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several kryvyi rih soviet republic and called it all the ussr. as shown, the history of merger and accession could not seriously change either the character or the way of thinking from glaciers and zapadentsev, if in soviet times the contradiction between the regions was firmly and even sometimes harsh soviet power, then after independence , and especially after the maidans, they simply tore the country apart and when they now say from kiev that they want to return crimea, donbass and the lands of navorossia to ukraine , it looks like mockery. more details in the story anna efimova february 2022 deafening explosions are heard on the north crimean canal in the first days of the start of a special military operation, russian troops destroy a dam built by ukrainian nationalists back in 2014. now nothing
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interferes with the supply of water to the crimea all these years, dumbo blocked the flow of the dnieper water. to the peninsula. so the ukrainian authorities. attempted to punish crimean residents who enter a free referendum, voted overwhelmingly in favor of reunification with russia meanwhile water supply of the arid peninsula. 85% depended on ukraine. the thirst for justice brought civil activists to the leading international platforms, he and the osce, but the blockades that were of the energy dean is this not genocide, crimean, in general, a mockery of the crimean people. for some reason, no one recognizes this. we are talking about this, saying that the ukrainian side allows this. look, this is genocide. no, they shut our mouths there. they don't let me say that, they say it's fake. it is not true. it wasn't. nobody light i didn’t turn off the water i didn’t turn it off, in general, you’re making it all up reach out to your colleagues, presented reports abroad, argued, and while the collective west demonstrated a collective misunderstanding of the crimean activists.
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there were threats from ukrainian radicals right on the sites themselves, there was pressure on our journalists who were with us on us. well , nothing, we are used to threats constantly coming. they are written by some anonymous calls and so on, this tactic of the work of the ukrainian special services from those whose representatives they call civilian a society that performs at the venues. and yet , back then, in 2014, crimea managed to leave meanly for kiev relatively painlessly, which can’t be said, but donbass where they began to massively pull equipment even before the announced referendums on independence from ukraine, literally, a few days in the territories of donetsk and lugansk regions , something began to happen that in kiev they called the three letters o , that is, anti-terrorist operations a in the donbass the war in the fourteenth year the world was divided, and my world personally as a citizen of donetsk, but also. i am very well i remember how my odnoklassniki were leaving, my odnogruppniki a and these are the people, including
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those people who hate us fiercely, they hate us fiercely , if they considered the people of donbass to be their people, then they would, of course, they would worry , they would think about what a humanitarian catastrophe. they would think about how our children are dying. and after all, no one said that our girls and boys were dying 130 children more than 130 children died on the territory of donbass constant shelling, the purpose of which was civilian facilities, thousands of victims, kidnappings, pro-russian residents, torture and murder in secret prisons. haidar, robberies and robbery, here, we are carrying out his anti-terrorist operation, the ukrainian authorities, the masses invested in you criminals who replenished kindness and infiltrated with special cruelty against the civilian population, a vivid example of the scandalous volunteer battalion tornado command staff, which, for their atrocities, almost in full strength ended up in the dock while in
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kiev supermarkets they collected food and monetary donations for fighters for independence. and the inhabitants of the rest of ukraine humbly. all those who sympathized with the inhabitants of the donbass republics and maintained human contacts with them were subjected to fierce persecution, there were constant investigations, that is, literally thousands of people were imprisoned for financing terrorism. that is, if you sent money to your parents in the donbass, then you could easily gobble up 3-5 years for financing terrorism, meanwhile on international platforms. kyiv continued to express deep concern about the situation and demonstrated the desire for an allegedly peaceful settlement of the conflict within the same pretext. to the initiatives minsk-1 and minsk-2, they openly returned after signing and said that they would not fulfill anything . just for the simple reason that they considered the minsk agreements as just a respite for her to regroup to conduct new waves of mobilization and get as
