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an inclusive text of speeches, i can’t spontaneously not cling to your finale since you remembered the tops and bottoms about the revolutionary situation. but those who are a little older taught all this at school. naturally, and who do you associate yourself with with the tops or tears now with tears, of course, i'm from the bottom. yes , my mother was like you, you know, many times i tell the family about this, a working father, a worker there, worked as a foreman, he recently graduated from a technical school. hmm , my mother did not even have a secondary education. she just been working uh babysitter worked at the hospital and and i didn’t work with anyone and worked as a janitor, a night watchman, well, i didn’t want to leave my children in kindergarten there, if that’s why, of course, i always, i always feel very subtly, thank god until recently it was and is. i hope to survive very subtly. i feel the pulse
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of what an ordinary person lives by, that is, at the world level you are on the side of those who do not want to. on a global level, uh, of course, it's included. how many of my duties to watch what's happening on a global level? i'm for what just seemed would, uh, for democratic relations, taking into account the interests of all participants in international communication, and not just the interests of the so-called golden billion. it is clear that we met exactly a year ago. at that time, the atmosphere and the international situation were already quite tense. but of course, when we look at that october, from this it seems that there just went a lot has changed in a year, literally the world has turned upside down, as some say. here for you personally, what has changed over this year inside, i don’t know in your perception of the world of the country
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what happened in the last and is happening. now, including let's say that the ukrainian direction. this is not a change that is taking place right now or after the start of russia's special military operation there are no all these changes. they have been going for many years for a long time just on this, uh, one way or another, someone pays attention, someone does not, but these are tectonic changes in the entire world order. you know these tectonic plates. they are constantly in motion, somehow somewhere in an earthly career. when the experts say there and move move everything is calm and quiet, but changes still occur. that's where once hooked energy accumulates accumulates, then it moved an earthquake occurs. here is the accumulation of this energy, so and uh, and then its
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surge, and such was brought about. here are the events that are taking place, but they happened before, after all. what is the essence of these ongoing events. uh, new centers of power are emerging. i talk about it all the time. yes, and not only i, did they happen in me, well, according to objective circumstances something means, er, already withering there from the former centers. now they do not speak, even now do not want to speak. and why is this happening, but this is, of course, a process of growth, er, withering away of change , new centers of power are being born, mainly in asia, of course, yes, africa is still ahead. yes, africa is very poor. uh, a very poor continent so far, but look at the potential, what a colossal latin america everything is, it will definitely develop completely, these tectonic changes are happening, but it’s not us, but the west brought to the current situation. if there are any questions
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, i'm ready to return to this once again to what is happening in ukraine, did we, or something, carry out a coup d'état there, which led to a series of, uh, tragic events, including uh, our special military operation? no, we didn't do it. er, well, never mind, the important thing is that tectonic changes are happening and will continue to happen. and uh, our actions here have nothing to do with them. yes, indeed, they just highlight the ongoing events more vividly and push some processes, to which are starting to develop may be faster than it has been so far, but uh, in general hmm they are inevitable. and this would happen, uh, regardless of how it acted in russia in the ukrainian direction. and if we say something
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new about our state in a year. they learned that, as far as our state is concerned, of course, we have uh, there are costs , and above all it concerns. e losses associated with a special military operation. i think about it all the time, but uh, there are economic losses. but there are huge acquisitions. and what happens without any doubt in the long run. i want to emphasize this, which ultimately benefits russia and its future. uh, with what is connected it is connected with the strengthening of our sovereignty it is connected. oh yes, and in all directions, and in this case, above all. e, in the economic sphere. after all, quite recently, we ourselves were anxiously thinking that we were turning into some kind of hmm semi-colony. we can't do anything without ours.
