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the sandovy of soviet medicine that it was a mistake will be understood only when covid comes on, which, in principle, well, businessmen are they, they tried to actually build a business, but here are its humanitarian issues. it was far, not the strongest feature. in general, they were ignored or farmed out or outsourced, as is customary, as they say to completely different people with an alien mentality and in fact. here in this was laid and there a time bomb that did not want to understand, businessmen and politicians south-east of ukraine after the maidan euro after the february 2014 coup, and the law enforcement agencies underwent transformations. this is understandable, because there it was necessary to remove all supporters from there, but normal good-neighborly relations with russia a. as for such structures there as the most epidemiological stations, like, uh, the ministry of health, i think that it was really uh done in the interests of exclusively one or another, uh? commercial
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structures in the interests of, say, pharmaceutical companies and it was clearly not in the interests of ukraine abandon the huge industrial potential and turn not even into a raw material, but into an agrarian appendage, although in the most independent, at the suggestion of the former us ambassador jeffrey, they proudly, not noticing the irony, continued to call themselves an agrarian superpower. the destruction of the industrial potential of the country began in the nineties, but with the coming to power of poroshenko, this process accelerated dramatically. and if earlier the loss of factories of promising technologies and even entire industries could be explained by the banal plunder, then after the so-called revolution of dignity. this more like a deliberate suicide policy. now it has run in ukraine , not ideal, not about colonial. uh, the idea is, when properly speaking, a country exists dure, it has a flag of the coat of arms of the president of all bodies.
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she has representation in all of them including the association of beavers of transvestites. it has its own branches, but there is no statehood, because it is not managed by the colonial administration recruited from its natives who protect, e, not ukrainian interests in ukraine. and those people which, in fact, order ukraine certain rules of the game, certain actions. right now, ukraine has been ordered to be a fertile ramming ground against russia, and ukraine is fulfilling this, by the way, not so long ago after the start of a special military operation. vladimir zelensky signed the law on landing. minsk legislation, the law provides for a total cleansing of legal documents from soviet and russian terminology, in particular, it is proposed to replace the phrase national economy with the economy ukraine, workers for workers, units for
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equipment, ukrainian ussr for ukraine in conditions when the country is fighting. and it is necessary to save the civilian population and the remnants of the economy , the ukrainian authorities have similar priorities anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine we will talk with our constant expert historians and political scientist rostislav about how the state of ukraine was destroyed and what people learned while living in such a state. ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon rostislav what people have learned living? here is a constantly collapsing or degrading state. what habits they have acquired, they learned to exist without the state, in parallel with the state, the people in this state absolutely do not hope or rely on it and believe that the less the state is present in everything in life, the better when the state. it's some kind of sign for visiting
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guests. and for me, it doesn’t mean yet, here, yes there, we sing to them, we bring it up, we swear in love, we spend it in ukraine for automated control systems and there and so on, but all this happens at some social level, so we renounce russian literature. yes, no, because it is beneficial to the state, because it is beneficial, defined by a social group by a ukrainian writer, whose competitor disappears in the face of the entire array of russian literature, even in the face of modern russian writers. that is, it looks like the state does not give anything. they are just, yes, it is the state, on the contrary. this leads to the destruction of the state to the accelerated destruction of the state repeating, but uh, they made such a decision. yes, that's how they were shaped. here why, in fact, did they decide, yes, to carry out ukraine for although, after all. this is, uh, well, it was initially clear that in the state five percent of the
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russian or russian cultural population. this will lead to a conflict, a conflict that can escalate into a pose and escalate into a civil war, because hmm the very first idea. yes, here are the first who came up with the idea, ukraine. these were ukrainian historians. well, in fact, soviet historians. yes, that means, including historians of the cpsu there who were the first in this regard, because they are used to being ideologues. by the way, they simply changed their ideological clothes and began to promote nationalist ideology instead of the very place of the communist ideology. they were joined by cultural figures who also felt their benefit, and only then political nationalists joined this cause. moreover , chernovol began with what he said. well, let's organize a federal state, because he understood that in a sporting event, ukraine would be torn
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apart, which means that it is too different. uh, it means that he was afraid that a large array of the russian cultural population would suppress his galina, which means that he would force her to say his opinion on who the ukrainian state should be, it advanced for the federation. but over time, with the implementation of this very ukrainianization, it means gradually. uh, it turned out that, in general, galicia can export its view of state building to central and left-bank ukraine to the east to the south-east of ukraine, which means, here, but i repeat. this is the protein of destruction of the state for one simple reason, because an attempt to get away from cooperation with russia and business to an economic disaster, since the ukrainian economy was tied to the union society , respectively, a protective degree on the russian one, respectively, breaking ties with russia, ukraine destroyed its economy the main thing is that some of them destroyed the industry and
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the high-tech industries of this industry, without receiving anything in return, by and large, if not for the american financial and political support. not these bonds that the americans put on ukraine, it would have collapsed into different lands long ago. so, when the economy is falling apart , a single economic space is lost, when these single economic space is lost, the ties that unite the population of the state are lost, and yesterday's citizens of ukraine, uh, residents of kherson and zaporozhye regions. uh, today they will become citizens of the russian federation, what do they need to be prepared for? first of all, we will have to learn to live in a normal state and in a normal society, he as part of the ukrainian society was atomized ukrainian society was completely abstracted from the state. don't come join us. and we will not climb to you. this is roughly what
