this succeeded completely, but not forever, because, well, firstly, almost already in the first three or four years after the war there, the banders were liquidated as an organized force. that is, they were divided into small groups. yes, bandera would have blossomed, there is still an underground in the cities, but they no longer represented themselves as an organized armed force. many people who came to lviv to raise local industry to build a factory or a second factory worth domineering and so on remember lvov as a completely russian city from the mid-fifties and up to e with the rubber of the eighties there doesn’t even smell of nationalism, in general lviv is one of the most loyal cities in ukraine ukraine is the most loyal republic of the union and among the eighties quickly and literally instantaneous revival

of bandera in western ukraine to eradicate this very aggressive nationalism? what miscalculated they were released according to khrushchev’s armenians, which means that, in general, at least, khrushchev is blamed for this, it seemed to him that socialism reforge these people, cleanly. uh, a pragmatic assessment. the fact is that in the village there was a convulsive shortage of workers; the country survived a terrible war, uh, 27 million people died. mostly the villagers absolutely sat quietly at them. no one knew anything before these very tenth places. there are representatives of collective farms chairmen. the cpsu joined the leaders became with the bourgeois fought against nationalism, so then from the visual

eight. they returned to their wonderful past if it were not for these encouragement of national movements in the era of perestroika, that is, and uh, they would have died as worthy members of the cpsu, fighters against bourgeois nationalism, but circumstances arose that, as a result, they were able to return to to their criminal past, when they were told in the eighties that they were heroes, it is somehow heroes. yes, it means originally. ah, the ukrainian government. yes, such seasoned nationalists, who have been dissidents for a long time, who have finally got into power structures. they very strictly divided tried to divide the nationalist movement itself. they are petliurists. they are good, they fought for ukrainian independence. they did n't commit any special crimes there. well, there were jewish pogroms, but and so on a little more. well, so there

is a good bandera bandera with whom they simply served in the upa, which means they were partisans and they fought against everyone and against the germans and against the soviet union in my opinion a glance, absolutely, of course, relatively speaking, and it’s just that, according to ivgalicia, the battalions could not serve everywhere in time for this very thing during the war. but in principle, they were all like-minded people, there and so on, so it means very quickly, this is bandera, it means the western ukrainian masses, who felt that they had become a political force, they pushed their leaders and already yushchenko is not doing it only bandera but also the dry things of the heroes of ukraine and how close is the ideology of bandera to this of the current state nationalist ideology, which stands at the head of ukraine, these judges deal with the same thing. are there no differences there? the

fact is that bandera, yes, this is the late petlyura after the defeat in the civil war. they emigrated to germany and to poland there they created a ukrainian military organization, and then arose on its basis. un it created combat crosses, upa, there and so on. so it is clear that the composition was updated , new people came, but here there is a clear continuity of the petliura generals petliura officers. they then served him, which means they occupied leading positions there, and the ideology of the mind was adopted by, uh, current ukrainian nationalism. uh, as a leader and not by chance, they very quickly came to an excuse. benders are there today, when this is bender's ideology, but in fact, this system of nosification of the whole country has turned into a problem. here are just western ukraine somewhere before there was such a dominant thing, but all of it was not really believed today, in

fact. all ukraine lives in these ideological framework. eh, is it possible to somehow rely on the soviet experience in the fight against this phenomenon, take into account something, somehow use it. well, technically. yes, of course, how they defeated bandera , which means they created a control system in the form of, say, local cells and fighter squads there. so they were armed. these are the locals who resisted bandera, then announced an amnesty when a mission of almost 100,000 people came out of the forest and surrendered, and then these small groups were already getting there on the sly. that's uh technically. this, by the way, to implement. it is possible even now with this desire of necessity. uh, it’s another matter that now it’s politically more difficult to finish off bandera, there was one big one, like ukraine, yes.