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how do we see her in recent years? president leonid kuchma, in his book ukraine not russia, wanted to explain precisely in opposition to russia the inevitability of choosing a western course of development for the ukrainian state, they say, all because in the ukrainian village the huts are clean whitewashed and well-groomed, while russian huts stand, rickety and unpainted ukrainians work for themselves , like diligent owners, and the russians do their job carelessly. basically, for someone else's uncle, and in general they want to live not according to the laws, but according to the concepts. in general, in ukraine building your state. we need to take an example from the west and not from russia let's leave on the conscience of the ukrainian ex-president his biased, and sometimes just falsely caricatured assessments. yes, and the choice of whom to take an example from is, of course, a personal matter for everyone only kuchma yes, and many ukrainian
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politicians. after him, they did not remember or did not want to remember that the traditions of russian statehood have a long history, and ukrainian statehood first appeared during the years of the civil war in the form created by the bolsheviks of the ukrainian ssr. two short experiences of hetman bogdan khmelnytsky which in 1654 became part of the russian kingdom and the bourgeois ukrainian people's republic, which existed in the 20th century with interruptions for less than three years. they can hardly be considered a serious basis for their own statehood after the collapse of the soviet union , ukraine did not abandon the legacy of the ussr for a long time and lived according to its laws . ukraine adopted its own constitution only in 1996, 5 years after gaining independence, later than all the former soviet republics true, not having managed to properly
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build their own state, the ukrainian political top. immediately began to destroy his life according to the law turned out to be a serious challenge. especially. if you have the opportunity to change this law all the time or not comply with it, referring to politics, legal decisions, when the right is replaced by political expediency, the first example of such expediency was the refusal of the verkhovna rada to approve the results of an all-popular referendum in 2000, which was initiated by the then president. kuchma, 29 million ukrainians participated in it, but the deputies did not approve it. so gradually, the interests of ukrainian politicians replaced the law and destroyed the foundations of statehood about how the process of the collapse of the ukrainian state went on in the last 20 years and how ukrainians adapted to this in the plot of anna
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efimova november, the first official data from the cec were announced. yanukovych won a victory over yushchenko by a margin of almost 3%. which did not suit the opposition, the leading candidate was accused of juggling e, gromodians about nine wound e to pass to yushchenko maidan as a result of many days of rallies with orange flags the clear winner of the presidential elections, viktor yanukovych, was forced to concede the post to his rival viktor yushchenko by organizing a dubious legal point of view, the third round of the ukrainian opposition managed to stop one step away from unleashing a civil war. and we have little right to him that in our voice the buff was taken into account that we of egypt and the grandchildren lived more beautifully than
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i did for the joy of my granddaughter on the chair. i want to my ukraine has become with klin, if only we had lived, i’m fierce, so that the leader of the cattle would stop us and the leader of the cattle would have imposed a new correct president with an orange tint on the people of ukraine. glory to ukraine glory to viktor yushchenko, people's president of ukraine not everyone found a living sun the maidan of 2004 became a time bomb . and it was already impossible. the collapse of the soviet union, the independent was systematically moving towards the loss of its population at the state level, the census has not been conducted for a long time; the last one was already in 2001, then almost
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48.5 million people were counted in ukraine. independent research fell by 40%, immediately affected two demographic pits of the early nineties, and then from 2000, however. after that, the situation would have gone smoothly, natural population growth began to be noted, including due to high ukrainian standards for payments at the birth of a child. however, the government of arseniy yatsenyuk formed after the maidan. decided to reduce state budget expenditures, including at the expense of children, payments were significantly cut. yes, and who was to pay in the ukrainian youth, actively reached out abroad. there is no demographic policy, as such, because the leadership of ukraine is busy with personal enrichment . passed under what slogan without a visa, that is, they
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demanded that europe open the gates to them in order to go there, not for an exchange, not in order to get europe back to work, no, they wanted to leave, while destroying everything old in an attempt to build new in the country, the process of decommunization began, which was not limited only to the massive renaming of streets and cities, as well as to the nose of monuments. now the former head of the institute of national memory, vladimir petrovich, once proudly noted that in total in ukraine more than 2,000 soviet monuments were dismantled, of which half are the monuments of lenin, however, they did not stop there. so, for example, during the time of poroshenko, the sanitary epidemic system was destroyed. since the acting minister of health, the american ulyana suprun, whom the ukrainians themselves called dr. death, considered it unnecessary to preserve the legacy of soviet medicine, they will understand that it was a mistake only when the covid strikes, which, in principle, well, businessmen are
