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go this proposal was to end this confrontation of military alliances that threatened each other, it was a good idea, but after the collapse of the soviet union, the united states broke this promise and began to expand nato to the east russia opposed this expansion, but tolerated it first the countries admitted to nato after the collapse of the ussr were poland , hungary, the czech republic, which were far from russia, but nato continued to move further to the black sea to romania, bulgaria, the baltic countries, and so on, but the key moment came in 2008 when george w. bush said that georgia and ukraine should be admitted to nato if you look at the map you will see that both of these countries directly border russia and president putin stated very clearly that this is a red line . told president
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bush don't do this he warned him many european leaders knew it was a very bad idea but the us dominates nato and so their objections didn't start anything because the us decides everything i think this is the main reason current war, but there is an internal reason between ethnic ukrainians who speak ukrainian and between ukrainians who speak russian, tensions between them and so on, but the reasons for this confrontation. this is a proxy fight between the us and russia for a military presence in the black sea, especially in ukraine and georgia, which is why i call it the second crimean war, because the first crimean war was from 1853 to 1856 in this war of great britain, france wanted to exclude the military. as russia in the black sea, and in
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nato wants to establish its presence in the entire black sea region in the current military conflict. i think it's very dangerous. i think that ukraine would have acted wiser. if stated, we do not want to participate in this, we do not want to participate in the war between the two superpowers. we want neutrality , this is what, by the way, yanukovych was talking about in 2010 in 11-12-13, but he was overthrown as a result of the maidan uprising, the next ukrainian government said that ukraine would become a member of nato i then advised this
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don't do the talking, you'll find yourself right between two superpowers. you will find yourself embroiled in a proxy war proxy war. i think that this is a very bad idea for ukraine. and interestingly , president zelensky sometimes said the same thing, that ukraine should accept the idea of ​​its neutrality, even in march of this year, there were active negotiations between ukraine and russia in which turkey acted as an intermediary, these negotiations were about the neutral status of ukraine, but then i think that the united states interfered continuation of these negotiations. this is how i got the impression ukrainians withdrew from the negotiations. even despite the fact that they managed to achieve good intermediate results. i advise ukrainians not to stand between the two superpowers. neutrality is better than being drawn into a war, and many of my
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ukrainian friends stopped talking to me, thinking that i had a russian point of view. and i told them that i have ukrainian views. there is no need to get involved in a military conflict between russia and the united states, and you do not want your country to be destroyed in this war, but this did not convince them. i am i think the us would be absolutely right. it would be right to say that nato expansion is not a good idea, since it is seen by russia as a threat to its very essence of existence and its national security. we must respect such red lines and not provoke such terrible wars between our two superpowers. we must remove the threat of escalation. president putin at valdai
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said, as before, that this crisis is the result of the desire of the west, especially the united states of america, seeking to dominate the system international relations. although the system of international relations should be governed by the un charter, i think what he said is the basis for negotiations and the basis for discussions. i want americans to read this speech. our press did not particularly cover it. she took only a couple of sentences, the meaning of which was presented in an exaggerated form. but if you read this speech in its entirety, you will find it interesting and profound, in my opinion. it is the basis for real negotiations between the us and russia in this speech. it says that there are different points of view that need to be discussed. i think it's very sad that when president biden was recently asked if he was going to the g20, where would president putin be, would
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you meet with him, biden replied that i had nothing to talk to him about? why should i date him? it will never lead to anything good. we will not end this crisis unless there is direct talks between our two leaders and governments. by the way, too, because both our leaders and our governments must communicate. there is different points of view. they have not been studied, on the other hand , they are incorrectly covered in the american media, but they should be discussed in detail until 2014. there was general economic support for ukraine, but there was no doubt that the united states also participated in the political life of the country. and create there about the american government. this is
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obvious. i think the maidan uprising of 2014 was something in between an international protest and us intervention i think this is also understandable after 2014 the us supplied several billion dollars worth of weapons to ukraine directly to the government ukraine is talking about three billion dollars, but the united states even earlier actively invested in the ukrainian army and prepared it for it to become part of nato, and therefore ukraine is fighting quite effectively this year, because a lot of american aid has entered the ukrainian army from 2014 to 2021 since. how this military operation began in the united states, according to various estimates, they allocated up to $60 billion to ukraine. this is a lot even for the replacement support of the military army to support the state budget, i think that these are three phases of escalation with
