tv Mezhdunarodnoe obozrenie RUSSIA24 October 29, 2022 10:00am-11:01am MSK
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we met exactly a year ago at that time . the atmosphere and the international situation were already quite tense. but of course, when we look at that october, it seems that there was just an idyll that changed a lot in a year, literally the world turned upside down, as some say. here for you personally, what has changed within this year inside, i don’t know your perception of the world of the country, what happened recently and is happening now , including, say, in the same ukrainian direction. it's not a change that's happening right now or after the start of russia's special military operation
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there are no all these changes. they have been going for many years for a long time just on this, one way or another, someone pays attention, and someone does not, but these are tectonic changes in the entire world order. you know these tectonic plates. they are constantly in motion, somehow somewhere in korea on earth. when, as experts say, they move there and move everything is calm and quiet, but changes still occur. that's where once hooked energy accumulates accumulates. he moved an earthquake occurs. here is the accumulation of this energy, so and uh, and then its surge, and such was brought about. here are the events that are taking place, but they happened before, after all. what is the essence of these ongoing events. uh, new centers of power are emerging. i talk about it all the time. yes, not only i, did they occur in me, well, according to objective circumstances
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, something means, uh, it is already fading. there from the former cents of forces. now they do not speak, even now do not want to speak. and why is this happening, but it is, naturally, a process of growth, uh, withering away of changes new centers of power are born, mainly in asia of course. so africa is still ahead. yes, africa is very poor. eh, a very poor continent so far, but look at the potential, what a colossal latin america everything is, it will definitely develop completely, these tectonic changes are happening, but this is what not we, but the west has brought to the current situation. if there are any questions , i am ready to return to this once again to what is happening in ukraine, we, or something, carried out a coup d'état there, which led to a series of e tragic events, including our special military operation? no, we didn't do it.
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well, it doesn't matter what is important is that tectonic changes are taking place and will continue to take place. and our actions here have nothing to do with them. yes indeed, they just highlight the events taking place more vividly and push some processes that begin to develop maybe faster than they have been so far, but uh, in general hmm they are inevitable. and it would happen, uh, no matter how acted across russia in the ukrainian direction your decision to launch a special military operation in february. it was, of course. this is a big surprise for everyone, including for the majority of russian citizens, you have repeatedly explained the logic and reasons , we know, but still this is a decision of such a scale
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that, probably, is not made without some kind of special impetus. what happened before this decision. eh, i have already said many times, it is unlikely that i will say something new in this audience now, because what happened. e. well, i'm not talking about nato expansion there. which, due to ukraine, which was absolutely unacceptable and for us, everyone knew it, well, they simply ignored it. uh, they completely ignored our interests in the field of security and uh, and another attempt at the end of last year once again failed, we were simply sent away and everything was said. okay, sit there and okay. i won't say too much, but in general they ignored it. and this is the first second thing that is important, which means that, with the support of their western curators
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, representatives of the kiev regime, they publicly refused to comply with the german agreements. so the leader said he didn't like any of the, uh, clause b of the minsk agreements, other senior officials said outright that they weren't going to do that. the former president said that he signed the german agreements because they would never be implemented, but what else is needed is one thing when something needs to be introduced into the minds of millions using the internet media, and another business, real business, real politics. this is how it all goes would be for millions. e people about what i just said, it is imperceptible, because it is drowning you in the information field, but we know this. that's all it was said, finally, what it meant for us for us it meant that we should do something. people have been living under shelling for 8 years, which, by the way,
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continues to this day. we had to decide something for ourselves. and that we could decide to recognize their independence, but to recognize their independence simply to give up on the production of fate. well, this communication is unacceptable. so, they should have do the following, what we have done include them in the russian state. they will not survive, this is an obvious fact, but if we recognize, uh, then, uh, we include the composition of the russian state at their will. we know the mood of the people. eh, yes, uh, these same shellings and hmm and being prepared. uh, regular military operations by the kiev regime are ongoing and inevitable. the two of them carried out two large-scale military operations, which ended unsuccessfully, but they were, and the
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shelling would, er, certainly continued further. we what they had to do to carry out the operation, but what to wait until they start and we know about what they are preparing. well, of course, this is just an inevitable logic of events, and this logic was not formed by us. well, in 2014 why was it necessary to carry out a coup d'état in ukraine, yanukovych actually gave up power, agreed to hold elections ahead of schedule it was clear that, well, chances, uh, would not offend me, but he had little chance. if they existed at all and why it was necessary to carry out services , a bloody anti-state anti-constitutional coup. no answer but maybe the only one is to show who is the boss in the house everyone sit. excuse me, m-m in front of the ladies, i apologize. everyone will sit on the priest and not quack will be as we say. well, that