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they, they were trying to actually build a business , but here are her humanitarian questions. it was far, not the strongest feature. in general, they ignored or were farmed out or outsourced, as is customary, as they say to completely different people with an alien mentality. and actually. this is where a time bomb was laid, which did not want to understand, businessmen and politicians of the south-east of ukraine after the maidan euro after the february 2014 coup, and the law enforcement agencies also underwent transformations. this is understandable, because there it was necessary to remove all supporters from there. e normal good neighborly relations with russia a. as for such structures there as the most epidemiological stations like the ministry of health, i think that this was really done in the interests of exclusively certain e, commercial structures in the interests of, say, pharmaceutical
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companies. and it was clearly not in the interests of ukraine to give up the huge industrial potential and turn not even into a raw material, but into an agrarian appendage, although in the most self-imposed at the suggestion of the former us ambassador jeffrey proudly, not noticing the irony continued to call themselves an agrarian superpower. the destruction of the industrial potential of the country began in the nineties, but with the coming to power of poroshenko, this process accelerated dramatically. and if earlier the loss of factories of promising technologies and even entire industries could be explained by the banal plunder, then after the so-called revolution of dignity. it already looked more like a deliberate suicide policy. now it has run in ukraine, not ideal, not about colonial. uh idea. uh, when uh, actually speaking, the country exists dure, it has the flag of the coat of arms of the president of all bodies. she has representation in all of them including the association of
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beavers of transvestites. it has its own branches, but there is no statehood, because it is not managed by the colonial administration, recruited from its natives, who protect, uh, not ukrainian interests in ukraine. and those people who, in fact, order ukraine certain rules of the game, certain actions. now ukraine has been ordered to be a grateful training ground ramming against russia and ukraine - this is performed, by the way, not so long ago after the start of a special military operation. volodymyr zelenskyy signed the law on desavitization. minsk legislation by law provides for a total cleansing of legal documents from soviet and russian terminology, in particular, it is proposed to replace the phrase national economy with the economy of ukraine, workers for workers, units for equipment, the ukrainian ussr for ukraine in conditions when hostilities are going on in the country. and
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it is necessary to save the civilian population and the remnants of the economy , the authorities of ukraine have similar priorities anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine we will talk with our constant expert historians and political scientist rostislav about how the state of ukraine was destroyed and what people learned while living in such a state. ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon rostislav, what have people learned while living? here is a constantly collapsing or degrading state. what habits did they develop, did they learn to exist without state and parallel state people in this state. the habit absolutely does not hope and does not rely on it and believe that the less the state is present in everything in life, the better when the state. it's some kind of sign for visiting guests. and for me it doesn’t mean yet, here, yes there, we sing to them, we bring them up, we swear in love, we carry
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out ukrainianization, there and so on, but all this happens at some social level, so we find ourselves, father. eh, russian literature. yes , no, because it is beneficial to the state, because it is beneficial, determined by a social group by a ukrainian writer, whose competitor disappears in the face of the entire array of russian literature, even in the face of modern russian writers. that is, it looks like the state does not give anything. they just, yes, this state is nothing the other way around. this leads to the destruction of the state to the accelerated destruction of the state repeating, but uh, they made such a decision. yes, that's how they were shaped. that is why, in fact, they decided, yes, to hold ukraine for a share. although it's uh, well it was initially clear that in a state with five percent of the russian or russian cultural population. this will lead to conflict, conflict,
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which can lead to a pose of doing escalated civil war. hmm because hmm is the first idea. yes, the first who came up with the idea, ukraine. these were ukrainian historians, in fact, soviet historians. yes, that means including historians of the cpsu who were the first in this regard, because they are used to being ideologists. they just changed, by the way, ideological clothes and instead of the very place of the communist ideology, they began to promote the nationalist ideology; they were joined by an active culture, which also felt their benefit, and only then political nationalists joined this cause. moreover, chernovol began with what he said. let's organize a federal state, because he understood that in a sporting event, ukraine would be torn apart, which means that it is too different. e, so he was afraid that
