and some as it seems to us already, er, begin to think. uh, means any uh, hmm any, uh, more active participation of their western. uh, with uh an ally today and a neighbor in ukrainian affairs. ultimately, it will be aimed at tearing away the ukrainian territories of the western part of ukraine e. it would be nice if they, uh, thought about it and understood what is happening, but god bless them , i repeat their case, so, uh, about your proposal. i agree with this. let's work it out and thank you for being like this formulated in a way. but separate elements of this russophobia, including the impact on children and so on. well, what's surprising here, if we know that in some western countries. uh, an animal in a zoo in front of children is killed butchered and so on. this

absolutely does not correspond to our culture, the culture of the peoples of the russian federation, not only the russian people of all other peoples, but, well, it happens there. that's where it happens. they don't use very , uh, harsh public enforcement measures. consciousness. well, god is in the court, but i think that in the end it will turn against them . let's move on, please, the next inferior svetlana gennadievna makhovitskaya director of the fort center for civil analysis and independent research season gennadievna a. perhaps better specialists expert, in how the institutions of russian civil society function, including, uh, legal aspects, please thank you very much respect vladimir vladimirovich dear colleagues, they are commercial organizations, including charitable organizations, volunteer associations continue

to help russian citizens within walking distance in the face of various weaknesses in the sanctions pressure of crisis phenomena that arise, but at the same time, the organizations themselves live their lives and i would like to draw attention to the need to solve the problems of organizational building of these the most non-profit organizations. the increasingly complex legal environment for non-profit organizations is clear, but there are barriers that arise due to controversy related to the basic legislation on non-profit activities and the civil code , the main inconsistencies arise due to the fact that the civil code regulates the activities of non-profit organizations, while the basic federal law of december 1996 continues to be in force for non-profit organizations. well, actually, the non-commercial practice itself , unfortunately, has not yet been brought into line with the civil code of the russian federation

, the provisions of the law on oncologists that relate to creation of non-profit organizations processes for the adoption of constituent documents for the elimination of oncology activities of the supreme body of non-profit organizations and we know that the civil code offers a unified approach that is rigid enough for a rigid concept of a legal entity for a non-profit organization and a basic one. commercial organizations could make this approach more flexible make it more understandable transparent and easy to use by commercial organizations. however, this is not happening and as a result there are a large number of contradictions and develops independently two families of legal acts, some changes in the civil code and other changes in the laws of commercial organizations and public associations, giving rise to a wide variety of practices, and to regulate the activities of non-profit organizations. in some cases it is difficult. after even registering a non-profit organization, because the civil code of the

russian federation and the developers of the law of non-profit organizations among themselves requirements, for example, article sixty-five of the civil code, and the highest body of the corporation, which includes public associations, is considered to be the meeting of participants, and articles six, eight of our basic law in public associations. he believes that no members of public organizations take part in management, and it should be managed by members of the organization, so the creator of the statutory documents, oncologists, still acts in consultations with the justice authorities at his own risk and chooses one or another approach. in addition, more one problem of our basic federal law is that it includes articles on both non-state non-profit organizations, though state corporations and budgetary institutions with state and municipal participation, and as a result, the legislator is forced to make special changes to regulatory actions, and

clarifying those or other, for example, measures of support to it by state commercial organizations. or they apply to public commercial organizations special regulation of the activities of state ngos, as a rule, are now moved to specialized laws, for example, the federal law on education of the russian federation, this, from our point of view, is actually inexpedient. retaining the general provisions for regulating state and non-state npos in the law in npos, it makes sense to separate non-state commercial organizations from commercial organizations with state participation and finally decide on a uniform approach and adopt, uh, a new bill, concerning the basic law of the activities of non-profit organizations, and the activities of state non-profit organizations can be regulated by transitional provisions for the adoption of the relevant federal law, another small snag is that it is necessary to remove the barrier for non-profit organizations and for the management of

