces and artillery at military facilities on the territory of ukraine during the day, 53 artillery units were hit in firing positions. manpower and military equipment of the armed forces of ukraine in 157 districts. six fruits of ammunition were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of velikaya artakova ; in the donetsk people's republic, as well as the fuel depot of the 60th infantry brigade of the armed forces of ukraine in the kramatorsk region in the konstantinovka region of the donetsk people's republic , a multiple rocket launcher was destroyed . fire hars made in the united states with an ammunition delivery vehicle, as well as up to 30 combat crew members, russian air defense systems shot down three unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of
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volnovakha novopavlovka settlements of the donetsk people's republic, including a baraktar, tb-2 in the area three tactical missiles were destroyed in the air in kakhovka, kherson region, in the areas of chervonny mayak , chernobaevka and teginka, kherson region, as well as 60 rocket-propelled shells in salvo fire. including 44 mlrs, hypers 12 alder four hurricanes, despite the presence at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant representatives of the iaea, the kiev regime once again attempted to seize the nuclear power plant on september 2 at about 23:00 moscow time, two groups of boats and motor boats with a total strength of 42 units with landing over 250 people from among the special operations forces and foreign mercenaries attempted to land on the coast of the kakhovka reservoir. in the area of energodar and dneprovodny, four su-30 and two k
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-52 helicopters attacked the russian aerospace forces at a distance, as a result of which 20 boats and boats were destroyed, the rest of the boats and boats turned around and left in the direction of the ukrainian coast of russian artillery, including howitzers high power, small, a blow was struck on the ukrainian section of the coast in the area of \u200b\u200bpopulated points above. so far, and chervona dneprovka, where the remnants of the landing force came ashore, according to available information during the failed provocation, ukrainian nationalists lost 47 militants killed, including 10 foreign mercenaries 23:00. well, now they are not several conversations that took place with vladimir putin, but he spoke on the phone with the head of azerbaijan and hamam aliyev, the russian president confirmed to the construction of moscow on the implementation of an agreement with baku yerevan to resolve the situation. in the south caucasus, this was reported in to the kremlin press service, the leaders of the two countries noted the importance of joint efforts to ensure stability and security on the armenian-azerbaijani border, to establish
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economic and transport ties in the region, aliyev also told putin about his meeting in brussels on august 31 with armenian prime minister nikol, pashinyan and the chairman of the european council of charles, michel, even today a telephone conversation took place between the russian president and turkish president rejet and erdogan, the main topics were the situation in ukraine, including the visit missions of the zaporizhia mtten. npp turkish leader noted the constructive role of russia in organizing the arrival of international speech observers. it was also about the implementation of the grain deal concluded in istanbul, as well as joint projects in the field of energy development. on economic cooperation between the two countries, in addition, erdogan expressed condolences on the death of the first president of the soviet union, mikhail gorbachev, noted his significant role in the recent history of russia and the whole world. alfa bank credit card for any purchases and
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real estate service number one in moscow said goodbye to mikhail gorbachev to see off the former president of the soviet union famous politicians, journalists, actors came to the last journey in touch with us from the columned hall of the house of unions, where this ceremony took place. our correspondent. boris ivanin. boris greetings, how was the farewell ceremony? yes dmitry greetings 4 hours, if not more , this ceremony of farewell to the last soviet leader lasted here in the pillared hall of the house, and the unions adjacent, er, to the house. union from the streets in the center of moscow were partially blocked, including bolshaya dmitrovka along it. for several hours in a row, an endless stream of people moved, all who came to pay tribute to the memory and respect for the last general was the central committee of the cpsu, and from the same doors of the house of the unions, literally about half an hour ago, they
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carried out the coffin with the body of the police. the applause of the audience is such. here is the people's love for the first and only president of the ussr, the very same farewell ceremony for mikhail gorbachev also included elements of a state funeral. in particular. next to the coffin of a politician. a guard of honor was posted. the closest were in the hall, relatives are those who knew mikhail gorbachev personally. eh, well-known people also came to say goodbye to him. uh, public politicians are journalists, and here is what they told about their memories of the time when one of the most open politicians in the world came to power. this is the most open policy, and he did not answer personally in the sphere at all from his public personality. it is so that i remember that all my life this man of great
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little great warmth. this was a man to clean up to work with. i left the service once second year, because i thought i gave out help, personally, i now speak only for myself. uh, gorbachev is grateful for the life that i have lived. since then, 35 years have been a rich, interesting, open and very informative life. and the fact that he did not succeed in what he wanted in part, of course, the responsibility lies with him, but by no means only in just 6 years. he changed world politics is a unique event, when a person for 6 years. becoming a leader can change politics all over the