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many weapons from the west as possible, probably trying to play the same well-worn ukrainian card president zelensky, in a nervous breakdown, called on the president of russia to return to the negotiating table after the start of a special military operation. yes, i don’t bite, i’m a normal man, sit down with me, talk to me, the negotiations in istanbul seemed to move the ukrainian delegation towards common sense, but under pressure from the west, the hope for a peaceful settlement quickly went out in kiev, they relied on military inflating the conflict, the degree of hatred began to go off scale apu became any available for artillery shells objects of civilian infrastructure, schools, hospitals, kindergartens, direct fire hit elderly houses on march 14, a ukrainian missile point of uz with a cluster warhead exploded in the center of donetsk, more than 20 people died, they left the store for literally 10 minutes across the road and began to arrive, explosions began, and everything in the store. no. everyone screamed, we
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fell under a tree, an assassination attempt followed, and the pro-russian activist pavel slobodchikov was killed on the traitors of collaborators who collaborated with russia at the very beginning of the sfo in kherson, 6 on september, the commandant of berdyansk, tom bardin, became the target of the saboteurs. in a serious condition, he was taken to the hospital, where he later died in the entrance of his own house. they also tried to kill the rector of kherson university, tatyana tomilina , and school teachers are persecuted, all whose fault is the readiness to teach in russian and according to russian programs, punishment up to 15 years in prison, if there is a murder, for example, of a person involved in youth, uh, culture and sports. yes if they rejoice over the murder of, uh, teachers or educators in schools or kindergartens, when if they rejoice over the murder of a person who was engaged in the restoration of housing and communal services, there in berdyansk and so on. that is, it is even difficult to explain, especially if they try to explain in
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russian, which many in ukraine now defiantly do not understand, and the population of the regions, which could not be ukrainianized, should be recorded in the category of second-class people, moreover, at the government level, so when we spoke about gene in zaporozhye in the donbass, these are imported cities there is no genetics there, apparently , the well-known phrase of ukrainian nationalists was uttered back in the early nineties by their representative dmytro korchinsky that crimea would be ukrainian or deserted fully applies to the donbass and others liberated territories and it looks like this saying has become. now the guiding slogan of the ruling pro-western elite in kiev is ready to continue the massacre of those who do not agree with their party line anna yefimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine about how not so long ago kiev tried to build relations between different ukrainians between residents of the east and the west, we will talk with our permanent
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expert, historian and political scientist rostislav. ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon, rostislav why is zelensky always talking about the return of donbass, crimea, and now the territory of new russia. uh, in ukraine really. there are people who are ready to go for it in crimea donbass zelensky in this case does not rely on the opinion of the inhabitants of these territories, so he. in general, how should the president of ukraine defend the ukrainian state interests. moreover , leaving ukrainian state funds is not abstract. and since they are spelled out in the constitution in ukraine, it has been so calm, to put it mildly, about the constitution for a long time that it seems to me that , of course, there is some other one here. that is, uh, it’s quite right in ukraine to live calmly about the constitution in ukraine, but in ukraine they are restless about the territory, and this
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not only in ukraine, it is any state to the most unnecessary far-lying territory. yes, that's how britain's public opinion is about the kolpino islands. ukraine is also very restless about the loss of territory. e, that means, and accordingly, in this case, if zelensky exceeds and the authorized person violates the constitution and signs, e, an agreement, let's say about c. if these territories are transferred to russia, then, accordingly, political pressure will be put on him up to, say, accusations of state changes and impeachment understands perfectly well, which means that not a single sensible source in ukraine will initiate such things until the public consciousness has changed. now, if the country gets tired of the war and says everything at any cost, but let's stop this. as you wish, then, yes, then the italian may well change his mind. he has already changed it several times. so, according to the most acute, the
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promton will come out and say. yes, of course, why on the territory, if we need peace, and taking into account the opinion of those who left, because one of the ukrainian politicians once he said a good phrase that they left us, not the territory, the people who live in these territories left us. yes, they left with the territory. they are not ready to take into account in ukraine the opinion of those people who live here in the east. here are the so-called skhodnyakov, in general, when people's opinion was taken into account, if only two referendums were held in ukraine regarding the preservation of the soviet union. one spoke in favor of when needed. uh, right there in six months or seven months. uh, the same referendum and the same by the number of votes he has already spoken out against the preservation of the soviet union, it is politically unprofitable for ukraine to take into account the opinion of the people of these territories of these regions, and it does not take it into account. well, nevertheless, when they want people to return back to ukraine, they are not shelled every day, they do not turn off their electricity and water, as it was
