the commander of the armed forces valery zaluzhny and his main competitor, the commander of the ground forces of ukraine alexander syrsky, on the same day gave an interview to the influential british publication economest, both in one way or another recognized the effectiveness of the russian army and the plight of the armed forces, but this is by no means defeatism, but simply anastasia ivanova studied both interviews as a pretext to extort deliveries of new weapons and financial support from the west. e, anastasia greetings a. what diverges? zaluzhny cheese? hello alexander well, apparently in tasks and instructions to them, the wording of these differ. ambiguous statements that should be taken with a fair amount of skepticism, but

one thing is definitely not to be ignored only now the warriors sang, they won’t quite endure the pledged tightened. nazi refrain that in all russians it is necessary to kill indiscriminately. for this need more weapons adds a bloody commander of 300 tanks, five thousand infantry fighting vehicles and five thousand howitzers. this is only to reach the lines on february 23rd. and he also admitted that syrsky is categorically lacking people, but he speaks of problems on the front lines not in a veiled way, but quite directly, moreover, he praises the well-trained russian military who arrive on the front line. this literal quote adds that all this is of concern to the weapon does not ask, but says that the support of the western. supply problem compared, that ammunition is being used up at a rate, as in the second world war, the rural allows himself to say a little more simply, because he is well,

no matter how stoned he is. yes, he is still on the ground. that is, he sees the real state of the armed forces of ukraine, he sees real problems. the pledged rose from the ground, because he became such a pr straight figure and a noticeable noticeable in the west. and yes, for sure. he ’s already just, well, he’s just playing this role of the cool armed forces of ukraine who shoot down all the missiles fired out of seventy fired 95 shoot down tinned does not disappear from the agenda of the western media is positioned as the father of ukraine and its savior. syrsky, almost for the first time , gave such a long interview. maybe this is such a warm-up to possible permutations. well, at least he writes about it. the same icons. moreover, the fact that syrsky can take the place laid down is mentioned in two articles about independent commanders at once, it is said that some of zelensky’s entourage wants to do this, however. maybe this is the

political comedian himself, who has long been in a confrontation for the necessary protracted conflict, zelensky sends the military to death in batches with a head in jesus resists. although in the new revelation the british publication did not hesitate to give out that he does not care about those who are in the trenches, that he needs to focus on the accumulation of resources, he predicted a large-scale offensive by the russian army, but in fact took on the role of the main mouthpiece of ukraine, zelensky does not need such competition. syrsky began his career back in the soviet army, and he comes from the vladimir region of russia in while the pledge comes from western ukraine and is a product. well, if i may say so, ukrainian in the ukrainian military school, and, uh, a person who has gone through various forms of training already in western structures and, from this point of view, the west. he is more likeable. yes, there is a

desire of the president's office to create a counterbalance to the popular e, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, but without consulting with senior comrades, that is, with the west. they won't be able to promote it. will the western patrons of syrsky approve, who say that no what kind of victory for the kiev regime should not be expected, by the way, and the mortgaged gave out for the rainbow recognized the russian partial mobilization, which was not at all successful. even when there is some position of the united states, there are often representatives. let's say the clintella great britain acts exactly contrary to the clintelle of the united states and in the same way, on the contrary, that is, yes, in global things. they somehow agree among themselves, but at the same time, each of the parties is trying to smuggle their candidates on the battlefield in quotation marks of ukraine for influence and

take a more advantageous position. that is, the most important thing is that it has nothing to do with the ukrainian people. today, all this managerial elite does not have the interests of the main thing in the ukrainian people ; ordinary people simply do not fit into the political games of western curators. anastasia ivanova told about the interview with representatives of the ukrainian command about what is behind their statements eduard sinavoz, who previously headed the smolensk npp service company now he is with us, for example, connections hello, eduard nikolaevich, how can you hear us? good evening. and eduardovich hello. and the first question is traditional for energodar. how is the situation ? no shooting. quite calm,

