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and this is very pleasing. in fact, this is the interaction with the state. and how did the pandemic change digitalization within the church itself. uh, because, well, in the west. it is a fairly common practice to order commemoration notes there through uh sites. uh temples to monasteries. here, uh, in the russian orthodox church. it somehow got on stream during the pandemic. i would like to know, maybe, uh, make such a disclaimer or somehow demolish some. it seems important to me. it's to sound digitalization and technology artificial intelligence. these are not synonyms. in general, yes digitalization. it includes artificial intelligence technologies, but the name is limited, of course, and the church does not use neural networks for big data analysis and things like that. all these algorithms are not used there, there is nowhere to use them and there is no need. we have other tasks, we solve them, but by other methods. uh, well other big
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data, but digitization really. uh, we're coming. in what sense? ah. there are websites of monasteries of parishes of diocesan e-e departments of synodal departments of the patriarchy, after all, there are blogs of priests who write on church topics. but these restrictions are related to the coronavirus. we have been pushed to make broadcasts of worship services, to accept notes online. and somehow this whole thing is strengthened , increased and made known to hold conferences. well, thanks also to the development of online technologies, this is all we use. it somehow quite organically entered our lives. but it’s not bad if we say an older generation of parishioners who goes to church. uh, i was more tolerant of modern gadgets, because i often observed how uh. well, they almost took them out of the temple because
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people read prayers there, electronic words, during the liturgy, that is, not everyone evokes, uh, a reaction of understanding. well , you know, here, uh, i want to quote the film like a prisoner of the caucasus. yes, but not in our area. here on the territory of our pereslavl party there is nothing of the kind, no one deduces any e to anyone, we do not have conflicts on this matter. here so i can well comment on this matter in my parties. yes, we somehow have everything very competently, thank god, uh, he excelled here. pope francis, let's move on to international news. he stated that the most quoting of the brutal part of the russian troops in ukraine are those who grew up outside the russian tradition, such as the buryats and chechens. this caused, of course, the righteous anger of russian society from sergei lavrov, in particular, said that this does not help, neither the authority of the vatican nor the settlement of the situation in ukraine really. hey dad rimsky has repeatedly
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tried to act as a kind of mediator since the beginning of his own. well, in general, he stood up for ukraine for the ukrainians and so on held a number of meetings. well, that's the kind of statement they make. do you think they contribute to, uh, what the world is. will come earlier to be angry, of course i will not, but because anger is a destructive emotion. and i think that our church will also give the committees an assessment of this statement of the pope of rome, well, like a person, like a person, there is no voice in the church, like a person. i, of course, i think. such statements are unprofessional, let's say so. and therefore unacceptable, because when we talk in the kitchen, there is something somewhere you can do similar things with friends and warm up. yes, but when a person of the level of a-a of the pope of
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the roman writer of the church singles out two peoples and speaks of their particular cruelty. eh, it looks very ugly, because you know what it smells like nazis. if nazism, if you like, because uh, well, christians are absolutely convinced that there are no nations that are more cruel than more gentle or some even more sinful and more intellectual, and so on. we are people we are all people and in christ all are equal and of course, that's such a distinction, especially in this context. it seems unacceptable to me, well then, the question that i traditionally ask all my guests lately is what is personally for you as a person. ah, would it be a victory for russia and a defeat for all, this is a very difficult question. answering which one must choose the words very correctly. ah. of course,
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i thought about it, and i can not say that until the end for he formulated himself, of course, he does not think everything that the first point is the cessation. ending the suffering of people, ending the death of people, this is the second victory. again, i don’t know how the grace of god is there for us and the ukrainian people, so that there is no plant between us, so that god grants forgiveness. those who have suffered in one way or another and hold a grudge and lost loved ones. this is what i really want and i think that if this happens, then it will be a victory continuation and these are escalations and well, actually, they are opposite
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opposite. i hope and we all pray that, er, lord, grant victory and heal this conflict. i can't, i'm not a politician. after all, i ca n’t, and i’m not a military expert, i can’t talk about some such specific things there, yes, but about some economic aspects of the territories or , uh, i can’t talk about agreements between states . i can only look at people and at specific people who are suffering and of course we, well, i think there is no person who would not experience pain in this regard, and i would like and again repeatable pray that uh, it somehow stops by the grace of god that you hmm before the start of the recording program. you told me that you watched all the episodes, that means the monastery, which was already making noise in the series. it was sensational because even before