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a large array of russian cultural population will overwhelm its limits. and uh, he will force her to say her opinion on who the ukrainian state should be, it was advancing for the federation. but over time, with the implementation of this very ukrainianization , it means gradually. uh, it turned out that, in general, galicia can export its view of state building to central and left-bank ukraine to the east to the south-east of ukraine, which means, here, but i repeat. this is protein for the destruction of the state for one simple reason, because an attempt to get away from cooperation with russia and things are leading to an economic disaster, since the ukrainian economy was tied to the union society, respectively, protecting the degrees of russian, respectively, breaking ties with russia, ukraine destroyed its economy most. and most importantly, i destroyed part of the industry. and this technological branch of this industry, without receiving anything in return, by and
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large, if not for american financial and political support. and these braces that the americans put on ukraine have long been would have collapsed into different lands. so, when the economy is falling apart, the single economic space is lost, when they are lost, the single economic space is lost, the ties that unite the population from the state, and yesterday's citizens of ukraine, residents of the kherson and zaporozhye regions. uh, today they will become citizens of the russian federation, what do they need to be prepared for? first of all, we will have to learn to live in a normal state and in a normal society. he watched the ukrainian society was atomized ukrainian society was completely abstracted from the state do not bother us. and we will not climb to you. here. this roughly means the relationship of the average ukrainian with the state. so, if you don’t need something, i’ll bribe there, i’ll get the necessary certificate, which means, and now i
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have to do something very much or not, queues. no , in general, everything is fine, but here is the woman of the procedure. yes , it's a pity to wear a nine, because they are used to it. here they will have to retrain. it's very hard. this one will also take years, because people in their 30s they are accustomed to a certain existence built into it. it's not this one, no one there. uh, there's an abstract mechanism, it's a system in which people lived, and those who are now 30-40 years old. in this system they have grown into another and do not know the relationship between man and the state at all. they, uh, cannot immediately understand, they must feel for themselves, and they must feel later that this is more profitable than the system in which desire is more profitable for them, that this is the very thing that this imposes on them, certain duties. yes they will have to pay taxes and yes, they will have to fulfill some of their obligations in relation to the state , but this allows them to both demand and receive from the state, what can a strong state give them protection in the first place? yes, because
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for starters, after all, ukrainians. eh, they turned out to be not so without protection against some external threats. how are they all their lives? unprotective against internal threats, because on the one hand, in which they considered the state as something extraneous and to some extent even hostile their own, at least economically, politically, they could even love him. yes, but in economic terms, they did not perceive him as a competitor, which means on the other hand. eh, so, was the one with more rights right? that is, if you, by the way, come across a person who occupies a higher position, in each of which there is more money and so on. you have no chance of beating him, not in court err. there in itself nor in any other national variant. now they are getting these laws the same for everyone. yes, that is state justice, because yes, of course, laws are violated in russia. so it is in
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russia that they are caught and tried for breaking the law. so in russia you can achieve. uh, it means that in order for your article to be a scourge, you would have to be, he didn’t deal with it, he still answered before the law. here. this , in fact, will receive, that is, people will receive, for which the state is creating a law protection protection external protection internal protection economic work, by the way, will work. thank you very much for a very interesting story. poetry is the genre that the first to respond to any epoch-making event in history. it is then that stories come out, novels about wars and revolutions, and first the verses of block 12 appear. mayakovsky’s left march comes out in the early years of the revolution and the civil war, and only then quiet don sholokhov and bulgakov’s white guard often several poetic lines with their imagery and emotional message can say about more time and
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events than many pages of prose. for several generations of soviet people, the most vivid pictures of the civil war at the beginning of the last century in in verses from a poem by odessan eduard bagritsky , youth led us on a saber campaign , youth threw us onto the kronstadt ice, war horses carried us away on the wide square, killed us, or, in these lines, from the famous grenada. mikhail svetlov, a native of ekaterina glory, who later became dnepropetrovsk. we rushed, dreaming to comprehend as soon as possible, the language of the battery, the tone of battle, sunrise rose and fell again, and the horse galloped tiredly through the steppes , but the squadron played the song with the bows of suffering on the violins of times during the great patriotic war was born a huge number of poems war. these were amazing lines in courage and