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's different. i just can’t explain these actions, a coup d’état was carried out, people didn’t want to admit it either in crimea or in the donbass, and everything went and everything came to today, to today’s tragic events. well, what prevented the already so-called west from realizing the agreements that were reached in minsk . yes, they told me personally, well, in those conditions and you would have signed everything, if you were in such conditions, they signed it. they signed, and therefore insisted that the leaders of the two then unrecognized republics of donbass put their signatures, then took one of them. uh, killed in general, zakharchenko well, that's it, all these actions led to today's tragic events. that's all. but you don’t have the feeling that,
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frankly, there is in society, that the enemy was underestimated. no, we know what's up. the thing is, we've seen what's going on, but uh years, they created a fortified area to a sufficiently large depth. e in the donbass well, of course, climbing here constantly to bear losses without meaningless founders, which means that this is the first second thing that we perfectly understood and were aware of. too that this process is going to continue. and the further the worse it would be for us, the more difficult the more dangerous, and if we had more losses, that's what considerations we were guided by. uh, the development of the nato development of the territory - it was in full swing and is now underway, and then the area was going on would not only along the line, today's contacts would be everywhere. well, that's all and and this is what we see now,
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when the north of our troops is attacked, and the donbass is squeezed - this is one thing, and in conditions where a fortified area would be created there for a few more years, training was conducted throughout the country and e , would have accumulated there , uh, weapons system, which uh, which never existed, well, many do not exist now. it would be a completely different situation for russia, even from the point of view of this special operation. you have repeatedly spoken and written a program article, that we are one people you have not changed this point of view for a year. of course not. how can this fact be changed? this is a historical fact in the ninth century, in our territories, the russian state was born, first in novgorod, then in kiev, then all this grew together. eh means e. this is a single people who spoke the same
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old russian language and changes in the language, then , in my opinion, began to arise only in the e, in the 14th or 15th century under the influence of e poland, because the western parts of the russian state ended up in different countries. well, this is where the changes came from. of course, i spoke about this. uh, with the development of this or that ethnic group, different processes arise, if some part of this single ethnic group, uh, at some point decided that they had reached such a level that they consider themselves a separate people, this can only be treated with respect . well, of course, but this process did not happen by itself. it took place, firstly, as i have already said, because part of the ancient russian western lands turned out to be composed of other states in a whole series. these reasons states have become hmm to promote their interests there. well, uh, those parts that got into
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, say, poland there was an obvious one, and polishing and so on, the language began to change, but i talked about this when ukraine joined russia, uh, they wrote letters in uh. warsaw and moscow in the zhelezyak archive of documents it is written there, we are russian orthodox people. we are addressing you there with someone with someone in russia, we applied to moscow with a request to accept a c. poland was asked to comply. uh, interests and their orthodox traditions. well, we wrote russian orthodox people. that's not what i said. this is that part of the e people, which e, with which we now call ukrainians. yes, everything began to happen according to its own laws. uh, it means that a huge russian empire arose. hmm uh, the european countries tried and created partly such a hmm barrier between themselves and the russian
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empire of well-known principles. ever since uh, since ancient times, divide and conquer. here began the attempts to partition. united russian people in the 19th century, this began to happen, but it acquired everything more and more scope and uh, supported above all. of the west, of course, er in part of this population. it means that it was cultivated by someone who began to like it and its peculiarities are historical linguistic, of course, they began to use it exactly for this purpose. share power. nothing here. uh, there is no such uh unusual, uh, they achieved certain uh, goals, of course, and then it degenerated altogether hmm in cooperation with hitler during the second world war when uh, when ukrainian collaborators were used for uh
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carrying out actions to destroy the russians and on the same poles and jews and belarusians. so it's well known. this is a historical fact. uh, it means that the punishers entrusted the dirtiest shelters. cases primarily bandera. well, uh, that's all, it's part of our history, but what uh is basically russian ukrainians. this is, in fact, there is one people. this is a historical fact, but then we have a civil war, it turns out to be a part. actually the people, but in part, yes, but u we ended up in different states. unfortunately, due to a whole range of reasons, and above all, because creating the soviet union after the collapse of the empire, as i have already written in my articles and said more than once. uh, the bolshevik leadership of that time decided to appease the so nationalistically minded part, and the bolsheviks, who were
