in which unfortunately recovery or fortunately recovery is not needed and thus. it is from such trifles that the picture is formed that difficulties arise, and the population is degrading. and if we don’t apply, we don’t take some set of measures, then, accordingly, we can lose it in the next 2-3 years already. in fact, and, in general, on our part, but now a proposal has been put forward to create a comprehensive program, a in which both academic science and industry fisheries institutions should be involved. and fish security here, including the region of the russian federation, this turns out to be three regions, because in general, on its way of life, it passes through the territory of the yamalo-nenets circle and the khanty-mansiysk district and reaches the tomsk region. e, in. in general, in order for this program to be effective, and we ask you to study the issue of the possibility

of amending the regulatory documents in order to ensure the effectiveness of the implementation of this program to restore these valuable species. well, timofeevich understood. this, of course, is very special question. it's hard for me for sure. determine how it is necessary to release fry there weighing 0.5 g or 1.5 g. by the way, here special training of knowledge is needed and so on. i have a suggestion you write. does it mean orders or something? work it out the way you see it. understood, thank you very much. if the question is

only purely, as far as i understand. there are some technical details that have not been developed, and therefore, in the old fashioned way, here are the requirements for those who should be engaged in breeding the study of technical details. she then there is a need for special scientific research, but this is the time, and unfortunately we do not have this time now. we can waste these fish species as the biological species agreed. please write, thank you, please continue the topic of regulatory documents, but already in the field of experimental medicine. i have andrey. i am a graduate student at the university. sirius is a junior researcher in the field of gene therapy, and here i am developing methods for the delivery of large genes for the treatment of various

variants of the hereditary environment. previously, these diseases were considered incurable, however, breakthrough achievements in the field of modern genetics. biotechnologies give a chance even to such seriously ill patients today, the greatest success, in this area our colleagues abroad have been able to achieve, worse than science fiction. yes, for those who are not involved in this area, it seems that this is a fantasy, that is, we are talking about the blind, uh, from childhood, in fact. oh well, there, progressive syndromes that are laid down at the level of genetics itself initially. yes, that is, it is inevitable. if yes, inevitable, but nevertheless, the chances are, at least a little bit, andrey nikolayevich is working to ensure that this, uh, that this hopelessness programmed by nature is corrected. yes, without as if just continue on. and about the very measures that need to be taken, and dozens of new genotypic drugs are already being used abroad, and in many ways. this is possible, thanks to

special regulatory documents that allow , e, the use of experimental developments for the treatment of us. diseases further these drugs are used in special university clinics, where the patient is under the supervision of geneticists and biologists, this approach has already helped. uh, save the lives of many who are in distress and we hope to repeat a similar experience in our conditions. moreover, we already have several platforms for this. as you have already seen, sirius is the second center of dmitry rogachev where we can produce such developments, but we cannot apply them yet, since the current legislative of the russian federation allows the use of drugs and substances obtained only by an industrial method, which is not commensurate with the scale of almost individual and genetic mutations, therefore we ask you to instruct us to develop regulations that allow the use of advanced therapy drugs for

patients who do not have alternative methods of treatment to begin such changes. it is possible from the federal territory. sirius since here for this formed the most auspicious. conditions in the form of experimental legal regulation of several already developed drugs and construction prospects, uh, university hospital and further fix. eh, the result is possible at the level of national legislation. thank you, so it's about, uh, an experimental legal regime. yes, yes experimental resolution. e developments in small volumes for the treatment of pc of specific patients, available at first glance. it seems to me that this should be done at first glance. of course, i can't make a final decision right now. well, i don’t understand why there should be such restrictions associated with a mass industrial production. if there is, uh, if it's mass-produced, then we can't be talking about egg cases, of course, how many