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uh, western partners, no financial calculations. not we can produce and we will not have the technology, which means there will be no markets. uh, no market whipped. there are no sources for acquiring eternal technologies , it’s worth not only clicking, and everything falls apart with us. but no, nothing collapsed, and the fundamental foundations for the existence of the russian economy and the russian federation itself turned out to be much stronger than anyone about it. i even thought, maybe we ourselves and this is a cleansing. this is an understanding of one's capabilities, the ability to quickly reorganize in e. today's e today's situations. and, uh, it is objectively necessary not only to speed up the process of import substitution, but also to replace those who are leaving our market. it turned out that in
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most areas. e. our business intercepts all those leaving all those leaving. they're still whispering, we're leaving for a while. we'll be back soon. well, how do they sell for one dollar, there are a lot of billions of property, why is management what is this, it means that an agreement has been reached by management that there is something to return? well, how else, that gifts are such two specific physical individuals, what to do? of course not, yes, we know these sentiments. here, uh, so uh, this is an extremely important thing. we ourselves finally realized. we say all the time, we are great, we are a great country, we can do it, we understand the negative medium-term consequences associated with the twisting of technologies. so we were already spinning all critical important technologies, like umov's lists, it seems, they canceled. they actually
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work for 10 years. now there are aggravations, of course, nothing. it turned out what we are getting, it turns out, and one more she, one very important component. she is so spiritual. and we can be, this is the most important thing, first of all. uh, this one, no matter how we throw such a broad slogan of ours, it actually sits deep in the heart of every russian and uh, representatives of other ethnic groups of russians. and, uh, the willingness to fight for your people leads to the cohesion of society, this has always been a huge strength of our country. we confirmed and strengthened it. and this is the most important thing, but there is something for this year in our country. and what do you really disappointed? no, there are no, so to speak,
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no special changes should be made. well, orc conclusions are always needed, if you have personnel decisions, this is a natural process. all the time i have to think about renewal in various areas, train new personnel, bring people to a new level who are able to work on tasks of a higher level than those they worked on before, of course, this is a natural thing. well, to say that here, uh, someone there about something disappointed. there needs to be someone like that out there. no, of course, your decision to launch a special military operation in february was, of course, a big surprise for everyone, including most russian citizens. you explained the logic and reasons many times, we know, but still, this is a decision of such a scale that are not
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made without some special push. what happened before this decision. well, uh, i've already said many times, i'm unlikely to say something new in this audience now, because what happened. e. well, i’m not talking about the expansion of nato there, which due to ukraine, which was absolutely unacceptable and for us and everyone knew it, well, they just ignored it. uh, they completely ignored our interests in the field of security and hmm, and another attempt at the end of last year once again failed, we were simply sent away and said everything. okay, sit there and okay. hmm, i won't say too much , but generally ignored ahh. this is the first, second thing that is important, which means that, with the support of their western curators, representatives of the kiev regime publicly refused to carry out
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minsk agreements. so, the leader said that he didn't like any, uh, clause in the minsk agreements publicly tells other senior officials, they bluntly stated that they were not going to do this. the former president said that he signed the german agreements, but assumed that they would never be implemented. well , what else is there? after all, it is one thing when something needs to be introduced into the minds of millions with the help of the internet mass media, and real politics is another thing. that's it passes, as if for millions. e people about what i just said, it is imperceptible, because it is drowning you in the information field, but we know this. all this was said, finally, what it meant for us for us, it meant that we should do something in donbass, people have been