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world he was a man who is very much got a lot of negative pressure on him. nevertheless, he did not leave, any country in the world would gladly meet him, they would arrange a heavenly life for him there, he would stay with his country. let me also remind you that russian president vladimir putin also said goodbye to mikhail gorbachev on september 1, here on his busy schedule. this had to be done a little earlier than today the farewell took place in the central clinical hospital, where the last soviet leader passed away in the nine-sided year. well, today here in the house of unions from hungarian prime minister viktor orban flew to hungary to personally say goodbye to mikhail gorbachev. many european leaders did the same condolences. after all, we will remember mikhail
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gorbachev for his perestroika and glasnost in our country. but abroad he is remembered, first of all, come into the detente, which he carried out. this direct gorbachev was officially over, the cold war. the berlin wall was invited to the nuclear arms race, troops were withdrawn from afghanistan for everything. it was gorbachev later worthy of the peace prize and now for these minutes there is a farewell ceremony at the novodevichy cemetery in the capital, where the politician will be buried next to his wife raisa maximova in the way that mikhail gorbachev actually bequeathed dmitry thank you boris ivanin. he was in touch with us from the columned hall of the house of the unions, where today they said goodbye to the last soviet leader, the first and only president of the ussr, mikhail gorbachev. now, to other events in the german city of kassel , during protests against sending weapons to ukraine, there was a clash between demonstrators and the police
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several hundred people blocked the passage to the local arms factory as police officers who tried to unblock the road flew bottles in response received batons and pepper spray in the scuffle, eight policemen were reportedly injured, including those who were not reported. hmm, let us recall before that, the minister of foreign affairs, germany on ber god announced its intention to continue military assistance to ukraine at any cost, regardless of the opinion of the german voters the visit of the president of moldova, maia sandu, to the gagauz autonomy did not give an answer to any of the questions that worries the inhabitants of the region, and the local authorities said the head of the autonomy, irina vlah sandun. i arrived in gagauzia the day before and met with local deputies, as well as teachers and students of the kamrad state university, residents of the region. let me remind you that this is not the first day people have been protesting against the decision of kiev , which has already led to a threefold increase in
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natural gas tariffs and a serious increase in inflation. well, here are very indicators of the conversation that turned out at the meeting of the head of state with autonomy deputies. ahead we have a lamp and a potbelly stove. i have a huge request to you, as a mother, as a teacher. with 28 years of experience. put everything aside, get ready, go to the russian federation, agree on the price of gaz, are you, as the president of this country? people trusted you, and today they doubt you and doubt not only the gagauz autonomy, but also in other regions of our republic of moldova, our children cannot sit in schools at 15 °. pain in the main role
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that's why i'm taking vitaprost. he restores work. prostate. they simply eliminate the symptoms. and i enjoy the life of vidos because it works. why did gorbachev himself, being a native of the agrarian stavropol territory, and then being the secretary of the central committee of the cpsu just for agriculture becoming the general secretary, all the more stopped listening to practitioners, we will have a separate conversation about this today. in the meantime, we state one more fact, as a result of the anti-goal campaign, sugar disappeared almost immediately, went to moonshine. no remembered american anecdote is this or not american, but together with the americans our americans ask. this is you chernobyl jokes. let him say he comes
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home to his homeland and exposes moonshine to him and says, mommy, is it really not outdated for you, it is not outdated. we have pure millet. of course, i was very wrong. i thought to keep it, but i never thought that all the sweets are in moonshine, that all these drops are there, where there are some alcohol, there are mints, there is something else, everything is absolutely the size and that's it. i never thought that waxon, which means they will be back, like raking there . yes, i never thought that there were some kind of gases there. well when we saw what it does seams. i began to say mikhail sergeevich, it is necessary to cancel all this, before it's too late, but there have already
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been cases where they crushed a person in line somewhere, crushed them, and yet with the abolition of these drastic measures. gorbachev then pulled and pulled, and he had and still has his own arguments. the birth rate has increased, the death rate has decreased, so-and-so, yes, you consider this a direct consequence of the anti-alcohol your company is 85 years old. yes yes. these are the accounts, who is in charge of this account? for a healthy lifestyle , even now, for example, for the current anti-tobacco measures, they themselves did not smoke, never have. and now let's get back to that same childhood friend who tells a completely different story smoked smoked mikhail sergeevich