people do we have who suffer from such cases? i don't know there, probably not much for that no. necessity is impossible to deploy oil industrial production. i will definitely talk to the naked article about the drawing. i hope she supports. thank you uh-huh and here in the regional sirius, of course, we'll talk with the government. from the ministry of health i think that this can be resolved. yes thanks. uh-huh hello vladimir vladimirovich andrey ivanov director of the irkutsk institute of chemistry of the siberian branch of the russian academy of sciences and i would like to translate the conversation on the topic of ensuring the technological sovereignty of the country now the chemical industry or a related industry suffers from the lack of a sufficiently significant number of basic chemicals that are on the sanctions lists almost all very many . unfortunately, they are not yet produced in the country. and for those positions that the country consumes tens of hundreds a year thousand tons of industrial trade. there is enough is already clear and

the decision of this question. but here, for example, our institute is a participant in the project to create a federal center of chemistry. for the sake of the siberian-usolye , of course, you know about this city. there, under your control, the accumulated environmental damage is eliminated and at the same time a new economic core is created, aimed at the safe, environmentally friendly production of demanded chemicals, but at the same time there is such a segment, it is called microtonage chemistry. this is a huge nomenclature several tens of thousands of compounds that the country consumes, well, about 100 kg per year, several tons per year, and the drama lies in the fact that this is a completely economically unprofitable segment. that is, it is impossible to build a business in this segment, so it is not always produced by anyone , but it is critical for many industries at the same time, and on the other hand, most chemical institutes and universities have their own experience base and relevant competencies for piloting for non-production of small batches, and we them

use. but here is our example again. yes, we at one time developed the original nuclear fuel plasticizer. since then, we have every year. we produce 15 tons each ourselves and this completely covers the needs of the nuclear industry of the russian federation, this is enough. and so my proposal is that in fact. here is such an experimental base, with the proper approach, can be used in order to completely solve the problem of the country with microtonage chemistry, it is clear that this will require some understaffing. but this just fits very easily into the framework of the tasks of the national science projects of its universities, but it could be implemented. well, for example, in the form of such a targeted subsidy, when the organization agrees with the minor fine. for what positions from the list of critical components? we are ready to take responsibility, and we receive a targeted grant that is used to complete the equipment. we, for example, in a year we start production, and we sell it exclusively at

cost for at least 10 years and e, in volumes no less than the russian federation needs. it seems to me that this would be such a wonderful mobilization assistance from science to the whole country. here in this situation. moreover, at the same time, this would lead to the development of the organizations themselves and their infrastructure. it looks like a package solution, because just like chemists, instrument makers, physicists, and so on can be realized. yes, well, in parallel it is very important that, in fact, this is a base. it's all universal after all. these are flexible schemes and, accordingly, in addition to import substitution. we are on the same equipment. we could pilot some new ones in the future, while our domestic developments are already completely original. well, in general , the proposal is to support such an initiative, because, in principle, it can be implemented in an understandable way. thank you andreevich, it is clear that your proposal was dictated by the current situation

and earlier. i think that everything related to this direction was issues. there are a lot of them now. there are even more of them, therefore, such a menu is mandatory, which means the ministry of education and science will formulate and hopefully we will find solutions. they don’t think that some kind of colossal subsidy is needed in order to organize work according to the methodology, at least. thank you hello, my name is igor poznyak. i work in russat russat takes an active part in the creation of scientific centers, throughout the country it is the center of physics and mathematics in the health center of thermonuclear technologies trinity in troitsk in moscow where i work on a fast neutron reactor under construction in the novosibirsk region. uh i beg your pardon ulyanovsk region dimitrovgrad and uh, skiff

accelerator synchrotron complex of the novosibirsk region. and so, uh, this year we have faced new challenges, including restrictions for our scientists to participate in international research, and in this situation, the development of scientific and technical research centers. and it should be a special priority of scientific technological policy, similar to the program of this substitution exists in other areas of the economy to prevent the flow of valuable personnel to attract new specialists, their training is considered extremely important to develop a program of accelerated development russian. centers on the basis of the existing and under construction infrastructure of megasize class facilities a separate item in this program is to provide for the creation of training and production centers, on the basis of which students, and in the future, engineers and experimental physicists will be able to gain hands-on experience, and young scientists will be able to get an opportunity to creating prototypes of their developments with a view to their subsequent implementation. without this, it is difficult to talk about the commercialization of the results of scientific