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living under shelling for 8 years, which, by the way, are still ongoing. we had to decide something for ourselves. and that we could decide to recognize their independence, but to recognize their independence simply to give up on the production of fate. well it's with this fellowship unacceptable. so there should have been the following, what we did to include them in the russian state. they will not survive, this is an obvious fact, but if we recognize, uh, then, uh, we include the composition of the russian state at their will. we know the mood of the people, and, and these same shelling and hmm and preparing. uh, regular military operations by the kiev regime are ongoing and inevitable. the two of them carried out two large-scale military operations that ended unsuccessfully, but they were, but for shelling, uh, of course continued further. what we had to do was to
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carry out the operation overnight to wait until they start and we know about what they are preparing. well, of course, this is just an inevitable logic of events, and this logic was not formed by us. well, in 2014, why was it necessary to carry out a coup d'état in ukraine yanukovych actually renounced power and agreed to hold elections ahead of schedule. it was clear that, well, the chances of eco-fine would not offend me, but he had little chance. if they existed at all and why it was necessary to carry out services, bloody anti-state anti-constitutional coup. there is no answer, but maybe the only one is to show who is the boss in the house everyone sit. excuse me, m-m transmissions. i beg your pardon. everyone will sit on the priest evenly and will not quack as we say. well, that's different. i just can’t explain these actions, a coup d’état was carried out, people
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didn’t want to admit it either in crimea or in the donbass, and everything went and everything came to today, to today’s tragic events. well, what prevented the so-called west there implement the agreements that were reached in minsk yes, they personally told me, well, in those conditions and you would have signed everything, if you were in such conditions, but listen to me, uh, but they signed. they signed, which means they insisted that the leaders of the two then unrecognized republics of donbass put their signatures, then took one of them. uh, they killed zakharchenko in general well, that's it. all these actions led to today's tragic events. that's all. and no, you have feelings that, frankly, there is in society that the enemy was underestimated.
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no, we know what it is. the thing is, we've seen what's going on. well, it took 8 years to create a fortified area at a fairly large depth. e in the donbas well, of course, it ’s pointless to constantly climb here to bear losses without the founders, which means that this is the first second thing that we perfectly understood that this process would continue. and the farther away, the worse it would be for us, the more difficult, the more dangerous, and the thoughts would be higher than the loss. here are the considerations we are guided by. uh, reclaiming nato reclaiming territory. it was in full swing and is now going on, and then the districts would have been going not only along the line, today's contacts in the donbass would be everywhere. well, that's all, and and uh what we see now, when our troops are uh squeezing
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the donbass - this is one thing, but in the conditions when you created a fortified area there for several more years, training was conducted throughout the country and uh, they would accumulate uh a system of weapons there that never existed. well , many still don't. it would be a completely different situation for russia, and even in terms of this special operation. you have repeatedly said and written a program article that we are one people, you have not changed this point of view in a year. of course not. how can this fact be changed? this is a historical fact in the ninth century. hmm, in our territories, the russian state was born, first in novgorod, then in kiev, then all this grew together. eh means e. this is a single people who spoke the same old russian language and changes in the language began to
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appear, in my opinion, only uh, in uh, 14th or 15th century under the influence of e poland because the western parts of the russian state ended up in different countries. well, this is where the changes came from. of course, i spoke about this. uh, with the development of this or that ethnic group, different processes arise, if some part of this single ethnic group, uh, at some point decided that they had reached such a level that they consider themselves a separate people, this can only be treated with respect . well, of course, but this process did not happen by itself. it happened, firstly, as i said, because part of the e old russian western lands turned out to be made up of other states in a number of ways. the reasons these states began to promote their interests there, but those, uh parts that ended up in, say, poland, there was a clear polishing and so on, the language began to change, but i talked about