working environment, all services are working normally. everything is fine. well, unfortunately, such a situation does not often happen to you recently, the city has often been shelled. i understand it's quiet for now. er, and yet, of course, since you've only just taken office, the traditional question in these cases. what's the first thing? what issues will you be addressing now? the main task is to supply enough heat for social facilities and for the housing stock of the city. well, the second is a social organization to help the sim population, uh, and also, uh, the preschool member and schools. all assistance is all necessary. and what is the current situation with utilities, uh, with utilities, because we

discussed the problem with heat supply a lot, because now we have said a little about this, that is, now in houses, at least some part of the houses is connected to heating networks or not? uh, yes, it’s connected now, all the heat is still insufficient, but work is being done around the clock, a huge help, it turns out, the staff of the nuclear power plant, employees of rosatom. so that's it soon. eh, all objects will be. ah, the heater. ah, eduard will go, and eduard nikolaevich uh, uh, after all, uh, the question is, uh, about uh, the public service, it’s clear that this is the most you know, m-m difficult tasks, nevertheless. uh, about the hospitals, the school. now it's not warm time years, and we understand that this is such a priority. e, and. uh, how do kids study

or stay at home, what's going on? so all e facilities are sufficient pancakes with heat and schools and hospitals. uh is going on, studies are moreover getting better and uh hmm different uh sections and work and culture. so we are trying, in general, to maintain a normal regime, the city of eduard nikolayevich is still one more problem - this is medicine. now there is an epidemic in russia. unfortunately, in the cities you have, how are things going with medical care, because what is clear that time is the time of apedia different viral. what do you have? eh, a large team of professional doctors was sent there now, which will provide assistance to the

city. so i think we can handle all the problems . and eduard nikolaevich is one more question, and the next question, uh, let's go back to the station. and now, uh, who is the state of arrival, but it gives, in addition to the necessary heat. i understand that, but so far the minimum quantity. and electricity how does the encik of the station work station well, in principle, the work is organized in a regular mode; now the units are not working, but nevertheless, preventive work is being carried out. ah, well-coordinated professional team. ah, no matter what work environment uh hmm i think you're in a bit of a problem. no. why? a very well -coordinated professional team works here. e from

rosatom, well, and quite a very local team. he is also directly involved in everything. so for now, all is well. let's hope it stays like this same. uh, another very difficult question. this is a security issue, because we see that the ukrainian authorities are not calming down. they send energy. uh, our other regions. here, the donetsk authorities reported that others had destroyed several such groups of saboteurs. hey, how are you getting on with this? are there any additional security measures that need to be strengthened? i understand that the question is complex and not everything can be said, but nevertheless. are there any additional steps needed or is it okay? you know, i literally came to the nuclear power plant. i see working here, real professionals are people

who give themselves entirely to themselves, this is the national guard. i have it organized before my eyes. uh service. e. well, you know, they inspire hope, because they are real professionals in their field and who do not spare themselves at the moment. uh, my impression is that, well, the service is well organized. oh well, eduark does not say that you have such a fresh look. you are still, of course, only getting in the know, but nonetheless. so i understand that you will have a lot of work ahead of you. and i i think that we will still communicate with you live. thank you for finding us despite your busy schedule. e time. good luck with your work, and i remind you, we talked with the new head of the power plant, and edward is a hay carrier. today, the eu council adopted the ninth package of sanctions against russia, european officials for a long time could not agree on

its final version. let me remind you that it provides, among other things, restrictions against the mining and energy sectors, as well as a ban on the export of space industry products and drones. besides sanctions provide for export controls on dual-use goods and technologies that may be related to the russian defense sector. well, and other measures. judging by the list of restrictions of european officials , a creative crisis has clearly begun to appear in the definition of restrictive measures. against our country. and yet. there is a chance that there will be a tenth package. is it possible to wait for him? we talked about this today with the ban of the committee on defense and security of the federation council vladimir chizhov vladimir alekseevich hello, thank you for finding the time for us. the question, of course, is understandable from the ninth package already. e anti-russian sanctions of the