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the relationship between the average ukrainian and the state means. so, if i need something, i will give a bribe and get the necessary certificate. so, it is now necessary that the queue or not, queues. no, it's all good. but here's a pity procedure. yes, it's a pity that they are used to giving you a bribe. here they will have to retrain. it 's very hard on this one that the years go by because uh people over 30 years old. they are accustomed to a certain existence. he was built, it's not. this is the most not some kind of shit this system in which people lived, and those who are now 30-40 years old. in this system they have grown into another and do not know the relationship between man and the state at all. they, uh, cannot immediately understand, they must feel it for themselves. and they must then feel that it is more profitable than the system in which they lived, more profitable for them, that this is the very thing that this imposes certain duties on them. yes you have to pay taxes and yes, they will have to fulfill some of their obligations in relation to the state, but this allows them to demand and receive from the
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state, which a strong state can give them, well, first of all, protection. yes, because for a start, after all, uh, ukrainians. eh, they turned out to be not so without protection against some external threats. yes, how they were all their lives defenseless against internal threats, because on the one hand, in which they considered the state as something extraneous and to some extent even hostile to their own, at least in an economic planet in a political one. they could even love him there, but in economic terms they did not perceive him as competitors. so on the other side. eh, so, was the one with more rights right? that is, if you, by the way, come across a person who occupies a higher position, a person who has more money and so on. you have no chance of defeating him, not in court, uh, in any one or in any other way, he himself. now they are getting the same laws for everyone. yes, that is, the state
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justice, because yes, of course, laws are violated in russia, too, but in russia they are caught and tried for breaking the law. so in russia you can achieve. uh, so that your article is an offender, you would have to be, he didn’t deal with it, he still answered before the law. this , in fact, will receive, that is, people will receive, for which the state is creating a law protection protection external protection internal protection economic work, by the way, received thank you very much for a very interesting story. poetry is the genre that the first to respond to any and plow event in history. it is then that stories come out, novels in wars and revolutions, and first the elements of block 12 appear. mayakovsky’s left march comes out in the early years of the revolution and the civil war, and only then the quiet don sholokhov and the white guard bulgakov often
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can say a few poetic lines with their imagery and emotional message about more time and events than many pages of prose. for several generations of soviet people, the most vivid pictures of the civil war at the beginning of the last century in in verses from a poem by odessan eduard bagritsky , youth led us on a saber campaign , youth threw us onto the kronstadt ice, war horses carried us away on the wide square, killed us, or, in these lines, and the famous grenada. mikhail svetlov, a native of yekaterinoslav, which later became dnepropetrovsk. we rushed, dreaming to comprehend as soon as possible, the language of the battery, the tone of battle, sunrise rose and fell again, and the horse galloped tiredly through the steppes , but the squadron played the song with the bows of suffering on the violins of times during the great
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patriotic war was born a huge number of poems war. these were amazing lines of courage and fidelity to duty about hatred for the enemy and faith in victory in love and the ability to wait konstantin simonov alexei surkov mikhail isakovsky olga berggolts alexander tvardovsky and many of their other poems are a real chronicle of those years, and the famous dark night, written by native kiev vladimir agate became one of the main lyrical masterpieces of that war. the war in the donbass that is going on and today has already been reflected in poems and songs in they are the tragedy of a civil schism the horror of death and the hope for peace in them the pulse of our time and the current war more about the plot of olga mokhovaya
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slams and in lugansk such an action flew off and ksyusha had a little man in a wheelchair and was lucky. she is his brand new less than a month, as if born into the world, and next to him is a soldier and his head is level with his gray flowers, and he is fet arrivals incoming and this is not about calls, answer point u and hail, new vocabulary broke into their life suddenly, radically, changing it and dividing by before and after questions much more than answers, only one thing was clear no longer, as before, in the work of 2014 , it became a turning point for the majority too, those events were stunning, someone stopped writing at all for someone, lyrics, love changed to military, when you you see, this is human grief and heroism and the fact that people, uh, sacrifice everything in
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order to stay with themselves, when you see that a person is ready to give. your life sacrifices comfort. and uh, well, you can't remain indifferent to this. just like uh nod head, as elena anna began to write poetry. as a child, the very first lines written at the age of 6 she dedicated the city of men with black eyes lined up to her native lower kurgan street in donetsk to be the best on earth, and after 14, you know, as a hero city, in the fourteenth year. we fell in love with donetsk with some kind of strange love that we love, maybe even a terminally ill relative, when we measure some hours before parting with him. and until the fourteenth year, i simply adored him, as the best city on earth, and then she began to love with such a vengeance, if at the very beginning of the civil
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conflict in eastern ukraine the rest of the world did not pay attention to the unfolding tragedy and continued to live as if nothing had happened, then the poet is an exception. they, like no one else, feel everything, this is the pain of the drama of donbass is wider than the self-driving of donbass, it goes beyond its framework. it is also the drama of ukraine, it is the drama of the entire divided russian people. it is projected onto global processes. it would seem that. what is there, what is there of that donbass, yes? well, here it is the globe, if you look at the planets, but you see, they got involved in this process, in fact, one way or another, everyone is here for murder, not their native land. they covered you like a shield. did you think, did you think i would become restless in the battle with evil, alexei dedicated these lines to his native mariupol, he was not there, the most difficult days for the city, but his relatives and friends more than once found themselves on the verge of death, all these modern experiences.

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