even in the nineties, when we thought, but now we are all friends, the only relationship with russia that would be acceptable to the united states was a relationship in which america remained world domination. we talked to former politicians and military, as well as american university professors and journalists. whose point of view on the situation around ukraine and the nature of the conflict is too different from what they say in the main us media. why do many of them become persona non grata and how much their voice is today? remind in moscow square in 2015, a delegation from russia, the united states, planted a tree of friendship among those who also held a shovel was ray mcgovern, but a former cia analyst read unadorned poetry, with each new

victim, i was stinged, no other, no wife, katyusha and a cool little mouse. mr. mcgovern majored in russia in college under kennedy in 1963, he joined the cia as an analyst and served under seven presidents. one of the closest advisers to reagan and nixon, right up to the presidency of bush sr., was collecting and processing information on foreign policy and preparing briefings for heads of state every morning. in this photo in 1985, then -vice president george bush sr. and i are on the balcony of his office. he was my friend. one problem. he was a poor father. well, you understand, i mean

, what his son became, i was lucky enough to get to moscow in may 1972 to sign an agreement on which became the basis of stability for the next 30 years. until george w. bush was persuaded to quit and then trump quit inf treaty, and then the cornerstone of stability. it just evaporated and we found ourselves in the current situation. ray retired in the 1990s with the citrus medal of distinguished intelligence and returned it in 2006. meow, oh to be associated with the agency, since it openly admitted to using torture, but before i took a picture of the medallion, then i gave it to the head of the committee, he probably threw it out after maguvron became an active critic of many aspects of us foreign policy, especially after the war in iraq , afghanistan breathe. this is james clair.

air lieutenant general who claimed that the russians are evil and need to be conquered everything would be fine if he had not been made the director of national intelligence, which includes both the cia and part of the fbi, all intelligence is almost genetically inclined to lie to do bad things. that's what he said and such a person reported to obama how to deal with the russians. and here, in a press conference with secretary of defense rumsfield live on cnn, he taught a fact-checking lesson by interrogating him about weapons of mass destruction in iraq on september 27, 2002 donald trumpfell stated i quote that there is clear evidence linking al qaeda from hussein's government i want to ask in front of all americans. why did you lie and drag us into

an unnecessary war that resulted in so many casualties. what for? firstly, i didn’t lie, then it turned out that there were no weapons of mass destruction; the new ones said it was there, i didn’t claim this. i say there are supposed places. no, you said it next to tekrit with baghdad in the east, west, north and south of them. these are your words. it was ray magovern who came up with the formula that explains who benefits from rising tensions to the three letters mic american military-industrial complex, he added five more letters to the new abbreviation mic congress, intelligence snakes academia and think tanks abbreviated mikimat rhymes a little with mickey mouse to make it easier to remember the media because without them nothing doesn't work. they fasten everything. and who controls the

media, the rest and components of the mikimat, who profit from the war; weapons are produced and sold; profits are eaten in the pockets of congressmen, who benefit from this elections and allocate more budget money to the military-industrial complex is a terrible cycler. he warned about this and made it clear that there was only one antidote against it. what is an aware civil society? x in politics history when they say hey mcgovern do n't you condemn what happened in february. i answer. i try not to be a hypocrite. if i were the president of russia, i would look. and what did yeltsin do, how did they rebuff attempts to join nato and move closer to the west, how did anti-missile bases appear nearby? i don't know what i would did, true but the first priority of the president is

to defend his country. all we know is that we don't want a third world war and we don't want to trade nuclear strikes. so let's decide together. how to end this stupidity and horror in ukraine, what a reasonable way out of this do you see, after all, everyone loses and sanctions hit everyone and people die, as a person who understands the history of russia, i can probably quote the bronze horseman. what happened? and putin said, the west does not

take us seriously in a nutshell. putin closed the window was boarded up with plywood boards. we will no longer orient ourselves to the west. he deceived us and is building up his weapons against us to the near, abroad, we will turn to the east and american politicians do not understand this. they don't know about russia's history of world war ii. and this is the real snag. after all, president biden listens to people like blinkin sullivan and other inexperienced advisers. hopefully someone will tell him the truth about how dangerous the situation is getting and hasn't happened yet. something the situation in ukraine still needs to be resolved, by agreement or otherwise, before thousands more ukrainians die. jeffrey sacks, a harvard graduate and