a non-profit organization are caused by the archaic nature of the norms. establish a non-profit organization with a coaching teacher or for-profit structure. this is a completely different practice, in fact, it creates very commercial organizations and then has the right not to take part in its activities forgets about it, and so on. listen close. he's a long -lived non-profit organization there. witnesses who have lost contact with it, died and left, can be liquidated if it is a legal entity. however, the fact that their non-participation in the activities of the organization is not taken into account at all in the requirements for the decision of an npo. in some cases, for example, autonomous non-profit organizations can not independently form a but changes to the documents, since it is related to e to requirements for the powers of the founders, and any connection with them may be lost, and in some cases, additional restrictions arise when it is necessary to liquidate a non-profit organization and a decision must be made on liquidation,

which is possible either by an authorized body by a court decision or by a decision of the founders. we run into a problem again. and when the founder does not participate in the activities of the organization of communication with him , you lose the decision to expel him on the fact of death, absence in life ncl. nobody can and therefore, no one can use the founders' decision mechanism for liquidation. and accordingly, society is forced to spend the resources of state authorities on the liquidation of npos in court, as it seems to us, it is long overdue to allow the possibility of exclusion from the list of founders of npos at the initiative of the governing bodies of the non-profit organization itself. concerning. we have a request. vladimir vladimirovich, we ask you to give instructions to the government of the russian federation with the participation of the human rights council under the president russian federation and involvement of expert organizations. in the area of ​​npo practice, to decide on a unified approach to the further development of legislation in the non-profit sector, drafting

draft laws that will regulate the activities of all non-state commercial organizations in order to eliminate the contradiction of npo legislation, taking into account the preservation of a unified approach to regulation of activities, for example, on the basis of the civil code. at the same time, it is necessary to take into account the flexibility and adequacy of the established practice of regulating activities individual organizational and legal forms, which can be considered through a number of independent legislative acts. and also in connection with what i said about the founders of the instructions of the government of the russian federation to amend the laws governing the activities of whom and public associations, which allow excluding the composition of the founders of persons who have died liquidated having lost contact organizations at the initiative of the organization itself and sorry. excuse me, valery alexandrovich excuse me, vladimir vladimirovich, completely small the last piece, about which i did not warn, but i can not say anything about the problem that i think worries a significant number of people in our country. this is what the threat of world nuclear war is. it seems that

now the real prevention of such a threat, as it seems to me, is overvalued, it seems to me that a true gesture of goodwill could be your personal statement, vladimir vladimirovich, that russia will not use the first nuclear weapon under any circumstances and possibly clarification in connection with this major inflammatory response to nuclear deterrence. sorry for the last layer section being off-topic, but it's completely impossible to remain silent about what there are so many fears about? thank you, of course, it means about, uh, hmm, something about the threat of nuclear war svetlan gennadiev. well, you are right, such a threat is growing here, which speaks about the fact that russia will not use the first under any circumstances, but if it does not apply, the first under no circumstances, then the second will not apply either, because e the possibility of using e, in the event of a nuclear strike on our territory. they are severely limited, however. we have, uh, a strategy. our

uh, the use of uh, means of protection, namely, as protection, we consider weapons of mass destruction nuclear weapons. uh, she's all set. e around the so-called. response to counter strike. that is, when panama strikes, we, e, carry an answer, which means that there is something that everyone is discussing now. uh, the so-called uh tactical nuke, uh, it churns it american nuclear weapons are located in large numbers on european territory. we didn’t transfer our uh to anyone, we don’t transfer nuclear weapons , but, of course, we don’t transfer our allies. we will protect, defend with all the means at our disposal, if necessary, but, uh, what's the point here is that it's the same as in the previous case when russophobia spoke. eh, no one

notices and does not want to notice and see what is being done and said in eh, neighboring countries. e in western countries. here i already said. we are our own nuclear weapons, including tactical ones on the territory of other countries, do not contain the americans. and in turkey and in a number of other european countries, this is how they conduct training on the possibility of using the carriers of these countries for the use of american nuclear weapons. we haven't done this yet. nothing, uh, this is the second third. e. were we talking about the possibility of applying no, so the former e will not be mentioned by the evening, which means the prime minister of great britain she directly publicly said that she was ready for this do in response. i had to. uh, some things also immediately emphasize her statement, no one noticed. and what we say immediately

