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about the events in the special operation zone, let's talk with a military expert, writer, publicists, who speaks tatar. he's in our studio. vot len, hello. ah. we don't often invite people into the studio, though. i am glad to welcome you. literally not so long ago we talked about my evening programs, and we also touched on different topics. and we don't have much time now, unfortunately, but nonetheless. let's start right away with bang, and the reality of his capture and the significance of this event is a lot of talk about it. well, here are a few words. what do you think, so the takeover is real takeover exists there are already street fights going on, uh, on the east side, like the east side of the city fast - it won't happen. that is, it will also all depend on the enemy. we know that a huge number of troops are being transferred there, and even
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american intelligence confirms this that one of the groups that was on kherson is coming. they’ll bang, yes, and this general wesley clark, by the way, who, uh, wanted to seize the airport in pristina, yes. in 1999, yes, yes, he called what was happening in bakhmut a meat grinder for the ukrainian army, that is, not for the russian one. they are generally there, namely a meat grinder for the ukrainian army. capture. e cities will make a difference. yes, this territory of the dpr yes, the former now this territory of russia is being liberated. well, wait for us to grab a bang, and everything will fall down there. we will not do this, because in order to fall down you need to break fron here is a wwii classic. it is actually still breaking through the front, there are tank, wedges, tactical landings are being landed at some depth, destabilizing you, this is what it is, a decisive victory that allows you to capture a small territory and defeat the army and create some kind of turning point in the war banged. yes, we will be very pleased and, uh, what does it mean to
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liberate the city, that, many ukrainian soldiers will die there. well, no matter how it will be somehow. still military dead. unfortunately this is actually happening. we have to understand everything, but uh war is war and uh the question of losses. here. uh, vonderlein flew in, apparently because of the washington regional committee. she changed her mind abruptly . at first she said 100,000, and then we say ukrainian soldiers who died. no, no, there's a mistake. this is also, probably, with the wounded , the data is not at all accurate, how would they comment on it all. firstly, losses, and secondly, these are, uh, like feints with ears, well feints, there are two versions, that is, what they are preparing. well, that is the buildup of assistance. yes, including. here look how many killed ukrainians who are fighting for our and your freedom. yes, the second filter is what is possible. uh, they
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somehow push zelensky to some peaceful ones. yes , negotiations, after all, there were salts ivan salem correctly moved there. as for the losses, uh, it’s hard, it’s hard to calculate, it’s hard to agree to disagree with the old rusula, but we know that you don’t even have an old woman even after that clark, who we remembered, i’m also colonel macgregor, a former adviser to the minister defense. he also says that the loss of the ukrainian army. he called appalling what he meant by what numbers. well, i thought like this, there zelensky’s statement was in the summer and david’s archi that the ukrainian army is losing something like 100-200 people a day there. they spoke without specifying whether they were killed or wounded. that means ukrainian doctors. here are the subscriptions there in the rally they have interviews. they say 30 people a day are injured comes a day. this is a lot. this is a lot. it 's literally there. i don't know for a few days you don't have
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a battalion. yes, because the battalion consists of different parts, but the most important thing is the infantry. i think that the loss of ukraine not 100,000 killed is my personal. maybe someone disagrees with me, but in general, here are the data that were for the month of august, this is about 20,000 dead, and somewhere around 20,000 deserters. uh, there are no 7,000 prisoners at that time. at that time there were 9.000 two 2.000. we have already exchanged 2,000 missing persons and somewhere, in my opinion, if i'm not mistaken, they said 90,000 wounded, well, understandable. we can increase these figures all the more, these months have passed and mine estimates somewhere, well, up to 100,000 somewhere, maybe 70, maybe 80,000 killed, these are still very large numbers. and, of course, we understand that this in itself is a big problem for the same ukrainian people, because and as you know, that's when the europeans say that they and the ukrainian
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guys are fighting for freedom. and it seems to me that they do n’t even lie, in the sense that they are sorry, just the truth, they really fight, but not for their freedom, but for the freedom of the european authorities to maintain their uneven and wrong the advantage that they have captured the world economies in the world politics of the desire to dictate. here today is a meeting in nato, let's be, and again steer everywhere, including far beyond the borders of europe well, let's go back to ukraine, uh, and. uh, this war that is now going on, unfortunately, it is apparently far from over in the sense that and how was the statement on our part today that nato is not going to meet at the meeting, but stop and throw pain. well, if you return to the territory, uh, matchmaker criminal here today with fomich spoke. well, i can already call him that, i guess. that's how