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originally from ukraine, which means to endow them with primordially russian historical territories, territories, without asking the population who lived in these territories, transferred all little russia there and that's it . here is the donbass, and the donbass first they decided to give it back to russia, then a delegation from ukraine arrived, they came to vladimir and he called the representatives of donbass and said it was necessary to change it. here they decided to give it back to ukraine, but hmm well, in this sense, in this sense, ukraine, of course. hmm took shape like artificial states. especially after the second world war. well, this is also a historical fact, stalin took and transferred to ukraine a number of polish territories, a number of hungarian romanian ones. uh, so, uh, having taken away from these countries u these countries u their territories, he is a pole, yes, which did not participate in the nazi coalition
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part of the german lands of the eastern german lands. all these same historical facts are well known , so today's ukraine has developed, but, to be honest, now i just thought about this. frankly speaking, the only real so serious guarantor of the ukrainian stateswoman sovereignty and territorial values. it could be only russia that created today's ukraine. guarantor well , they talked about guarantors, i remember in the spring then all this somewhere gone. still, the question is probably rhetorical , given that there is also fighting here. there 's a lot going on there, but uh, both you and russian officials have repeatedly said that the special operation is going according to plan. that's all the same, what kind of plan, to be honest, the society does not really understand what plan e you understand. e, so we are originally, because
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i am originally. i said right on the day the operation began. uh, the most important thing we have is this help from donbass well, look. yes, i have already mentioned this. uh, and if we acted, otherwise we wouldn't could be there on both sides. uh, deploy our armed forces around the donbass. this is the first second uh, the second hmm uh, the lugansk people's republic is fully supported. there are military events related to the donetsk republic itself. and, of course, when our troops approached both from the south and the north and it became obvious that, what, that the people living in these historical novorossiysk territories do not see their future together with russia, how could we not respond to this. therefore, those events took place as witnesses, which we all e are hmm they arose in the course, as a logical e, a continuation of the
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e situation that has developed at this point in time, but the plan was and the goal was only to help people who live in the donbass yes, this is what we proceed from. what exactly is there? uh, what to plan the general staff, but it is necessary. i know, of course, that, but it seems to me that this is not the case when it is necessary to be in detail about this. hmm thanks. 10 percent cashback on everything until the end of the year. order a debit alpha card with eternal free service alpha bank is the best mobile bank in birthday of the housing lottery guaranteed to win an apartment for 30 million. buy a ticket everything can come true . open the door to your dream the bank
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now, please, those who wish can ask a question, and so let's start ivan with franchuk. and ivan sranchuk of mgimo, you said that we have a very important decade ahead in the development of the world and our country, but it seems that there are some doors to this decade. and here i have just a question about this door. lately a lot closer closer. yes, a microphone. yes, it
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has grown exponentially in recent years. the intensity of nuclear rhetoric. ukraine has moved from simply irresponsible statements to practical preparations for a nuclear provocation, and representatives of the united states and britain, uh, are making statements, uh, in which there are such notes, and the permissibility of nuclear use of nuclear weapons. biden. let's say he talks about nuclear armageddon. and right there in america there are comments in the spirit that they say it’s not scary and at the same time, uh, the united states in an expedited manner deploy modernized tactical e, tactical nuclear bombs in europe. uh, it turns out something like the fact that they are rattling around with nuclear weapons, and they refuse to recognize the lessons of the caribbean crisis. here. please explain, vladimir vladimirovich, the world
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is indeed on the threshold of the possibility of using nuclear weapons. and how will russia behave in these conditions as a responsible world and nuclear power. thanks e. watch as long as nuclear weapons exist there are always dangers of using them. first second e goal e today's fuss over nuclear threats and the possible use of nuclear weapons, it is very primitive. and i can hardly be mistaken if i say, what is it, huh? well, i have already said that this is the dictate of the western countries. their attempt to put pressure on all participants in international communication, including neutral or friendly to us strange ends in nothing and
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they are looking for additional arguments in order to convince our friends or neutral resources that we all need to resist russia together and a. ah, provocations with nuclear weapons, forcing the possibility of the thesis itself about the possible use of nuclear weapons by russia. uh, it was put precisely on, it is used precisely to achieve these goals, to influence our friends, our allies, to influence neutral states to tell him , look, whom do you support there, what, uh, russia is a terrible country. you don't need to support it anymore. no need to cooperate with her, no need to buy anything from her. you don't have to sell them anything. actually it is primitive primitive goals what is really going on with us we after all, uh, hmm proactive
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never said anything about the possible use of nuclear weapons by russia, but only hinted at the statements made by the leaders of western countries. well, mrs. alistras recently told me, uh, the recent prime minister of great britain. she said bluntly, she said bluntly in uh, a conversation with representatives of the press. yes, in the uk a nuclear power, the prime minister's duties are included in the possible application and will do so. well, it's not verbatim. yes, close to text. i'm ready for this. well, as you know, he did not react in any way. well, let's say she took a sip there, such a girl is a little out of her mind. well, how can you say such things in public ? well, if they would correct her in washington, they would publicly say, we have nothing to do with this.