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the release of all the series, the first one had just appeared on the internet, and already there was news that minkul showed the series to be banned. ah, and supposedly the reason for this, and this is the russian orthodox church and an insult to the feelings, believers, who are seen in this means artistic work. you watched it all, what do you say, as a spectator, as a priest, as a spectator, as a priest, and i would also add, as a monk. i will say that the one shown there does not match. nothing, that is, me. it does not hurt at all, because i just know very well the church life of the monastic reality. and i know it well. i understand that just some scenery and to reality. all this has nothing to do with not just watching, but people who know the church life of the monastery as well as i do everything
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but not very much. i'm not saying that the main most important expert in principle, there are few of us like that. yes, and absolutely the majority of viewers do not know anything and live by some kind of stereotypes. that is why, in this sense, the film is not seen. e. well, here, he's just just dishonest let's say dishonest. though if to abstract and in general to look it is good good tried good houses. it's great that they remembered the church christian theme, probably great, but especially i will say that the first second series somehow they were interesting to me intrigued, but after the third e it became insulting. and uh, it's boring because there the action begins in the nunnery and in the nunnery it is shown in some completely caricatured and many events. there they line up around the illness of one of the rapists of the monastery and the abbess and other sisters do not allow her to be treated, they forbid taking medicines and
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so on. but this is, in fact, some you know, m-m. here in real women's monasteries. it's all the other way around. you see, how this one, i would even say, well, unhealthy reversal, that is inversion is like that. e i have my own diocese. e 10 monasteries. there are six of them women's and i see i am constantly myself. well, what's more, my house in pereslavl is located on the territory of a convent. i lived in a convent. and i see how , uh, the abbess and all the abbesses relate. to their sisters and what they do to keep their sisters healthy and warm in every way, uh, and prosperous. here, too, there is some kind of simply categorically falsehood, and there is no cruelty of such an unsimilar relationship; there is nothing in it. real monasteries. it's just some kind of fantasy. so i know, i heard that this fantasy is taken from one book. well, there are a lot
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of questions about this book. well, lada cream can here mean, with what points can i argue? first, cinema. it's not life of course, any playwright. you will say that a means that the script laws are completely different than even literary book ones. well, all the more so what they do in documentaries, so this is an attempt, as it were, to create an image of a character, some kind of hero arc that goes there from point, a to point b, is transformed by passing this one, and the second moment, about which you say that this is not in this monastery. well, here, i know, a monastery, where several elderly monks left the life of e, due to the fact that there are 10 or more days there. they were in closed cells when there were all indications during the pandemic of hospitalization on the il apparatus, but the governors believed that it meant the withdrawal of the evil one and rested in this way. these uh these people, therefore, there are probably different examples,
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but with regard to to modern medical technology inside the monasteries. i think that each specific case of death, of a rapist, must be analyzed separately. do you understand what's the matter, if a monk nun dies, the bishop has questions, for what reason did this happen? why medical assistance was not provided, the question is generally raised of the professional suitability of the abbot, but there is another country that the abbot himself may refuse medical assistance. sometimes they need to be persuaded, because people, well, they think for themselves. it happens to be redundant. i don't say it general history it happens like this, but then again, you understand what the problem is. after all, it's a problem. eh, it seems to me that it is more global, like when films are made about a family or with the participation of, so to speak, families. well, most of them
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anyway, otherwise, as a rule, a family with some kind of internal problem is a little flawed, and we rarely see on the screens, uh, examples of a complete, full -fledged harmonious family, or this is a mother with singles. uh, single, is there a woman divorced with a child, or is there some kind of conflict, or is it the male. the same, or there is some kind of hmm, some vices inside the whole thing, or some kind of lovers of a mistress and so on. we see that somehow everything is not great. and just like that, offhand, and not all of them, maybe you won’t be able to remember recent films and tv shows in which such well -known ones are hmm successful, yes, which a harmonious, complete family was shown, we almost don’t see it, i have a question and i understand that it is interesting to look at it, but obviously it reflects. e part of some reality, but you can't to say that this is the norm. you know, when they shot the