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often a-and sergei fonchenko battalion. and bars 13 is volunteer uh, the situation is so difficult to be transferred there, additional reserves of the apu. what do you think, i also asked him. why go there why like this, he replied. he said that he said there that there are several factors in the sense that if they break through our defenses there, then we lose a fairly large territory, that is, the territory itself is does not mean anything, yes, now i will explain a little. that's literally. yes, so, uh, there are rocket roads, that is, a rocket road that runs parallel to the front line. that's why they attacked there, there was a kupyansk road, the railway which was restored on lisichansk, now kupyansk, they lost further svatov, there are battles nearby. yes, if they break through the front there, further, only starobelsk, which is another road, but in general, the plans of the ukrainian command were when they launched an offensive by september 30 to leave
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borders of the russian federation and why is it so again there? literally 5 km from the border there is a railway to rostov 5 km. maybe even less it is a powerful supply artery. that is, in fact, it will have to uh, there the m4 can also fall under uh, which means a bad batch, yes, that is, in fact, the goods will need to be sent around, therefore, all these, uh, raked roads are important for supplying troops to complicate logistics. that's why they, of course, attack there, plus they act in a rather stereotyped way. where they have success was there, they direct. i mean, that's all. eh, latlina, once again we touched on volunteer battalions. e, what do you think, e their number and effectiveness, how to comment on them? i, of course, cannot prozat such a thing, but sergei fomchenko. it was for sure the river, but you are not addicted. i believe that, i believe that all battalions should all be part of some kind of
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units. well, in principle, they are theoretical there, as part of the brigades of the division. ah, regiments, russian army. yes, some of these battalions can be completed according to the territorial principle, for example, there are cossacks from the kuban, they conditionally serve there in the third battalion. there, let's say, there are 291 regiments. well, relatively speaking, here i am for this, why create some, and parallel structures, in which they are somehow equipped according to the residual principle, are armed. well, i'm against this. well why why? here, to us now? hey, they're filming us. uh, the operators of channel 24. why else invite other tv channels here that do not know each other with different equipment. and here they are will interfere. this is logical. i think colleagues will be against it. and that is, well, your position here, of course. well, i think they still subordinate the team to him. in general, i understand the general. i want to fight today. there is no tomorrow, so it all works
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anyway structures, for example, there, and when there the brig knows that this is my battalion, everything is there. and it's there, and they gave it to him. here is such and such a bar with given it all. well, it complicates. i, too, are served in these units. they have no connection there . elementary communication between them is not established. why connection why? well, because it needs to be adjusted. here is a simple reason, sometimes we are looking for some kind of conspiracies, that is, super-schemes, and sometimes the reason is simple. i say you have a phone, and that person has a phone. here, look, you get it, you go in, you write down the contacts, and he is yours, and at least in this way you will contact. well, that is, with this, as one of my lazy acquaintances said, this should be dealt with. that's all. yeah, yeah, come on, they're few things to do. that's a fact, and definitely hmm uh, a lot of work fighting work. and what other areas cause danger i uh, i understand that uh, if there is such a value, here is the same
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criminal matchmaker. a and if for sure others, i came across, uh, some kind of analytics. and where it was said about five such directions, but we will not give out those military secrets, of course, how would i , let's go up to two, so we sorted out one from this criminal one. uh, then zaporozhye direction. it just looks logical. yes, the overland route to the crimea ah, the zaporizhzhya territories were part of ukraine until the 24th, like they they count on the fact that there is some kind of population loyal to them, although i have been several times to zaporozhye and i hasten to convince all viewers and listeners that there, a population loyal to russia that serves in the russian language, it seemed not only a referendum. i met a huge number of volunteers from these territories as part of the already russian army. yes , therefore, that is, there is a battalion here platov e, formed there, including the former fighters of the armed forces, officers who left. by the way, about this
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topic, former fighters had a few information here, somewhere, perhaps, legends. no, it happened somewhere . what do you know about it? how much? what is this? how massive now i know a couple of people. maybe in the fourteenth year there were more, but now i literally know a couple of people like that. well , it's there, so i saw them in zaporozhye right now to see eh. well, although, i think that we are not using this potential in vain. it is quite possible to unfold it somehow. and well, who would have thought. uh, for example, that from one of the oppositionists to patriotic films, which i grew up with. yes, there alexander nevzorov will turn into just a crazy necrophile, obsessed with horses and it is not clear what, although we remember all his patriotic programs. i think there are enough people on the other side who are disappointed in ukraine, there is nothing to be fascinated with, judging by everything, who are ready, that is, to fight on our side about the charm of ukraine, myths are spreading that the ukrainian population is so