columbia university professor in the early 1990s, was boris yeltsin's chief economic adviser and co-authored a radical economic recovery shock therapy on a team of the best reformers of the best western-oriented leaders in this country, but there are still people who wants to close xenophobes are extremely nationalists, who i bet think the smell hit russia in the back. there is a real threat of a political catastrophe. this is a question. let not days, but a week a month and people should have hope. this method, with his participation, was successfully worked out in poland in the early nineties and less successfully in bolivia in his book. end of poverty. he later wrote that he insisted on giving russia $15 billion a year to stabilize the currency and pump aid, but the russian economy would quickly recover. it turned out that it did not meet the interests of either the imf small eight. i am

tried to help the economists of the team of gorbachev and then yeltsin to someone who should have normal good relations between our countries. but when i tried to get support for the soviet economy and before the collapse of the ussr, so in ninety-two in ninety-three, when i worked for the gaidar government and tried to attract financial assistance for russia, i saw that no one in the american leadership was interested in this approach, especially these people evolved when towards the end of bill clinton's second term of the knut. joined more four countries had a lot of provocations. expansion of nato bombing of serbia war. in afghanistan in 2001 and iraq in 2003, the invitation of ukraine and georgia to nato in 2008, and finally, the covert operation to overthrow assad in 2011, the overthrow. gaddafi forces minato in 2011 everything. this step by step led to the complete failure of the alternative approach to world politics and again the united states played a leading role,

which is why i hold them responsible for the decline of relations with russia russia the united states are great powers and between them there is always a risk frontation. and this seems to me to be the simplest explanation. why ukraine should be a neutral state? because when two big countries do not agree, in opinion, on many issues you need to leave some space between them. i have such a principle. i called it the law of the saxon, which boils down to the fact that the united states should not bomb the country. if at least half of americans cannot name at least two cities in this country, and usually our population is not able to do this, and this is already enough to say, don't intrude. and start wars, don't start confrontations. in early october, it was professor sachs who, on air to bloomberg, accused the united states and poland of sabotage on nord stream. jeff jeff stop here this is a serious statement. why do you think that this is a us action? what

evidence is there, firstly, there is specific radar data that american military helicopters were circling over this area, which are usually based in gdansk; secondly, the united states itself had previously threatened that one way or another the end of nord stream. and there was also an amazing statement by the secretary of state, blinkin, at a press conference last friday. he said it was an amazing opportunity. i know that this is contrary to our generally accepted legend and this can not be said at all in the west, but all my interlocutors around the world are convinced that this is the work of the united states. the host clearly hears the headphones. stop it. stop what evidence you have of radar data? why are you silent? shut up silence him never invite him more than 100 one of the brightest alternative voice on american tv belongs to tucker carlson last week,

in fact, once again directly repeated russian propaganda, suggesting that somehow it was the united states that was behind the attack on the nord stream pipeline. stream carlson host of his own evening show on the fox news channel consistent conservatives and republican his assessment of events is almost always such. be tolerant, turn into shut up and obey, and then already get on your knees and lay my shoes on. with intolerably uncomfortable not politically correct, not in the way of the american media mainstream thomas is a man who won because he competed with women who are biologically disadvantaged correctly, but for some reason our media celebrates cheating, who can replace her, who is able whether

there is another person in the country who is as superficial and prejudiced as the jentsaks. what is her name karine jean-pierre, since joe biden became president, the price of gasoline has doubled as well as the price of other goods necessary for americans to live, one of his favorites, so to walk through washington's anti-russian policy without hesitation in expressions, opponents called carlson a russian cheerleader because for such remarks. he has ruined even the fortunes of the republican party's bludgeon. so wait. why is it considered not loyal to take the side of russia and loyal, if you are for ukraine dinar putin loves dogs, that you love them too? you what do you sympathize with the russians? well, yes, it corresponds to the russian one. propaganda while our economy is deteriorating, and there are practically no borders, this guy reads, lectures there shows a list of

gifts for christmas. i want this and that, and send a bicycle. yes, quickly, he tells us that we must launch a nuclear strike on russia, the us accusation of involvement in the sabotage on nord stream shook the air with nosax was in solidarity and the famous retired colonel richard black he fought in vietnam from syria later was a senator and completed military career as head of the criminal law department, so he was used to working with evidence of protests due to energy problems and was almost ready to abandon sanctions. quite logical. that one of the goals of the us was to destroy the pipeline, then the europeans can tear and throw as much as they want, but if they say turn on the nord stream and rebel. the supply of gas is already impossible to do and the protest fizzles out a little. and even earlier, in an interview with representatives of the schiller institute colonel black criticized the white house