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we don’t know and there was no need to offend, but simply from surveying, after all, everyone is silent. what should we think? we think that this is a concerted opposition that we are beginning to be blackmailed. and that we should be completely silent to pretend that we are nothing heard, right? with a series of other statements comes guidance on this matter. uh, so the kiev regime constantly talks about its aspirations. hmm, it has nuclear weapons. this is the first part of the morozonsky ballet, and then there is constant talk about what we are doing at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. what are we doing there? sometimes they say so directly, but they constantly hint at the fact that we are shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but they are not branded at all. we're in
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control. this is a nuclear power plant. there are troops are ours. so i talked, well, a couple of months have already passed, probably with one of the western leaders. he says, take me away. what do you need to do? remove heavy weapons, spare- zaporozhye station, i say, i agree. we have already done. there are no heavy weapons there. yes, on another, remove some nonsense. you see, here you are laughing at the real thing. that's funny, but it's actually almost verbatim. i listen, but there, uh, you asked for our uh to be at the station. uh, representatives are rich. we are they agreed there. they even refused to live in a hotel. they live right on the territory of the nuclear power plant right on the territory, they see with their own eyes what is happening, who is shooting where the shells are flying from? after all, no one is talking about the fact that
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ukrainian troops are shelling the atom of power plants, no one. and they push? hype, well, this is nonsense but it would seem nonsense, but it happens in reality. so i, too, have already publicly said that there are, in my opinion, three or four. uh, you knocked down high-voltage power lines. uh, sabotage group. e on the kyiv regime. uh, around the kursk station, but unfortunately, the fsb could not catch them, well, they will, i hope someday. gone, but they did it. we informed all western partners of silence, as if nothing was happening. that is, they are striving for some kind of nuclear incident in order to lay responsibility on russia and , therefore, to inflate some new round of anti-
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russian sanctions against russia and so on of a different meaning. i just don't see. but this is happening now new, so the idea is not accidental released data from the secret services about the fact that they are preparing some kind of incident of the so-called dirty bombs just to do. we even know where to do it. well, the remnants of nuclear fuel there slightly transformed the technologies available in ukraine allow it to be loaded there at point u or somewhere else they blew up nuclear devices somewhere, they said that it was russia that launched a nuclear strike. he we don't need to do that. we have no meaning. not political, not military. so no, you they do. and it was i who instructed shoigu to call
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all his colleagues and inform him about it. but we cannot ignore such things. now they are saying that the iaea wants to come and check , check, m-m. uh, nuclear facilities. we are for ukraine and we need to do this as soon as possible and as widely as possible, because we know that now the kiev authorities are doing everything to cover up the traces of this and preparation. and finally, about the use of non-use. uh, the only country in the world that used nuclear weapons. against a non-nuclear state is the united states of america she they did it twice against japan for what purpose? in the military, in military expediency, there was no zero at all. well, what was the expediency of using
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nuclear weapons against hiroshima and nagasaki practically against the civilian population? that there was some kind of threat to the territorial integrity of the united states to sovereignty? no, of course not. and there was no longer any military expediency. the war machine of japan was broken by the possibilities to resistance was reduced to almost zero. why was it necessary to finish off japan with nuclear weapons, by the way, japanese textbooks. e, as a rule, they write that it was the allies who launched a nuclear strike on japan , so they can’t write this japan in school textbooks, really. although like every year remember this tragedy. well done americans. you just have to take an example, probably, in some ways they are just handsome, but this is happening, this is life, but so the united states is the only country in the world that
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has used nuclear weapons. and did it because he thought that it was you in their interest, as for russia, we have a military doctrine. let it be read in the relevant articles of this war doctrine written. in what cases, on what occasion, in connection with what and in what way does russia consider it possible to use weapons of mass destruction in the form of nuclear weapons to protect its sovereignty, territorial integrity to ensure the security of the russian people. here we have literally tomorrow 60 years of the main day of the caribbean crisis. here is the climax when actually decided to retreat. you can imagine yourself as one, or rather. khrushchev, it turns out that in no case will we reach it. no, i can’t imagine in the role of khrushchev in any way
