always delicious and 100% natural, because they are made from quality milk with love and care. buy cheaper prospect is an opportunity to see the new in the old, and so that the prospects become a reality. use a rollsib credit card and don't worry about interest. issue a credit card for 120 days without interest and get a year of free service. uralsib perspectives where you are. hello ekaterina gracheva every weekend we interview representatives of the russian orthodox church, we discuss current news that has occurred over the past 7 days in russia and in the world. today our guest is archpriest maxim kozlov, chairman of the roc educational committee, father maxim hello, i know that when the partial mobilization was announced among the priests, there were certain fears that they might fall under it.

uh, students of theological academies and seminaries. for example, correspondence students. what is the situation now whether they were summoned. do you follow the fate of your students, indeed the original edition mobilization decree, but gave rise to such fears, because it was only about students of state universities, but shortly before our meeting on october 5, the changes that were made to the decree by the president of the russian federation, and they included students of non-state universities with accreditation state and students of religious educational institutions. so we can say that today our students, and this is a little more than 8,000 people, are under protection, and today's edition of the decree for which, of course, we are

grateful. and this is important, because a clergyman, but a future and current one, does not have the right to take up arms with the intent to kill. he e can protect and must protect his homeland, in another way, historically, the priesthood has always been present on a in the fronts of a difficult time, but on the purpose of spiritual support for soldiers, and not personal participation in hostilities. in the case of subpoenas , there were not so many on ours, but 42 higher theological educational institutions for the theory of russia, their there were about 20 cases, but in fact in all situations, uh, the provision of documents stating that he was a student of a theological educational institution of the russian church helped to solve the situation. uh, and they're back to school. now you are talking about

the priests who were present at the fronts. uh, the so-called chapels now. uh, how is work with the ministry of defense if there are such volunteers well, for example, even in the environment, but students. well, as for the priesthood itself, this is what we have a special department for interaction with the armed forces, which already have accumulated experience of cooperation with the ministry of defense. and now the presence of the clergy at the time of dispatch has been expanded, and those mobilized and to the places of service to the places. ah. i am not undergoing military training. and, as for our students, e there is no evidence that they were asked to leave from religious educational institutions, and to the hmm front or e in places where future military men are trained, but for reasons, about

which i have already said, above all of them vocation. this calling is a pastoral calling clergyman. and i think that their important task now is to learn properly and later, if circumstances require. then turn out to be a priest where the church and the motherland will need it, including in the war zone due to the position you hold. yes , it would be more logical to talk mainly about spiritual education, but i still want to touch on a wider range of topics and i can’t help but ask how you think the church can help young people in the new territories annexed to the russian federation zaporozhye dnr lnr. how to maintain spiritual balance in these territories now? it seems to me, and most importantly, what we can do is show our openness and a show that they are our own.

and not a. so that those young people who want to study, uh, whether in states, whether in spiritual training institutions so that they get such opportunities. traditionally, in previous years, we always had a certain part of the abaterates who came from the donetsk and lugansk republics at that time, and from other territories of ukraine and a. they studied and are studying ours in their higher spiritual educational institutions . and so, it was possible to avoid any conflicts and confrontations. here is the experience that a in other respects divided people, once in the theological school, can feel themselves e

not enemies, but brothers. it seems to me very important. well, from the news i can’t, of course, ask you to comment. uh, the patriarch fell ill with the coronavirus, how his illness proceeds by the grace of god in a mild form, and we hope that in the very near future the most holy patriarch will fully recover and return to, uh, he never interrupted the fullness of his own ministry, but only communication was limited with the outside world. well , prescribed by the appropriate medical, and recommendations, the patriarch worked, worked, prayed and prays, but i also believe that the prayer of the church. uh, contributed to the disease. well , maybe a mild form, uh, leaked and leaked. this is a luminous one this year, and to you , one more holy patriarch has been added to your duties, who, a hmm, told them to me and other

persons who were appointed to certain responsible positions, and look closely for the first year and not rush to change, but try to understand the spirit and structure of the institution to which you are appointed , and therefore the main task of each new rector of the university is, first of all, to preserve what is good, what was done under his e, predecessor or predecessors, and in this sense, of course, made now, a by the metropolitan of budapest and the hungarian within the walls of the general church doctoral postgraduate school. this is a lot. this is actually an established institution of higher education, which consists of both levels of master's and postgraduate studies, and at which there is a doctoral program, that is, an institution that helps people working on doctoral

dissertations and prepare them in the most successful way. that is, in essence. we are different from seminary academy, and others of our church so that our main task is not actually training to become a pastor. ordained clergy often come to serve us , and the training of teaching staff. those who will work in church science are those who will work in certain areas. eh, church administration, the russian orthodox church has done a lot in recent years in order to meet the criteria of the bologna educational system. and what do you think, the rejection of everything already achieved and rejection of the bologna system. he's totally justified. they don't fully understand. what do we mean when we talk about a balloon system. it has become like this now. uh, a terrible phrase, by which hmm

means everything bad. and those who oppose are fighting for all that is good when it comes to mutual recognition. e level of education in different e, universities in different countries, then the relevance of this mutual. knowledge now, frankly, has somewhat decreased in the current political world context. if we are talking about the levels of education, bachelor's degree, master's degree, postgraduate studies, then, at least in relation to the humanities , which we refer to theology certainly do not see it. eh, something bad bachelor's degree gives a basic basic education, but let's say we have a unified curriculum in spiritual seminars, and with a certain variability common to all higher theological educational institutions, like a master's degree, they give specialization in relation to our field. it can be, uh,