policy towards russia. and he called the approach of officials in the united states to solving some of the world's problems the machiavellian states and nato does not care how many ukrainians die civilians women. children soldiers, we still have it turned into some kind of football game. we don't care. how many participants playing for our money will be crippled on the field. the main thing is that we win now we supply a fantastic amount of weapons. and this led to the fact that the rating that produces rockets and norb. grunman, who creates rocket planes, all these defense companies began to receive super-profits and bloat from the dollar. eduard lozansky was among those who tried to bring russia closer to the united states in the early nineties . there, those who are called the back channel people's diplomat since the eighty- eighth year, eduard dmitrievich helped organize the visit of the us delegation, later

connected insiders from washington, the founder of the harrytech polaricho fund, here he directly contacted bush senior and urged the white house to develop a plan for integration with russia that the soviet union and the other he went to the white house. i was waiting for him there cafe nearby. here, i came to tell you that you know, here, uh, i have mixed feelings mix. because when i started talking to my soul, yeah, he listened very carefully and it was interesting to him, maybe the lieutenants would have to talk to them before that. that is, not only for here, but then the calendar went from she was his. she was also very skeptical about soviet affairs. i didn't really like it. he brings delegations holds conferences in congress washington every year hosts the world russian forum ninety. in the third year, we invited a delegation from russia from home and from

ukraine, and there was a meeting, so in congress and they spoke to us, there were representatives of the pentagon, even the cia, then there were jeans. i remember very well and the question was how america can help to ensure that relations between russia and ukraine develop in a positive direction. and that in general the three countries are russia and america, uh, ukraine, they were some of them. uh, but a cluster, or something, uh, and set an example for other republics. well, all suggestions. as a result, the promise not to expand nato and create a security arc will be ignored, and i will stop. blank is the congressman from the speechwriter, and he too was one just like the currealman. he was one of those who promoted the idea of ​​cooperation. all those congressmen who talked about it were all

putin's agents and i gradually squeezed out one by one. derov was discouraged by many politicians in the us, among them a democratic senator. danil is my debate ninety-eighth, where jubaiden also participated. he assured that this would open the way to nuclear war, the principle of not using force first, which saved humanity in the 20th century. will end once. and they have this weapon, then ironically. after the end of the cold war. we may face nuclear armageddon. the topic of nuclear war has occupied peter kuznikov all his adult life, a professor of history at the american university in washington and director of the institute for nuclear research, who has always combined political activity and a scientific career and shouted about nuclear

danger. if we take, for example, a local nuclear war between india and pakistan, we will talk about a hundred bombings of the stratosphere equal to hiroshima, sending five to ten million tons of smog and debris in 2 weeks. they block sunlight. it will start to get cold. most of the agriculture will be destroyed and this will lead to 2 billion victims. coming from a family of left-wing new york intellectuals and a descendant of holocaust survivors, he is today known for his scathing criticism of american foreign policy in 2012 with director oliver stone published a book, the untold history of the united states, at the same time, a series of the same name was released in them, an alternative vision of many events in american and world history. we were undoubtedly allies during world war ii. it was an outstanding alliance that fought against fascism and japanese militarism, but as the last

polls showed, the role of the ussr did not receive due recognition, and the last polls only 17% of europeans recognize it as a decisive role in the defeat of nazism and only 7% of the french, then what is happening now he considers, the most dangerous point at which the world has ever found itself said we better equip ourselves with nuclear weapons. how do we succumb to communism, and kennedy said during the crisis in cuba let it be better. my children will be red than dead. we had leaders who at least had some sanity and decency and a different vision of the world. joe biden is not a bad person, but he has surrounded himself with war hawks. he has 18 advisers from the center of the new american security. and they are more anti-china than russia, but russia mixed up his plans for the invasion of ukraine, along with the stone he drove to the series across america, debunking

the myths about nuclear deterrence that it was the atomic bombs dropped on japan that accelerated the final of the second world expansion. nato, we understood from the very beginning that it would be a curse in russia in the ninetieth gorbachev. promised no expansion. not only bushy baker but leader after leader, but since the nineties, the alliance has increased by 14 countries, and now there are 16 more of them, ambassador burns wrote in a secret memorandum. no means no, don't cross america and canon and nice warned the red line about this. and these are not cold war pacifists, but the trump bidens sent more weapons, more instructors. russia was provoked, but that's it. but it was her monstrous mistake to invade, and now she is paying a heavy price for her ignorance of world history. the history of russia, in