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well, but in the role of leaders who will have to resolve this issue, we are ready to resolve any issues, we are no longer refusing. we made a proposal to the united states last december. continue dialogue on strategic stability. they did not answer us in december last year. silence, if they want, we are ready, please, ah if they don't want it, don't, we develop our own. uh, modern delivery vehicle technologies, including, uh, hypersonic weapons, we basically don’t need anything. we feel self-sufficient. eh, yes, it’s clear that someday they will catch up with us in terms of hypersonic weapons. it's obviously a high tech country it's here it's only a matter of time but haven't caught up yet. we still have and we are developing these technologies, if hmm someone wants to have a dialogue with us on this issue, we are ready please, ah. uh, vladivostovich, i'm from armenia
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i arrived and my question a concerns my country, my region, recently the discourses have become more active, and the preparation of the treaty. uh, no orbit liberated and, uh, these discus, basically that there are two, uh, competing projects. yes , well, so to speak, russian proposed. uh, russian mediator and uh, western ah situation, quite a risky situation, and hmm in general there are uh risks in the region, they are very calm. and what does russia think in this sense? how is russia going to react to this situation, and how does russia plan to proceed in this context? thank you. you know. hmm
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. i don't know if they even talked about it before or not, publicly, maybe they did. or maybe not, but i ’ll say i don’t see here, even if they didn’t say, there are no secrets, i don’t see any. for many years we had a dialogue with the armenian side and proposed to resolve the issue related to karabakh in the following way. after all. uh, armenia actually controlled seven regions of azerbaijan, we said, well, let's move towards the normalization of relations. there are two regions which are from alibadzhak and are further south, so these are the corridors, but the large areas, right? at what stage? eh? hmm let's agree with the azerbaijani side? give away five districts, but
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they are not needed senselessly. they are just empty there. uh, people left, they were actually expelled from these territories. there is no point in keeping them, but for connection with karabakh, uh, two regions are huge, by the way, it is quite enough and hmm, we think that it would be fair to turn the refugees back and so on. and that would be a good step. normalization of the situation in the region as a whole. well, uh, the armenian leadership went their own way. e, as you know, this is the situation that has developed today. now the question of e-regulation of the peace treaty. our position is that this peace treaty is, of course, needed. and we support this uh peace settlement as well as the delimitation. uh, something of a border and a complete
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settlement of the border issue. we are for this question. eh, which one? eh? which option to choose is the armenia of the armenian people and the armenian guides. in any case, whichever option is chosen. uh, if this leads to peace, we are only for, but we are not going to impose anything. we cannot impose on armenia and we are not going to dictate to armenia what this is? if the armenian people, the current armenian leadership believes that, well, it is necessary to choose a specific version of this peace treaty for the so-called washington, as i understand it, it provides for recognition of azerbaijan's sovereignty over karabakh as a whole, but if armenia thinks so, well please we will support any choice of the armenian
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people, if the armenian people and hmm armenia consider uh, the armenian leadership believes that u karabakh has some peculiarities. so it is necessary to take into account the peculiarities and somehow it needs to be discussed in the future in the contract. this is also possible, but definitely. uh, we need to negotiate with azerbaijan, it is necessary that these agreements are acceptable for, uh, the other side for azerbaijan. this is a very complex and frankly difficult question, but armenia is our strategic partner ally, and we, of course, to a large extent, meaning uninteresting. e, azerbaijan we will focus on what the army itself will offer. 2 years ago, uh, in our conversations, we spoke very highly of president erdogan that he does not wag his tail and is a real
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man. uh, in those 2 years a lot of things happened too. your score remains the same. well, yes, he is a strong strong leader, who is guided primarily, or maybe exclusively by the interests of turkey, the turkish people and the interests of, uh, this means that the turkish economy, to a large extent , explains its position on energy issues in construction issues. let's say we proposed a turkish stream, and now uh hmm, and the turkish side also agreed to create a gas hub in turkey for consumers in europe, of course, primarily based on their own interests. uh, so there are a lot of interests in the tourism sector, a lot of interests in the construction sector, and a lot of interests in agriculture. we have, uh,