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film of the autumn marathon, if it were a story, yes, to a faithful wife who had decided, it would probably be a completely different movie. and there are so many films like this. i understand everything, i understand the problems, i understand, but i don’t think that we, uh, how society should have some good exemplary literary examples, including graphic examples. i understand that there are problems. i understand that there is a hero. just throwing all these complexities. i understand everything, but where to get examples good examples well, uh, monasteries are also monasteries, as a rule, absolutely wonderful organizations, let’s say they don’t have those internal problems, uh, that are shown in this series and moreover, because of the fact that globally speaking, again. the believers themselves are shown there as some
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very hysterical people who are just on the verge of a nervous breakdown of these prayers that they shout. this is all like a stretched string. and yet e in the series is constantly exploited. here is passion, er, prodigal passion, as if for monks, this is right here, the main problem with which he is not struggling. i'm a monk, it's not. well, it's true, it's not like that, there are other difficulties in this sense as well. the series is similar, you know, to its lie on excuse me, some films, uh, 18+, indecent why? because after all, these films, 18+, which they do not reflect, but what happens in the family of what happens between a man and a woman, this is not true. this is a lie and or, let's say, reduce marriage only to an intimate relationship between a man and a woman. well, it's deep, untrue, marriage is completely different, yes, and
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around this, let's build storylines, where there is marriage. everything is just in some kind of terrible tension with episodic slipping into hysterics around this issue. well, it's kind of simple. well, i don’t know why you are talking, anyway, young, maybe not yet cooing, and knows a lot of details about the life of people in the church. well, i could ask. so i understand that there is some kind of suit. if this is removed, then the whole plot falls down there, here i am, or how to say it correctly? well, you know better than me what cinematic terms are, i don’t know them, but nevertheless, everything is built around this. it seems to me that this is not true. since we are talking about cinema, of course, i can't help but ask you about the recent law on the total ban on lgbt propaganda among all age categories in the country. well, as a believer. i understand that this is for the good, why it is done by one’s own what and to preserve what on the territory of our country, and
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multi-confessional, by the way, but now it’s like comes a very important stage. so i say, there, with people who are filmmakers and so on, a committee has now been created, as far as i understand, in the ministry of culture, which will review the script of the films. here, in fact, on the subject and this is propaganda and not only is it possible, for example, these are insults to feelings, believers and so on, that is, to some. i mean, censorship is back. and here, of course, it is extremely important who will proofread these films that have not yet happened and hmm how picky this censor will come to you people go to confession yes, i just don't really understand how, for example, a priest. can help the confessor, if he is not completely, talks about his sins, well, he comes. that's how blurry it is. here i behaved badly , offended someone, yes, when we confess sins, we name them
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quite specifically. how can you create a work of art if you don’t talk about sins at all because, in principle, under the ban lgbt propaganda, you can attract a lot of things if you wish, probably, i didn’t read the text of this of the prohibition of the law, however, as a very sacred klyren told me a monk befits the scripture to know, they are acts of state structures. well, well, i 'll tell you, that's what you say, that it's impossible to talk about sin without showing it, without naming it, and since it's impossible to talk about it, then it's impossible to fight it. so i understood correctly. er, you must have read it. and shalamov and solzhenitsyn and oleg volkov yes, of course, all three of them were in our university program. well, you remember, uh. what
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is the difference between oleg vasilyevich volkov and his book plunging into darkness from here from solzhenitsyn and from a slut. oleg vasilievich does not have a description of someone who is not creepy, and so on, he is up to that. he doesn’t get it, he uses other literary techniques so that a person understands everything. and a person really understands everything; when reading , we don’t need a language, and even more so, er. the means of the visual arts of cinematography are, well, you know better than me, nevertheless, this is a very powerful weapon, that is, it is a very powerful language with which you can, and by different methods things to express and how it's done. well people are taught. i am convinced that there is no need. and here are the details so that it is clear what is at stake. and well, there are other means. in general, i am against it. excuse me for such a direct frontal
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approach. he. it seems to me, a little bit not for thinking people. i just have concerns, as it were, uh, well, they are too patriotic. eh, the directors did not slip. uh, here’s to the creation of works, well, i don’t know anything similar there the queen of the gas station in the soviet era, yes, the work obviously not photographic shdm, and then it was fashionable to castigate popov now means to castigate, uh, continuous next to gigi don't be afraid. i like any and all extremes. they think that extremes are no good for them. no, there should be a reasonable approach and i hope that it will be. but if we talk about censorship, i think we understand that censorship is a smart person, the creator of the film of the book, will always find a way to get around and say whatever he