sticks out, and uh, these, uh, these statements start to scare the whole world, which means, uh, that's why we have n't lost our minds. we are aware that we have such nuclear weapons for these means, and they are in a more advanced and more modern form than any other nuclear side. this is obvious today. yes, an obvious fact, but we are not going to brandish it. weapons. uh, like razors, running around the world. well , of course, we proceed from the fact that it is what it is. naturally, the deterrent is not provoking, but to widen conflicts of deterrent fact. i hope everyone understands this now about e about your proposals. e in relation to improving the regulatory framework and the legal framework. e de. of course they are

such organizations. uh, at the beginning i want to say that in general the activities of non-profit organizations are extremely important for our country, because and e. i have spoken about this many times and i am absolutely sincere. where the officials are even fine-looking even e are well trained and sincere people in the apparatuses. e bureaucrats. er, they try to achieve the maximum result of their work, after all, non-profit organizations often turn out to be more effective, bearing in mind that they do not work for money. first of all, to work at the call of the heart on a such, such a motivation to help people on a achieve results in extremely important sensitive social spheres. it is extremely important for the final result, so we are interested in creating an effective pro-legal framework. and here are

all your suggestions. i understand that, uh, you have them prepared, they must, uh, other departments of justice, probably, first of all, have to work out together with uh, the main legal department of the presidential administration. eh, such an assignment is definitely a lady and i will ask you to give alexandrovich so on. she's a job offer. and of course you are right, if you do it do it, the same is done together with the government and with the rights council person. with experts well, such as you, thank you please thank you vladimirovich very businesslike working cooperation has been established documents that will soon be the following, speaker uh, kirill ilyich kabanov uh, chairman of the public organization national anti-corruption committee kirillich, please, dear colleagues. 2 years

ago, we discussed the need to recognize the concept of protecting human rights in the digital space of the russian federation, and based on your receipt of an instruction from the hrc, together with the government prepared this document, a decree is always being prepared, but in the course of studying the problem, it became clear that for the development of the digital space and technology, by the way, artificial intelligence, which was recently discussed and most of these years of the economy, it is necessary to work with personal data. some players, and in this industry , are trying to prove that personal data is a commodity, and being the property of a business, which they somehow received incomprehensibly how yes, but in essence this is not so, first of all, a store from the position security of human rights and freedoms of citizens, there are already a lot of negative examples. uh, i'm saying only this year, and in the twenty-second year, and hmm, a big public outcry caused uh,

cases of leakage of personal data of customers of various color platforms. so, for example, and dikla has yandex information and food. well, it seems that food supplies are okay, but they immediately leak out, and the base is several million. a gemotest a clinic matest customers, for example, gemotest we see that the results of the analyzes of citizens in medical analyzes blood tests and other tests, and the constituent doctors yes, there the secret becomes public and enters the general network, and a similar estrus. may entail very specific negative consequences, but the responsibility for the application of such fines. e for such signs. ue leakage is 60,000 rubles. 60.000 rub. for several million leaks, but in fact this does not correspond to the severity of the garden and a, since we

are talking about data leaks of millions of citizens. of the latest examples, 36 buyers posted personal data for open access online stores. some of them are specifically mobilized family members. this is data with their phones with cards of surnames, patronymics. we are well aware that in today's situation, personal data is of interest not only for business, but first of all, it is of interest. i need a state. and in this regard, it seems expedient to become higher turnover fines, primarily for those companies that have leaked personal data. and it ensures the protection of personal data and e will stimulate business enhanced security. but it is not

necessary to deprive the problem of turnover fines alone of introducing criminal liability for the illegal circulation of personal data, since in most cases it is not just about accidental leaks. this is either theft, theft, or deliberate, but some kind of theft within the company. and when we talk about personal data, we continue to talk about fraud, and in russia e money is fine for me. you know you talked about it, that in this theft happens from the territory of hostile states there steals from pensioners steals from people who are poorly protected we believe that we should read the mechanism for the return of funds, because the state, to be honest, including law enforcement officers, is inefficient and does not promptly respond to such threats and such acts. in conclusion, there is a very

important aspect i believe that my colleagues. uh uh, before earning any project related to artificial intelligence technology. the development of a digital system needs to be studied and draw up a map of possible risks, theft of personal data. you understand the steps of their defenders. in case such risks really exist and uh their probability. their high, such a project should not go out. and by the way, we have seen such projects that are now connected with personal data. specifically, specifically related to people, there is a request for instructions, but it is necessary to give instructions to the ministry of internal affairs and the ministry of internal affairs a to submit a proposal to amend the legislation. uh, establishing the turnover of fines, first of all, increasing them significant increase reaching the subjects. and