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where to believe gorbachev, and where not and where he even headed the system was just its hostage. this is probably the main question in general, in general , it took many years to deal with these advances in perestroika debts. and by the way, economists a variety of schools recognize that it was these alcohol companies that suffered the first significant blow, but even then the union budget was another matter. but in general based on common sense, careful reform of socialism. it is, perhaps we had an idea such that it is possible to build socialism with a human face. and i, too, was fascinated by this idea. before i realized that socialism with a human face. it's impossible. mine went through a certain evolution, of course. i
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think i went through it together with gorbachev. and maybe faster than him, but thanks to him, yes, but all the same, thanks to him, and soviet socialism, he was generally reformed. i would remove one word, soviet, then i have a question for you. are we reforming the socialism of jesus christ or not? this is the same thing that was necessary, so to speak, to lead rejuvenation in this doubt. there are none, but all this was done, so to speak , rudely, and i would say, e, so to speak, spontaneously plan. i don't think there were any plans right away , and then gradually gradually began to emerge. this is the perestroika movement. and it eventually met with very strong resistance. apparatus. the apparatus of soviet socialism was generally
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reformed. well, probably, in general, one of the goals was to reform it, by the way, with the help of the party, to reform the party, but it turned out that the disease was so advanced that it was already a reform . in general, it was not necessary to say so. well , the chinese did it, maybe they did it because they saw our experience. such a fate often falls on our country. the first somewhere to pass is not always successful. and did gorbachev still have a plan for change, at least during foreign policy, you know, because for many years people have been rushing from one extreme to another, and i
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remember very well how it was written, the famous speech of mikhail sergeyevich gorbachev when he went to the united nations in 1988, i was among a group of writers. we were taken to a country dacha, and we composed there, and the tasks that one of the then deputy ministers of the soviet union set for us consisted in a very simple thing about shoveling all the international conventions, agreements, electric power organizations, in which russia is not involved and in the speech to announce the accession immediately and to all the fourth part of our film, let's return to another international aspect, but again, the bottom for gorbachev's south of russia is the residence of arkhyz, which has since been kept by valentina viktorovna director, but you tell me already they told everything, but the audience still does not know the secret table, what is the secret? this is what kind of hole this is, a fireplace, it is supposed that you can light a fireplace and sit by the fireplace, that is, the
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soviet-german negotiations were going on at the table. here they are it was all decided here, and already signed on the banks of the river. so what coast did perestroika end up on ? from what other coasts does gorbachev himself come from? combine harvester stalinist six in the harvest of forty- eight, it was on such a combine that seventeen-year-old mikhail gorbachev works as an assistant to his father's combine operator and was assembled. they such a record harvest that the father adds the order of lenin to his front-line awards, and the seventeen-year-old gorbachev jr. is given the second most important civilian award of the soviet union, the order of red labor knowledge, due to this
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circumstance, the next year is still schoolchildren. he becomes a candidate member of the cpsu. well, with such a characteristic in the fiftieth year, he was accepted without interview exams to moscow state university. that's where he first begins to steer and politically. his detractors they say, that's when he could have a kind of, caisson disease such a belief in his own exclusivity, a belief that he is the only one like that. no , this is completely misleading. even the offensive misconception of such combine operators as mikhail sergeevich in the stavropol territory was a lot. there were many outstanding people. well, ivana ivanov, from kazakhstan, who, well, you can say such a kazakhstani with one hand was, an outstanding combine operator, and so on, there were many such people who could visit his feelings of exclusivity, on
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actually it is out of the question. it seems to me that, probably, this moment was present, i can say, because my father worked with him a lot. hmm . here, my dad had hmm, so to speak , such a look that they were involved in an extraordinary, and so to speak, great cause, and this, apparently internally, was, of course, inherent in everyone who surrounded gorbachev. yes, even negotiations on the other side came up. it seems to me that, if we talk about party cadres, the party system has been there for the last decades. she became very sick. you look at the units of the unit of the first stars they clashed at the expense of the director at the expense of the production workers at the expense of the fact that a few scientists everything else goes to the party went to the guys and so
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on and it turned out that, well, some kind of caste. you see, that means, people who practically do not know life. they did not know life, that he was a boy there for the komsomol, otherwise the meeting shouted at us. it's one thing to shout it's another thing to work. here is such a system, the system of formation of party bodies, she led. well, that the party has essentially moved away from the people? well let's talk frankly the ninety-first year. when they said no to the party, how many out of 15 million came out on the street. 0 gorbachev himself considers his biography organic , this combine operator came.