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patriotic it is here so everything is ready to fight, and you say from 20,000. how to tie it all, give, it is different everywhere, the population is ready to fight and fight, they live, by the way, they touched on a good topic they are fighting for europe yes, they say ukraine tsey freedom of europe yes, in general, it’s definitely interesting to come to europe, which is where the british and americans put the industry, there, where they don’t fight anywhere to work for this europe. yes, they are deceived by the simplest slogans and well, i assure you a huge number of people there. uh, they are waiting for us. this suggests that they are coming in an endless stream to my telegram channel to other telegram channels. intelligence there are photos of a video with an overload of ukrainian troops with information. it works our people patriots for free just for free they can actually get hurt, and they can get hurt, yes and er, if many suffer, but knowing it nonetheless . uh, people don't stop fighting, and believe me, this is
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not an isolated case, but vladlen is another topic. and the military left bank of the kherson region will be attacked by all forces. how are you? i think you know, we are watching that the british are americans, they are honing different tactics on this war. well, that is obviously, and since we have maritime powers in britain and the usa. they have always played an important role here in landings. yes, here too, please. uh, dnieper e in britain in the usa a huge number of different boats of special special equipment. i'm sure they will pass on this technique and work it out on our former brothers. experiment. they say go ahead guys. eh, we'll try and see. what are the shortcomings, how can it be done, how can it not be done. i'm sure, by the way, uh, why not. there we are talking about wooing a temporary zaporozhye, and here once in the energodar area, for example, to conduct a landing operation. well, at least they can
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try it. well, nothing with but are there any changes after all? today, too, sergei fomchenkov told me in the morning that the intensity does not fall on the bloody woo indeed, and so there was information that some kind of super elite units were being transferred there. what is it you don’t know at all, where did they come from all of a sudden? well, they have elite units. i just don't know what it is i mean, it wasn't him who said it, but i just, well, honestly, i was following a little bit of another comfort now. well , if at all, yes, then it's clear that m-m. i'm telling you, they attack where they succeed. that is, they have, uh, what units that can be called elite, let's say the eightieth brigade and the mobile, that is, well, the mobile part of the airborne unit, by definition, are considered elite here, plus they are pr volunteers , this kraken battalion, which is based in kharkov in the same direction works, so we
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remember what is different. the legion acted in the same direction. yes, i do not know how you can record it in the elite. yes, well, in an unusual division. that's why they completely allow themselves. why is it now that all the cream of the ukrainian army is located there, and this cream is not like theirs, to make it so that it does not sour very quickly. if some already understanding, in your opinion in a change in our tactics. well, i'll say, so they don't have to give out the details again. if you know, i mean in general. uh, well, i, i just don't know our plans we don’t know the command regarding mine either from the couch. yes, to wear out in defense to counterattack such things. yes, that is, some simple things can be done at all, of course, i will come now. they are constantly trying to advance there. what is an offensive? this is a loss. this is a loss. that is, you had people prepared in britain. they are preparing an offensive there. you've run out of them. well, really, now you need
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to collect the news again in order for them to bring large programs there again, imagine the logistics and that’s all bring the rest again again you have prepared. again you threw on the matchmakers here are the fights in the match . i was there when in early october. it's not in september. it's already december now. here they are trying to break there, imagine, that is, well, every day, uh, they go on the attack and there are not enough people all these days. and now imagine again again and well, as if we have a minute with you literally and a question. do you still think the winter hostilities, they will be more active than now or not, this is not because the earth freeze or why yes if you look at the history of the great patriotic war? uh, there was always fighting in the spring and winter, to- the situation was created. now someone, uh, well, the ukrainian army will exhaust its resource to attack , or it will still decide to attack and exhaust its resource. yes, and we will move on to the counteroffensive. i think that the situation is favorable. we
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see that they all talked en masse about the horrendous losses our strikes on infrastructure. imagine part of the front came to the rotation in hometown, where there is neither light nor water, a splinter. and, well, that is, the generator rumbles, that is, he did not feel the difference between the front and the rear. and this is an auspicious time now for the decisive ones. good luck to you. thank you for coming. i think that we will meet again to discuss all these very sensitive issues. let me remind you, we spoke with a military expert, a writer and a publicist who spoke tatar. changes can change familiar things created to nourish recovery and youth glazkov he is a triple action for a clear look and you and me and you and everyone fix the
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