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wants so that those for whom this message is addressed to hear and understand we we know what it is danelia did absolutely wonderful in his films, what is he? well, it describes. this is yes, not only he when he inserted things there that would certainly be cut out. that's it, but it won't hurt. here's a picture, just not in a thorny course. here is the look, of course. just other passengers. well, you know how it works. here are the programs i want to raise. this is a sore topic apparently for a part of our society for women in russia, a topic where the criminalization of domestic violence, which was established in russia in 2017, is a whole series of news recent times. on this topic, well, one of the high-profile stories is connected with our colleague , a journalist, former spectator and rbc oksana grishina, she spent 2 months in a pre-trial detention center for exceeding her self-defense and killing her ex-husband, he
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terrorized her for 17 years beat her there. in general, she didn’t have a single whole rib, knocked out her teeth, terrorized the children, and the police had no tools to respond before the tragedy happened in russia there is no law on domestic violence, and on the fingers it means that you haven’t been hospitalized yet the police have nothing to respond to, how do you feel about the fact that in russia there is no law on domestic violence and i am extremely negative and painful. uh, any form of violence. naturally in domestic violence is violence against women over children. as far as i know, uh, after all , no one argues with this, with what they brought in, they are permissible. question to this draft law itself. uh, we are talking about the fact that it needs to be finalized, that it is unacceptable in its existing form, but
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a lot has been said about this by the patriarchal commission on family issues and the protection of motherhood and childhood is a large document. it's been around for 3 years, i think . here, anyone can find it. it's easy, so to speak. e search engines issued and called the document. well, just e now i will say. well, apparently, the answers to this, the draft law, but about domestic violence. well, i don’t remember completely, there are a lot of words, but this is some kind of reaction, and the churches to this document. he's very weighted. what it is, and there are so many points of the main claim that e not defined the concept of violence, we understand who it is? well, now i understand now, so offhand i say, maybe not in the sameness then, but what about the family? generally perceived, that is, it is described by this law as a notoriously gloomy and dangerous place. well, it's not that
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the drafts of the law come from the logic of the law, but it turns out that any family must be kept under scrutiny. uh, watching several at once. e. state bodies if it didn't work out? there is also a question regarding the violation of some uh paragraphs of the constitution of the russian federation if this law is adopted, and so on. that is, no one argues because no one comes to mind. says yes. let's close our eyes. and what happens there is none of our business? of course not, we can't help but worry. i have to stay every time we read such news, or when you hear about it, of course, it’s scary that men who are subjected to daily domestic violence from the fact that where it is on the internet there are answers from the russian orthodox church and criticism is not legal easier and e in my deep conviction. is it
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necessary to violate some article of the constitution and attract the close attention of some family, for example, after a woman appeals to the police, yes, but the main right will be preserved, according to the constitution, the right to life. she either means a tyrant who uh means torments her, but because preventive measures can save his life, otherwise i think it's worth it, isn't it. i think, personally, i think yes, but then again, we're not talking on a legal plane right now. we're just like people are with you, just like the townsfolk say, we are both with you, uh, against this violence - this is natural, and we are thinking about how to stop it, but when we move into the legal field and talk about a specific draft law, there there are all sorts of questions to him and he needs improvement. that's all, in its existing form, we believe it cannot be accepted for the reasons already mentioned above. but as soon as
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possible, of course, something must be done in this sense in order to minimize the damage inflicted on people on a positive note. those who are victims of such violence, where they can be selected in the church. which hotlines if you need help? uh, we have, huh? the social ministry department of church charity has a hotline, and they are also easily accessible on the internet. he always, i think, about well, they will give some kind of answer and help in some way, we are creating uh, at monasteries at ekhe at transitions at home, so-called mother. where can a woman go when she has nowhere to go? well, kicked her out over the beatings, and the inability to be at home with a child, please, you can stay there, and she will warm and fed dressed and a child also, that is, we have such. e institutions, please, also to all distant departments of church charity, but they will always help, give addresses
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