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no matter how you were after studying at gorbachev’s moscow state university, there was a career, again at home, a few fleeting days in the prosecutor’s office, and then the komsomol and the party, but it’s worth saying that it was from here that such iconic members of the politburo as kulakov and suslov suslov advanced to moscow so even came to stavropol to see. how are things going, there were several more successful coincidences for gorbachev. namely, the stavropol territory of this caucasian mineralnye vody resorts and the famous pre-war sanatorium red stones another iconic stavropol citizen and gorbachev’s theoretical patron in the politburo was the all-powerful kgb chairman yuri andropov, however, for the time being, this did not particularly affect gorbachev’s life, because andropov of all only born in stavropol but studied, worked and rested in other places, the stars for gorbachev converged under the following
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circumstances here in stavropol kislovodsk sanatorium red stones set up goes soviet prime minister kosygin, and somehow he shared his impressions with the members. politburo. what they say, why go to karlovy vary is kislovodsk that's when andropov first comes here. gorbachev is already the first secretary of the stavropol territory , an acquaintance in every sense is significant. true, witnesses of gorbachev's communication with the then top officials say that he won it sometimes in a peculiar way. contact was a film from the eighth year, when i accompanied me, this is ilyich on his trip to azerbaijan, the train made stops at different centers, including stavropol, and at the same time resting there, andrusov watched. i'm already here a little bit of another gorbachev bitches, i didn't know whom to give more honors or not to forget, at the same time ask questions, i have appeared, no matter how you are
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gorbachev and andropov. i looked. ahead was the almost inevitable invitation to moscow to be the secretary of the central committee, then to the plane of the bureau, and in the eighty- fifth already to the general secretary, then their presidents and arbiters of the destinies of the entire planet. well, here then was part of his native, stavropol territory karachay-circassian, and oh, gorbachev general secretary, then brought helmut kohl to negotiations in july 1990 after the berlin wall and on the eve of the unification of germany . the main thing was where the united germany would enter on the basis of the soviet-german negotiations, at this point the stump of the chair, behind which they were made, the decisions that will be discussed, was then taken out, as a relic of germany, it’s clear why, but here the chairs were left here the generalsher was sitting here mikhail sergeevich gorbachev here the chancellor the position
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of the soviet union was noble, it was assumed that the united germany, like austria, for example, let their neutral countries not enter either nato or the warsaw pact, it was also proposed to dissolve the warsaw pact. and nato. all this was listened to politely, but of course, they took it all as a fantasy. kohl urged that a united germany still join nato, and after all , we had huge real estate there, there was an edrome, small towns. there, by the way, not so to speak, a building , a structure, and so on, and our troops, which were successfully withdrawn, they were not, so to speak, prepared from the point of view of their arrangement here on their native land. all this hmm, so to speak, here is such a spontaneity that caused
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great harm to the country went to arkhyz there was no security council there was no commission on foreign affairs, the supreme councils had no powers there were no meetings. well, at least the expert community. he went all the way there, and behold interesting response narcissist. as a shlagman, he flew from arkhyz to brussels and said, we need to implement agreements that are worthy of yours and as quickly as possible, when until the concrete-heads in moscow figure out what it is about? and when he returned, we realized that everything was sold, everything was sold, and that they would be nato and the second. which means there will be no money and so on. we even have to. in order
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not to drive, he decided through poland, because for each guest it was necessary to pay money. we are forced to ship from there by sea, that is, those the money that at that time, otherwise they gave us them for transportation, was not enough, and speaking of what needs to be built, it turned out that belarus was driven, otherwise these regiments. otherwise, they lived in tents on the ground. well, why couldn't he pull, right? gorbachev believes that he is right. germany, who considers me, did the right thing from all points. carved in general, they did everything as it should be. happened. this is how russia democratizes its country and implements reforms. that is, we around all these
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european countries showed their reforms, but you to say what they called the velvet revolution yes, and germany remains. this is the business of the german strongly in large cities continuously, in fact there is, uh, the case of a shlib demonstration. and this is how it goes on and on. but we must not forget another paradox that in russia is perceived almost as a betrayal in the west, perhaps understood as a subtle game and even deceit. once i heard the speech of the former american ambassador on american television. he called gorbachev the most dangerous leader of the soviet union of all,