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in crimea where is the logic they do not want people to return their slogan was crimea is ukrainian or deserted, and suited them, including the deserted crimea into ukrainian, and for 8 years about the donbass they said that please take it away you need people. take the people. give away territory. they said that publicly they now have the same position of the main territorial integrity. well, by the way, the constitution is written protectors. nothing is written there about people, except that the peoples are the source of power. well, that's all, no, ukraine is recognized. well, at least it declares that it is a welfare state. e with us. yes, but it does. yes , this suggests that the rule of law there means a social package. it applies to its citizens. nowhere does it say that citizens it should be 52 million, not 20 million. not 15, for god's sake it says this about the territories of
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these legions. yes, they are part of ukraine. and citizens can pick up nothing about them. was there even a chance in the history of ukraine? when it would be possible to harmonize the relationship between the regions, that is, between the people inhabiting these regions. i think that even two chances is the moment of the creation of the ukrainian state, when the idea of federalism was pushed through, and it had serious chances of success for the second time. when kuchma e, just in order to stabilize the situation in 2000 , he again pushed through the idea of transitioning from a unitary federal state, because the federal structure creates greater stability and does not allow different regions to impose their position on each other, that is, uh-huh device implies the need for consensus, otherwise such a country moves from a federation to a soft confederation, then it begins to disintegrate, and
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it can also be saved only with the help of a civilian, but like the united states, for example. well, the same principle was an attempt to lay down in the minsk agreements. still, to create a kind of union, uh, ukraine, this is already external pressure. yes, this is no longer an internal ukrainian initiative of this external pressure. moreover, the pressure that ukraine initially refused. you remember, you told poroshenko when he signed the minsk agreements. he returned to kiev. i signed these agreements not in order to fulfill, but in order to condemn the hostilities that were unfortunate for the ukrainian army. and now all the fighting built in. we will not fulfill them, that is, initially no one was going to. uh, federalize. they even banned the terms, that is, the term federalization in ukraine was banned, as a criminal could go to jail from it. eh, that's it, because for ukraine for her. american masters with the preservation of a unitary form of government - this is the only chance to keep different parts of the country under their control. that's why people's interests. in this sense, it does
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not matter the interests of some people have it doesn't matter about everyone else thank you very much for a very interesting story. the industrialization of novorossia of the current territories of the donbass and the sea of \u200b\u200bazov began under catherine ii . in the russian service, karl gaskun was instructed to explore the hall of guzzle and coal in the novorossiysk province. after which it was published imperial decree on construction. in the donetsk district near the lugan river of the foundry, karl gasconne became not only the director of the plant, but also the first urban planner and architect of lugansk
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, the city grew up on the site of the village of lugansk plant. craftsmen will be called brought from the lipetsk yaroslavl and olonets provinces, the main administrative and technical staff consisted of the british, invited to russia by the state committee 3 years after the start of construction. lugansk foundry produces the first production of 15.5 thousand pounds, shells for the batteries of sevastopol for for a short time, the name provided guns of all large fortresses and defensive structures of the black sea-azov coast of the kiev garrison, as well as the podolsk and caucasian army of russia since 1804, in lugansk they began to make not only cores, but also cannons of the victory of the russian fleet at the beginning of the 19th century . this is a merit or a heifer in the lugansk plant. the work of the russian imperial military-industrial complex was gaining momentum for bloody
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wars with napoleon, more and more guns were required. in 1812 alone, the lugansk plant had fired more than 400 guns on the battlefields. all of them served regularly in battle, not one of them was torn apart by the high rates of achievements and failures of the industrialization of novorossia in the plot of olga mokhova 2014. last year, professionals and amateurs from donbass and many cities. russia was sent to the jury about 100 works. this is a tribute to our history respect for those people who created,
