is it that the church will be forced to abandon everything that has already been done and achieved in this field. well, a few clarifications at once, we did not change education to the standards of the balloon process, but we received state licensing yes, our seminary, but not licensed, that is, the state recognizes. uh, the education that seminaries get today. but as a state, yes, that is, it recognizes, but we received state recognition and education. this is the first clarification, the second clarification. eh what is in general bologna system bologna system. this is a kind of pan-european educational space, which in our country, er, has not fully worked out . we have introduced individual elements. and by the way, to say, uh, changing a specialty to a bachelor's degree and a master's degree is, well, after all, only one of the signs of the bologna symbolic system cannot be reduced to this. well actually it is. uh, european universities refused to work with us. and well, if you don't want to, don't. yes, that's why,

we will be guided, first of all, by the fact that will occur in general in the educational system in the state. and i also think that where i earned a bachelor's degree with a master's degree. if we are talking about the state now, it will continue to work there, because not everywhere where it has justified itself, where the specialist will be returned to the specialist. by the way, he is present somewhere in the form. today we have not completely moved to this, as far as the church is concerned. there is one more important point here, and we, probably, were not threatened. this is what is common and european educational space, because if we understand that, probably, there is physics of mathematics, something else can be taught more or less the same way. yes, then, of course, prepare the priests of the russian orthodox church for the russian orthodox church. you can only teach here for 26 years at the university of international relations at a university that certainly does not need advertising, let alone presidents, prime ministers of a number of countries, and graduates of this university, so i think i have the right to ask a question.

how do you see the future of secular education after all that's going on right now, the restrictions that our universities and our country in a broader sense have faced, of course, are an unpleasant restriction and they, uh, cannot be justified from any point of view, but i do not think that they are like hmm, it will critically affect the content of our education. another thing is that i generally believe that higher education is both in our country and in the world. it has gone into many dead ends, not the last. turn. i think many will disagree with me. this is due to the fact that she in fact, everything, in general, i remember in my childhood the phrase he has a higher education meant that this person knows how to do it. maybe something that many can't, maybe even most. yes , today you will agree that it is impossible to say so. yes , as competitive advantages, as distinctive characteristics of a person. doesn't work anymore. and,

of course, this is the pursuit of hmm, some may be modern instrumental things. she deprived education of a certain fundamentality. in general, i think that the biggest challenge for universities. today it is professional programs of large corporations, the corporation opens a professional three or six-month program. teach you gives you a certificate and even hires you. why do you need 4 years of study? well, here, why? yes, especially since we are told that the trajectory changes many times , worked for several years, received new certificates, and so on. why then how to answer the question? why study at a university? you need to study at a university not in order to get some professional skills skills, as one remarkable journalist said, are his service dogs, and you need to study at a university in order to touch, among other things, this is how i would formulate world culture at the above school level and under culture. i mean, not literature music painting. yes, they are such a fundamental understanding of what is happening without a generally impossible worldview, as such, in other

words. i believe that a person who has a higher education. if he is a techie, then he not only needs to have such a date, but also part of divine comedy and understand it. it was called at first a comedy, what does it mean and who called it divine, and if he is a humanist, then he should be able to. at the same time, to explain how the general theory of relativity differs from the special one, if he cannot do this, i would not be in a hurry to say that he has a higher education. any of your comments vladimir romanovich is perceived one way or another. uh, how opinions are identical or similar to the opinion of his holiness with the patriarch with the opinion of the patriarch of the moscow all rusi kirill so i would like to ask you to comment. here is the statement of the patriarch at the meeting of the holy synod on august 25, in short, he said the following: turbulent times have come in the expanses of holy russia. here, specify where, according to the roc , the borders of this fatherland of the russian orthodox church are now and have they changed after

february 24? well, i don’t know, in general, how much we can talk about the borders of the church. we can talk about state borders, the church has always respected state borders, but never built on his a pastoral ministry, focusing on the borders of the church, the canonical space of the canonical territory of the russian orthodox church. the area of ​​her pastoral responsibility includes 16 countries, and in other countries, in addition to this, there are parishes of the russian orthodox church. and of course, the church, together with all people, is experiencing today. this is a difficult tragic time, and and, and prays for the world that should. it is natural to finish what started a few months ago, as we understand very well and this is important emphasize and this world must restore justice, because the patriarch did a lot to prevent the division of that

church schism. i think, of course, you mean him, uh, which happened long before the start of a special military operation in ukraine, uh, and the patriarch, uh, talked with a bunch of yushchenkos. in general, you definitely can’t reproach that certain steps were not taken to prevent this separation. here are some private conversations. he shared with you. how predictable is he? was what happened next, whether it was inevitable or some other opinion he had on this matter. see, private conversations. that's why they are private. yes, what they say remains. uh, between those people who are discussing this, but the situation, and in ukraine the situation is with religious division. she goes back to her roots. in general, e on a few centuries ago, a and, a, the prerequisites are historical e, the prerequisites for the reasons and the historical context are centuries old for this. well,

