if we talk about business support in general, we know that new people are very closely involved in a whole range of issues. you have many initiatives. please tell us what other measures, and which ones may become even more relevant now. eh, at this time. we came up with the concept of such a nep 2.0, where on the one hand? what is the new economic policy for small and medium-sized businesses, there is a lot of such relief from all the requirements that we have accumulated for 30 years. well, that's a perk. uh, similar to the fact that there were uh all sorts of moratoriums during covid, that is, don’t touch them , don’t pull them, let them work quietly, don’t scare them to regulate prices, as we tried there a number of hot heads there in march april there, leave sugar to regulate prices, that is, leave the first. uh, few medium-sized businesses are at rest, the second is to do development projects in russia, for example, in the field of machine building there in the technological industry. and now there is a huge project there for several there. hmm, i can already say in this, there are

300 billion - this is a project that is doing a lot. there sibur, together with the support of both the central bank and the ministry of industry and trade, because to make small-tonnage medium-tonnage chemistry in russia we fell under a large package of eu sanctions that we used to use the west as our raw material appendage. now this is impossible. it is necessary to do this chemistry. now by yourself this is a huge project. it will take several years. it is not profitable, uh, it will be for many years, because there they are now what the state subsidizes. this is a very big win to do. and so, where the commanding height of the economy. there the state helps, the business itself does not make any state economy, the state itself. maybe just another fund to do it. sorry, yes, there is such a powerful example, no , let private companies do it, but with the support of the state, the second thing is to let people set up small businesses themselves. e. life of

russia and here is reshetnikov maxim gennadievich when we were in france two weeks ago. he says, of course, that the economy has not sank, this is a huge contribution of small medium-sized businesses and in general business in general, because it was the courage of these people, their cunning mind, that made it possible to establish new chains, logistics allowed new monetary schemes. and yes, to introduce, so we must find not only a special military operation, but we have already launched a special economic operation. and we need to support the business. here, for example. anglo-saxon countries are not shy about sectionism. europe simply prohibits our goods from being imported. or, for example, impose sanctions in the form of a wto customs rate of 5%. there's about 10 for some goods. they contribute 35%, that is, the increased duties are illegal, spitting on the entire wto a direct embargo on our goods, in general, both on steel and coal. there, you know, now there are struggles in the oil and gas fields, but even ordinary toilet

paper from russia cannot be transported there, hygiene products cannot be transported to europe. that is, they love completely different. these things are where we have revenue, that is, europe, and where we are doing, the added value is good, it directly shoots our players pointwise. we must answer this. reply. minimum increase in duties. she, too, has already bargained with the mike, such a decision was made. well, you just know the story with one cosmetic company there, which said that yes, we will help in ukraine krymsky properly blown up. they've already been thrown out. we have several retail chains just thrown out of uh, slide to your place. although it is possible to earn money in russia, but at the same time there is no shitting russia here, this will not work. this is what is needed. it's not easy for you to take care of something. here they are leaving. so, like some oligarchs leave, but they say goodbye, but do not leave. what is this, uh, make money here or when you pay taxes here. find yourself decently, and

earn and talk in one place. it won't work. here we need our industry. to raise, some understand import substitution as what they used to buy in the west. now we will buy in the east. no, this is not good. now we have to produce. this is where protectionism is needed. all countries have risen and england, germany and the states once rose to proceduralism. let's we bolder to protect our economy. we are facing the fact that a number of people, especially there, well, ministers understand this problem, but a number of people there in the government. here there is a lower level, somewhere in the departments there are some women , but how will we be there without these western goods. well, how will we do this and we will do it ourselves. well, very produced. uh, plastic windows. we do it ourselves. we even make a lot of plastic pipes ourselves. let's not be afraid. here is the sanctions standoff. we'll talk again, yeah and, accordingly, now continuing the theme of e-party

