today we even invited us to come to sakhalin, we are waiting for you. well, everything is more expensive here, first of all. so. eh, this is an obvious fact, then. eh, after all, we don’t have such a population density beyond the ural mountains. a little more than 12 million people live there, uh, and in moscow alone 12 million, so, uh, so this is all explained by hmm uh, economic considerations , pragmatic economic considerations. but, firstly, just now it was mentioned that all these people come here first and second. uh, it develops its own networks. i very much look forward to then, and we will support them in every possible way. and that their development will also, e, favorably affect this area of ​​economic activity. and when we talk about the far east in general, is it possible to argue exclusively in terms of profitable or unprofitable. well, you know, uh in terms of state action and logic. those states,

of course, we must first of all be guided by issues of a strategic nature for the development of the territory e to prevent the population from creating favorable conditions for life, therefore we we provide all these support measures. if necessary, i can list them later, if the question so arises , but uh, but in uh, business it reacts to what to how economic life develops. here you, uh, asked me questions about us. for example, in terms of gas and our relations with consumers in europe, we took more, closed the northern yamal of europe, left the boys. for political reasons, not only, it turns out, the poles bought. our gas is more expensive than the germans, they closed europe on the yamal wire but started buying on the reverse in germany, our bastard is immediately a little cheaper than gazprom, and the germans, receiving the cheapest gas, began to sell the poles a little

more expensive, that's all. this is the basis of this decision, the truth. proceeding from their pragmatic interests, the respective yes companies have harmed their own consumers. why because the volume of our gast in europe has decreased, the price has risen and that's it. lost again. you see, uh, and. well, this is happening everywhere and this is happening everywhere and, but this is not the case in the economy in a different way. be done, but no damage can be done. uh, objectively on the economic law boomerang. everything will come back just as you asked about, uh, limiting the prices of, say, our energy carriers, someone is making some decisions there, an absolutely stupid decision, if someone tries to implement it, to no good for those who make it the decision will not lead, but there are contractual, among other things, all

contractual obligations - supply contracts. and that some decisions of a political nature that are contrary to contracts will be made, but we just won't do it. and we will not deliver anything at all. if this is contrary to our interests, in this case economically, we will not supply gas, oil, coal, fuel oil, we will not exhibit anything. we will fully comply with our contractual obligations. but if someone tries to impose something on us, then i want to note those who impose something on us are not in the position today to dictate their will to us. let them come to their senses, but in the economy it is the same everywhere, including in the domestic economy. and if back, here is the topic that we said we will not deliver anything, as i said outside the framework, we will not do anything imposed. we will be left with only one thing only, as in the well-known russian fairy tale, to sentence a wolf's tail to death. it uh,

they have, by the way, uh. a few decisions and we see what is happening there, so either subsidize high prices and this is bad, because this will not change the behavior of consumers will consume as before. in conditions of deficit, it will either increase or reduce consumption from economic point of view is correct social dangerous, can bring to an explosion is better to adhere to e contractual obligations, relevant rules and civilized relations, but we also act within the country must act in a civilized manner, creating preferences to act carefully. uh steadily step by step. uh, without any leaps uh go economical goals. we are doing just that, and we intend to continue to do so. i

also want to ask a question about the relationship between business and the state. you said on the previous forms that during a crisis, the role of the state is always growing. and i will now give a few examples of 2008. remember, you probably promised to send a doctor to the owners of nothing in 2020, they gave interviews. when you were asked about the fact that you accept businessmen as swindlers by definition, you answered with a quote under this revenge for certain reasons last year before the st. examples of how the state is now builds relationships with big business with businessmen. no need to pull out individual phrases from the general context. the issues that we are discussing, including, i will not comment on what i said, uh, and if i spoke in relation to specific representatives, uh, of the business community, uh, something is

exactly related to this to individual representatives, and not to the entire business community as a whole, and these are my dream business community. in general, russian today demonstrates the highest extent of their responsibility to the party to the homeland before. uh, in front of the citizens of russia here. i want to note this and i want to thank you for it. this is the first, by the way, speaking, many there, uh, i once told them there, you know, that you run into there, uh, protecting your interests. uh, they had something seized there, uh, bills, boats and so on, would have warned about it. it would be better if these boats were kept here, and the money would not be invested in foreign assets, but in the development of russian infrastructure. nothing would be lost. everything would be here at home, and the profits would receive the money set aside. well, this is a lesson for everyone, but who would have thought that they would do such a thing would have warned. well, just not because i'm smarter,

because i have more information. i warned and spoke about this, but many, by the way, speaking, including those sitting in this hall, realizing that there was nothing there, they especially didn’t keep it over the hill. and everything here in the house turned out to be right in fact. so, uh, regarding the entrepreneur, i said, uh, regarding that e. belousov spoke about the fact that someone slapped someone, but, yes, in polemics, you can’t say that, but this once again simply speaks of the correctness of those theses, about which i just said, well , there are certain, certain, uh, certain rules in the economy objectively. they cannot. it's just impossible to neglect, but why did the metallurgist, then, keep prices high? yes, because such a culture has developed in the world markets. well, what can you do about it, they should, naturally. e, answering e to his workers

enterprises of their branches hmm , they did it to achieve maximum profit. it's just that the state had to respond in time to this , apply appropriate market mechanisms and tools in order to limit exports or get it back. were in a variety of ways. they are market. they are well known to everyone, either with the help of customs duties, or they return, which means that this is an excess profit in another way, but e entrepreneurs working in this area, of course, should have known in advance what the state intends and can do in this sense. well, it's just necessary. it's such a thin sphere, a thin fabric. uh, interactions within the economy. there is nothing so terrible here, everything is regulated calmly, uh, and we will do it carefully and you will. and here we are, if we talk about the conditions of mine, so that

they stay here and leave offshore. and now i know what is registered in russian, but this is a question because they are afraid, what is being taken away again or we have created normal good conditions. there is a problem. you are absolutely right there are problems that need to be created, and above all conditions, and above all, this is connected. eh, definitely hopefully. completely and with the right to protect property , you are absolutely right. and uh, a lot of the responsibility here is on the side of the state. as for tourism. yesterday there was a presidium of the state council for tourism, which was held here in vladivostok, and i will ask you to more clearly indicate your position on visas, we have many agreements on visa-free regime with latin american countries and with europe , uh, almost none, with anyone, but, on the contrary , european tourists, it seems to me, could go here , maybe not close, but there with some kind of tourist curtain, but rather let them in. yes, i share your point of view as well, let's

say in the field of energy. uh, we won’t let anyone impose any decisions on us, their hands are short, but uh, but we shouldn’t do anything in this area either, uh, in order to contradict our interests, sergeyevich lavrov will be angry with me, probably because the foreign ministry is still time is mirrored. eh, we spat. we, too must answer with a spit, there and so on. uh, it means, uh, our visas were closed, and we, too, must close our visas to everyone; there is no need to do anything that does not meet our interests. we are interested in the fact that young people come and study with us, yes, well, why close them, we are interested in the business coming here and working. we have, despite all the restrictions from such a lot of businessmen who love russia, trust and want to work here, yes, welcome, please, let them come and work. uh, what limit them so uh, or we have there let's say, well the tutors come to teach our kids. yes, let them come and

work, what's wrong with that? uh, i don't know athletes, for example, are children of art? why are you restricting, we will not, uh, uh, cut off these contacts ourselves. and those who do this, they do not isolate us, but for themselves

yesterday, as i understand it, at the same presidium there was a small dispute about the rostourism for rindoguzova asked that it is possible to strengthen the growth of tourism prime minister dmitry chernyshenko did not agree with this.