then, of course, this is the beginning of the nineties the emergence of the so-called, and the kiev patriarchate. and that was the result, on the one hand, of personal ambitions and human political ambitions, and in general, then there was already an entry onto this very dangerous road, when, uh, the religious factor a is being played and used in politics. in general, it is very dangerous for society and for religion for everything. and of course, what happened, then, under president poroshenko, when a, in fact, this was done completely, in my opinion, openly and clearly, when, in general, a, his company for re-elections, a the president of ukraine a turned on this religious factor in her and hoped that this would help him defeat him; this did not help the religious situation in ukraine, this did not resolve it. it only aggravated it on constantinople, with such a rude, non-canonical intervention, and therefore, of course, but we understood that this was a possible

development. but as you quite rightly said, the russian church did everything, and what depended on it to try to stop it there, i think that with what to reproach myself? although, probably always, uh, well, being people who are critical , yes, probably, in the depths of their souls, everyone thinks about their work. so, maybe we haven’t done something somewhere, as we could have done for a certain time, of course, the church card, it is one of the trump cards in the political arena and it means on the table of the game and europe and to the latest events and statements. uh, the president of latvia introduced amendments to the parliament on the separation of the latvian orthodox church from the moscow patriarchate. it’s literally these days that fate is decided, and parishes, and possession in other words, uh, the way back, this process no longer exists. and what does it mean? from an economic point of view, this does not mean anything , this is absurd nonsense, because it contradicts

the constitution of latvia, which says that the church is separated from the states. how can the state, from which the church is separated from, determine a canon? the status is not the legal status of the church economic yes, because these amendments, but the latvian state. we actually proclaimed the autocephaly of the latvian church, that is, even ukraine did not go for it, resorted to non-canonical, but still the intervention of the church structure, and the patriarchate of constantinople. and this is just a state. and sorry for the stylistic reduction did not bother. yes, we ourselves, but hmm, let's give it historically. the explanations that the president tried to present when he introduced them, such as corrections, can only be called pseudo-historical. there are factual errors there. there are such free interpretations of the past that, in general, they do not hold water. and my colleagues. appropriate explanations have been made. well, i repeat canonically. it don't mean nothing the state don't can do this is another matter, which, unfortunately,

apparently, the church is under such pressure from the latvian church. what are they unlikely to do? well , we don't know yet. that's just reproduced now being decided. it is precisely in these days that there will be some kind of official official reaction of the church there. well, we'll see what happens after that. here we are talking about the fact that the borders of the church do not coincide with the state borders, that is, these contour maps are not identical, but the fact is that the russian orthodox the church is united by the church slavonic language, and for 8 years the inhabitants of donbass have been subjected to harassment for the mere fact that they speak russian , and what is the fate of our common language of church slavonic, it will remain a single language, what is the fate of the church slavonic language - this is the liturgical language , it was never spoken. this is the language in which the church prays. and i don't think there are any. here are the threats from this point of view. at least with this one,

yes, that is, this church continues to pray and on church slavonic, you think it will not come to the point that the sacrament will be performed in in their languages. well, there is such a topic, in general, in the discourse. as it is now fashionable to say. here she is the subject. and discussions, uh, as we know catholics. eh, they abandoned, for example, the latin language, which was the language of worship. well, at the same time, you can listen in latin, if you say so to her desires, but they switched to national languages, and i personally think that of course hmm but the preservation of the liturgical language as a special language this is very important. and here's the whole argument about what is incomprehensible and so on, it is very weak and unconvincing. we study languages ​​there, both literally and figuratively, when we want to comprehend some phenomenon, we begin by studying the language of this visual phenomenon. there verbal and so on. well, and then uh, one wonderful person. he

once told me, but i don’t want to pray in the same language that they swear in, so this is also. such maybe not a theological argument on the human is very interesting, well, from inside ecclesiastical topics e to the topic of just the relationship of the church with society, according to your direct profile, the roc created not so long ago a special commission on bioethics, it was headed by the rector of the st. well, here's another on the site between the cathedral presence and the topic of artificial intelligence, the moral aspects of robotics, was discussed. there's a whole list of others out there, that the church is clearly in step with the times here. what challenges does the church see today in general? but in this very complex very general vast field of bioethics and everything that happens. i 'll start with what you know, i have such a favorite phrase, if the church does not keep up with the

times, then so much the worse for the time, because time can lead us to different dead ends in different ways and sometimes. it's good that the church doesn't keep up with the times. in this case, the church is simply reacting to what is burning and important. yes, the beginning of this is such a theological, comprehension was laid, of course, by the foundations of the social concept. this is such a fundamental the document, which refers to the relationship of the church to society, well, to a number of problems, the document is 22 years old, and it is not for nothing that it is called the foundations of a social concept. yes, that is, it is not closed. there are not all, so to speak, dotted and dotted, because new topics appear. hmm, new questions appear that need to be answered and theological understanding. this is very important, because it makes our picture of the world more complicated, deeper, more interesting, if you like, but here we are really. here bioethical problems are problems that concern such well fundamental things. and who