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this when ukraine joined russia, uh, they wrote letters in e. warsaw and moscow in the archives of iron documents it is written there that we are narrow orthodox people. we are addressing you there with such and such a request to russia, to moscow, with a request to be accepted into russia, and poland was asked to comply. uh, interests and hmm their orthodox traditions. well, we wrote russian orthodox people. that's not what i said. this is that part of the e people, which e, with which we now call ukrainians. yes, everything began to happen according to its own laws. uh, it means that a huge russian empire arose. hmm , european countries tried and created a kind of hmm barrier between themselves and the russian
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empire since, since ancient times, divide and rule. here began the attempts to partition. for the russian people in the 19th century, this began to happen . and it became more and more widespread and, uh, it was supported primarily by the west, of course, uh, in part of this population. hmm, that means, mmm. it was cultivated by someone who began to like it, and in its peculiarities there are historical linguistics, of course, they began to use it, as it were, for this very purpose. share power. nothing here. uh, it’s not so unusual, ehnu achieved certain goals unconditionally, and then it degenerated altogether hmm into cooperation with hitler during the second world war when, when, when ukrainian collaborators were used to carry out actions to destroy both russians and hmm, but the same
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poles and jews and belarusians, then this historical facts are well known. uh, so, uh, the punishers instructed the dirtiest bloody ones. uh, first of all, the bandera people are all part of our history, but the fact that u are basically russian ukrainians. this is in fact, one nation is e this is a historical fact. it is then a civil war is obtained by part of their own people, but in part, yes, but we ended up in different states. to unfortunately, for a whole number of reasons, and above all, because it was creating the soviet union after the collapse of the empire, as i already wrote in my articles and said repeatedly. uh, the bolshevik leadership of that time decided to appease the so nationalistically minded part, and the bolsheviks, who were originally from ukraine, which means to endow them with primordially russian
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historical territories, territories, without asking the population who lived in these territories, transferred all little russia there and that's it. uh, and here is the donbass, and at first they decided to give the donbass to russia, then a delegation from ukraine arrived, they came to vladimir and he called the representatives of the donbass and said it was necessary to change it. here they decided to give it back to ukraine, but uh, in this sense, in this sense, ukraine, of course. hmm took shape like artificial states. especially after the second world war. well, this is also a historical fact, stalin took and transferred to ukraine a number of polish territories, a number of hungarian romanian ones. uh, so by taking away from these countries uh these countries uh them territory, he poles, yes, which did not participate in the nazi coalition, part of the german lands of the eastern german zemledevich. all are well known
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. these are historical facts, this is how today's ukraine has developed, but, to be honest, now i just thought about this. and frankly speaking, the only real such serious guarantor of ukrainian state sovereignty and territorial integrity. it could only be russia that created today's ukraine. guarantor they said about guarantors, uh, i remember in the spring then it all went somewhere. still, the question is probably, uh, rhetorical , given that there is also fighting here. there 's a lot going on there, but uh, both you and russian officials have repeatedly said that the special operation is going according to plan. that's all the same, what kind of plan, to be honest, the society does not really understand what plan e you understand. uh, so we were originally, because i originally said, right on the day the
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operation began. uh, the most important thing we have is this help from the donbass well, look, then i already mentioned this. uh, and if we acted, otherwise we wouldn't be able to get there on both sides. uh, deploy our armed forces around the donbass. this is the first second uh, the second hmm uh, the lugansk people's republic is fully supported. there are military events related to the donetsk republic itself. and, of course, when our troops approached both from the south and the north and it became obvious that, what, that the people living in these historical novorossiysk territories do not see their future together with russia, how could we not respond to this. that's why those events happened witnesses that we all e are. hmm, they arose in the course, as a logical e, a continuation of the situation that has developed at this point