european union, you are a great specialist in this region of the world and i still wanted to discuss with you not so much even about the details of this package, because it is obvious that the creative possibilities of european officials are somewhat, so to speak, subsided or decreased, and even these restrictions , which became known even the day before, which are included in the ninth package a little bit. we will also discuss them. how bad they are for us. but you know, i would like to ask you all the same about your impression, what it was all about, why the euro officials with such manic persistence. that's just churning out these packages, maybe breaks at least make you already learn. well, somewhere i think so, the sixth package, which was

in the middle of the years, became a turning point. uh, at that first stage, it was quite clear that many of the anti-russian restrictive measures were ah, and so they were waiting for an opportunity. probably to run them with a general non-resistance of member countries. naturally, this was accompanied by, and even so to speak, it was stimulated by that anti-russian company in the media in public statements, uh, which, by the way, did not begin with the start of a special military operation. and a few years before that, my father only intensified after the sixth package. well, here you can guess, of course, what we are not going to do. yeah, how much did they a

hmm calculate the duration of the current crisis and our special military operation. well after the sixth package, it turned out that they have especially more weighty decisions in the back. no let's go on a-a so expressed. and they began to look for some. so the smaller reasons are going on, and now, as an example, i will cite the fact that they literally uh yesterday. uh, officially published. it was, uh, a completely different set. this is even another reason for this anti-iranian sanctions. and

so they issued not a single one regarding e individual sanctions against a number, and the leaders, primarily military law enforcement officers, and as if in response to the suppression protests in iran well, this is a common practice, when in other countries they sympathize with the protests, and in their own countries they suppress no less enthusiasm. well, here, but in parallel they threw in the second solution. there are four uh generals and one legal entity. e, which is associated with the production of unmanned aerial vehicles in iran, so they were tied to our special military operation in ukraine and also brought under sanctions. therefore, at this level. uh, the european union

is already working. at the same time, don't uh, don't bother, how it is said about, but about the presentation of some kind of evidence base, and so on, i'm not talking about individual member countries anymore. which, without thinking twice, attributed to us both the malaysian battle and its own tu-154 near smolensk, and summed all this up under the e parliamentary decision to recognize russia as a state sponsor. and vladimirovich and here, by the way, if you are talking about this. and what do you think, this is a frenzied polish? she is? it is clear that it has been discussed with you many times. ah, she 's already kind of manic, in my opinion, that's it russophobia. there, of course, it is clear that they are fulfilling, among other things, the american order to

destabilize europe, but they are also playing their game, so , uh, before accepting this ninth package of anti-russian sanctions, poland began to roam and say that we will not approve , and assistance to ukraine in 18 billion euros, uh, which he promised in ukraine a, because uh, and there further the list is polish and in general, this is a confrontation between poland and germany, because it requires more compensation for the second world war, by the way, here, by the way, you can say, maybe, and we need to ask again, but nevertheless. here is the confrontation. poland germany maybe it will lead to the fact that the european union will be well. to put it mildly, greatly weakened. and in general, what is the game and interests of poland all the same. how to look at how the situation developed, for example, with the ceiling. uh, oil prices are those notorious $60 a barrel of oil. and this, uh, decision

was the result of a difficult compromise. uh, and before that, long-term, but intra-soviet, so to speak, but showdowns and poland well, along with it, the balts of course, they demanded not 60 dollars. and 30. why is 30 and not 10 not zero, huh? ah, but this decision did not pass, but politicians, of course, do not calm down. as for oil, you understand, the situation there is more multifaceted, which is why they eventually managed to reach some kind of compromise, which i believe will not be able to work in the long term anyway. as for gas, they are not in a position to reach any decision, uh, on the basis

