we strongly disagree with what mr. steinmeier said, they welcome our presence at the assembly and are glad that we are there. eh, moreover, among such people who approached us were representatives of the german churches, who generally said, you do not listen to our president. he said some nonsense, uh, and we categorically disagree with him. from the soviet state, both in our country and in germany, uh. on the basis of what president steinmeier, in general, in connection with what he was at this event, you know, if such a speech were made from the lips of some mummery ukrainian schismatic? which by the way were also present in this hall? well, this could probably be understood, but when it says, uh, the head of state. uh, i think this is totally unacceptable and right after uh hmm the day was over, i made a comment to the media and said that we certainly consider any attempt to put this kind of pressure on religious

organizations absolutely unacceptable what kind of document was accepted as a result general assembly, following the results of the general assembly, a large package of documents was adopted, but including a document was adopted that relates to the current situation in ukraine, we took part in the discussion of the draft of this document, a draft was prepared, a number of significant proposals that the russian orthodox church made were taken into account. i will give one example. e, in this document it was clearly stated that the current situation in ukraine did not begin on february 24 of this year, but eight years ago e was mentioned about that because of the difficult situation in which donetsk lugansk has been for all these years, what i consider to be fundamental was the exclusion of e wording from the document that was frankly russophobic in nature. and who represented the ukrainian delegation, that is, it turns out there was, uh, the economic church and schismatics, and how it was in general from ukraine they felt there as

invited persons. they were not in the truest sense of the word the delegates of the assembly, they were not its participants, but for all that, uh hmm for example, uh hmm the representative of the ukrainian raskolnikov so called the orthodox church of ukraine which was very active, by the way, mr. stein meyer whom we once again are with you. now we mention after he left the stands. he had a separate meeting with them, and they spoke very aggressively about both the russian orthodox church and the russian state in the secular world. well, at the moment, the division between russian ukrainians is final. and what is happening in the church space, and are there any temples where russian ukrainians of different political beliefs, i emphasize, but together they stand together, take communion from the same bowl. such temples, i think, for the most part are located in the far abroad. and this topic is very familiar and close to me, because i myself

have served abroad for 5 years as a parish priest in italy and for the last 7 years. i helped with the coolest patriarch in the management of our foreign dioceses and parishes, i can tell you that in the far abroad the picture is like a mirror, the number of parishioners in the vast majority of our churches has increased many times over due to the fact that, first of all, many refugees come to european countries who come to our churches to the churches of the russian orthodox church. uh, pray. and it doesn't cause any problems for them. just recently i was at one foreign parish, where i talked with a woman who had just arrived from ukraine from one of the liberated regions, her husband stayed there, he worked for the ukrainian administration at one time. spouse. i was able to leave husband stayed. she came to our temple, the temple of the moscow patriarchate. she was in worship.

and, of course, she came up to me after the service and told me about how she was going through, but this does not prevent russians and ukrainians who hold different political views of different beliefs from coming to the temple and praying to god, and i think that this is it. well, actually, perhaps, the main asset of our church. we are all so different from different nationalities. we speak different languages, we hold different political beliefs, but we come to church because we have one christ, one faith, one baptism, one eucharist. and of course, when people come to the temple. uh, even in such temples as, for example, i will cite as an illustration of our cathedral in paris, which is not only the cathedral church of the karsun diocese, but the russian spiritual and cultural center on its territory , the russian flag is developing. a huge number of people come there, including there are a lot of ukrainians there. uh, no one ever asks them. what are your views on what is happening in the world today?