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in time, but the plan was and the only goal was to help people who live yes donbass yes, this comes from this. what exactly is there? uh, what the general staff is planning, but it's already i know, of course, that, but it seems to me that this is not the case when you need to go into details about this hmm thank you dear friends. well, i satisfied my primary curiosity by monopolizing. all now please those who wish can ask a question son. so let's start evans franchuk. ivan saranchuk mgimo you said that we are facing a very important decade in the development of the world and our country, but it seems that there are some doors to this decade. and so he me just a question about this door. lately, a lot
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closer closer. yes, it has grown exponentially in recent years. the intensity of nuclear rhetoric. ukraine has moved from simply irresponsible statements to the practical preparation of a nuclear provocation, and representatives of e. americans in the united states and britain, uh, make a statement, uh, in which there are such notes, but the permissibility of nuclear use of nuclear weapons. biden. let's say he talks about nuclear macedonia, and then in america there are comments in the spirit that they say it's not scary and at the same time, uh, the united states is rapidly deploying modernized tactical uh, tactical nuclear bombs in europe. uh, it turns out something like the fact that they are rattling nuclear weapons, and they
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refuse to recognize the lessons of the caribbean crisis. here. explain please, vladimir vladimirovich, the world is indeed on the threshold of the possibility of using nuclear weapons. and how will russia behave under these conditions as a responsible world and nuclear power? thanks e. watch as long as nuclear weapons exist there are always dangers of using them. the first second goal of today's fuss around nuclear threats and the possible use of nuclear weapons, it is very active. and i'm hardly mistaken if i say, what is it? well, i have already said that this is the dictate of the western countries. their attempt to push all participants in international communication,
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including neutral or friendly countries, ends with nothing and they are looking for additional arguments in order to convince our friends or neutral states that we all need to resist russia and uh with nuclear weapons, forcing the possibility of the thesis itself. perhaps the use of nuclear weapons by russia. uh, it’s set to be used precisely to achieve these goals to influence our friends , our allies, to influence neutral states to tell him, look, what kind of support do you have, what, uh, russia is a terrible country. you don't need to support it anymore. you don't have to cooperate with her. you don't have to buy anything. you don't have to sell them anything. in fact, something primitive , primitive goals, what is
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really happening with us? we, after all, proactive never said anything about the possible use of nuclear weapons by russia, but only hinted at the statements made by the leaders of western countries. well, here's madam alistras recently to me, uh, the recent prime minister of great britain she said bluntly, bluntly said in uh a conversation with representatives of the press. yes, in the uk a nuclear power, the duties of the prime mister include a possible application and will do so. well, it's not verbatim. yes, close to the text. i'm ready for this. well, as you know, he did not react in any way. well, let's say she drank a girl there, like a little crazy. well , well, how can you say such things in public , she said, well, they would correct her in washington according to
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publicly said, we have nothing to do with this . we don’t know and there was no need to offend, but simply from surveying, after all, everyone is silent. what should we think? we think that this is a concerted opposition, that we are being blackmailed. and why should we be completely silent to pretend that we did not hear anything, or what? with a series of other statements comes guidance on this matter. uh, so, the kiev regime constantly talks about its desire, uh, to possess nuclear weapons. this is the first part of the molizova ballet, and then they constantly go talk about what we are doing at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. what are we doing there? sometimes they say so directly, but they constantly hint at the fact
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that we are shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but they are not branded at all. we control this nuclear power plant. our troops are there. so i talked, well, a couple of months have already passed, probably with one of the western leaders. he says, take me away. what do you need to do? remove heavy weapons west from zaporozhye station i say i agree. we already done. there are no heavy weapons there. yes , to another, remove some nonsense. you see, you are laughing. that's funny, but it's actually almost verbatim. i listen, but there, uh, you asked for our uh to be at the station. uh, representatives are rich. we agreed they were there. they even refused to live in a hotel. they live right on the territory of the nuclear power plant right on the territory, they