of consensus, therefore, after all, both under the seventh package and under the eighth, and even more so under the ninth package, everything there were talks that it was necessary that the decision on the ceiling on prices for russian gas should become its core. and even then it will be, so to speak, a complete package. and so some turns out, i'm sorry, but some kind of army with holes, yes, it turns out. but vladimirovich, nevertheless, but these torments of creativity e european commission of the european council, well, all the governing bodies, and the european union, they sat for 15 hours. so i already spoke about poland, their demarche there and so on. is it possible to say that everything the further we go with the packages with these numbers, the harder it is to find a consensus in the european

union. yes, of course, this is exactly so, because after all, some begin to remember. but from the shirt that is closer to the body. and their economic interests should not be completely ignored for the sake of ukraine. so you mentioned these 18 billion. an additional package with help to ukraine, but no one says that this is not a grant, not help. this is a loan, let it be on record terms. well , you know, which sooner or later, but ukraine the current le-a regime or under the next leadership, sooner or later you will have to repay, yes, this loan is further preferential, so to speak, the period, that is, the first 10 years, and

you can not pay interest, and then you have to. so to say that the european union pretends to be a cornucopia, from which money flows weapons, by the way, to the address, uh, poland does not come to weapons additionally unfastened. as they say, the amount of 3 billion is not yet such a large amount, and at modern prices for western weapons, not so much you can buy for that amount. and this is extrabudgetary funds. this is the notorious european peace foundation, well, the world's weapons are recommended to buy this war. and vladimirovich and here is how, by the way, they remembered this mythical, uh, not mythical. it is real, but, probably, another word here is really some kind of virtual peace fund

that stimulates and, uh, subsidizes the purchase of weapons. this is uh, r- this is the policy of the european union. you have been working in the european union for a very long time. and i every time you i ask about it, but nevertheless. here's to you now from moscow. as you can see, what is happening with european politicians. they are under some kind of hypnosis , what is happening to them. well, firstly, the level of political thinking, the level of seriousness of the elaboration of decisions made, they have decreased, this is an objective fact, and we see that but the lack of thoughtfulness of decisions. they try to compensate with amplification. e aggressive rhetoric.

this is also a fact. well, i do not want to give personal characteristics to the former and current leader and eurostructures. and member countries, but the scale is not the same now. but vladimir alekseevich, if we return to all sorts of restrictions, there is a little bit of another direction. and so in europe, the lifting of individual sanctions is being discussed, e.g. from our rosselkhozbank and businessmen who are involved in the production and export of food and fertilizers. why do you think this is the decision of the european authorities? i'm not going to advise you. uh, it will depend on the perseverance of those in the european union and beyond. who stands for this the decision is clear that, uh, the easiest way is, uh,

to accuse russia of all mortal sins without evidence, including signs of impending famine in developing countries, a on different continents. and some to make a decision, a, which would have prevented the worsening of the situation. somehow it would be allowed to normalize. this requires international cooperation. as they say, like it or not, but without russia as one of the largest exporters. uh, food how uh? well, let's talk about without any, so to speak, without false modesty, as great agricultural power, and here you can not do without. and yet, let's guess a little bit at the end of our conversation. will there be a tenth

package, there will be an eleventh one. and you know, if something unimaginable happens and they decide to put a ceiling on gas, then that might be an additional solution. by the way, they don't calm down themselves, their last this year is over. yesterday, he was one-day, and already on monday. uh, it will. uh, council meeting, uh, the eu in the format of energy ministers, and they are there gas will be dealt with, but i do not see an objective basis for today, but some positive solution to this issue, so uh, well, well. well, now in the ninth package, and there will be an additional list for 200 people. well, you can, so to speak, continue to rewrite telephone directories. and uh, the entire

population of russia a. yes, so to speak , include in the stop list, but this is not serious. yes, vladimir alekseevich, and yet this is happening. thank you so much for taking the time for us we will be following developments really guess, because only, probably , a year not on coffee grounds will make it possible to understand what european politicians have in mind in the future. clearly nothing good? yes? thank you very much vladimir alekseevich thank you that's it i've had alexander koreevsky with you and see you next week. well, now the broadcast of russia 24 will continue the program vesti duty.

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