activities in the field of exact engineering sciences. at as an example, i can cite, the project of a diesel axial engine for light-engine uav aviation, which i and my colleagues have been developing for several years. and it's not just import substitution. it is ahead of the state of the art and development. however, the creation of an industrial prototype is hampered by the fact that investors are not ready to invest in a project at an early stage of development and here one cannot do without state support in the form of the same, for example, engineering training centers production. oh, which i just said, thank you. well, yes, this is essentially a venture investment, and the future is customers. of course, they are not not ready, i probably have a request for you, just like here, please sketch out your proposal, well, through the leadership of sirius, pass it on to me and we'll see. well, though, if i want to pass these on to me. e, too, we will discuss with him

, too, it will be normal or you wo n’t get to him. he is a big boss. no, we met with him this summer, awarding man of the year seedlings met in the summer, until next summer, let's not wait. that is now really. prepare this i give it here while you are at the congress well, thank you, and on my part i would also like to ask you, perhaps, to propose that the government of the russian federation may also develop this program for the accelerated development of russian scientific centers. write that's it, because it's a good suggestion. and i understand where it is, where the problem is. uh, here we go dig up and try to really push this little venture capital investment. there will be no demand on the part of the state, er, the ministry of industry and trade is trying . eh, very, very good one can get? come on, yes, it's one page.

all i will have is just a reason. e with colleagues to talk. okay. thank you. you need a lot of time to fix it all. well , let's try to work in the next week for the week today tomorrow to do something good, will you write one letter a day, or what? thank you today tomorrow do it please pass it on to elena vladimirovna everything is fine. thank you, thank you very much. vladimir vladimirovich good afternoon, olga moskalek. i want my colleague to continue to voice a proposal for scaling up the processes that have tools for the development of high-tech projects. and i work at immanuel kantal university, head of the laboratory of polymer composite materials of the nose x-ray optics for installation, and also an assistant professor, department of engineering

materials science and metrology of the university. promethe, where design and in addition to scientific teaching activities with their students. i created 10 startups in the field of smart materials, and smart text in kaliningrad yes, in kaliningrad and uh, all these fabrics that we created are smart textiles, they are science-intensive high- tech products and due to the fact that we were able to build partnerships, we found a team namely the company of the russian manufacturer of carbon on pipes. at the time in this company was invested by rusnano, and today it is , in principle, the world leader in the production of carbon nanomaterials, as well as our startups received support from the fund for infrastructure educational programs, and the funds have invested about 15 million in our project over the past 5 years. we were able to bring our laboratory technology to industrial technology and it interested a private investor, and just in the kaliningrad region this year a plant was opened using our technology and such projects and there are a lot of developments at universities,

including those in which i work in kaliningrad , st. petersburg and within the framework. e even this congress on display. we present our developments, these are antibacterial self-cleaning fabrics, as well as product samples with a heating function that provide comfortable working and living conditions in extreme conditions of lower temperatures, for example, the actions of the far north, and our scientific teams strive to ensure that these developments come out of the laboratory into real life have become real companies with real useful product and today it is clear that projects find most of the investment support if they are it projects, while science-intensive and you actually logical projects remain in the wall. and besides, today rusna is also in a bad position, there are fears that, in principle, theological startups may be left without proper support. at the same time, within the framework of the congress today, the development of a platform for university technological entrepreneurship is being discussed in order to contribute to the formation of knowledge-intensive

there are many more startups. and i would like to use the experience that we have today and and it was possible to scale it up and give it as much as possible, and to young scientist students to create their own startups and bring them to the level of a factory and their company, in connection with which i have a proposal to consider the option of scaling up the increase in investment support projects, and high-tech projects for young scientists and students. how is it done with developed? namely scientific grants, because i believe that it is such investments and the main and competent support. they helped us get out of the scientific laboratory to the factory in 5 years. thank you so much. yes , well, here is our fund, uh, scientific fund. yes, the main one has the right already such a right has been granted to him to give such grants, including in the field of applied research. they are only in the fundamental area. well, therefore it is possible therefore though to go. i'll give you a hint, and andrey aleksandrovich,