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built lugansk, lugansk, therefore, the workshop was called the master by its workers. e that in the eighteenth century and, in fact, the ending is different in that we remember our history, we do not rewrite it. we are proud to move in 1786, an outstanding scottish engineer in russia was preceded by almost a detective story, 10 years of correspondence between diplomatic departments and intelligence agencies karl lord. he brought his own from britain. by obtaining the improvement of guns with the help of a pistol flint lock, such artillery pieces with in time, they will also begin to produce at the lugansk foundry , making the russian fleet the best in the world, this move is unique in that this is the first time, perhaps in world practice, when not only a smart head with technology was transported, but when they were brought transported, more precisely speaking from one state to another, and the tools of this
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very new technology, that is, from scotland, it was transported in fact in its entirety. uh, the cast-iron foundry of the kerensky plant, at the very beginning of the nineties of the 18th century, prince potemkin interceded before catherine ii about sending coal to novorossia on the territory of present-day donbass. it was discovered here back in the time of peter but the matter did not go further than the prophecy about its great benefits for the production of cast iron. i was importing coal from britain at the time, it was expensive and unreliable. in general, he developed such a conclusion that coal is coal. of proper quality, that it corresponds, in principle, to those coals that are mined in britain and are used for iron foundries. so a year later. after this expedition in 1795 in the fox beam. this area of modern lisichansk was opened the
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first stone of the coal mine. not only donbass but also russia, a year later he gave out to the mountain. the first coal raw material for the foundry , and in 1800 lugansk or thousands launched a house, but where for the first time in the russian empire cast iron was produced using coke , this particular enterprise was so necessary that when next year in the ninety-sixth century , emperor paul took over the leadership of the empire first so, which, in fact , crossed out many of the undertakings of catherine ii, nevertheless, the construction of this plant was recognized. so important that it continued into serious difficulties. the foundry began after the war. in 712, which greatly depleted production, a transition from lithium, nuclei and cannons to the manufacture of peaceful products was required. in 1818, a mining engineer was sent to lugansk. evgraf, kovalevsky, the future director of the department of mining and salt affairs, and later the minister of public education, he proves that the plant should become the center for the
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development of the metallurgical mining industry in southern russia, and most importantly, kovalevsky for the first time systematically explores the bowels of the region, indicating where and how the coal reserves discovered here should be mined. for the first time he uses such concepts as the donetsk ridge. and the donetsk basin and actually. that's thanks to evraf kovalevsky. today, all this space is very saturated. rich minerals in coals in the first place, but not only called donbass. as for the actual extraction of stone coal, then the abundant sources of it in the donetsk ridge can eventually be satisfied with the semineral not only the novorossiysk territory, but also other neighboring provinces a new page in the history of the lugansk plant was started in the year of its centenary may 18, 1895 on the birthday of emperor nicholas ii in lugansk open a state cartridge plant. at that time, the general staff determined the total
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need for ammunition in a billion rounds per year, about 100 million. it was planned to be manufactured at the lugansk plant, its second birth is already cartridge factory was due to the fact that in 895 the russian army had already adopted the mosin rifle for a long-lived charging rifle, which required a huge wheel of cartridges, that the russo-japanese war in 1905 showed that the cartridge might actually need more, because the first machine guns appeared during the civil war. the virtually ruined plant produced, however, up to 4 million rounds of ammunition monthly on the basis of the plant's workshops evacuated during the great patriotic war in the ural region of siberia and central asia already in the post-war period, seven more enterprises were created in the forty-fifth they were awarded the order of the red banner of labor and in the fifties, for the first time in the ussr, the production of automatic rotary lines began here after the collapse of the soviet union. in the ninety-first year,
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the first mint of independent ukraine was opened at the plant from a turnover of the yellow 50 kopeck coins minted at one time in lugansk have not yet been withdrawn olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev typical, ukraine this is all we wanted tell. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon. one hundred percent chicken breast meat, so you feel the taste of chicken and nothing more, or voila try nuggets strips wings. and you and
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