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a lot of matching vectors. e mutual interests and therefore, yes, and president erdogan never allows himself to sit on his neck and uh and uh. guided by the interests of third parties, but he, of course, defends their dialogues with us, first of all for his own interests, and in this sense, turkey in general and president erdogan in particular are not easy partners; many decisions are born in such lengthy and difficult disputes, negotiations, but there is a desire to both sides reach these agreements. and we usually reach these arrangements in this sense erdogan is, of course, a consistent and reliable partner. here, perhaps, this is probably the most important characteristic. he is a reliable partner. and he himself
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does not try to sit on your neck, for example, you know, i said that the president of turkey is not an easy partner, and he always defends his interests. well, not personal, but the interests of the country. uh, well, it's impossible to say that it is to sit on the neck. he 's just fighting for what his government and his advisers think is the best solution. we're fighting to make the solutions were, uh, and optimal for us. well, as a rule, i repeat, we find these solutions even on very sensitive issues. here in syria, let's say, yes, security issues. hmm well, the economy, including infrastructure so far, we have managed to do all this again. once again, this is extremely important. ah, well, we understand that if we went through the hard way, it was difficult to
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finish, but we agreed on something you can be sure that it will be done. this is the most important reliability and stability in these relations cuba from rakhimov the kyrgyz republic dear vladimir vladimirovich russia indeed undoubtedly the leader of the new anti-colonial movement, russia's adherence to traditional conservative prices also receives a wide response all over the world, but during the work of our valdai club. we saw a very serious request for social justice for a fair organization of social relations. eh, how do you see it, what could be useful, like the experts of the valdai club? this is my first question and second question. but as you evaluate the prospects for moving the capital of the russian federation to the center of the country, in fact, in the center of the eurasian continent in order to
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be closer to the countries of the shanghai cooperation organization, as for a more equitable arrangement of the social social structure in russia, according to the russian constitution, we have social. here we are, of course, everything we do, all our national development goals are dedicated to solving social problems. here, uh, here you can talk for hours. uh time, even today a day will not be enough, everything that we do is aimed precisely at this, at solving the social problems facing the russian state. and we have a lot of them, including many unsolved problems. i already spoke about it. i repeat once again, so we need to, e, develop the economy, and on this basis solve the issues of healthcare, education, technological development, change the structure of our economy, structural changes are the most important, but the labor market will change, and in this regard. of course, we must think about those people who
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will be released from their old jobs. let's carry out retraining in new competencies and so on, therefore. what about the valdai club? here, uh, experts gather in a variety of very different areas and hmm if at the expert level, we will be prompted by development trends in key areas. we would of course be grateful er for having your opinion in mind when building our plans, considering. uh, so your position on these trends, oh, which i just said, because understanding what will happen tomorrow, but it is possible and necessary to build a policy today on the transfer. e capitals hmm yes such talk. we have hmm uh, well, we were once transferred uh in the capital, so repeatedly. it was in the history of the russian state. e hmm russia uh, as it were. historically, the
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mental center of russia is always associated with moscow, and in my opinion. some kind of need. there are problems in the development of the capital, like megapolis, and i must say that under the leadership of the team of the current mayor sobyanin, they are being solved much better. than in many other countries of the world and in many other megacities there was a period when they were growing here, but they are happy in part , the problems associated with transport are growing, with the development of social infrastructure and so on, but still in recent years. uh, mayor sobyanin did a lot to stop these uh these threats and vice versa to create, uh, conditions for uh, so that uh, muscovites and those who come to moscow for
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work or guests of moscow, uh, who come here with tourist felt like targets here comfortably, a lot has been done for the development of the city in the last few years. hmm well, this is the problem of excessive centralization of all, uh, federal structures in moscow, it exists and just like in some other countries. for example, i am a supporter of doing the same thing as some other countries, namely decentralization. and uh, specific plans construction. supreme court. well, you need to do this slowly and calmly, creating from uh the judicial