initiatives. here it is, in particular. the new people party introduced the new people to the parliament for consideration of another bill on amnesty for a number of economic crimes. here, please tell us what is the essence of this initiative and who will fall under this amnesty, respectively. thank you so much. yes, we have submitted a draft law for so long today, and the idea of ​​an amnesty has been discussed in the business community, including with the authorities for several years, and earlier an application for an amnesty was enough, broad, we removed all the controversial articles left. there are quite narrow. the list of articles of the compositions of this amnesty will affect, if all goes well there are 20,000 people, approximately. yes, and some of them are sitting behind such a high -profile fraud article, once an article, when it appeared, it appeared back there in the nineties, when you really remember there were all these banks. chara is there, who threw depositors. there were a lot of scams out there. now, uh, for the last 10 years, law enforcement agencies have been under her, but slipped,

well, any economic activity, there are some not. e compositions and, of course, the courts in some cases. they justify people there, but hardly cases. we still have such an accusatory bias, you know, especially on economic articles. if we have already arrested, there is probably something there, that's a lot. people who would be very useful to us in the economy now. uh, so that these are people who, under the conditions of sanctions, can also participate in this special economic operation and, uh, literally. and here is the abbreviation pepper articles and here is their narrowing, especially for those who for the first time may have found themselves in places of detention of people who have committed such an economic crime for the first time, and i believe that it would be very useful now in this very essence. moving on, now returning, more precisely to the topic, just the same sanctions-sanctions confrontation, in particular, the european union has a new method. perhaps you can say that. now there is an ex-territorial

approach to sanctions against our country. that means they'll be wearing touch lists. citizens of organizations from third countries that help russians bypass sanctions, respectively. please tell me how, in your opinion, these measures can be, well, effective, as they say, from their point of view. how can we answer? how do you evaluate such a step in general? well, this is not a new way for them, because this, uh, was actually partly in the package of sanctions after the fourteenth year. what sanctions were applied against iran that is, this is a proven method when not only an enterprise, e.g. from economic subjects within the country are punished, but those who cooperate with them buds? it's an understandable idea, yes. eh, that's to say, it's not great. it's bad for the country, but er. russian people saw very different things. here and well how to say? yes, it's annoying, but there are ways to get around it. these are ours. uh, our entrepreneurs will find the same people, if they are not taken

to the front now, yes, and they will be released from prisons, then, i think that we will decide this here as well, of course, i would not want to tell you in detail how to do this. but now there are a lot of consultants, which suggest how to do well, in principle, our experienced people, many still remember the mechanisms of the nineties of the two thousandth, that is, goods will go to russia, and raw materials for production will go. there are details. until now, even aggregates are being dragged in, and it is possible to lead a business on this, of course, the price of delivery has increased tensely. that's what a lot of people ask. but how is it? the dollar, it seems, is cheaper even now. and what about the prices have risen, because the cost of delivery, what is called logistics has grown and the second payment system. now we got there after a few steps. hmm, so to speak, of course, we are squeezed out like that. well, not a criminal zone, of course, but such a gray zone and beautiful. a lot of transparency steps have been taken, because a

global world is being built. yes, such people are now pushing us out of it , but i think that, on the whole, the world will globally disintegrate, and in this sense, russia has a pioneer, the first to pass through, who will cope. those are, uh, the level of pressure that people in russia can endure, nothing good, but this is a completely different level. pressure, in which people in the west are ready, a very high level of stress resistance. yes. uh. please tell me about interaction. in memes, these people cannot be defeated . quite right. and it's not a joke. yes? yes, yes, yes, and if we talk about the post-soviet space, about interaction, and please tell me, in your opinion, how russia should now build relations with uh, post-soviet, and republics, respectively, here uh, the main point is to build pragmatically and we so we build. yes, this is our president and economic government bloc and into the foreign policy bloc we

build very pragmatically. that is. here often some bloggers say, but why they do n’t say something, why they don’t recognize, this or that there are now new republics, here we need checkers or go, our economy needs to go, therefore, the fact that some neighboring countries are so propagandistic russia’s support was not particularly noted in the sphere; we don’t need it from them. we have enough of our own will and strength yes, and attention. but what is important for us is that real the flow of the real transit of uh goods. uh, services, often even roadwork is still a mechanism. yes, this is what we need here, this is what they need from them, and what kind of political declarations they have - we will figure it out later after winning this conflict with the west. i think let's proceed from this thank you. thank you very much for your perseverance.