is a person, what can we do with a person. and what is still much better for us not to go, and they are not so easily resolved, of course, but even here in theological. ah, you don’t need to think that the church has such an easy instant, it is able to answer any question, but it’s very important that it ’s like this, that such a discussion of comprehension takes place. well, you can see for yourself, the biggest challenges from the biggest threats coming from what area of ​​modern science of biology is genetics, ai this is not in this case, i agree, including with the scientists who talk about this. and this is any , you understand, firstly, we cannot do anything to scientists. it is impossible to forbid it, of course, that there are laws and so on, but they will always do this, and yes, and thank god that science is developing. it is a science in general historical originated in the christian european civilization. and this, again, i repeat

a historical fact, and very cool. and that with the help of science we can make a person’s life better, but as the ancient christians said, everything is here on the scales of abuse abuse. but the church is about this, that it helps us scientifically, which really makes life better. and where do we invade some areas that can, well, it will end catastrophically for a person and they talk about it, not only the people of the church, in general, philosophers think about it, but also theologians, including, i remember that when i only here she stood opposite churching and talked with priests. in general, it was considered indecent even to discuss such topics as, for example, memorize words like eco in vitro fertilization. ah, but uh, here, too, the church keeps up with the times, because it is for those who do not know, correct me, if not right, now the priests bless the blessing, no,

the decision is not at all churchly there is a discussion there are individual cases. and when the shepherd makes a decision and takes responsibility, yes, as a confessor, knowing the situation in the family. well, there are nuances. yes, because ko can also be realized in different ways of this kind, if as a result of this process of fertilization, the embryos of a married couple who are legally married are not killed, if this is not a surrogate mother, if this is the birth mother of the child, then the priest, maybe it was. well , some priests. they bless, yes, but i repeat there are different positions in the church. it is also fair to say that there are people who have different attitudes to this. it seems to me that it is very important here in this discussion that the impression is not formed; sometimes it can, probably, develop in such a way that the church somehow does not show mercy compassion for people, because many people who decide to do this, uh, women are men

of the family. yes, these are people with weeping eyes. and here, when they come, no matter what position we take, it is very important that uh. they always stood next to him so that he would not stand, on the contrary, and would not point out with a condemning finger there. i hope that this is not the case, or almost none, there are probably different situations. but this is the most. the main thing is that people should know that this is a place where anyone will always meet you, here, where they will always show you suffering will manifest mercy and anyone will accept you, because this is how christ bequeathed to us and we can not act differently in our country , women with weepy eyes sit in the same consultations where women sign up for an abortion under compulsory medical insurance well, for a believer. really. this is wildness wildness. yes, and the patriarch, i did a lot on the sites and the federation council of the state duma to convey. ah, my position that this situation needs to be stopped. why this question

does not budge is a long-term discussion with us goes with government officials on this topic. and i would not say that it is unproductive, but there really is no solution to the end. i have no explanation, we hear some arguments, and some of them, well, repeatedly. eh, so to speak, offered the contours of the arguments the movement is going in this direction, but here is the very moment e, our our proposal to the church rightly said, and the withdrawal of abortion from e. the compulsory health insurance fund does not find support, but we do not give up, we hope that the issue will still be resolved. well, vladimir ivanovich’s conclusion, i can’t help but ask about the fate of our parishes abroad, and hmm, the previous head of the department for external church relations of the russian orthodox church, metropolitan. the interview said less than once how he felt when he took office, he felt like the foreign minister of the church. and in recent years, more like a minister of defense . the fact is that vladyka anthony will now have a very

difficult period. here in the current context. what challenges does it already face in the first months in this position and indeed what is happening now with our parishes. let's say in europe well, firstly, i would probably say that, uh, as vladyka ion a, a very high- level professional. similarly, metropolitan anthony is certainly a very professional person who knows this area very well, and also because he himself spent several years, er, in italy and served, and it was wonderful there. well, what is called at your fingertips. eh, everything. it knows, feels, understands , is highly respected, and representatives of various religious organizations of state structures. he is well known, but the situation is not easy. but you know, as far as i understand, as far as i know the information, today i manage to hmm while hmm to save. this is

probably the most. the main thing is, despite all the difficulties, to keep peace in the parishes. uh, where it is, uh, theoretically could be a problem. but this, of course, uh, well, not just, uh, also due to the fact that we understand what today is, uh, let's say european media yes, where i simply communicate with colleagues, including our graduates who work in embassies. they say, uh, well, they only read about it in books, it’s so impossible without an alternative position, you can’t say anything at all where you can doubt it. here in that mouthpiece, so to speak, by propaganda, which, so to speak, identifies there. russian garden and so on, and in this sense, of course, not just this colossal moral pressure on the parish written by the russian orthodox church. bye then copes many thanks vladimir romanovich answered our questions. gel is the right choice

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