uh. most importantly, uh, discuss the possibility of criminal liability for the illegal circulation of neatly personal data. this is the responsibility to introduce this new perfect concept, but we are doing it by analogy with drug trafficking. there will be concepts and legal circulation of personal data and the second, and the instruction of the central banking federation to work out the possibility they have already begun to discuss this together, and with us and our colleagues about the mechanism compensation of credit e organizations of sberbanks of funds stolen from u and clients as a result of fraudulent activities, because 90% of fraudulent activities are a leak of personal data. thanks for the course. uh huh. well, a very important question. without any doubt. you must have heard. e. i always say this when we discuss the development of modern artificial intelligence technologies and so on, because

many of these technologies are impossible. uh, apply impossible to use big data it, using without these same data, including personal issues, of course, in the protection of these personal data. this is definitely one. the key issues of progress in this most important for the development of the economy and social sphere, trade e, so e yes, but for now that's all i agree with you. kiril is absolutely unregulated and needs this additional regulation. uh, and there's probably a need for tightening. e responsibility. e for an offense in this area here. uh, as for the opposite on fines and criminal responsibility. well, as i understand it, criminal liability. you're talking about criminal liability for nah for illicit trafficking.

after all, those who use use yeah, those who use this data must understand, they must know and understand that they use the stolen data in this way, because even the property that is in ukraine if it is simple. a traitor is a conscientious buyer of this or that property, he does not know in good faith that this is a stolen goods. well, by analogy the same thing here, of course, this needs to be worked out as it should, but, on the whole, you are absolutely right. i agree with you. this is definitely absolutely necessary, but to think about and take timely balanced decisions that will protect the interests of citizens and will not be an obstacle to the development of information technology technologies that are very necessary for the state. so here is the turnover penalty. and generally something like that. well, of course, you need to think about this turnover

penalties, not by chance about it. they said because for certain companies, turnover states can be simply colossal and this, of course, is such a serious thing, but certainly e you are right that decisions should be worked out and decisions should be made accordingly. clearing the interests of citizens, regarding the return of funds lost by citizens as a result of fraudulent activities using the latest technology. there are certain difficulties here, which lie in the fact that sometimes these, uh, funds are stolen, they are stolen, or, uh, like are lured out of people outwardly, by such methods and means. uh, including with the help of modern social technologies, what kind of, how is a person? he voluntarily gave or even signed something, and here, of course, there is a very thin line of responsibility for what is happening, but no matter how thin it is, it still exists, and in any case

, these are fraudulent actions that harm a citizen violation of his rights. uh, well, uh, you and i know that today, yes, most banks in most often in the majority. eh, in cases like this, they refund. uh, citizens lost funds are compensated, but uh, you are also right that uh, that uh , some kind of system, some kind of general approach should be developed. general approach, uh, to solving problems of this kind. today, most financial institutions. even takes into account. uh, in your expenses. uh, the approximate funds that dad goes to reimburse citizens for lost funds, but you need to think about it and you need to systematize, so i agree with you nominal numbers and the ministry of internal affairs and the central bank, the relevant recommendations orders will be given. thank you please here, i

understand that the list uh of those who would like to speak uh, finish a long time ago. and who would like to say or do something else yes, vladimir vladimirovich we have four scheduled speeches. we're already under 2 hours of work, if you'll excuse me, please. these four and i ask colleagues, uh, the list of possibilities is shorter, uh, his mikhail merkachev newspaper columnist, moskovsky komsomolets good afternoon. good afternoon. i will speak about humanism mercy within our country i will call for this. i want to tell you about pre-trial detention centers, where people, i remind you, are until the verdict, we have a huge number. there are now about 120,000 people there, and when i monitored the pre-trial detention center this year and saw many who sleep on the floor or take turns sleeping, because the pre-trial detention center is overcrowded, and in russian women who have young children at home, the vast majority of these prisoners are suspected outside