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part of the united states because the goal of the united states is to get ukraine into its sphere of influence, especially in the form of a nato member, the united states invested in this, but these investments are relatively small compared to the goal that they are intended to achieve in october 22, the so-called democratic a forum in which there was a wide exchange of views on how to live what is democracy russia ukraine modern conflicts. well, and so on there invited. what does he say? is it a mystery to me? why is this person who participated in shock therapy in the nineties in russia and broke our soviet economy, what if he advocates for us? and he says things that are
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not patted on the head in the west strangely, but look, when i look at my own country, at the united states of america, i see a semi-democratic, predominantly white society with a certain hierarchy, the goal of which is to preserve privileges for the elites. this is how it was founded in 1787. it was a slave system that resorted to genocide about the natives of america, but the amazing thing is that it still looks like this today, even though we are much more diverse now than we were then, because i want to say one more thing about democracy, because we live in democratic form of government, we consider democracy to be something good, but the most cruel country in the world. and by a wide margin in the xix century was probably the most democratic
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or the second most democratic country in the world of great britain, you can be a democrat in your own country. country and brutal, imperialist in other countries the most brutal country in the world since the 1950s is the united states jeff they participated in so many warriors. jeffrey please stop jeff jeffries, host. am i saying enough? ok i will not. i'm not here to defend this or that system. i'm only here to encourage dialogue and stop monologues. the big problem is that europe is dominated by the democratic idea, which
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is that everyone should have guaranteed access to basic health care decent education affordable housing, and in the us there is no such concept . although the us is a very rich country, the average us income is very high, but there is also a very large gap between the rich and the poor. and the political system is more pro-rich, they pay for their candidates' campaigns, they pay congressmen and congress keeps their turn low taxes for rich people and the government says. well, we don't have much money to provide guaranteed social
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services. this has been a problem of us policy for many decades. she represents the interests of rich people more than society as a whole in 2019. i wrote a book called the new foreign policy beyond and in american exceptionalism. i said we need a completely different foreign policy because the current one does not work in anyone's interests not in the interests. america is not in the interests of the world. we spend trillions of dollars on harmful aimless destructive wars in afghanistan syria iraq libya and these warriors do not solve any problems with everything and it would be much cheaper not to spend trillions of dollars, but to solve these problems practically for free politically, not militarily. i think the us is making a big mistake the us is a very, very wealthy country with a very unequal distribution of wealth.
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annual production in the usa is about 23 trillion dollars, so 60 billion for ukraine is generally not much of the part of the budget that the united states sends to ukraine. this is for the united states . we say that we are saving ukraine, but we are not saving it, because ukraine is being destroyed as a result of this proxy war. we need a different approach to ukrainian rule. we need negotiations, not war. i think that most of what the united states of america spends these are not loans, these are expenses of the american budget. i don't think this is the main issue. here. the main thing is
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that ukraine is losing tens of thousands of lives. their cities are being destroyed and the living conditions become simply unbearable. this is not a ukrainian war. this is a war where ukraine found itself between russia and the united states, and this is a real problem. i don't think the problem is that ukraine will be in debt. the problem is that ukraine will be in ruins if we do not find a way to end this confrontation. i think that this conflict can it would have been avoided, as i said, if president biden and president putin spoke directly and negotiated. it could be. to end in march and i think that hostilities can be ended even now through negotiations, but for this it is necessary that both sides agree on some kind of compromise. i think the key to solving this problem. here would be a statement by the united states that nato expansion was a mistake and such
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recognition will lead both sides to some kind of solution to resolve this conflict. sanctions to destroy the russian economy tools that the us has been using for a long time and the approach to russia is the same as it once was to the soviet union. this is the idea of ​​economic containment. along with the military arms race, economic and technological sanctions. all this was involved in order to see the economy of the soviet union, and the united states is now using the same goal of sanctions to cause as much damage as possible to the russian economy. as far as possible, but it is worth noting that the united states applies the same tools. now more and more chinas are promoting the idea of ​​maintaining a unipolar world.