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see with their own eyes what is happening, who is shooting where the shells are flying from? nobody talks about what ukrainian troops shelling atom power plants nobody. and they push? hype, well, this is nonsense but it would seem nonsense, but it happens in reality. so i, too, have already publicly said that, in my opinion, high-voltage power lines were knocked down by a sabotage group. uh, the kiev regime, uh, around the kursk station, but unfortunately, the fsb could not catch them, well, they will, i hope someday. gone, but they did it. we informed all western partners of silence, as if nothing was happening. that is, they they are striving for some kind of nuclear incident in
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order to lay responsibility on russia and , therefore, to inflate some new round of anti- russian sanctions against russia and so on of a different meaning. i just don't see. but this is the data of the special services about the fact that they are preparing some kind of incident of the so-called dirty bomb just to do. we even know where to do it. well, the remnants of nuclear fuel there have slightly transformed the technologies available in ukraine allow you to do this, they loaded it into a point at or somewhere else was blown up somewhere by a nuclear device, they said that it was russia that made a nuclear strike. we don't need him to do this. we have no meaning. not political, not military. so, no,
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they do. and it was i who instructed shoigu to call all his colleagues and inform him about it. but we can not ignore such things. right now they say a lot of people want to come check it out, m-m. uh, nuclear facilities. we are for ukraine and we need to do this as soon as possible and as widely as possible, because that we know that now the kiev authorities are doing everything to cover up the traces of this and preparation. and finally, about the use of non-use. uh, the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state is the united states of america, they did it twice against japan. for what purpose was there
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no military expediency at all? well, what was the expediency of using nuclear weapons against hiroshima and nagasaki practically against the civilian population? that there was some kind of threat territorial integrity of the united states sovereignty? no, of course not. and there was no longer any military expediency. on the japanese war machine was broken, the possibilities for resistance were reduced to almost zero. why was it necessary to finish off japan with nuclear weapons, by the way, japanese textbooks. e, as a rule, they write that it was the allies who launched a nuclear strike on japan, so they can’t write this japan in textbooks, really. although like every year remember this tragedy. well done americans. you just need to take examples. she is in some ways just handsome with them, but this is
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happening, this is life, but so the united states is the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons. and she did it because she thought that it was you who were in their interests, as far as russia is concerned, we have a military doctrine. let it be read in accordance with the articles of this war of doctrine written. in what cases, on what occasion, in connection with what and in what way does russia consider it possible to use weapons of mass destruction in the form of nuclear weapons to protect its sovereignty territorial integrity to ensure the security of the russian people. here we have literally tomorrow 60 years of the main day of the caribbean crisis. here is the climax, when they actually decided to retreat. you can imagine yourself as one, or rather. khrushchev, it turns out
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that such a thing cannot be reached, in no case will we reach it. no, i can’t imagine in the role of khrushchev in any way well, but in the role of leaders who will have to resolve this issue, we are ready to resolve any issues, we are no longer refusing. we made a proposal to the united states last december. continue dialogue on strategic stability. they did not answer us in december last year. silence, if they want, we are ready, please, and if they don’t want, do n’t, we develop our own. uh, modern delivery vehicle technologies, including, uh, hypersonic weapons, we basically don’t need anything. we feel self-sufficient, damn it. yes, it is clear that someday they will catch up with us in terms of hypersonic weapons. this is obviously a high-tech country. it's here it's only a matter of time, but haven't caught up yet. we still have and we are developing these technology, if hmm someone wants to have a
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dialogue with us about this. we are ready please. so rysigan maharad, please, give me a pull. thank you very much if you can answer the acceleration of crises continues, in particular the human potential and competence of the future is possible.