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that they ever were, because he was smart, charming and instilled a false sense of security to the last. so it was believed both in the cia and in the pentagon gorbachev kol in july of the ninth year in arkhyz in karachay-cherkessia in the notoriety of the degree consequence of the summit of gorbachev bush senior december, 89 in malta where first? bush was not in a hurry and was playing for time. another paradox yes, gorbachev himself is now admitting many of those sins of your negotiations with bush. it's pretty idiosyncratic. first you start talking you and you offer bush a philosophical look at what is happening in the world to understand where he is a new balance between e powers, how to make the world a better place and you will listen carefully. 2.5 pages, if the text listens to you. then, after listening, he says, it's all
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fine. uh, but let's discuss the soviet military budget, or completely different memories of ourselves, mikhail. here is the opinion in society in journalism among scientists among all that gorbachev was losing ground, pressing nothing, not a single position was given if we needed something in order to , to stimulate, and even we made concessions to the negotiator and became his position that he did n’t have to go when he also needed to react. and what, in what did the americans make concessions in malta? and yet, in malta, there is a right monument on which it is written that the end of the cold war was announced here, of course, in december 1989 , hurrying gorbachev through huge waves. bush sr. knew what he was risking for. the us got a lot of that meeting, but the
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rest of the world got a lot too. the illustration is this one a first-class transshipment port, which in that same malta could only open at the intersection of new trade routes with the end of the cold war, but eighty-ninth, just in this bay, the ussr and the usa stood gorbachev and bush in the water area of the free port bezzerzhin says gorbachev if figuratively and let's bull by the horns, what do you have there with chemical weapons. they can be the soviet union to declassify its military budget, gorbachev on this, says you will. you know, i brought you a proposal from fidel castro to normalize the cuban american relations will say it's fine, but i also have. there's a problem. you know, they won’t understand me with ram rings on the topic of central america, but the soviet union could help here in the united states, and gorbachev helped. direct consequence of the summit in malta , the then departure from the post of head of nicaragua, comandante daniel teger well, here is the spring
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of the fourteenth year, when artega is again the president of his country, who, however, has now become a zealous catholic, and he is visiting the head of the russian foreign ministry, who was preparing a visit to the monk already and the presidents our country. we recorded lavrovo just during the latin american tour. perhaps the pendulum has swung too far in this direction. uh, we felt something for the first time. e was not very good. uh, cozy when yugoslavia was bombed. and we didn’t resent that much about it, but that’s already behind us. i don’t see any consequences of that period now, but it brought a lot of positive things. let's be frank. can i ask you a frank question. now that you're back in power, you feel like devoted gorbachev. you generally knew about these negotiations in malta, i understood that the soviet union was
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weakened when gorbachev came to power, but despite the fact that your situation was difficult, gorbachev decided to strengthen cooperation with nicaragua, which was then under the american embargo, however, later the crisis in the soviet union worsened and then shevardnadze brought the foreign ministers to our attention. what with can no longer continue cooperation at the same level, that support will no longer be provided at the same level and therefore talk about betrayal. i would say that rather the russian people should judge this. you are very correct. it just seemed to him that here she came, the spring is simply a sacred spring. well, that's enough humanity suddenly, and they say to him, let's talk. and where did it come from here, where did the firewood come from, for everyone, but above all for our two great powers, the treaty, which is on this table, opens up a great chance,
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allowing you to finally get out on the road away from the impending catastrophe. we are required to use this chance is fully a joint movement towards a nuclear-free world, which promises our children and grandchildren and the children of these grandchildren a full happy life without fear and without a senseless waste of resources on means of destruction who gorbachev seems to be a romantic who really wanted, uh, that new thinking or a person would triumph, which hmm rationally did not realize these very national rational interests of the country. i think that after all, romance is a media player. well, it was generally typical. it was at all characteristic of that circle. e that part of the soviet, i would say the soviet population. it was a common
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place that generally friends. well, how much can you arm yourself? let's already. this is impossible. it means that only gorbachev had these thoughts, and in a certain sense. it was quite so romantic, in general the soviet people of romance were russian. all russian romantics in general are an idealist ; the main russian idealists are, of course, intellectuals. and here is probably the main paradox of gorbachev's time. why is he, who gave everyone a reprimand in the most critical the moment was abandoned by the intelligentsia and what else should be remembered about that time. let's meet and start a conversation. he starts something so preachy. i listened for 2-3 minutes, the president said.