political processes. what beliefs do you hold, of course the doors of the temple are open to everyone and moreover, in the temple we don't talk about politics. i always told my parishioners about this. in rome, by the way, in rome our temple is located on the territory of the russian embassy , ​​people who come to this temple. they are aware that they are entering the territory of a russian diplomatic institution. i always said, my dear ones, here we are outside the temple. there is a pizzeria. you can talk about anything there. and now, when you came to church, let's talk about god and already talk about politics. they always remain outside the gate. unfortunately. i think that's our days. they understand well. what is the potential in the church, the unifying potential is laid down, and that is why they have directed their efforts today, among other things, to contribute to the undermining of various aspects of church life. here on june 17, it seems to me, an important one took place, but the broadcast, which the secular media somehow missed out on. the fact is that they met on the internet

two priests father pavel ostrovsky from the russian orthodox church and a priest of the odessa diocese. at the patient. his name is maximilian pogorelovskiy and many other things. they discussed they discussed both the split and the councils in such a fall and a special war operation and gave each other the opportunity to speak to the end. nobody attacked anyone. it seems to me that the very fact that this dialogue took place is very important. are there many such desperate priests there in ukraine to conduct such broadcasts and not be afraid to openly enter into a dialogue with a priest of moscow patriarchy. i am sure that he continues to have a private dialogue, of course, a private matter continues, and just recently, while in europe, i met with several priests who came from ukraine. we served together. we certainly talked after the service. nobody spoke quite openly, of course, they did not attack anyone, these contacts remain and continue. but any of their publicity, it is today for the priests of the everlasting of their church, who are lagging behind

the canonical church in ukraine, well, unfortunately, it is fraught with a number of difficulties and for them and for their family members. eh, and this should be taken into account the other day called on the russians. to spiritual mobilization for the sake of reconciliation with ukraine is a quote where they announce partial mobilization in russia on september 21st. the patriarch urged not to consider ukrainians as enemies if a parishioner comes to you or to any other priest of the moscow patriarchate and asks how the church formulates its goals, what the priests answer. well, the goals and objectives of the special military operation were formulated by the president of our country vladimir vladimirovich putin in his address of 24 february. and, of course, lighting. e. hmm, that's not their job. e speak on these topics priests in this particular situation. rather, they answer for themselves the question of what the

church and what each of them as a clergyman can do for people, uh, who in one way or another were involved in that difficult situation as witnesses that we are and believe our thoughts and most importantly our actions. again, i can talk about this in the context of the life of our diocese parishes in the far abroad, they are today no, first of all about how we can help those people who are coming today. and our temples come from ukraine. uh, for this, under the personal supervision and with the personal blessing of his holiness patriarch kirill, a variety of initiative projects are being implemented today, related both to the delivery of humanitarian aid, related to, uh, help to refugees who come to our churches today knocking on our doors asking for help. and, of course, the church does what it first of all should do, how the church does not pray for the world. we are for every liturgy in all our churches. from america to australia we pray for

peace. and, of course, we hope that the lord will hear our prayers. it's yours. the first interview in the position of chairman of the department for external church relations and the position you have been occupying relatively recently for only a few months. and i think you know that in the secular media this permutation of rockers. what is called almost the loudest in the modern history of the russian orthodox church? why do you think the choice in this difficult time 2022 after the church split against the backdrop of a special military operation? well, and many other events, and to head such a department of the ministry of foreign affairs, in fact, the roc fell precisely on you, it’s a little difficult for me to answer such a personal question, because i was not present at that meeting of the holy synod at which it was made, this decision, but i can to say that i am not a new person in these walls.

uh, i came here as a very young man, and just after graduating from the spiritual academy, i was appointed as the personal secretary of the then chairman of the department metropolitan kirill, our current networking patriarch. i worked in the department for several years and already then got acquainted with its work with its agenda, as they say now, and since 2011, when i went on my first foreign business trip to rome, i became involved in the sphere of external church activity one way or another, uh, doing, uh, pastoral work in italy, at the same time, uh, i served and lived a 10-minute walk from the vatican and, of course, uh, the clergy trusted me, uh, certain duties related to dialogue between the russian orthodox and the roman catholic church, and then for the last 7 years, when i headed the department for foreign institutions, which, by a recent decision of the synod, was incorporated into the department for external church relations. i traveled a lot. i have visited more than six. states and i know well the life