the study of the biblical disciplines of theology , church history pedagogy, and religious philosophical thought, social doctrine, and so on graduate school - this is actually the training of scientific personnel of the highest, and qualifications. and in this sense, it is important not to throw out, but along with the water and the child, but, as it were, a steam room with the recent past, which many see in such a critical light, but it is important not to get sick. ah, once again, an ailment that you are peculiar to higher russian education, but an endless chain of reforms and transformations. what i want most of all is not a rejection of the bologna system, but a moratorium on reform. there for 5 years and in higher russian education there was a ban on transformation, so that universities were left to live, study and

educate in peace. here are mathematicians to philosophers. here, and from human beings to theologians. everyone would say, thank you so much. and if such a decision would be made. are there many who want to receive a spiritual education in russia now? and how this demand is distributed on the map of russia what is happening in million-plus cities, what is happening in smaller settlements. literally before our broadcast. uh, i asked not to prepared data on the results of this year's introductory campaign this year, more than one and a half thousand people entered the theological educational institution of the russian orthodox church at the initial stage of the bachelor's degree, one thousand 68 people, to be precise in terms of the numbers that we have a lot or a little in general, a the number of applicants in the last 3-5 years is stable. it

may vary from region to region. it may increase in some areas and not be very satisfying to us in others, but the general trend surely it is. the larger the city the higher the educational level of the inhabitants there, the more young people there, the more intense and brighter the enrollment in a higher theological educational institution, but because this is the kind of a significant trend in church life as a whole now, but the most intense, and live bright interesting church life is concentrated in large cities, the larger the city, the more there are mmm youth in temples. well , the second trend. she i think all-russian.

she's probably kind of calling. we have three god like almost everything in our country, most of our universities are concentrated, and in its western part, up to the urals, inclusive. er, and, of course, the situation in particular in eastern siberia in the far east in the north is not so optimistic. we have a few higher spiritual institutions there in yakutsk, khabarovsk, barnaul, the barnaul seminary, by the way, has state accreditation, but i think that this is a problem. not only a common russian church problem, but the fact that young people connect their future with e, the far east and eastern siberian regions. some time ago. we actively discussed the topic of introduction in schools. well, the subject of the fundamentals of religious culture and

secular ethics, if i'm not mistaken. in general, this initiative belonged to me. i remember that it was from the time when dmitry medvedev was still president, then everything somehow died out a little . this is this experiment. although i held it in my hands, even the textbooks are illustrated there. in general, everything was ready to launch it. what is the fate now. here in this subject, how this experiment was a success or not. everything is a little more optimistic. uh, what you just imagined, but nevertheless, as good as we would like, namely in the fourth grade, but in all russian schools. at parents. there is a choice, and between, say, the main orthodox culture, and the foundations of world e, religions and secular ethics, and other similar, but subjects, and by choice, i repeat the family, but this one lesson in the fourth grade, of course, is better than

nothing, but and it’s just better than nothing repeatedly already, uh, representatives of other traditional religions set the hierarchy of our church the question of a in one form or another, let's say at the next levels and levels of education in secondary school. one way or another, it was reproduced either in a row for several years or, let's say , at a different age level when moving to high school there or at the end of high school already. but here, there is no effective promotion of e yet. i understand the concerns. i understand, perhaps, as if a profanity of a very important topic a and in what sense hmm can even be the negative consequences of remembering that and b. e. russian empire teaching law of god in the gymnasiums. always led to the piety of the

disciples and that the law of god, handed over, in particular. sasha volodya ulyana, this did not quite lead to them , the right-creators of the orthodox worldview. to put it bluntly, there are risks here too, but on the other hand, there is also the opposite risk, religious ignorance is a field for extremism. this is a field for the use of religion, and for hmm exacerbation of interethnic relations, and therefore you need to find that middle royal path, how, on the one hand, and not to profanity. this is very a delicate area and on the other hand do not get away with abandoning the problems that need to be addressed. do you agree with age? when should this subject be taught? so, when i studied at the university , we had the mgimo subject of religion and the audience was full of this subject, but this is partly due to that. those were very strong professors who taught religious studies, well,

really interesting for such a multi-confessional audience, like mgimo. and i'm not sure if uh read something like that, like a course e for fourth graders, yes, but they can perceive it correctly in general, it can even discourage the desire to go to the temple, or, uh, you would argue here. you are right at the beginning said that, in fact, is the key problem here, and it's not even so much about age. how many in who will teach it? oh yes, mgimo and the central university is an opportunity to attract the brightest eh teachers who can cope with the tasks that will attract students regional schools in the district center e, moscow state university, st. petersburg university, and novosibirsk university of the higher

school of economics, can not always afford him. and other leading russian universities , of course, can afford to attract such bright personalities of teachers, professors of scientists, and who will find their way to the heart and godmothers of students, leading schools, and also, probably, they will attract, and those teachers who will be able to talk with children of different ages in an understandable language. will it work in the ordinary school of the district center and the fact? but here it seems to me, and we in part, at least they can help modern technologies, which not only bring us, hmm, troubles and problems distance education, the ability to communicate at least remotely with those who master the audience and e from the screen, but from a computer or gadget, or it can become

at least from part of the help in solving this problem, but of course with belarus with you with the fact that a in the field of teaching religious disciplines, and most importantly - this is the personality of the teachers, the teacher is more important than the book. no matter how good textbooks are written with a bad teacher, they will not work. and who am i , what should be my attitude towards people, what is conscience? what is eternity? why is it important for the motherland, and not just the state that dominates me. and why are we men and a woman, and not 33. uh, parrot. uh, in a scoundrel of a person, it all depends on how it will be told to you. yes, the problem is to find, and now, for all

russian schools and universities, people who would be able to do this, but the existence of a problem should not prompt us to give up problems should lead us to look for ways out and solve it, and not retreat a lot. thank you. now maxim is behind this interesting conversation. thank you. i was also very interested.

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