of violent crime. they pose no threat to society. they sit until the verdict only because the investigation is so convenient, because this is a method of pressure, better than which law enforcement officers have not come up with anything this year. i found few women in the season who sat there for three or four, even five years. and i talked about this on a legal forum. thanks to tatyana nikolaevna skolkova, i would provide her request with a list of women who have been in prison for 5 years before the verdict until the verdict comes into force. think about 5 years old. is it possible during this time? do whatever you want to start a business. i don't know how to graduate to raise a child. here they are sitting i repeat, not found guilty. this is despite the fact that the conditions in the pre-trial detention center are equated to a strict regime, and strict regimes are not provided for by russian law for women as a punishment, that is, those who have not yet been found guilty are sitting in conditions in which they cannot be, even when they are given a real term . this is a legal incident , even some senators paid attention to it this year, but so far nothing

has been done, and nevertheless. and let me remind you that women who are kept in the pre-trial detention center before the verdict and accused of hate crimes are only getting bigger. the worst thing here, uh, is that children are suffering. children are definitely not to blame for anything. when i went, again, through the cells of the women's pre-trial detention center, i asked women who have a huge number of small children at home to raise their hands. hmm, i'll give a few examples to show this. it, for example, is a woman who has been the former owner of a travel agency for 4 years. an economic crime, the child still thinks that his mother is being treated somewhere in a distant country, that to her, so you can’t call, you can’t see him, he’s been in prison for 4 years or another woman. she has three children. uh, children, they think that mom went and flew to explore space, some new planets. and i remind you that now a meeting and calls are allowed only by e, if they give the go-ahead of the investigator at the right time. i said that we had prepared a draft law that would take the investigator from summing up the investigation. this is the

right to give calls to children. but, unfortunately, our bill was blocked for centuries and as before, parents cannot contact their children, but, so that i don’t know, i can probably tell some other story so that you understand, in general, the whole situation is already a woman. recently, i met her teachers of one of the military universities professor. she has five children, one child, autistic, the smallest child is 5 years old. here i repeat it. uh, they threw the whole zone on economic crime, they immediately told her that that is, the husband would be imprisoned; the husband, the lawyer, had already been imprisoned. the children were left without both parents. eh, in general, this there is such a tendency when both mom and dad are imprisoned now, so that they are afraid and immediately give confessions, but in the case of this woman, it was surprising that she later told us how she was taken, here hereditary actions in moscow in shackles. to be honest, at first i didn’t believe it, and then we had more appeals. this is a whole new story. this year they began to use the so-called means of openwork.

the ministry of internal affairs has purchased about 20,000 of such means of restricting mobility and there are, uh, already recommendation. this is a convoy regiment to use them . i would very much ask you to ban, and use such means in our country against women entrepreneurs in general, all people who are accused of non-violent crimes. well , it’s understandable, maybe if it’s a terrorist, if it’s a maniac rapist, then you can put it on him. this is the result of these shackles, but it's so simple. some kind of medieval i will repeat, but before this was not. this is something new and incomprehensible. how to explain this strange behavior, i want to say more since the topic of the pre-trial detention center touched upon the fact that we have a real catastrophe this year, a record number of deaths from diseases of prisoners, some prisoners, for example, were dying in my eyes, i will tell the story of a guy. he was 25 years old was accused of petty fraud. we came to his cell. he was already lying motionless, but the court and the investigation considered that he could be kept in custody.

he died. i repeat economic crime. it was scary when e died almost in front of the whole country, the novosibirsk scientist. he true, he was accused of state treason, and this is a terrible crime, but nonetheless. he was taken out of novosibirsk, disconnected from all the devices in life , brought to lefortovo, and a day later he died in the last stage, the man suffered from cancer, and it’s even hard to imagine how he was taken. in general , we have a huge number of people who are still alive, who are disabled. they are blind, without a leg , and so, i would like to ask first of all for them again, if we are talking about these sick people, and about women, we are first of all about those who accused of non-violent crimes. that is, it is the economy. these are some others, but these are exactly the people who, remaining at large, will not begin to rob and kill. we have house arrest. we have a pledge, finally, there is a no- checkout subscription. well, here's another thing, of course, i would like you to hmm and you still voiced your position on the return of the death penalty. now we very often hear from different figures.