of course, he drew attention to these. very interesting, very much in demand. uh, well, there's only uh, one condition uh, attract uh, attract uh, the so -called customer, well, the future is the future company that will use these developments. yes, so that this future customer, and , uh, invest in specific work, and then he would definitely provide a sales market. but it is quite possible to follow this path. i will definitely orient andrey alexandrovich, he will find it himself. thank you good afternoon altynnik natalya belgorod state technological university named after vladimir grigorievich sukhov vladimir vladimirovich i am a scientist in the field of construction materials science since 2008, i have been working with schoolchildren; i have organized and conducted more than 400 events for children and adolescents aged 5

to 17 to popularize science, and this activity inspired me to write a doctoral dissertation in the direction of pedagogy. i am a member of the coordinating council for youth affairs in the scientific and educational fields. vladimir vladimirovich this year, since august this year, work began on the creation of scientific playgrounds, the main goal of our project is the development and implementation of interactive complexes, in which the child develops not only physically, but also learns the basic basic basic scientific principles, that is, in fact. this is an interactive open-air science museum, where through the game we tell the children what electricity is, how does aerodynamics work? why does the wind blow what makes sound? already now , the central aerohydrodynamic institute is actively participating in the initiative, and the united

shipbuilding corporation and the united institute of atomic energy are in our plans in the future to involve all the technological leaders of russia and jointly develop scientific platforms, and to show the children, developments and technologies, so that in the future the children would have a sense of pride and with confidence, the children would go, uh, to the scientific fields, the main task, and it is natural to get interested in the technologies of early childhood so that the guys growing up go to the scientific fields and further develop our country to the word a each element is a scientific playground, a is equipped with a qr-code with content these are articles videos in which e, simply and actually scientific phenomena are explained in an understandable language, and information about

russian scientific scientists is actually presented, and their achievements are about, and at educational institutions, e, higher educational institutions of various creative circles. e, own spo institutions, vladimir vladimirovich , please support our initiative, and to spread our project e to all regions of the country so that scientific playgrounds are available in every subject of russia perhaps this is an instruction to the regions. this is happening already. well, you probably know, yes, that by 2025 we have somewhere between 35, in my opinion, up to 50 sites of such e, c. e, in my opinion, i do not remember how many in 30 cities of e we are planning this work, so we will continue to do this. this is a very good, sought-after and noble work, which means that you mentioned that you provide information about the

achievements of russian science. well, i can already say, of course, i am a soviet russian in general about the history of science, especially the development of science in our country, achievements, and our scientists about the popularization of science in our country. uh, many uh, many after perelman was revered there and such are the outstanding popularizers of science. eh, we always had a lot of talented people, scientists themselves. and uh, very interesting. we intelligibly told young people who are starting their life path. e about what science is, how interesting it is, how it captures a person. and this is the first step towards creating a very good scientific environment, so about creating such platforms, oh, which you said, uh, this is a very interesting thing. and i promise you, of course we are over

we will work on this in the regions. eh, we will definitely work on the countries and expand the replication. er, what are you doing. thanks to. no, not for anything. to you. thank you so much. this is a noble work. i have already spoken about this several times, i am not too lazy and i think that it is not necessary to say it again. one of the last meetings is the last, in my opinion, i am now burned out by aleksandrovich. he told me, you give too little to questions on science is not acceptable. we need to work on this. his criticism was correct and unfortunately still we have not done everything to e put this work on the proper level. this is exactly what helps you. thank you so much. dear vladimir vladimirovich colleagues from nadezhda bortau almazov national medical research center in st. petersburg vladimir vladimirovich thank you very