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fidelity to duty about hatred for the enemy and in victory about love and the ability to wait konstantin simonov alexei surkov mikhail isakovsky olga berggolts alexander tvardovsky and many of their other poems are a real chronicle of those years, and the famous dark night, written by native kiev vladimir agate became one of the main lyrical masterpieces of that war in the donbass that is going on and today is already reflected in poems and songs in they are the tragedy of a civil schism, the horror of death and the hope for peace in them the pulse of our time and the current war. more in the story of olga mokhova basset is thumping behind the hill and the river and there are a lot of these
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hills and rivers. and in lugansk, acacia is blooming, and ksyusha has a little man in a stroller and is lucky. she is his brand new less than a month old, as if he was born into the world, and next to him is a soldier and his head is on a par with gray flowers, and he is incoming feta and this is not about calls, answer point u and hail, new vocabulary burst into their lives suddenly, radically, having changed it and dividing it into before and after questions, there are much more than answers, only one thing would no longer be clear, since before in creativity in 2014 it became a turning point for the majority too, those events were stunning, someone stopped writing at all for someone , lyrics, love changed to military, when you see this is human grief and heroism and the fact that people sacrifice everything in order to stay with themselves, when you see that a
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person is ready to give. your life sacrifices comfort. and uh, well you can't stay to this you can't be indifferent. just kind of uh nod your head like elena anna started writing poetry. as a child, the very first lines written at the age of 6 she dedicated the city of men with black eyes lined up to her native lower kurgan street in donetsk to be the best on earth, and after 14, you know, as a hero city, in the fourteenth year. we fell in love with donetsk with some kind of strange love that we love, maybe even a terminally ill relative, when we measure some hours before parting with him. until the fourteenth i just adored it for a year, as the best city on earth, and then i began to love it with such a redoubled triple strength, if at the very beginning of the civil conflict in eastern ukraine, the rest of the world did not pay attention to the unfolding tragedy and continued to live,
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no matter how what did not happen, then the poet of the exception. they, like no one else, feel everything, this is the pain of the drama of donbass is wider than the self-driving of donbass, it goes beyond its framework. it is also the drama of ukraine, it is the drama of the entire divided russian people. it is projected onto general world processes. it would seem that. what is there, what is there of that donbass, yes? well, on the globe, if you look at the planets, but you see, they got involved in this process, in fact, one way or another, everyone is here for murders, not their native land. they covered you like a shield. did you think, did you think i would become a freelancer in the battle against evil , alexei dedicated these lines to his native mariupol, he was not there, the most difficult days for the city are there, but his relatives and friends more than once found themselves on the verge of death all these experiences modern poets clothed in images strong bright understandable i became a citizen of russia in 2020, when a
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special operation began. i woke up early in the morning, and i had a passport of 21 on my bedside table. i wrote a poem. about what kind of passport is he? dangerous like a razor and beautiful like an icon, my great homeland stood up for my small homeland. that's the feeling i had and have to be a poet and to be a mother. what test could be stronger, when the war, russian renaissance elena zaslavskaya dedicated her poem to her son ivan a second-year student, a future artist, a cartoonist, he was mobilized in lugansk on february 21 by these short news. through friends, like triangular letters of war days, alive and well, we are advancing. everything will be ok, and a whole life fits between the lines, was under a red lemon, there
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was no connection for 2 weeks and now they have departed under crime, alive and healthy and contusiacca, before that my father fought, as it were, yes, i was worried, and when my son went , it was completely different. they are chroniclers of their era and direct participants in what is happening. as if at the front or in the rear. yes, wherever the poet is, he conveys a message to both contemporaries and descendants in this context, especially the fact that most of the lines, and the current war is written on the topic, who saw it close you are experiencing the essence of time here is now part of the historical process , which concerns you personally and you touch this story in the fourteenth year. i decided to become a part of a big big, new russia 8 years have passed today , it's nice to understand what i chose. your ticket, this
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my shore. i stand the same. on what he stood on the fourteenth, he didn’t turn a drop, now their poems are heard from the stage, set to music, published in mass editions, a poetic word in an era of change, more than ever, because as you know, a poet in russia is more than a poet. i didn’t bend, as if carved out of stone, i still can’t find reasons to retreat. not that a thousand on the fingers do not sympathize with five. savelyev typical, ukraine that's all we wanted to tell. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. good luck to you. hello, this is my kindergarten. here i have many friends and girlfriends diana is 4 years old. i know she has autism. i heard that she used to
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