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community favorable conditions for uh to work in the same st. petersburg, and we will do it without any haste and fuss. uh, some hmm some some uh, big companies that, let's say, actually operate in siberia and have their central government in moscow could have their headquarters there. by the way, this is what is happening. there will be e ru-rushydr, for example, well, it settles in itself, in my opinion, in krasnoyarsk they, in my opinion, establish their headquarters there, and equip them for the central authorities. it could be that some of them could be targeted once they are concentrated on the territory of the russian federation, this will only benefit both the management system itself and the region where they will appear. well, alexander andreevich will not get around you. very often foreigners ask us,
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but what can you offer russia to today's world, where are your nobel laureates, where are your great discoveries of industrial scientific discovery my colleagues often answer that, well, what about the great russian culture of pushkin, rubles, icon painting is one on russian architecture, but they say, well , that's it, it's in the past, but today and at this moment today i was listening, i didn’t open up what russia can offer russia of today's world can offer a religion of justice, because this religion, this feeling lies at the root of our entire russian culture of all our russian sacrifice, and today russia is making this sacrifice. she exists alone alone alone with everything else cruel western world is leading this fight for
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justice. this is a huge contribution to today's russia here in the context. e of the world civilization of world culture, because even here are those former traditional e values, about which we spoke, the same ruble of russian icon painting and also amazing russian architecture, novgorod pskov and e, the amazing golden silver age. they all talked about justice ideology of the religion of justice. we have four traditional confessions, it will be enough for us. this is the first. this is a joke, of course, it means about doing something, you know, it means that i follow your work, your creativity, when well , there is time, i enjoy reading what you
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write. speak of course, i know that you are such a real russian patriot in the kindest good broadest sense of the word. uh, do we need to present something specially to someone? i'm not sure about this, you know what you are now said that we, uh, are sacrificing something in the interests of many other peoples. i'll argue with you here. we don't sacrifice anything. we are working to strengthen our sovereignty, this is in our interests. this is, first of all, uh, the strengthening of financial economic sovereignty, it will constitute the basis for our future development of technological educational scientific what is, there or not, e nobel laureates, then, uh. well, here is
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alferov, he made his invention, when e means after there 30 years or how many he was given a nobel series. well, is this the case with the former president of the united states, er, er, means the nobel realities, but this is an indicator of some kind of achievement with all due respect to their nobel. how much give this and to the owner. uh, so this is a wonderful nobel prize. is it only to show in this, then, uh, science is developing, we must do everything so that the return from both fundamental and applied science is a multiple higher for our development. and we'll do it at our place today. there is a significant and noticeable renewal of scientific personnel. our science is becoming one of
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the youngest in the world. yes, of course, the same states. uh, i mean, uh their competitive advantage in terms of a monopoly on uh, global finance. there, like a vacuum cleaner, it pulls out everything from all over the world, including scientific and creative personnel. well, okay. well, this will also end with the loss of napolizm for this for the dollar, as for the world currency. and this will also happen today. you see, and here's what we do it is. very attractive for many countries of the world and peoples, but our western so-called partners are doing everything to slander russia, humiliate her somehow ignore her interests. and when we fight for our interests and do. it's openly honest and uh hmm and let
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's just say so manly. that in itself, this fact in itself, this example is extremely contagious and attractive to billions of people on the planet. you look in many african countries in some countries. russian flags now in latin america the same thing is happening in asia we have a lot of friends and we don't need to impose anything on anyone just many very many people and politicians and ordinary citizens. they are tired of living under some kind of external dictator. everything is already tired. and when they see an example of our struggle with this dictator, they are both
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thank you. my name is ivan chinese university this time in russia more than 20 countries in russia and wrote a number of articles in order to to demonstrate the real russia of china many people love russia and you in particular. i want to ask. next question for sure. right now you are under a lot of pressure with a big load on your shoulders. do you feel fear or not?
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