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and i think it's a bad idea, it's part of american public policy, of course, americans. they would say that the sanctions. this is a response to military action, but it would still be better to negotiate in order to end the war or prevent it . and it is still possible, the same economic instruments are being used today against venezuela, iran and many other countries, and as i have said more and more against china, that their vision does not require large expenditures, they cause great damage to the one against whom they are introduced to transmit them, and the eyes in the usa against venezuela in 2017. this led to the collapse of the venezuelan economy
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. because it was a government order of the administration, which was not even discussed, not only in society, but even in congress, so sanctions are used as a tool by the executive branch. i don't think there is a unipolar world. i think the usa would like it to be very strong in the usa. allies in the european union in the united kingdom japan korea and a few other countries most of the rest of the world. says thank you but we would like a multi-polar world order, we would like everything to be in accordance with the joint of the un they are divided into pro-american and
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anti-american countries. i think most of the world is not interested in unipolarity. china is not interested in the existence of a unipolar world. also not interested and other large countries also do not want to take sides. they would like to just not have these wars of these proxy wars, and they do not agree and i do not agree with the idea that the us should be the only world superpower. it was never a good idea, but today it is also irreversibly outdated, yes, in the usa they talked about it, i want to say that when we say the united states, we mean, not the american people, we mean the high-ranking leaders of the american government, those who determine the american strategy. yes, they talked about they want russia to be a weaker country.
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i think that now the so-called west which means usa europe sees russia as an enemy. all ties are severed. we are in a position. proxy war ukraine must understand this first and find a way to get out of this situation to jump out of this struggle between the two superpowers. i hope that in the near future we will understand that this was all the wrong approach, and that there is a much better way to solve this problem. i think that the way out of this problem lies in a multipolar world, which would function according to the table. i have worked in russia in ukraine in many other countries of the former soviet union in central and eastern europe for over 30 years. i know this region. i don't want there to be a war. i don't think the us should see russia as an enemy either. and i never thought so from the very beginning. i thought that we should end the cold war and move on to a period
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of normal relations, and it was this attitude of mine that always underlay my actions. i believe in the possibility of peace and cooperation. and worked in more than 140 countries of the world in all these countries different approaches different ideas different values, but everyone needs peace and the opportunity to develop. it's the basic basic idea, and i'm ready to put my signature under it, and one of the things that i've been trying to do throughout my career. for over 40 years. it is to listen carefully to both sides. i know that in the us we will hear only one side of this story. this is the american government. it's not even the american side. and the american official point of view, but after i listened to both sides. i believe that both sides have their own truth, and both sides can come to a common solution. this is the main idea until the end of the nineteenth
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century, we and the us russia and america were not exactly friends, but cooperated well with each other. they understood each other, but then something happened , something happened, and from the end of the 19th century, the states, especially the elites of this country, began to do everything to break the beginnings of the russian empire, then harm all kinds of soviet union, and now again another attack on modern russia where does this hatred come from or has the elite in the usa changed and those people who were in the 19th century, their descendants have disappeared the usa came other people who do not remember anything good. see you.
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for the first time since the end of september, ukrainian troops are starting information hours from the zaporozhye region. inflicted a massive blow to the perimeter of the zaporizhzhya npp, the adviser to the general director reports. concern rosenergo. there, 12 rockets were fired by rinat korchan with no one injured, but the danger of new ukrainian strikes remains. we are talking about the perimeter of the station itself, and not about the industrial zone and others, and there were six arrivals in the territories adjacent to the station.

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