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let's be pretty gloomy. particularly in terms of reform of the payment system, what do you think a more democratic version of the current settlement and payments system might look like now. this is one of the key questions one of the key questions. uh, today's development and the future of not only the financial system, but also the world order means that after the second world war, the united states created a branded narrow system, strengthened it many times in a variety of vectors. uh, created international institutions that are under their control, uh, and in the field of finance
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in the field of international trade. they falter obviously. so, a huge mistake on the part of the states, i already talked about using it. uh, cheated as a weapon in the fight for their own political interests. this undermines confidence in the dollar. well, to others. uh, reserve currencies are fundamentally undermining. believe me. i know what i 'm saying because everyone's up to it. is it worth keeping means gold and foreign exchange reserves in dollars. it's not so easy to get out of the dollar, because the americans have created a very powerful system that keeps uh, these reserves do not release them, in fact it is very difficult to get out, but uh, everyone is thinking about the future. so, i already said, i can only repeat. where do we see the future of financial international financial system well, first of all, uh, this is such a common general message, nevertheless, all countries
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should have it. uh, sovereign development is secured. need to be treated. with respect to the choice of any country. this is also important even in relation to the financial system. it must be independent , depoliticized and, of course, it must be based on financial systems. leading countries of the world, and now, if this is created, and this is not a simple process, it is very complex. but it is possible that then international institutions will work more effectively. they need either reform or re-create international institutions. e help, er, to those countries that need this support, and above all. uh, it will be necessary to provide on the basis of this new financial system . uh, transfer formation and
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technology transfer. now, if you sum it all up together, collect it. uh, as a palette of the necessary possibilities for the realization of opportunities, then the economic model itself and the financial system, and it will meet the interest of the majority, and not just the interest of this golden golden billion, oh which we spoke. uh, and uh, like forerunners or something? this is the creation of such a system. uh, this is, of course, uh, the need to expand the expansion of hmm and settlements in national currencies. hmm, and taking into account the fact that the us financial authorities use the dollar, as a weapon and create problems for the calculation of e, not only to us, but also to our partners and other countries. e, of course, here is the desire for independence, it
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will inevitably develop the calculation of its national currencies. for example, with india, we have exports, in my opinion, already 53%, we use in calculations national currency, i don’t know about imports somewhere, about 27 percent, and combs are developing very actively with other countries. it is developing very actively with china. hmm, settlements in yuan and rubles and with other countries will not list everyone. yes, so here it is. eh, as for the financial system itself, in my opinion. eh, the general path of development is creation. you're politicized based on national e -currency systems. uh, such a supranational world monetary system? uh, which would uh certainly ensured the calculation of this, perhaps in the end one way or another and proceeding. here
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, take the first steps in the calculation of national flights, then at the regional level. well, i think this process will develop. uh, colleagues, please, when you ask a question, introduce yourself? here is the maharaj rasseghan, we have a guar, to make it clear , and alika is a skandary. vladimir arrived from armenia and my question a concerns, and discourses have recently intensified on my country in my region, and the preparation of an agreement e between arbedev azerbaiden and, uh, these discus, basically that there are two, uh, competing projects. yes , well, so to speak, russian proposed. uh, russian intermediary and uh, western ah situation, quite a risky situation. and uh, in general
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there are uh risks in the region, they are very calm. and what does russia think in this sense? how is russia going to react to this situation, and how does russia plan to act further in this context? thank you, you know. i don't know if they even talked about it before or not, publicly, they may have spoken. or maybe not, but i will say i don’t see here, even if they didn’t say, there are no secrets, i don’t see any, we have been leading for many years. uh, dialogue with uh the armenian side and uh, they proposed to resolve the issue related to karabakh in the following way. after all. uh, armenia actually controlled seven regions of azerbaijan, we said, well, let's move towards the normalization of relations. there are two
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districts that are in alibajak and, uh, to the south, so these are the corridors, but the large districts. yes, at what stage? uh, hmm let's deal with azerbaijani side? give away five districts, but they are not needed senselessly, they are just empty. there , uh, people left. hmm, in fact, they were expelled from these territories. there is no point in keeping them, and for connection with karabakh, uh, two regions are huge, by the way, it is quite enough, and hmm, we think that it would be fair to return the refugees and so on. and this would be a good step towards normalizing the situation in the region as a whole. well, uh, the armenian leadership went their own way. uh, as you know, this is the situation that has developed today
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day is now a question. ah, regulation. e. about the peace treaty, our position is that peace is, of course, needed. and we support this, uh, peaceful settlement as well as the delimitation, which means the borders and a fully settled border issue. we are for this question. uh. which e which option to choose this case. uh, the armenia of the armenian people and the armenian leadership in any case, no matter which option is chosen. uh, if it leads to peace, we are all for it, but we are not going to impose anything. we cannot impose, uh armenia and we are not going to dictate to armenia what is it? if army.

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