particular the americans, allows politicians to manipulate them. i compare what is happening now with 1979, when at christmas the ussr was in toxins, afghanistan adviser carter b jizzinsky then in public shed crocodile tears they say. what terrible aggression, but behind the scenes, he and carter opened champagne to mark the occasion back in a july memo to the president. he said that as soon as we start providing military assistance to the mujahideen of the ussr we will have to start an invasion putin wants to make russia again great fashion wants to make india again. but nobody talks about the planet. i know gorbachev is not as popular in russia as stalin was. but he was the one who spoke about

humanity and the elimination of nuclear weapons. political scientist storyboard diplomat eighties worked in the embassy of mexico then in the soviet department of the foreign ministry, and later on the capitalist hill in the leadership of the republican party in the senate. outposts are positions, all stages of the collapse of the soviet union. i was among the few people then in the state department, and in the senate, who really believed that the end of the ussr was possible. i had such a set of american and russian flags on my desktop and they asked me what kind of departments blue-red flag. i say ruslan no. no, they say russian. it's a red sickle. and the hammer is not. here is russian. he will return again as a pilot and a rabid anti-communist the 21st century has changed the attitude of both of them to what is happening you know russian

for many years they ask me what we did wrong, what should have been done differently, to avoid what happened. i answer nothing you could not do the problem is not in you rams not in russia, china, iran, north korea , venezuela, but in the usa, the ideological imperative with which they armed themselves. when the ussr disappeared experienced relief? i thought we'd be back to normal like it was before ww1 before 1914 when the powers weren't ideologically colored yes defended their interests but for the sake of world stability but i didn't expect the us to embark on a project of global domination like they did spelled out in an article by ulm, crystal, and robert kagan on the project for a new american century. kagan, by the way, it is no coincidence that the husband of victoria lulang, the architect of our policy in

ukraine, was finally divorced in the illusion after the bombing of yugoslavia i was wrong because i did not understand what kind of people stood at the head of my country for them the main problem was neither communism nor the soviet regime, but that the united states should always rule the world, that we need our own kind of communism, which we will impose on the rest instead of the world progress-socialism will be a democracy of human rights, a free market in our interpretation. in august, a junjatra with raymagovern, several more american politicians and activists were blacklisted by the ukrainian they were accused of russian propaganda as the center for countering disinformation and declared information terrorists, the list was compiled by an organization within the ukrainian government funded by the united states, although,

as far as i understand, the entire government is funded by the united states. so there is not much difference, but the question arises. to what extent did american intelligence help? when compiling the list, this entity means that our own government is persecuting people like me and this is a very worrying sign ukraine could be successful an independent state, having a good relationship with russia such as canada usa austrians germany but it was unacceptable to washington no matter. how many times has russia been looking for a modus winde verdict agreement, like the minsk agreements, which both western countries and ukraine refused to fulfill so we ended up where we ended up. in a

sense, i even hope that the ukrainian crisis, the situation in the world will lead to the collapse of the so-called western mainstream on the rules of the world order. if this happens, the us will go through something similar to the experience of the ussr in 1991. i hope that after this there will be a normal healthy america that can have friendly relations with russia but until the grip of this ideological madness is weakened. i'm afraid nothing good can happen. do you think that we have always been doomed to be enemies and especially rivals. here, looking from today, when the relationship, well, below zero - this is too strong a word, just like the

word is doomed. i would say that it was not always our destiny to become allies, but there is a healthy competition and unhealthy, unfortunately, relations today belong to the second category. ph.d., an expert on russia's relations with the eu the us, he discusses how well alternative assessments are heard in american society. causes of the crisis, among us there is at least one very respected analyst of the school of realism political scientist john wersheimer in 2014, he published an article in the most authoritative magazine, where he explained? why is the west to blame for the crisis? and then he also read an open lecture on youtube by her watched by 12 million people, mostly the united states is a lot. on this topic in 2022, it again became

a hit with almost 28 million views, where he expressed a lack of understanding of the us foreign policy strategy. are you ready to risk a nuclear war because of a piece of real estate in ukraine that is not of strategic interest to the united states, but at the same time we are talking about its accession to nato, that is you'd think we'd give a guarantee of protection in the event of a fifth amendment attack against a country that's not in our interest. this only speaks to how foreign policy is discredited. is this one of the many riots we made? it's like being touched by the kings of dasa, only in reverse, and none of them ended. okay? iraq afghanistan now libya, ukraine in america at different times there