of our parishes, whether we like it or not, it is inseparable from our external activities, because a priest serving in a particular country certainly has contacts from representatives of other orthodox churches and glorious churches with authorities and one way or another, uh, along with uh, vladyka larion, my predecessor. i was involved in this subject. and now that this appointment has taken place. i've been working in this building for the last 7 years and, uh, i have an idea, maybe not a complete picture. it is she who is now going into something unified, but they have an understanding of what is happening today, what we need to do in order to protect the interests of the church on its outer border. that's why, perhaps, my entry into the position, it was not so painful for me either, and what is important for the department, which continued its work and, in fact, its team was fully preserved even on the news, but on september 8. seven latvia approved. uh, the so-called

autocephaly of the latvian orthodox church, which is, for those who don't know, a self-governing orthodox church within the moscow patriarchate. we understand that the political baltics have long since separated from the russian federation, and, as in recent years, things were going on with the so-called ecclesiastical baltic states. well, to answer your questions, it's probably worth remembering, first of all, the situation in estonia uh, c. in the nineties, now the last century, when, with the active participation of the estonian state, it happened, the emergence of the patriarchate of constantinople on the territory of estonia actually happened. uh, serious church splits. e, already then significantly, complicating relations between the russian orthodox church and constantinople. now we are witnessing what is happening in latvia and i will i can honestly say that if we, uh, weren’t talking to you now at such a kind of tape time, i

would think that this news that the political leadership of latvia, uh, is taking some steps to grant latvian autocephaly church that this is some kind of bad joke, but unfortunately it's true and uh. this, of course, is an absolutely unprecedented example of the grossest interference of state power in the affairs of the church. uh, the church lives by its own rules, by its own rules, which are many hundreds of years old. and, of course, the procedure for granting autocephaly, it is also regulated, uh, role. uh, in this case the latvian state is in the process. it is completely inappropriate, we know that, as if the other day, the department for external church relations, where we are located, should receive an appeal from the ministry of justice of latvia, e, with a demand to grant autocephaly to the latvian church, but so far we have not received such an appeal, if it does , of course. uh, this will put us in some kind of awkward position, because in theory

autocephaly is given to the petitioner. and i don't think that the ministry of justice needs some kind of toms indicating that this ministry is independent of the moscow patriarchy. but all that is happening today in countries that are so proud of their democracy and respect for rights. century, and one of the most important rights of any person is freedom of religion - this, of course, is some kind of surrealism. and i'm sorry, i'll say i can hardly imagine this, but if suddenly something similar, at least some hint of it had would be a place in russia here we were talking about the assembly of the world council of churches, if something like this were in moscow and would come, suddenly our president, who would speak from the rostrum, would say, here you are, dear religious leaders, should condemn this to support, of course, the president would never have done such a thing, but if this happened, i think that there would be noise in the media. eh, a lot. but the president of germany, the president of

latvia, uh, well, the president of ukraine, poroshenko, who , uh, created the so-called kiss and then with tomos, e on autocephaly and the patriarch issued to him in flamy, thomas made a whole tour, as he was baptized in the media. it was a frank intervention of the state in the affairs of the church. it is possible and their behavior. it is approved by western society. you personally know pope francis of rome repeatedly met with him for many years lived in rome what kind of relations do we have with catholics in the russian orthodox church and is there any prospect of a meeting between pope francis and patriarch kirill in the foreseeable future we are like uh churches representing the majority of christians in the world, we can do a lot together, responding to the challenges that the modern world poses to us. uh, and this dialogue developed very beneficially. you know that in 2016, the first ever meeting with the patriarch of moscow and all