much for today's meeting and the opportunity to share ideas and suggestions with you. i will continue the topic of attracting people to science, because achieving the goal of a decade of science and technology relies heavily on attracting talented young people capable of effectively searching for non-standard solutions, while being close to us. there are people for whom every day is overcoming which often has a different view of the problem and generates innovative non-standard solutions. these are persons with disabilities health persons with disabilities. today, in addition to special projects in many states, there are national programs. digital economy. culture, tourism, education personnel. there are separate activities, targets for people with disabilities maybe. i emphasize health in many, but not in two key science programs. we are confident that the early active involvement of talented people with disabilities in

research work will ensure their conscious career guidance and effective employment, so we ask you to support our proposal to include various inclusive research projects for children and youth with health disabilities . in the plan for a decade of science and technology, or may be as a separate initiatives or in the form of separate events and projects within the already existing 18 initiatives on their part. we are undoubtedly preparing such projects, for example, an initiative group of participants in the program for the development of a personnel management reserve in the field of science and technology of higher education is preparing an inclusive event for schoolchildren called technology without borders for here, in order to prove and show the possibility of full and fruitful participation in scientific projects, regardless from the state of health in such key areas, like biomedicine, information technology,

renewable energy, new materials development and ecology, and we strongly believe that the early active immersion of talented individuals with disabilities. health, in scientific creativity will allow us to grow a new shade. such as konstantin tsiolkovsky mathematician. lev pancreatin psychologist alexander suvorov and many others. thanks a lot. it’s great because it’s even strange that we have decades of science and technology in this program, which the program also arose, uh, the initiative of your colleagues back no e nothing if so right. i understood nothing about the increase in the scientific activity of people with disabilities, health, really. you mentioned tsiolkovsky, uh.

this is the founder of astronautics, the genius of the whole world since childhood has lost aloud. well, this did not prevent him from becoming a discoverer and a brilliant scientist, i repeat, i repeat all over the world. and, of course, this is not the only example of people with disabilities achieving outstanding results. i, of course, their talents demand you, so uh is a subprogram or e, well, or a fake plan of work with such a category of e, future researchers in e, in the program for decades of science and technology, of course, you need to make such a sub-program you need to do. thanks for the tip, we'll definitely do that. thanks a lot. vladimir vladimirovich hello, my name is evgenia dolgova and i work at the russian state

university for the humanities. i am a scientist and specialize in the history of the soviet scientific community and my own history, science and my question is dedicated. the fact is that initiated by you the distillery of science and technology is rather an unconditional mega-project. however, in my opinion, as a historian of science. it must be accompanied by a powerful science program, and in this regard, of course, it will complement and increase its value, but the state of the industry is not simple and, unfortunately, the history of science, and very often very few universities do not teach a very small department of history systematically. sciences, but single textbooks. and uh, there are very few magazines where you can publish and, of course, such the state of things. and it does not contribute to systematic research, not to that, but not to the problem that you spoke about, namely, the training of scientific

personnel or the development of leading scientific schools, which certainly exist in our country and, in my opinion , this state of affairs does not yet correspond to that the meaning and content of the plot, which has a national history of science and, in this respect. i am like a historian. er, thank you for a separate initiative of the year within the framework of the decade of science and technology, namely the eighth initiative to work with experience, which puts before us very important. well, difficult, but certainly achievable tasks, namely, to introduce research into scientific circulation, to make available that colossal experience that, a , the history of science has experienced in its development, and, uh, in this regard. of course, all these goals will be set and fulfilled. but we need a foundation and we need new scientific journals, we need scientific discussion forums we need textbooks

on the history of science, including, for example, we even need the digitization of archival documents scientific heritage of the russian empire and the soviet era. and, to be honest, i would ask you to support the initiative to strengthen the presence of the history of science not only in popular science practice, but also in the educational and professional space. thank you what's to support how what needs to be done is support? here is what you would like, here you are doing a very important very interesting thing. history of science. this is the detective. you can probably write a single story. so that will attract the attention of readers of millions of people. well, here's what you need. that's exactly what it takes to support your work, i think