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receive an order with a 15% discount in 15 minutes. hello. kirill vyshinsky is with you, and this is a typical ukraine program. our program is not news, we record it in advance and go out on a weekly basis. we don't compete with news releases. we talk about what made ukraine the way we know it today, the typical and, of course, the peculiar path that little russia went through about the ussr ukraine before it ended up at the current point. here's what we're
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interested in, we hope it's interesting for you and here's what we're talking about today. the victim complex and the myth evade the past. why does ukraine need manipulations with history, as a way of national self-affirmation , together with an expert of the program, a man with a stone and a woman, we understand the ukrainian trace in the history of the soviet sills in today's ukraine, in the formation of the very political nation that the ideologists of integral ukrainian nationalism dreamed of. it is difficult to imagine without a victim complex, the essence of it is simple, there was no such time in history, theorists say political ukrainianism, so that ukrainians would not be enslaved and oppressed, it all started back in the nineties with school textbooks written by
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emigrants and their descendants from canada. there is the whole history of the existence of ukrainian territories. these are short episodes of the struggle for independence, which are replaced by long years of oppression and suffering oppressed. all the polish gentry , muscovites, catholics, german invaders and soviet regimes during the latter, holodomor repressions occurred, and chernobyl in recent history, even before the maidans, oppresses the locals oligarchs and pro-russian authorities. in the fashionable historical studies that came from the west, ukrainians were inspired by the idea of their almost thousand-year colonial past, and ukraine itself, which did not exist on the map, as a state until the beginning of the 20th century, unexpectedly became a victim of russia's imperial colonial policy, but in fact, even in pre-soviet times, a typical colony ,
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austrian polish was ukrainian galicia, present-day western ukraine in the russian empire, little russians, and then ukrainians were part of the titular nation and were part of the ruling the elite razumovsky brothers from the land-poor dnieper cossacks senior became a general-film, marshal, junior president of the russian academy of sciences, chancellor, empire, beardless and kochubey merchants, industrialists , pre-revolutionary oligarchs, kharitonenko. and tereshchenko is all from a little russian, the chairman of the third and fourth state dumas of russia, mikhail radzianka, spoke from poltava sonic ivan ranzyanka. and vasily shulgin, a descendant of the cossack shulgi of kiev, accepted the abdication of nicholas ii from the throne. such career ups and life scenarios were simply unthinkable
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impossible for ukrainians in caste galicia, the ukrainian concept of colonial slavery and the victim complex are the basis of myths about the long path of ukrainians to freedom through the maidan, which should lead to the formation of a ukrainian political nation. and those who do not want such freedom. they are just victims of imperial propaganda, slaves with a colonial consciousness, and they have no place in independent ukraine. berlin is one of the artistic actions designed to remind europeans in mirny about the suffering and victims of ukraine, which took
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the blow of putin's russia, such performances in recent months, old europe has navigated a lot while both sides of the conflict are fighting on the streets of european cities in an independent way. bloggers, who scatter theatrically and allegedly, at the sound of shots, lay down on the ground in order to stare piercingly at others in a stag, they will first grab pillows and a blanket. that germany is the future is still the locomotive of the european economy. it took upon itself the main breast of support for ukraine in the economic, financial and military spheres. at the same time, ukraine is forming a request for what everyone owes them. in fact , they relay this when they enter western countries as refugees. they do not behave like people who need help,
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who demand this help go back deep into the past, back in the years of the civil war. grushevsky, for example, actively promoted the historical myth about student martyrs who fell in battles with the bolsheviks, but in reality they were simply abandoned to their fate. command of the unr, all this later became the content of textbooks, but you independent ukraine in the early nineties is the whole story. ukraine was built on the myth that ukraine ukrainians suffer all their lives in an unequal struggle with these muscovites themselves, which yury dolgor began against them, if again look at the ukrainian news, there and so on you, uh, in various analytical programs wise guys with geese will say that, of course, the donbass was at one time, specially killed in the thirties years of famine, to be replaced by the muscovite population after gaining independence, a new national idea. the
