here, therefore, in any case, the challenge is more important. for all of us , for all of us, this is, of course, the life of the well-being of people who live all over the globe, and, of course, it seems very important to us that in the most severe most difficult times, and people who think are capable of independent expert analytical thinking, could communicate and could at least discuss these issues our contribution. that's how i imagine here is an expert in the altai club our contribution to the improvement and in solving current problems. it's direct honest frank, rather intelligent conversations. if we if we manage to do this, we will do our duty, and, so to speak, we may bring some benefit in this world. i want to thank everyone again and say that it is a great honor and great pride to be in such a company, and i want to note that here we are succeeding in e. to somehow

maintain some kind of working communication, i repeat. in general, uh, 41 countries is quite a lot, and in general, quite a few of us have gathered here. and uh. here. yesterday we signed a strategic institute, indie with colleague sharma. uh, agreement cooperation, and today, uh, by the way , i'm wearing a tie that we gave me yesterday. here it is, thank you very much, thank you, and i am happy to give the floor to the participants, and the panel and the moderator timofey vyacheslavovich. thank you so much. i would like to add that one of the signs of the uniqueness of this moment is that our esteemed

chairman is, in principle, a department tie, which is not characteristic of him, as an exclusively democratic -minded individual. and indeed we hmm gathered today dear friends, dear colleagues dear speakers in order to discuss the world that is rapidly changing and despite all its anxiety, in my deep conviction. getting better. and, uh , definitely getting better every day in our opening session this year. we have representatives of three. uh, the great powers of the three major powers besides russia, india, and the united india, the united states , the largest country in the developing world, indonesia, the united states, the representative of algeria, and myself. hope it's like this a diverse selection of speakers and their kind consent to participate in our session. the

report of the valdai club will allow us to take a comprehensive look at the issues that we are devoted to. and we, uh, have been writing this report for probably the seventh or eighth year, and each time we struggle with the optimism and pessimism of our own mood on the one hand. our pessimism is fueled by the fact that it is being destroyed, something we have become accustomed to over the past 25 years. and optimism is excited by the fact that instead a new one arises and every year we are dealing with something new in club last year. valdai devoted his report to the political outcome of the coronavirus pandemic, and at the end we suggested that now the states that have received more freedom have shown that they are able to act independently. it should turn out better. well, for now, at least in europe, it turns out so-so in asia, and therefore, our new report is devoted to what the

world will be like without superpowers, without the ability of one state or a small group of countries to control the behavior of everyone else, not only through military force, but also through influence over everything. uh, areas of our lives and the main challenge. that order, when someone was able to be the sole leader, throws, not russia, the main challenge is thrown by those powers, those states that have colossal economically for this. we have a demographic potential and this largely determines the choice of our participants. and i would like to start this conversation by asking to speak, and general sharmu chairman of the institute, united e, united services general shamov, the joint commands of india, our friend and official partner in the altai club, please, i would like to thank the

altai discussion club for this opportunity to come to russia for the second time and spend about a month here. session is very important and enough. provocative so i wanted to thank the organizers for this. so how can we look at the new world order this topic, which offered to organize. we are talking about a world without hegemony, superpowers, a world of immortality, powers, they need to be told that this is much easier said than done. i do not think that we are moving only in this direction

. and this is due to the choice of friends and enemies and also let's say. so this hierarchy depends on the hierarchy of the party of the parties. and i must say that now let's say, it doesn't even exist. discussed because what realism lies precisely in this, but what we have achieved now on february 24th. all the same, there were definitely strategic upheavals that provoked the need to revise the existing world order. the first is, of course, the potassium 19 pandemic. it was a global phenomenon, a global process that had its own consequences; the second shock is

the withdrawal of us troops from afghanistan, which also gave rise to a number, including in the eurasian space and in the world all that we need do. we must try to say. so it is difficult to disassemble this world, which was characterized by uncertainty and volatility. and also uncertainties of ambiguity. this is the kind of world we still live in, and any analysis that we as intellectuals make must be based on an analysis of cause and effect. there are many multifaceted consequences. we are talking about the fact that there are not only regional conflicts in the world, but, accordingly, the result is that in order to bring us to peace

, we must analyze. what will be the possibilities what will be the answer and the answer should not be dictated by any one country or any group of countries, but rather the answer should be more representative in nature. we analyzed, and it was clearly pleant to say that the name is valid, but it was proposed by the russian side and then we talk about the classical structure of hegemony and, let's say, this is the united states and its strategic allies and, accordingly, such a world is no longer possible. we say that if before all the power possessed, a certain group of countries, now, of course. we are talking about the decentralization of power, other centers of power in russia have appeared and therefore it is necessary to look at

this whole picture differently. there is one point that struck me, we are talking about empirical data about statistics in terms of population in terms of resources. even in terms of tours on capital. it seems to me that there are quite obvious conclusions that we can draw in this light. let's discuss. how are we now the world has been reformed, maybe other countries appear that are balancing accordingly , some alliances are coming to the fore or acting. of course, such a balancer, but this report is a world without death, zhafa offers

certain specific measures. how to balance this world order, because there are some things that we must analyze. if we put this report aside and we recently reviewed the national security strategy paper that was published in the us, it said respectively on maintaining the status. america at its best, a partnership spoke with and about building alliances with other countries of the world and in this match spoke categorically about the fact that russia is a threat to the european security system and the european economic system. and china also poses a definite systemic threat, so we accordingly go back to the american point of view, but on the other hand, look at the position.