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excuse me, i would not be a teacher, i am not a student. moreover, you are not a prosecutor, and i am not an accused, if you are going to read my annotations, then we will not succeed. if you are really interested, let us deploy détente and get rid of armaments. i think we will go far with you. but that was at an early stage and with the rhine, by the way, i must say that, of course hastily concluded with him, but not with the europeans not with the chinese, an agreement on the destruction of medium -range missiles long before the history with germany led to the alienation of the military and the military-industrial complex, and by 89-90 after a series of meetings with the former kohl. gorbachev understood that his actions were causing more and more irritation, let's say, the traditionalists understood, but deciding to reconcile with the conservatives. the disappointment of his admirers caused dissatisfaction and one day he came to work and saw that a was sitting in the next office the main center. this
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there was a division of the kgb and the censor was sitting there before my arrival in the program. and he was removed. and there was an imprinted door, and in the ninetieth year i came to work, suddenly i see that the door was unsealed. i opened and looked. there sits a familiar face of a man from the chapter. this is who speaks. well, now you can't sign the broadcast folder yourself. you must agree with me. well, then i realized that this is the beginning of the end and either the end of the beginning of something else, right? wasn't this the moment when the intelligentsia turned away from gorbachev and returned it was impossible, some share of disappointment arose
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from us look here people. how are you, who certainly became under the banner of gorbachev excuse me already such a phrase. boris nikolayevich here mikhail sergeevich slowed down. i think that this is where the collapse of the soviet union came from, because it is necessary to carry out reforms throughout the country, and not just in one place, therefore, at the congress, they were forced to declare the independence of the russian federation. gorbachev really missed then, and not only moscow and petersburg. in addition, it must be borne in mind that the intelligentsia of the republics. she's played a big role. in general, chorus, yes there, because the intellectual lanzberg came out, yes, he came out on an intelligent one. sohorde people, like yegor yakovlev, do you understand? these
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were the maximalists. although they were also brought up, in general, the soviet country and the city even wrote a book of deer so laudatory, but maybe it was revenge, there will be some kind of past in the world , you understand together for the fact that they were forced, but to adapt to this ideology, which is in the soul was hated and did not adapt to the updated gorbachev although he released them. yes , here's another yes, yes, this revenge ahead was in august of the ninety-first, when gorbachev began to rely on no one at all, but from which the farther, the more questions there are in relation to the usual picture. so many new things have recently appeared, not only estimates, but also data. however, if you remember about all the events about all the contradictions of the gorbachev time, then it will not be enough, not just a few episodes, but the whole life, so let's just let everyone talk now. why
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do you think he is really loved more in the west than in russia, but it's a fact, yes, it's a fact, firstly, in the west they associate the german unification with the withdrawal of our troops. so this already makes him a hero, a real historical us in fact . i told him about it. it wasn't enough here. maybe, uh, the professionalism of the late shaurnation too, because everyone said that if you see troops, if you recognize the unification of the two parts of germany into a single state, then not a single inch to the east. nato won't move forward. but they didn't put it on paper. i think that well , the original gorbachev, in my opinion, is on his mind
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to occupy certain heights of the state. and then, in my opinion, he had a very serious rebirth, he lost his head. i know people who did it, too, yakovlev tossed him all the time. you are our genius, you are ours. this means that shevardnadze also means that he believed the savior of the world, the ussr and russia ended the cold war. if the west at that moment, instead of stupidly expanding to east, stopped within the limits that they could do, but it's hmm greed greed, and that's what it's come to, but it's no longer our responsibility. you were obliged to accept him here, of course, and then you accepted it. great, uh, with a stake, but in general, those years, as you recall, it was a lost time for the