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famine became the tragic events of the thirties of the last century, when in the arable regions of the ussr, not only in ukraine, but also in the kuban, in the north caucasus, the volga region of belarus and even in siberia, millions of peasants died of starvation in the self- righteousness of our days began to consider the goals of a directed policy of genocide. in relation to the great individual taken ukrainian people, suffering was allowed to be exported in the center of yours. then even on the victims of the famine a monument was erected and each of the ukrainian presidents considers it his duty to intercept this famine baton, and all in front of the communists who traveled over our corpses. an apologist for the holodomor genocide cannot be all forgotten on the shield of ukrainian propaganda. the so-called massacre in baturinitsa during the northern war was also raised, when, after the betrayal of mazepa, he went over to the side of the swedes. peter gave the order to burn the headquarters of the corrupt hetman. and let there be no real
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evidence of numerous victims and convinced babies. historians have not found psychological effect was achieved by transcribing the events of centuries ago in a modern way. they gave their fruits, even in the highest echelons of power it came to anecdotal situations. when in 2005 they wanted to lower the price for e, respectively for oil and e, this negotiator demanded that he was the leader of kun, that is, the congress of ukrainian nationalists. he demanded that they give him an interpreter, and in response, they told him not to need an interpreter, they wrote a figure four times more and then , so to speak, under his breath, he came with it. and when he was asked, did it become public, she was asked, what were you thinking about at that moment, when such conditions were set, he said, i was thinking about baturin. and that's what the leadership of the donetsk miner was thinking about, which this year firmly decided to be ukrainians at the world cup not quite, it's clear, nevertheless,
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in the official account of the clubs. on twitter, long before the start of the championship , persistent proposals appeared in the frame to remove iran, which is unfriendly to ukraine, from participating in the world cup . by the way, iran won admission there in a fair sporting fight with passing in their group. but ukraine failed to do this. but after all, they not only demanded that iran be removed. they also wanted this place to be given to ukraine, however, as the example of president zelensky shows, it is possible to build a good business on the image of the offended and oppressed in the fall . , previously allocated to kiev and so far one part of the western public is outraged by uncontrolled cash injections into ukraine , others are concerned about the issue. why, in the very
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heart of europe, the la scala theater does not politically correct open the new season with a production of boris godunov by the russian composer mussorgsky, and among the audience , the chairman of the european commission, ursula fondder. by the way, the poster caressed the nutcracker and swan lake. so serious passions can flare up and who knows whose side will eventually take up, it may very well be that the next the season will please the discerning european listener, for example, while not so widely known, but very damaged ukrainian opera . anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine about why in ukraine they constantly talked about the difficult colonial past and cultivated the image of the victim. we will talk with our permanent expert historian alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. hello in general in
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nationalist mythology, as a rule, but cultivates the image of the hero the image of success. and why in ukraine they suddenly started talking about the victim as the main content, well, ukrainian history, it seems to me that there is a whole range of factors, but one of them is that this image of the victim, it gives such a universal, well, or something , is there a moral induction for any action? well, here is an example of events. uh, in the thirtieth year in western ukraine, the region at that time was part of poland, so uh, the second commonwealth ruled there, and punks. yes it was di very tough authoritarian regime, uh obvious fascist even elements. that is, of course, ukrainians did not live well there . and so, it means, uh , ukrainian nationalists fought against him. yes, and olun. uh, just now, which arose at that moment,
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it means that they attacked the polish peasants. there , village houses were set on fire, people were killed, terrorist attacks were carried out against polish politicians , terrorist attacks were carried out against ukrainian politicians who were trying to build some kind of loyal relationship. uh, solve these problems politically. and that's all it means. uh, so to speak, polyakov took out and right before the elections, by the way, at seven they staged a very tough punitive action, they brought in police units. many led the way. uh, additional military contingents, or there were entire villages surrounded by searches. well, it was directly called very, very hard. this pacification died from mariinium, which means, well, and ukrainian in the first place, devilry already existed then immigration germany and in lithuania, i must say, in other countries. in europe, in britain, the guardian, for example, wrote about this and became an entire information company look what atrocities the poles are doing and so on and so on and so on. but if you look, yes, then according to the results, even according to ukrainian data, according to polish
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official data, there are fewer things. but according to ukrainian data, seven people died for this most cruel punitive action. yes, but then, when the volyn massacre was organized under the guidance of the mind, that is, just genocide, they directly referred to the fact that we are victims of falsification. well, how would you understand. well, people got so emotional , they accidentally cut tens of thousands of their neighbors, well, fast forward to today , when one of the uh, well-known human rights organizations together international recently downed the ukrainian armed forces for violating the rules of war. well, essentially. eh, i didn’t say that directly, but e hinted at e, you know. armed forces of ukraine e spend on their own territory? yes, as at least, as it is declared, then zelensky, in an emotional outburst, kept repeating, ukraine is a victim, ukraine is a victim. like, we can't be. eh, here by those we cannot do what we are