were many organizations that advocated rapprochement with moscow . m in search of the roots of current events, one must look at the beginning of the zero, when the nato expansion project was launched, the ongoing demonization, not only of putin, but of everything connected with russia, of our policy of uprooting trees from the cold war. like, for example, withdrawing from the missile defense treaty, of course, russia is to blame for the situation. today. it was putin's decision to invade. although i understand that this is done for security reasons, i think it would be difficult to say that all means have been exhausted. among the most prominent leaders of this committee was stephen cowan, his historian did not 2020 a major specialist in the ussr who

fought all his life against the demonization of russia and searched for the roots of the ukrainian conflict, nato expansion is for russia a group of broken promises given by the elder bush that in exchange for the unification of the two germanys, the alliance will not move east, and it also represents hypocrisy for russians the us and the double standards of the mid-nineties was an incredible expansion of the american sphere of influence. and now the latest news from irkutsk where the military the plane fell on a residential building, as reported by the ministry of emergency situations the pilot died casualties among the population. there is no direct communication now our correspondent anastasia tsygankova anastasia hello. what is known so far. hello, i'm here right now . the incident is novolensky district. before irkutsk, an operational headquarters was already deployed on the spot, where the governor of the irkutsk region, igor

kovcheg , and the mayor of the city of irkutsk, ruslan bolotov , arrived. and sent pilaf was found about the dead residents there is no such information according to preliminary data, and in that part of the house it was a private house where the plane crashed, the inhabitants were not at the time of the crash, but there is information on the victim, of course, this is the building itself. the cars parked nearby were burned down. now all specialists are working on the spot, the ministry of emergency situations, the police, and so on , people from the nearest houses were evacuated. they are now behind the security fence for more details. we'll already get due operational headquarters, where the governor and the mayor are right now. anastasia tell me please, given that you are on site. how can you evaluate a fire? is there still open burning, is the fire spreading to other buildings? already liquidated, now they are sorting out the rubble,

including, uh, they cling to the territory even more so that the inhabitants move, so to speak, a little further to a safe distance. here is the scene. it can also be seen that the wing of the aircraft was formed in the way it is a private house, of course, there is a house adjoining a funnel formed on it, where the wing of the same aircraft that fell was clearly visible. thanks anastasia on a direct line from irkutsk where a military plane crashed on a residential building was our correspondent anastasia tsygankova and a few more reports a case of violation of safety rules and the operation of an air transport initiated by the crash of a su-30 aircraft in the irkutsk region was reported in investigative committee, the crashed su-30 in irkutsk belonged to the airline performed tests without ammunition. this is also reported by the investigative committee. the prosecutor's office began checking on the fact of the plane crash in irkutsk to department a and the degree of damage on the ground from the crash of the su-30 in

irkutsk is being established, reported to the united aircraft corporation. and now an urgent message from the ministry of defense the russian armed forces continued to strike at the military control systems of the energy sector of ukraine, all assigned objects were hit per day by artillery, more than 30 shells were fired at the eastern outskirts of energodar and the territory adjacent to the nuclear station is a message from the defense department. and where are you, of course, the enemy who was fired upon was fired at from suppressed casualties and no destruction at the station, the traditional situation is normal at night in the donetsk direction, the enemy attacked the positions of the armed forces of the russian federation, and where the artillery was stopped and the russians destroyed more than 40 ukrainian military in the air six shells of the american mlrs highmars and one harm rocket in the regions were destroyed. kakhovka , kherson region and matchmakers of the lpr. armed forces russia destroyed dnepropetrovsk. in the dnipropetrovsk region, oil storage facilities with diesel fuel for military equipment

, the enemy also tried to break through the defenses in the krasnaya limansky direction , about 70 ukrainian military personnel and equipment were destroyed by fire. and the russian armed forces destroyed a fuel depot with 100,000 tons of aviation fuel for the air forces of ukraine in the cherkasy region sergey shoigu held telephone conversations with the minister of defense of turkey , this was reported by the ministry of defense, we discussed the situation in ukraine shoigu brought to the turkish colleagues of concern about possible provocations by ukraine with the use of the so-called dirty bomb.

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15 hours of the capital with you russia 24 we are talking about the main topics of this sunday the investigative committee has already opened a criminal case on the fact of the crash of the su-30 aircraft in irkutsk under the article on violation