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country. as it seems to you or vice versa, it was a time of breakthrough acquisitions. well, i don't even know how to say it. well, it seems to me that they doused it and lost something, here. for example, how they consider us, now they are also invaders, but this is not so my father fought, on may 6, 1945, he shell- shocked him for a whole year in hospitals. so, and then they began to consider us invaders, the russians we now meet are too different from those we saw before in the soviet era . russia relaxed and the russians became more free in communication with the steel world. in personal communication. unfortunately, we still have political problems. especially these days. but this is a completely different question about the fact that perestroika was not needed, i cannot say this in such fast pace, no need. it would be necessary to
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weigh this clearly. where our country stopped in its development and what paths would be further. he will go down in history in many ways. the man who changed the world first of all, he changed the world. he's already in. yes, he has gone down in history. but i think he understands that he will go down in history as a controversial figure, as a person who is not completely. here he fulfilled his mission. we are ruthless people. we are cruel people, you know, we are the ones who followed him. you see, yes, we are cruel, we do not forgive him anything. although of course, it's clear that i'm saying this with love to him
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, you know, with love, because i love him and i can't hide it and i don't want to hide it, but love is not blind and love is bitter, well, the other part of these the first years of perestroika is that the people immediately felt great great freedom. and i even think that many people were just waiting for her, were not ready for her, and she simply frightened many, somehow it was more convenient to be there. here, where everything is decided for you, where everything will be given to you, everything somehow settled and suddenly here is such an incredible change in everything. by the way, mikhail sergeevich could not ask for this for a long time, as they say it is easy to
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predict the past, but you had to be there and then, which caused the weakening of your country, which was not enough, probably at some point the trust of the people was lost just like this happened in the gdr in czechoslovakia in other socialist states. to what extent did its leaders influence this blow inflicted on the people? it's hard for me to talk about betrayal, but you can to say for sure that this was the end of a certain period when the soviet union really played a key role. as one of the elements of world balance and like no other, the power provided support to the oppressed people of africa, asia and latin america next to you know the person who was the first to understand and take a step in the direction that i compare this person with a big mountain.
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yes, there are many fans around, many comrades, many followers, but still, there is not enough oxygen on the mountain; a split personality is a disease, but bifurcation of politics is a disaster. this is a catastrophe that has befallen ours. why do you think gorbachev is more loved from abroad than in russia well, you, and you yourself, when he led the soviet union, did it get better or worse? now i feel bad and so on. here, in the free, nothing changes to go out to say how the village village life was, and has remained. here are three cows farming is work, but
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then what else is needed. naturally, there are completely different opinions, everyone has it about gorbachev their own, but at least because of the change of generations in russia , there are more and more of those who are not for or against gorbachev. and who are these pros and cons weighing? and this is probably the most. the main thing of all that new, which is only now being revealed, is that before the final portrait of gorbachev, then, probably, he really is. maybe it will be done in 30 years. otherwise, after all 100, we will wait for me, and now it happened. so there is something to wait for, something to discuss.
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in the luhansk people's republic in donetsk, communicating with the wounded, communicating with refugees with children in the brain by heart. this, of course, hits hard in two days. we gave five valuable concerts, invested this one from donbass, we need to win our little line in this, i want to contribute.
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us and ukraine's international obligations on the handling of biological weapons will be the main theme of the upcoming meeting of the countries-participants of the convention on the prohibition of the production and storage of bacteriological and toxin weapons. it will be held in geneva from september 5 to 9, at the initiative of russia, from the data collected by the russian side, said the head of the troops of radiation chemical and biological protection igor kirillov, in close proximity to the borders of the russian federation there are more than 50 biolaboratories modernized at the expense of the pentagon and controlled by it , according to the chinese foreign ministry, under control
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