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reproached for. we are always just a victim. why is he talking to the west all the time about this? yes , of course, you know, it sounded like this, well, somehow even itself is revealing. that is, just in such a tone as it was repeated, like a mantra like a spell, and uh, i must say that the western audience. yes, remember, we are the victim. yes western audience the fact is that to this spell, they are very susceptible simply by virtue. uh, those who, let's say, ideological cultural processes that take place in the very west, and there even in in the social sciences, there is a whole branch of victimology. yes, that is, this is the study of this topic of sacrifice from different angles and in social, but in psychology. this is being studied very actively and there is such a condemned in the west, widely, condemned concept. and as victim-blaming, that is, blaming the victim, yes, when some kind of crime is committed there, there is sexual violence. yes ,
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the victim is accused, what they say put on a short skirt, then she is to blame, right? and this complex of psychology and social psychology and the relationship of people, it actively involved in politics. and as if it is implied that, well, this is the same thing yes, and therefore that side of e, which e acts with the position of the victim, and she, accordingly, e does not bear any responsibility at all. for whatever their actions are popular. uh, western philosophers slava zhizhi even regardless, he supports ukraine well, as it should be, and so on, but uh, regardless of current events, he once had such, and the syntemium formula that in modern western society, and one can claim power only from the position of a victim. that, in fact, this opens this ending. but if the creation of this image of a victim is just a political technique in ukraine today, then the real victim of the military conflict in ukraine is also a real victim of the military conflict in ukraine
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. of course, uh, of course, the civilian population. the ukraine is a victim of this war of this conflict beyond any doubt. yeah, uh, and we, how to put it that way. well , sympathy in ukrainian society. there is always a radical force that even its own ideologies carries the idea that it is necessary to make sacrifices for the sake of ukraine. you need to donate. the truth is to sacrifice. they prefer, as a rule, not with them. yes . but if we take a look at demographics and different kinds of sociological studies, and then we will see how the percentage of russians has seriously fallen. yes, in the total composition of the population of ukraine, almost twice the number
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russians are steadily declining by just millions of people, where did these people go, nobody asks this question, and these people became victims of the aggressive assimilation policy that ukraine led and which ultimately led to the current conflict, the scale of which is simply expands. eh, since then. do i understand correctly that they graze. uh, ukrainians are really a victim, but the victims are those politicians who, starting from uh, the middle. uh, in the tenth years they did everything to ensure that there was no peace in ukraine, so that it was impossible was to agree on it. yes, of course, uh, here, uh, it is important to understand that the russophobic policy is fatal. anti-russian policy , it was obvious, and in ukraine, many people talked about it. yes, that even well, it is not necessary to love russia there, but for purely pragmatic purposes to go into conflict with it.
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and we were in constant conflict. yes, this is suicidal. this is simply suicidal and moreover, uh, we remember, uh, the speech of the american president george w. bush at the dawn of ukrainian independence, he warned deputies. from what the father of suicidal nationalism everyone understood everything. yes, it just might be, but some less responsible politicians were in washington who realized that this suicidal nationalism can be used and for their own purposes, of course. so, talk about it. well, i repeat, you need to talk about this, and as if in response, e did not hear the entire tape. here in this very accusation of the victim, and so on and so forth. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. two bright images symbol of soviet monumental sculpture of the twenties-thirties this is a man
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who is ready to fight for the new world even with a cobblestone and a naked girl is a symbol of freedom and equality of the sexes in the young soviet republic, she naturally leans on an oar bougnik weapon of the proletariat and a girl with an oar these are the legendary works of the soviet sculptor ivan shadr more amazing . in total, their fates took shape in ukraine, and in these stories there is something very typical of the present time, the proletarian. with a cobblestone shadr made of plaster in 1927, he became a symbol. first russian revolution of 905 . the original is stored in the tekut gallery , the tension of the struggle in the whole figure, the relief plasticity of the body, the strong-willed features of the face, the shadr conveyed it so accurately and expressively that he