russia kirill and pope francis took place in harbor in cuba, i was one of the witnesses. and then this meeting. i accompanied his holiness the patriarch and was very glad that this meeting took place and that a wonderful document was adopted as a result of it. joint appeal of two primates. lately, unfortunately, uh. hmm, i have to say that our relationship is practically frozen. and after the, er, special military operations began in march, a conversation took place between his holiness patriarch kirill and pope francis through a remote connection , this conversation was forced. eh, as far as i know. i was not a member of it, the benevolent nature has passed, it is warm enough in a way, but after a while. we read the interview with great surprise. uh, some the media. where is he. well, i'm sorry, i'm not afraid of this word caricatured retold this meeting. uh, made an expression

that in my opinion absolutely did not call me in this context and informed me that the meeting would not take place. and that, in general, he will not go anywhere. after that, there were no contacts for organizing a new meeting for a long time, even when i took over as chairman of the department. i read in some comments in the press. and this is also a problem. for some reason we've been lately catholics communicate mostly through the press. we get some news through the media from the vatican . i read that pope francis, who was invited along with the patriarch, was invited to kazakhstan in september of this year to participate in the congress of the leaders of the world's traditional religions, that he is going to meet there with his holiness the patriarch, and since in august. uh, this year i was in rome. i told my acquaintances in the vatican that i would be

there. i got an invitation from my dad come and talk to him. first time. here in my new position. i came to this meeting, and we in particular. i could say we talked about it. uh, the possibility of organizing a new meeting and maybe uh about kazakhstan as an appropriate place, but came to the understanding that such a meeting is still a historical event. it cannot take place on the sidelines of some event, even such a solid and respected one as a congress in kazakhstan, but in addition, this meeting must still be prepared, and it must have some kind of result, and since such a study was not carried out , there was very little time left. we agreed that if there is a second meeting, then it needs to be carefully prepared to decide on the place and time. at this stage, i have to say that some of the comments and statements that we are reading. uh, and we hear from the lips of e not only the pope , but even most of his assistants. they absolutely do not contribute to the preparation of this meeting

and do not contribute to our further cooperation. here's one of those faces, vatica nobody directly responsible for promoting christian unity. this is the name of the papal council, which this man is chaired by cardinal kurt koch for the first time. well, at least in my memory, when the catholic cardinal begins to comment. uh, inside the orthodox situation is a delicate area, relationships between locals and churches, which, as you know, is also a very difficult topic today and it is very strange to me, because i, uh, as you noted. i lived in europe and uh, lived in the heart of the catholic peace. to be honest, i also know something about the problems that the catholic church is facing today in the same germany in other countries, but i have never allowed myself to make any public statements about this. you understand that these problems are, well, a disaster for the catholic church itself, it is trying to cope with them, is there a threat of international isolation for the roc, in your opinion today? i do not rule out that some hmm unfriendly countries

may take some action to restrict our activities abroad, but of course, about no isolation, but under isolation. i can understand emptying temples. uh, the exodus of believers. eh, the decline of church life is out of the question. we have not yet come across any examples of forcible restrictions on our ministry that we carry in various countries , and i can say that in each country the situation is different, different legal circumstances, different forms, e.g. the activities of our church and registration again. well, we haven't encountered any direct opposition yet. well, except maybe, here, uh, latvia, which we mentioned. so, of course, i am convinced that there is no true isolation in the sense in which i said above ours. and no threat, thank you very much. vladyka that answered our questions. thank you very much. oh,

the answer is already more fun in the war. the main thing is to stay alive protect your republic, your home, don't get tired of physically storming, maybe not morally tired, a referendum - it's good, let's unite even more and victory will come sooner. well this is the one the smallest part that you can participate in the great and bright work that the guys are doing now. the essence of the culture of art in general, what can it do before us touched us so much in order to simply understand that we arrived and we are and we just touched us as a whole, like a talisman. dear friends, who we shot almost 30 years

ago, i thought that they should probably talk about painting, that is, the idea arose to try to hear what the artist could hear when he painted a portrait or landscape? to me it seems it makes sense to recall who all the same is, russian culture, in particular, yes, russian painting, which is the time of the world. perm was. maybe i'm not human either.

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