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put his sculpture on a par with the ancient discus thrower of myron and michelangelo's david and the pooh of the renaissance, after the death of ivan the shadr, they began to be cast in bronze . the name of the monument has become a household name; one of them was erected in kiev in 1982. the monument was dedicated to the friendship of the workers of the podolsky district and krasnopresnensky the district moscow was installed on podil on krasnaya presnya square in 2016 was demolished, because he sinned twice the first time when he became a symbol, the russian revolution, the second after the maidan, stood to remind of the times when the people of kiev. it was the square that soon became friends with the muscovites. but the fate of the shadrin girl with an oar, who ended up in the ukrainian
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voroshilovgrad of today's lugansk, is somewhat different , but in its own way also very typical. skill and painting, but in the early twenties of the last century, he left all his hobbies and focused exclusively on culture, the images he created of this lions, active emotional heroes ready to fight and overcome one of the main components. uh, shadra culture is uh skill. uh, very expressive to convey dynamic movement. sometimes. he even hmm refused to follow the anatomy rule in order to, uh, emphasize his main idea. the main content of the image in 1934, commissioned of the central park of culture and leisure in moscow,
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ivan shadry began to create a girl with a paddle, a student of the moscow institute became a model for culture. physical education. vera voloshina noticed her shadra during training in diving, the further fate of the world slo. lived tragically. the very first days of the war she went to the front and died together with zoya kosmodemyanskaya almost on the same day they were hanged. uh, since they served in the same partisan detachment and were captured at the same time, and in 1935 a girl with a reinforced concrete oar, patinated bronze was installed on the main thoroughfare of the park in the center with a fountain, very realistic, smiling in a relaxed pose. she embarrassed the public. as a goblin sculpture of a girl svetly in gorky park, i took the summer season in the commission of joseph steel, and when he saw a nude figure nine meters
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high and in the center of the alley after the main entrance, he said, this must be removed. no one will go further sculpture exiled to ukrainian voroshilovgrad why is not known for certain , perhaps thanks to a native of those regions at that time, people's commissar of defense of the ussr klim voroshilov. or maybe because in august 1936, a similar park of culture and recreation was opened there, also named after gorky. for us for lugansk it was a wonderful gift, by the way, it was sent by e, with the consent of the shadr girl light. yes, it was the most significant such dominant sculpture in our park. and the park itself has become a big event for the dusty and smoky steppe industrial city lugan-chanin, the future author of evenings near moscow. michael motosovsky devoted two poems to its discovery, a beautiful park, located on thirty gers, and in many respects, not inferior to the capital, was the brainchild of
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alexander stepanovich, one of the main projects of the architect alexander sheremet, and thanks to his diligence, his great talent and human qualities. oh, he was a great wounder. he spent days and nights at the construction site. everyone saw his enthusiasm and in 1937 he was appointed to the position of chief architect of the city and in this position. he has worked for over 30 years. first girl with we installed the oar in the same way as in moscow in a large fountain, but the height of the sculpture on the pedestal did not correspond to its size, and then alexander po sheremet moved the figure to the grotto, where it sort of went down a couple of steps lower, the shadr who arrived in lugansk liked the transformation and as a token of gratitude, he presented his lugansk colleague with a book about architecture, alas, but already in the next thirty-seventh year, with the
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culture of ivan shadra, it disappeared from lugansk park until now, local historians cannot find an explanation for this, another one appeared in its place a girl with an oar, also the moscow sculptor ramualdo, and a duck, and this figure was already in a bathing suit, and in moscow, for the pedestals of the gorky park fountain, ivan shadris. created another version already with a different model. second. e option, of course, it is more elegant and e represents a girl in the life of another with a haircut of slightly different proportions. and well, indeed, it’s closer to other soviet cultures now. a fragment of the second version of the sculpture is presented, just at the exhibition in the new tretyakov gallery, this shadra girl, according to one version, stood in moscow gorky park until the end of the fifties sculpture in lugansk was so unlucky during the great patriotic war. this park was almost completely destroyed. but there were beautiful sculptures, beautiful fountains, among
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other things , it was not possible to restore the park in all its splendor, not in the soviet period, nor in the ukrainian period. surprisingly, it was in a difficult time for the city that after the events of 2014, luhansk residents revived their gorky park a in 2019, a girl with an oar shadrovskaya appeared again in it the authors viktor gorbulin and roman manulov chose their contemporary olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev typical, ukraine as a model. that's all we wanted to tell. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. good luck to you. used to watching videos stopped working , install, open, watch russian
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